Building a Smith Generator

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sampojoe posted this 12 January 2018

I am starting work on building a Smith Generator.  Thanks to your work here, I am getting the role of Bucking Coils on the circuit.  I found this link for starters, a pdf that purports to tell you how to build one:  

projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=25399

I extracted another schematic and made it an attachment below.  What they do not mention anywhere in the document is that coil L2 most likely is a Bucking Coil, as you have most eloquently shown here!  I guess they do say it is a "Tesla Coil".  I guess that could be a Partnered Output Coil.  I have seen similar schematics on youtubes by kdkinen, where he shows his replication attempts seemingly at least generating OU.  His schematics I can clearly see the Partnered Output Coils.  So with this understanding I think I will attempt a replication.   It seems very simple.  You use a 30 ma NST to get thousands of volts.  The front of the the circuit as shown uses a small inverter driven by a 12v battery to get 120v AC, which is fed thru a variac to control the input voltage to the NST.  The final output is supposed to be up to 8000v @ ~20A DC, as the L1/L2 is 4:1 step-up!   Pretty astounding.

I am not going to use a battery to run an inverter to drive the system.  I will just initially plug my variac into the wall.  You do need a real sine wave input for this.

So the front of the circuit feeding L1 starting with the output of the NST is grounded at the center point tap of the NST.  The output of the NST is rectified to extract the starting HV and then reconverted to AC with a spark gap tuned with resistors and caps to the coil L1 for about 31.5 kHZ AC .

Here is a hand drawn schematic online and in the pdf : Hand Drawn Don Smith Schematic

I got a little excited about solving the performance issues of the L1 circuit and clicked the solved button thinking it just applied to the post by Marathonman showing how Tesla built such circuits. But no, it got applied to the entire trhead, and is apparently a big database issue to correct.  So please ignore the green solved check!

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electrondiger posted this 15 October 2022

Hy

wow i realy didnt know that Don smith Device is under replication atempt. Realy nice.

If i can ask, ( it is realy stupid question perhaps), but i have realy pain in the  ass with it for several years. If you look that coil of Don there are some  sort of strips to hold turns together. Where can you get those or how you can make it. i will not go in detail what i have tryed alredy. If somone has some sort of ideas woud be realy an eye opener. I didnt find them on the web.

Coils are from B&W

If i understand corectly, coils have dimensions spacing ( i think that D/space betwen turns=0.6 best) and so on. Dons are D/space =1. If i understand corectly best coil lenghts is 0.8 of its diameter becose of eletric properties, but Dons is longer. I read somwhere that lenght give you voltage, diameter give you amperage. Coils are grounded in the midle so maximum voltage is at its ends. And if i corectly remember you need to find node in the midle with the neon bulb and make ground conectinon directly in the node. So dont buy wire for winding motors. Buy isolation wire and strip it. L2 is from 2 parts this is thrue. L1 must be multistrand wire, why. Low R and so on. When you kik you kik hard.

 

em,... i think that HVM - high voltage module or neon transformer in this device was tempered with. There was lots of talk about this on forums. If you choose neon transformer there is a problem with frequency. It is only 50 Hz. So you are left to the stuf down the line ( elements afect your frequency). If you buy eletric neon transfomer or HVM from american company Ventex, you will noticed that they havee difrent models. But company murged with other company. If you call theirs rep they will told you cant buy Don Smith HVM eny more. They dont prduce it eny more. If you have fix frequency in HVM they frequency is inposed on elements down the line. ( i didnt mesure this ). 

Spark will not fire when you conect coil  you need to modifiy it this was also "the problem". And high frequency diodes with high amp are pricey. High voltage capacitor too, so dont go over 20Kv.

I think that in scheme there is only half the circuit, and that somthing is in last transformer too, how it is made. There shoud flow another kind of curent in there. This curent in primary gives rise to ordinary curent in secondary. This is the reason why you need big wire on secondary but you can have  smal diameter wire in primary. There was talk that diodes was turn bakwards too. One pole( +,-) of electricity you must push to ground so you get  another pol (+,-) on the winding of primary on last transformer. And this will realy run your secondary and your load.

What i have writen here is from reading from all directions over the internet. If it helps ok if it dont please delete.

One more thing. Don said that he god some caps from compenies only on big orthers. This is not true. Soome original stuf from pictures was bought from ordinary suply stores. Parts witch are produce in large quantities and are on sale everywere. But is thrue Dubuise company. You can orther caps in this company they do custom orther for inventors. And if i read this wright some years back, you can get fre samples.

Perhaps .. ok. If i lok at tesla coil and what Tesla did. I think that he took induction law and use it brutaly with capacitors. So. Dc curent from dinamo over the spark gap and soo on. Dc high tension in capacitor. This is Voltage i think. Over the spark gap. Caps discharge realy quicly you need multistrand wire for this and as smal number of turns. There are pictures of one turn on tesla transformers.  Look it up. Em,.. and no curent overt the gap.  Magnetic quenching and air quenching, series spark gaps and so on. I think Tesla wonted to play with energy not electrons. Becose ... ( this is wierd one),... electrons dont exist if you read some books. Then was a fight  about electron, some founders of electricity said that if you think there is an electron you are stupid or delusunal. And electron dont travel fast they are realy slow. Energy travel fast, rely fast. I think tesla try to separete electrons from energy and play with energy. Electron exist in modern science. Thompson and so on.... . I know dont kill me. They made a picture of it. But electron is some sort of braking mechanisem from space energy when starts to brake down to lower velocities and material world. And if you reed some books they say that material word particles are yumping from conterspace to this space so fast you cant see them.  huh,... if you look some exsperiments from water. You will found that tehre are exsperiments in water with cavitation witchproduce metal particles. They made ingot from them. I am not smart yust saying it is wierd stuf when you go some steps to rabit hole.

( Chris if there is some stupid stuf in this post yust delet it)

Have fun.

Blueheron posted this 27 March 2022

the system Grandpa Smith designed was pure genius as always. The 12 volt 7ah battery is necessary as is the inverter and the dimmer for the NST (or powerstat) and kickback diodes. This is a required current limiting step and without this there is no way to reliably limit the amps pulled from the battery. Also Don only used the NST for 100 volts. 100 volts injected onto L1 then inductively coupled to the 16 turns both ways gives you 8,000 volts. You always have more volts than you need.There is magick in the B+W coils. Do some research on their composition or shall I say Don's coil composition. I hope you are way further by now. Ignore the part of that posted schematic that has the full wave bridge. Just go with the Full Wave centertap that is shown. go right to 4 2,000 volt 2uf capacitors in series giving you 8,000 volts at 8uf.

Blueheron posted this 27 March 2022

I am starting work on building a Smith Generator.  Thanks to your work here, I am getting the role of Bucking Coils on the circuit.  I found this link for starters, a pdf that purports to tell you how to build one:  

projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=25399

I extracted another schematic and made it an attachment below.  What they do not mention anywhere in the document is that coil L2 most likely is a Bucking Coil, as you have most eloquently shown here!  I guess they do say it is a "Tesla Coil".  I guess that could be a Partnered Output Coil.  I have seen similar schematics on youtubes by kdkinen, where he shows his replication attempts seemingly at least generating OU.  His schematics I can clearly see the Partnered Output Coils.  So with this understanding I think I will attempt a replication.   It seems very simple.  You use a 30 ma NST to get thousands of volts.  The front of the the circuit as shown uses a small inverter driven by a 12v battery to get 120v AC, which is fed thru a variac to control the input voltage to the NST.  The final output is supposed to be up to 8000v @ ~20A DC, as the L1/L2 is 4:1 step-up!   Pretty astounding.

I am not going to use a battery to run an inverter to drive the system.  I will just initially plug my variac into the wall.  You do need a real sine wave input for this.

So the front of the circuit feeding L1 starting with the output of the NST is grounded at the center point tap of the NST.  The output of the NST is rectified to extract the starting HV and then reconverted to AC with a spark gap tuned with resistors and caps to the coil L1 for about 31.5 kHZ AC .

Here is a hand drawn schematic online and in the pdf : Hand Drawn Don Smith Schematic

I got a little excited about solving the performance issues of the L1 circuit and clicked the solved button thinking it just applied to the post by Marathonman showing how Tesla built such circuits. But no, it got applied to the entire trhead, and is apparently a big database issue to correct.  So please ignore the green solved check!

Jagau posted this 10 November 2021

Hi Chris


You were right to say 1/4 wavelength you were correct.


The 1/16 of which you speak is a harmonic which recharges its battery which feeds his inverter not for his pricipal circuit,

it is that it is a harmonic and not the same frequency 1/4 on which work L1 and L2 there would be a problem if he would use the same one.


Jagau

baerndorfer posted this 09 November 2021

don smith talked about opposing coils. in his book he has a drawing where he said that the electron spins in two directions, clockwise and counter-clockwise. the opposing coil is producing this effect. you will get 'voltage' from one leg and 'current' from the other. spinning left causes the voltage(dielectric) - spinning right causes the current(magnetic).

i did many tests on this and found out that you can see the difference when you put energy from these legs into a sparkgap. the spark from the 'voltage-leg' is more 'smooth' and has a different color than the spark from the other leg which is more 'brutal' and louder. so the spark is different! when i store the energy from these 2 legs in different capacitors, then the energy from these caps behave different on the same load. which means more or less light on a bulp at the same voltage.

don smith is a hero!

regards!

Chris posted this 09 November 2021

My Friends,

I wish to make a public apology!

I have said on this forum and else where that Don Smith used 1/4 Wavelength. Don Smith himself said he used 1/4 Wavelength!

This information is not entirely correct, he used a Multiple of the 1/4 Wavelength, he used 1/16 Wavelength, thus the Turns Ratio: 4 : 16 or 1 : 4 = Input : Output.

1 : 4 Turns Ratio does not mean 1/4 Wavelength!

 

One has to think a little more broadly after listening to those videos! Don is not entirely clear!

Many here are more advanced that myself in this field, Please point out errors if you see any!

I try very hard to make sure everything is true and correct! I do still make errors in this uncharted path that lays infront of us! I am learning also and I have learnt an important lesson in this area in the last weeks.

My Friends, in my work to complete the theory, So I can more accurately predict these machines, I have learnt a lot, I am also still learning, so please bear with me in this Journey!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Solhi posted this 10 January 2021

Let me start to wish everybody a good new year and hope we manage to halt the " great reset" and the rest of the Covid hoax insanity. That said besides some brain working I have unfortunately not had the time to do anything with this project since my last visit. Initially I thought I had to build some signal generator like a 555, but I wanted it simpler, eliminating it totally. Having had a look at some frequency filters it occurred to me it could be as simple as that. So THANK you @ourbobby, you just confirmed my anticipation and a quick test in a simulator also seems to confirm this. A DC source straight to the L1 with after that a capacitor crossed over the leads should produce enough pulses to activate the L1 to self resonance. Hope soon to build my first coils to test this.

Edit: the cap should be in serial with the L1. Sorry for the confusion.

Ourbobby posted this 26 December 2020

Hi Sampole,

"SG HL schematic

I must admit, I have spent lots of time playing with this circuit! I recall reading a comment from I think Vladimir Utkin, maybe someone else, who stated that not many people understand what this diagram represents. Also, to work, that it had to be matched in complementary resonance to the output coils. I personally have found that this understanding is much more complex than the perceived simplicity of the circuit diagram. 

A key to generation of the negative electricity is accepting that a change in perception was necessary for myself. I have spent lots of time trying to replicate this circuit and many others that are similar in construction. In my haste, I believed the correct method was to build a better pulse generator! With which approach I destroyed lots of mosfets. I have changed my approach now due to a recent fortunate incident. I recall reading that the key to this whole exercise is gentle activation of the coils to excite their inherent resonance. With this too, I spent lots of time with pulse generators. The fortunate incident I am referring to is the excitation of the resonance. 

I was replicating some experiments that used a 12v audio amplifier and connected to a signal generator into coils. I was having problems with one of the connections to the amplifier, which in turn was connected to a variable dc supply, 0 to 24v. I disconnected the sig gen, and disconnected the connection. The set up was being monitored to the oscilloscope, which was still running. Whilst repairing the connecting plug, I noticed that the high frequency output on the scope! How could this be? There was no signal!! A closer look showed that the frequency on the scope was showing 33khz. And, the output was showing 20+ volts sign wave! Astounding, to be sure. I totally disconnected the sig gen from the circuit and the power source. Still no change. I turned off the variable power supply and the waveform disappeared from the screen of the scope!. I turned the power back on to the dc supply, and lo and behold, the wave form appeared again. What was happening?

I think it is fair to say that what I had discovered was that the DC potential applied to the coils, coupled to the inherent stray capacitance, created a "static" driver which enabled the resonant outcome. There might be a more detailed explanation, but, for the moment, I am happy to use this procedure. But what has this to do with the Don Smith Neon sign transformer and the above circuit? Well I have used a Flyback set up using a mazilli driver, which will give a similar outcome to the neon sign transformer. What I concluded was that Don was using the Sign wave output from the NST through to rectification and short term storage into the shown capacitor. This then produced a similar scenario to that of my DC outcome. In my latest post to my ourbobby thread, you will see what I believe to be the preferred sign wave scope screen shot  we are seeking to proceed through the process of negative energy generation. The scope shot is using the 2Kv voltage range.

 

I wish you well

 

ourbobby

Chris posted this 09 December 2020

Hello and welcome Solhi,

Yes, you are on the right track! As Steven Mark also tells us:

 

There is Nothing Complicated! Many threads here on this forum explain everything that is needed!

If I may suggest, Replication of my experiment: Chris's Non-inductive Coil Experiment, will be the fastest path to success.

A great many here, have working machines! All at different stages, so please beware of the great Experience here and use it to your advantage.

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Solhi posted this 09 December 2020

Dear ppl. I'm pretty new to this business, besides starting many years ago casting half an eye to Nikola Tesla's works. I started a few month ago to look more serious at it in my spare time. Had some idea of "picking" energy out of the air. All those machines and other complicated stuff did not attract me, since the concept is simple, so the solution should be too. I got hold of the excellent work of Patrick Kelly giving a splendid oversight of what is going on in this field. Soon I landed on Don Smith's work because that envisioned my view. Soon it became clear to me that it's all in the coils, RF, resonance and standing waves. One claim from Patrick caught my attention, coils in the quarter wave or actually whatever wave, creates its own frequency and standing waves gives the ultimate power. After acknowledging this I was surprised to see all the work which is done on capacitors, sparc gaps, diodes and the following shifts from AC to DC and back again. If the claims of the coils (it's all in the coils) is true, than all this should be unnecessary. Well, I still have to wind a single coil and do any experiment, so time will tell. I only found confirmation of my theory in the posts of Chris (regarding the importance of coils). Today I finish my electric fence, then I start to make my coil machine. The coils will differ from the mean, but that is because I'm lazy, making coils that meet the ever changing demand for wire length is to challenging for me doing it the traditional way. I'm surprised to see the seemingly sudden death of this topic / thread, what happened?

Forelle posted this 11 April 2019

Hi everyone,

I bought "The Don Smith Magnetic  Resonance Energy Crafting Systematic Index" book from Rick Friedrich.I haven't finished it yet but i can say if someone is interessted in Don Smith devices he should consider to get it.

It is also related to bucking Coils.

Have a good day.

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Zanzal posted this 06 March 2019

Thinking about my DS proj. again.  If someone knows how to use an LED or neon bulb to find tuning points on the L3 coil, as Don alludes to in his videos, I could use pointers.  I may start out with L2 not being fully inserted and at a distance so that L3 will receive low energy.  Then I will try touching a grounded LED or bulb along the coil.  I am thinking about the voltage divider approach, thank you Mr Blobby, also.  I had some confusion on connection points and the functioning of various diodes.  I think the above picture helps me.

The electric field around the coil is detectable using an avramenko plug or a neon bulb. The neon will require a much stronger field though for Don Smith's device I doubt that will be an issue. The avramenko plug formed with 1 led and two 1n4148 diodes in a triangular arrangement can detect fields too weak to light neons. You can also detect the same field using an oscilloscope probe.

You can see some pictures and videos in this thread:

http://www.aboveunity.com/thread/zanzal-s-longitudinal-wave-research/

I used neons to detect 1/2 and 1/4 wave resonance patterns. The exact strength of the field is best determined with an oscilloscope probe like Cao Ming did in his video, but there are advantages to using neons or led in different situations.

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sampojoe posted this 06 March 2019

Thinking about my DS proj. again.  If someone knows how to use an LED or neon bulb to find tuning points on the L3 coil, as Don alludes to in his videos, I could use pointers.  I may start out with L2 not being fully inserted and at a distance so that L3 will receive low energy.  Then I will try touching a grounded LED or bulb along the coil.  I am thinking about the voltage divider approach, thank you Mr Blobby, also.  I had some confusion on connection points and the functioning of various diodes.  I think the above picture helps me. 

mrblobby posted this 09 August 2018

Only a small point, I won't mention his name. (You know why). But a certain other person has just posted a video. There is a mistake in the Don Smith schematic on the polarity of the input to the inverter.
(see the image below at section 15).
Polarities should be swapped (see additional image below).

 

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sampojoe posted this 24 July 2018

PJK book addresses stepdown transformer

In the PJK Don Smith book, a graphic is shown with a stepdown transformer.  It is shown here:

 

No capacitors are shown here either, and said to be optional for tuning.  I will attempt to shift to my calculated values for the caps and be attempting to find resonance with a diode or neon bulb also.  Notice the resistor, as it seems a requirement.  On p82, it states:

 

"This simplified circuit avoids the need for expensive capacitors and the constraints of their voltage ratings, and the need for electronic control of the output frequency. The wire length in the turns of coil "L2" still needs to be exactly four times the wire length of the turns in coil "L1", but there is only one component which needs to be introduced, and that is the resistor "R" placed across the primary winding of the step-down isolation transformer. This transformer is a laminated iron-core type (as is my MOT!), suitable for the low mains frequency, but the output from "L2" is at much higher frequency. It is possible to pull the frequency down to suit the step-down transformer by connecting the correct value of resistor "R" across the output transformer (or a coil and resistor, or a coil and a capacitor). The value of resistor needed can be predicted from the American Radio Relay League graph (shown as Fig.44 in Don's .pdf document which can be downloaded from the www.free-energy-info.com website).  The sixth edition of the Howard Sams book "Handbook of Electronics Tables andFormulas" (ISBN-10: 0672224690 or ISBN-13: 978-0672224690) has a table which goes down to 1 kHz and so does not need to be extended to reach the frequencies used here. The correct resistor value could also be found by experimentation. You will notice that an earthed dual spark gap has been placed across "L2" in order to make sure that the voltage levels always stay within the design range."

Regarding my MOT, it has a feature where the high voltage winding is terminated to the iron core and frame as a ground.  Given that the Center Taps on the air coil is ground, I have decided that is a bad feature and have disconnected the HV winding, letting it float.  I have hooked up the L1, L2 and MOT without any diodes.  I get some nice HV voltage into the HV MOT from L2 and can get a nice spark on a gapped connector, but without the R at least, I am not getting much voltage on the low voltage MOT winding.  You apparently will lose the higher frequency operation.

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sampojoe posted this 11 July 2018

Vidura, thanks for the tip:

 A MOT will not work at the expected frequencies, it has to be a hi frequency core or aircore transformer.

Yes seems obvious now.  My estimated freq of operation is 26.8 MHz.  Rare bird of a stepdown transformer that would be.  The highest I can find are switching transformers operating below 1 MHz.  Placement of diodes in these diagrams is all over the map also, so to speak.

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Vidura posted this 11 July 2018

Sampojoe: In mi understanding the two diodes on the L2 are necessary as they force the current in one direction, see similarities with the mr preva experiments. If you put the stepdown in between the bridge rectifier will not perform this purpose.You can use a stepdown after the diodes anyway as flyback type with pulsed DC. A MOT will not work at the expected frequencies, it has to be a hi frequency core or aircor transformer.

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sampojoe posted this 11 July 2018

Stumped on switching inductance diodes

I wish to build an SG with a step down transformer to control output vs a voltage divider as shwn in this sketched diagram from my original source material.  Notice it shows the use of 6 diodes, 2 switching inductance diodes, I have assumed, as Chris has spoken of in this thread these, and a diode bridge.

 

 

  Here is the schematic of the "Early Model" with the 8kv cap bank in the PJK Smith book, but it only has the diode bridge:

 

My schematic with a step down is ignoring the "switching inductance diodes", and has moved the diode bridge onto the other side of  the stepdown transformer.

 

 

 

For reference, here is a schematic about the switching diodes from p60 in the Utkin document posted by Jagur about a month back.

 

Thoughts anyone?  Does a bridge rectifier perform the same function as the switching diodes?

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sampojoe posted this 11 July 2018

Quarter Wavelength

I have covered the Quarter Wavelength many times, but the reason one needs Quarter Wavelength is simply the configuration of the Coils. Each Partnered Output Coil is Quarter Wavelength, both together is Half Wavelength.

Hey Chris, reading back to collect my thoughts, this just hit me about your post 4 weeks back.  I sort of was following the proportions of Don's pictures, and in my design, I erroneously picked up that the antenna design of L2 was one full wavelength.  I am pretty sure that is where my L2 coil is at so far, with a wavelength calculated to be 36.65', gives 2 20-turn coils at 3.5" dia.  My L1 is 12.7 turns at 2.75", supposedly to operate at 26.8 Mhz.  My L1 is 1/4 the length of L2.  So trying to make a design that resembled the look of the pics for the "Early Device", I seem to have slipped into a disagreement with the transmitter-receiver antenna design recommendations.  But in my source document and I think in the PJK Smith book, I am pretty sure it states that L2 is 4 times the length of L1, i.e. 1 full wavelength.

Would you agree that a half-wavelength receiver would be the minimum size, while the extra full wavelength would only mean that it might receive twice the signal?

PS: Studying your previous posts and vids...

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sampojoe posted this 11 July 2018

L2 Construction Complete!

Getting close, studying layout options.    

 

 

 

Shooting for about 4000v at L2.  MOT is shown, output expected around 200v.   Second stepdown transformer shown to get it down to about 50v for planned inverter models.

 

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Chris posted this 04 July 2018

Hi Chris,

 

I noticed you took the Smith videos down, already downloaded them so np but I noticed Youtube user "Rick Friedrich" also uploaded these exact videos and taking credit for them.

Please check video description where he says:

"Thanks to Don Smith's "friend" Alex for making this recording available to me for the Don Smith Resonance Energy Crafting Systematic Index. I am processing all the details of these videos and indexing everything for this extensive resource"

Looks like a con artist...

 

Hey Zed Varnett

I did not take the videos down, someone smashed me with Copyright Claim:

 

 

I have a few friends @YouTube, they are looking into the validity of these claims wink

Copyfraud refers to false copyright claims by individuals or institutions with respect to content that is in the public domain. Such claims are wrongful, at least under U.S. and Australian copyright law, because material that is not copyrighted is free for all to use

   Chris

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Zed Varnett posted this 04 July 2018

Hi Chris,

 

I noticed you took the Smith videos down, already downloaded them so np but I noticed Youtube user "Rick Friedrich" also uploaded these exact videos and taking credit for them.

Please check video description where he says:

"Thanks to Don Smith's "friend" Alex for making this recording available to me for the Don Smith Resonance Energy Crafting Systematic Index. I am processing all the details of these videos and indexing everything for this extensive resource"

Looks like a con artist...

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Chris posted this 02 July 2018

 

My Friends,

I would like to point out, the construction of a Neon Sign Transformer is almost exactly the same as Dons device featured on this thread:

 

 

 

Featured in Don Smiths Book and as he termed: "A Commercial Device" is this little beauty:

 

 

 

Which have the same internal construction as Dons previously shown device:

 

Ref: http://hotstreamer.deanostoybox.com/index.php?dir=ross%2Fprojects%2FAC_coil%2F

 

For what its worth, I believe no one else has bought these facts to the community's view? Has anyone ever investigated this before?

Don Smith did use Partnered Output Coils, he was a Pioneer in the field and was light years ahead. Don also gave credit to those before him, those that also used these very important concepts!

   Chris

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Chris posted this 02 July 2018

My Friends,

On my path to learn more and expand my thinking of how I perceive Energy Machines, i found another rather excellent replication:

 

Attached below is the PDF Document:

   Chris

 

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sampojoe posted this 02 July 2018

RE: Vidura, thanks as I hopefully will be trying to dissect your recommendations on a working circuit soon.  

Making some progress on the L2 construction.
The lower former is ~1/2" smaller

Slipping the coil over the frame
The CW coil completed CCW frame ready to go    

I've added a couple extra turns as I will connect where resonance is found, and did not want to be short.

Zed Varnett posted this 01 July 2018

Hi Chris,

Thanks for the info on YDownloader, just what I needed And would definitely also like to thank MrBlobby for making it possible for others to see these gems. They are priceless, especially the 1994 video that provides more info on the ground resistor shunt and its connection to rising waveform - the thing that Don didn't talk about much on Yahoo Group and newer conference videos, only giving generic descriptions like "proper grounding", "adjustable grounding" etc.

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Vidura posted this 30 June 2018

Hi sampojoe. When i was viewing the Smith videos posted by Chris in the one titled coils are antennas Don has cleanly stated that the 220Mhz frequency applied to the primary of his generator and the secondary has a different resonant frequency. Note that he used to my knowledge always the single capacitor configuration on the primary, where the spark gap isolates the coil from the capacitor on one side, this has the effect that the primary will be oscillating at a high frequency, because the capacitance formed by the hv power supply is small and the second end of the coil is open after the spark.Here I have to add that actually in the moment of the spark there is a LC series oscillating with the Hv capacitor, but only for a very short time, the off time is much longer(depending on the input power) In this configuration you will actually have deal with two different frequencies on the primary. If for practical consideration and component limitations lower frequencys are desired, the double capacitor configuration used commonly by Tesla could be a better choice, and might give a more accurate resonant tank circuit. As the two capacitors couples directly to the primary the resonant frequency will be considerable lower and the state of the spark gap have no influence on the resonant frequency If you have a signal generator you can measure the resonant frequencies for a previous tuning, using simply a led on convenient points to check resonance.

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Chris posted this 30 June 2018

Hi and welcome Zed Varnett,

Our member MrBlobby actually put me on to these videos so we should thank him for his offers and sharing!

Copyright is something I agree with for new products, for products with any age I completely dissagree with, however, I am just a single man not able to change the rules.

We have a awesome bunch of people here, feel free to ask questions, create hreads as you wish. We have no Trolls here and we are very prous of our Troll Free Zone!

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Zed Varnett posted this 30 June 2018

VHS tapes

These 3 VHS tapes were also on sale thru zpfilms.com (Christopher Patton's website, the same guy who filmed Don's 1998 office interview with bonus part).

Video descriptions mention the following:

"In September of 1998, Don Smith gave an elated audience an unprecedented look at his latest "Over Unity" generator.  A series of coiled magnets, in parallel, separated by special material that is rotated by a micro D.C. motor is reminiscent of the John Ecklin Device. Don has devised a way of pulsing these magnets and according to him the energy potential is in the thousands of watts range."

"The Audience wasn't going to let Don walk away without explaining his new device, so, after a long debate he reluctantly gives up his secrets and explains how to construct your own magnetic coil device. The slide show from the first lecture is essential to understanding what the device does and how it looks when its completed."

I was looking for these tapes without a success...

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Zed Varnett posted this 30 June 2018

Hello Chris,

I'm the owner of energyevo.com (you might have seen collection of Don's Yahoo Group posts there before =)

First of all, I want to thank you for your dedication and contribution to this field of new energy technologies. Seeing these 4 new Don Smith videos is like a miracle, thanks so much for releasing them! I knew these VHS tapes existed but for some reason no one ever talked about them Your decision to share them is very much appreciated!

I guess you've already seen this audio recording of 2003 Inventor's Weekend conference that was also missing on the net for some reason

Regarding the 1994 Tesla conference, any chance you could upload an original (uncut) version to some file sharing website? including all the guff...

Keep up the great work and thanks again!

Chris posted this 30 June 2018

My Friends,

I tried to share another video from Don Smith and it was instantly removed, instantly as soon as I hit the publish button.

 

The video is actually this one with all the guff removed:

 

 

So, clearly YouTube are running their Copyright Algorithm on Name and Description first.

 

   Chris

 

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sampojoe posted this 25 June 2018

MM: HaHa, he got bit bad by the Tesla bug.  Vid: Yeah the wavelength if applied to the possible length of the BW coil will be a little longer than mine, as I think it is a 4" coil, judging from the catalog posted by Chris.  Hmm, that would move it toward 22MHz!  I wonder if Don got an extra zero in his calculation?  Some construction info below in case someone finds it useful.

My L2 Construction

I have not been able to find some essential components to build my L2 by the method found in the PJK's Practical Guide to Free Energy Devices on Don Smith Resonant Energy Systems publication. I think it might be easier than what I have so far, but I may try it next time, as I still hunt for what else I need for those construction techniques.  I have everything I need for my alternative and have started it.  Here is a picture of the components:

 

 

My basic construction will be each coil half will be shaped around the white rings cut from a 3.5" PVC pipe.  Each half will have a ring on each side and fastened together on 4 5/16" fiberglass poles.  Each pole will be countersunk and held by a 2-56 screw and epoxied also.  In order for the coil to have a 1/4" spacing, 20 slots will be made in each pole, but staggered by 1/16" from pole to pole to accomodate the "screw" pattern of the wire.  In order to make those slots I put 4 poles in a wood holder with the stagger step at each block on the side.  I can now make 4 properly aligned slots on each pole at once, which are marked on the white poles.  I will use 2 blades together to get the required .08" slot for 12ga. wire.   I calculate the coil length to be about 5" but the total length will be 6", in case I need to move out to gain resonance.  

 

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Vidura posted this 24 June 2018

Awesome coil MM. I imagine a coil like this in a Smith generator could power an entire city!! @sampojoe Your comment in the secondary coils calculations about the capacitors, I am in doubt about the 220mhz operation of the original device, as the output rectifier would need to operate at4.5ns period wave, what devices could manage this?

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Marathonman posted this 24 June 2018

I know this is a distraction for which i am very sorry but it is very funny as i have been laughing for hours and i hope you find humor in it also.

here is my secondary i might use for my Don Smith replication, i hope it is big enough as i plan on powering my house with it i hope.

I ordered it special from BW and i might need help on the calculations.

Please forgive me Sampojoe.

Marathonman

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Chris posted this 21 June 2018

Im not sure if this has been mentioned but the Barker and Williamson coils have been tin dipped he said, when you coat a wire with tin it increased is magnetic field by like 300%. thats all. 

Hey AHargris - Wow thanks, I did not know that!

   Chris

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AHargis75 posted this 21 June 2018

Im not sure if this has been mentioned but the Barker and Williamson coils have been tin dipped he said, when you coat a wire with tin it increased is magnetic field by like 300%. thats all. 

Chris posted this 21 June 2018

@Sampojoe - For the record, I think your'e doing an awesome job!

I apologise if my posts are in anyway short of rude, that's not my intention, I am only trying to help. Please understand, I spend many hundreds of hours, sourcing, sorting, and referencing Data for all here. My word is only a small part of what I am trying to share,

In many cases my posts are planned out well in advance.

I spend a lot of time just keeping things going. Like most of us, I have a lot of other things I have to also attend to.

So, Good Job, keep the good work up, if you keep it simple and keep it to Dons Device and his excellent advice, many will benefit very soon. Remember, it is Partnered Output Coils where the magic happens, find their resonant Frequency and make the coils talk to each other as Don said.

   Chris

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sampojoe posted this 21 June 2018

Hey Sampojoe,

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Start with the Output Coils, get them working properly and then the Input can be constructed around the requirements of your Partnered Output Coils.

   Chris

Exactly!  So in that direction, I will build them on "paper" first!

Frequency calculations affecting L1 & L2 Design mods.

I am going to design around Don's L2 and work backwards to establish L1 parameters. My L2 coil former will be 3.5” in diameter. A 40 turn coil length will equal one wavelength at about 11.2m, or 26.8MHz. At a quarter wavelength, the L1 must then be 2.8m in length. On my 2.75” D L1 former, I must cut back my current model to 12.75 turns. This takes care of the physical parameters of my "antenna" to support my selected frequency.  

Next, we must look at the electrical characteristics. Lets calculate the inductance of the L1 coil first, using my Navy Basic Electricity Training Manual. The formula is:

L=.4πN2μA x 10-8/l , μ is permeability(=1 for air coil), A cross-section cm2, N turns, l coil length cm

 

L1 inductance comes in at 2.4 microhenries. Now we calculate the value of capacitance needed to create resonance at the right frequency, using a formula from my Foundations of Electromagnetic Theory,

ω2=1/LC -or- solve for L, L=1/C ω2, or solve for C, C=1/L ω2

Now here is a surprise. C calculates to be 576 pF!! This is considerably smaller than than what is shown in Don's display models at .2uF. With smaller components comes a price savings!  Of course, this will be a starting point, and any and various means mentioned in this thread will be employed to fine tune the system. Also the addition of a ferrite core, estimated at a permeability of 500 will lower the value of the capacitance to about 1pF!  

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Chris posted this 21 June 2018

Hey Sampojoe,

I saw and read your Barker and Williamson Coils and yes you're right. But still, they are off the shelf.

Technically the term "Partnered Output Coils" is defined as any device, or any machine that has Two Output Coils, any... The key word being Two.

I have provided a Pseudo Schematic for convenience for the public. I have predefined two optimum configurations that can be easily learned from, from very early days, in my Guidelines to bucking Coils, around 4 or so years ago now, and others that do not work very well in my Thread: Some Coils Buck n some Coils DONT - Winding direction is dependant on Configuration and not defined in the Term: "Partnered Output Coils"..

I have stated on many occasions, this can work many hundreds of ways, there is no right or wrong. This is the reason for the Pseudo Schematic. 

Critically, the Interactions between these Two Output Coils are what "Generates" Electrical Energy.

Start with the Output Coils, get them working properly and then the Input can be constructed around the requirements of your Partnered Output Coils.

I hope you succeed!

   Chris

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Aetherholic posted this 21 June 2018

Some information, maybe useful or not.

It is very probable that Don Smith used a layer of piezo electric material underneath his L1 coil. It can be seen as a black layer on the L1 former in the last series of videos he made where he is going through some old photographs of his many builds. I believe he said it is the same material used for under road vibration electricity generation.

"If you wish to understand the universe think of energy, frequency and vibration." - Tesla

 

 

Aetherholic - One truth, One field

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sampojoe posted this 21 June 2018

The use of the BW coil is mentioned in my original source material obtainable at Line 4 of my post, and also mentioned in PJ Kelly's Don Smith book.  Here it is in this well-known picture, but to which I have added enumeration of points of interest: 

It is clearly a 4" 40 turn model, about 12 gauge, cut in half, and then joined again at location 8 in the diagram.  

Please note.  This means, and you can clearly see, that both halves are CW wound, and thus not a partnered CW/CCW pair.

The first wire comes down from overhead, is joined on the junction block with the second wire, which then proceeds to go under the pipe to the second coil in the same winding direction, as opposed to reversing to CCW.  This is why I posted the workaround modified hyiq parthered coil diagram.  I will strive to prove it after a successful DS build is achieved.

 

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Marathonman posted this 20 June 2018

WOW ! I never realized it before Chris but you are totally right, Don did use two BW's in his device. well kiss my grits how in the world did i ever miss that one,

THANKS !

Marathonman

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Chris posted this 20 June 2018

My Friends,

I have always stated, focus on hard facts and nothing else. Here is some hard data for you.

Barker and Williamson still sell Coils, the following website: https://www.bwantennas.com/ - Notice the use of Antennas in the URL

Barker & Williamson air wound inductors have been an industry standard since their introduction in 1932. They offer high Q and mechanical stability, and come in a variety of sizes. Diameters from 1/2 to 6 inches, coil lengths to 22 inches, and wire sizes from AWG #8 to #24. The coils are wound with tinned solid copper wire that is embedded in plastic ribs.

Now, the Website has a catalogue, copied for your convenience:

 

EDIT; My mistake on Coil Turns, removed for correctness and clarity.

 

My Friends, this is hard data off the website, Don stated exactly and empirically:The Output Coils are off the shelf, no modifications, stock standard Coil, 

 

Remember what Don said, its all about getting "the Coils to Talk to each other":

 

We know Don referred to L2 as a singular Coil, I do not, it is two separate Coils, I call them Partnered Output Coils. Each Coil must by Faraday's Law of Electromagnetic Induction, induce an E.M.F on the other and this will be in opposition to the change, so the Amplitude on half of L2 that is resonant must induce the same change but in the opposite direction to the other half of L2, so technically, these two Coils are separate, they are individual Coils, each having an individual task and doing work on each other.

again, which Don has also said:

 

Lets keep this simple, lets not complicate where no complications are necessary. Does everyone know what Wattless power is? Research this, Don also referred to it. Learn why 

   Chris

 

P.S: I am not always right, and will admit it, I am still learning. I encourage all here to do their own homework, check and double check, Hard Fact can never be proven wrong, no matter how good the Troll is!

 

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Chris posted this 19 June 2018

Sapmpjoe and all following,

If I may put my 2 cents in, I think there is some confusion here.

Don used off the shelf Barker & Williamson Coil Stock:

 

 

There is One Turn difference from this coil to Don's Coils, almost ZERO Modifications to the Off the Shelf Coils, remember he had two back to back:

 

One Coil was LC Resonant with a small Capacitor parallel to the Coil. This Coil must be bought into Resonance or tuned for resonance.

 

 

The Wavelength that needs to be worked with is the Resonant Frequency of the device, not of the NST or any other component. The Coils them selves must be bought into resonance, just like I showed in the above quote, just as The Mr Preva Experiment shows, just as we have learnt in our follow up experiments. This is the Wavelength that needs to be worked with, none others!

The Input is only a catalyst for the Output Coils, its the tickle under the Chin, its the "Common boys we got work to do" but as always the boss does no work!

Start from the Output and work back, its much easier, do not focus on your Input, its going to change no matter how good a guess you make!

Remember, 16/17 Turns to 4 Turns = 1/4 or 0.25 the Wire length, of the Output Coil. Focus on the fact that ALL EM Energy sits in the 1/4 Wavelength:

 

 

Remember our work in the Parametric Resonance area:

 

EDIT: Its worth noting, the Partnered Output Coil that is LC Resonant, will most definitely change the Resonance Frequency when the Second Partnered Output Coil is connected, so for this reason, one must tune with this in mind!

Also Remember: 1 + -1 + 1 = 1

In other words, the Second Output Coil stops all negative and actually is additive to the input, so the Resonance on the Output Coils, the same as in The Mr Preva Experiment and also the Diodes, brings a positive affect on the Input. 

   Chris

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Chris posted this 19 June 2018

@Sampojoe

The modifications to my Graphic of Partnered Output Coils is not correct!

Your drawing does not directly follow any of the information I have laid out.

My main and long time released Circuit for these Coils is Parallel and this is also what my recent set of experiments with CD_Sharp shows.

 

 

I have detailed another Configuration also:

 

 

One must remember, the E.M.F and also the Current is "Generated" by the Action - It opposes because its Lenz's Law

 

Two Configurations I have found that work, and one can be better than the other. I have covered this in great detail in my Thread: Some Coils Buck n some Coils DONT and also in my pdf document: Guidelines to Bucking Coils.

 

Some more helpful Info:

 

   Chris

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Chris posted this 19 June 2018

DummyLoad - Excellent reference!

This is true, a node can easily be fouund:

 

Studding carefully here one can see some very important details!

   Chris

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dummyload posted this 19 June 2018

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sampojoe posted this 19 June 2018

But getting back to the quarter wave stuff, I have not gotten a good look anywhere of exactly the size of Don's L1, but it seems only about 2.5' total length, on a ~2" pipe, (I say it is 2.5"), it would have to be closer to 36MHz, not Don's 220MHz. And the 19-turn full wave Barker-Williams coils, comes out to be more like 18Mhz, again not the 220MHz.  Don't you think my L1 is at least twice as large as Don's?  I will go over my wavelength calculations again.  Agreed that the 4-1 ratio is key as an rf transmitter-receiver arrangement, but not getting close to 220MHz so far.

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sampojoe posted this 19 June 2018

How to Make Uni-directional Wound Coils "Buck".

 

In Chris' partnered coils hyiq lead off photo, let us examine coil winding and current flow.  As we employ this circuit, we use AC current as Nikola Tesla and Don Smith did.  Lets take a snap-shot of current flow in one direction, as indicated by the black current arrows in the coil wires, to understand how it works.  In doing this I am just extrapolating the right-hand rule to the generation of a magnetic field by current in a wire.  Due to the change in coil winding direction from Clockwise to Counter-Clockwise, these coils generate opposing North magnetic fields, cancelling themselves to give us current amplification, as I understand so far.

 

 

 

In the video I posted back in Jan. on Kdkinen's work on the Smith Generator, he uses Barker-Williams stock coils hooked up in "series", just as Don shows in his display model, all wound in the same direction.  He notes he gets significantly better performance, however, when he has hooked the coils up in "parallel".  What exactly does that mean?   These coils are wound in one direction only.  The question I would like to elucidate is,

Can you make two coils wound in the same direction behave as indicated above when they are wound either both CW, or CCW?  If so, how?"  

I wish to illustrate what he means using Chris' diagram slightly redrawn to illustrate it.  In the following diagram, both coils are wound CCW.  The twist direction is a coil's unique property.  It is the same no matter how the coil is rotated to examine it.  The right side coil is the same and in this snap-shot of DC current, with it exiting out at connection B, the same for Chris' coil.

 

In order for the left coil to generate an opposing N magnetic field, the current must be driven in the opposite direction if both coils are wound in the same direction.  Using the right-hand rule, the input point A of the left coil must be moved to the middle of the whole coil.  The center-point connection C must now be made from the left side of the coil to the left side of the right coil.  For a CW coil to generate cancelling N magnetic fields, the current flow in the above diagram must be reversed also.  That is how an off-the-shelf Barker-Williamson coil, or any set of coils wound in the same direction can be connected to achieve partnered output performance.

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Chris posted this 19 June 2018

I hope this helps some:

 

   Chris

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