Lenz Free Pickup Coil [UNDERUNITY]

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Zanzal posted this 26 March 2018

I've been playing around with a system for the last few days that involves Lenz free power transfer. I'm not entirely sure where it is leading, but I've made a few observations. It is not a traditional transformer as the power output by the system is not proportional to the input. However, it is also not clear at this point whether such a system can be even 100% efficient much less OU. Nevertheless it is very interesting to play with and may be unexplored territory for new innovation.

Here is the basic pickup coil:

This would be the secondary of the system, the primary being anything you want. I used both the L1 from GBluer's slayer exciter kit which works well, and I also stuck a MrPreva in the center which worked very nicely. 

To get the most out of the system your primary will need to be frequency adjustable. Diodes can be anything that works well with Avramenko plugs. Capacitors should be high voltage. The system acts as a potential pump converting what needs to be many thousand volts of potential into work. An air core is not strictly necessary, so a MOT can also be used. I've not done much testing with this but basically any system that can produce large voltages and can be tuned to a nice resonant frequency will produce power with minimal draw on the primary. 

This is made possible because no current (or perhaps very little) flows through the secondary. Should the two ends of the secondary be joined current will flow and the potential will collapse.

 

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Chris posted this 26 March 2018

Hey Zanzal - Awesome!

You hit the nail on the head, using the term "Resonance" - An Antenna, or a wave guide is the same thing, A piece of wire, at resonance has a specific wavelength and the wavelength and the Coil along with the associated distributed capacitance or external capacitance will allow for Magnetic Resonance.

Nice work and thank you for sharing.

   Chris

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Zanzal posted this 03 April 2018

So I thought I'd share something additional regarding this setup. My signal generator outputs a sine wave and almost no current (< 1uA). In fact the current is so low my multimeter won't even read it on the uA scale. Yet when the signal generator is attached to a 5 turn primary and the frequency is tuned to resonance the output power scales with the signal generator sine wave voltage (current is always < 1uA).

To make things even more strange when one end of a large inductor/antenna (1lb spool of 28AWG wire) is placed at one of the LED anodes and the system is re-tuned to resonance the LEDs glow even brighter. Although adding the current meter into the circuit to measure the LED current decreases the LED's brightness (not a resonance thing but impedance I think), the LED reads a current of 4mA voltage of 52Vpp but the input coil has < 1 uA 20Vpp. (Currents and voltages measured in AC). So anyway, I'm pretty much at a loss except to say the current used in the primary represents wasted energy. This system apparently doesn't need it.

Oh and if all that isn't odd enough, I only need to attach one terminal of my signal generator to the primary. Though it works better when primary is a closed loop.

EDIT: The above was incorrect. I was not reading current correctly due to a faulty fuse in my multimeter, signal generator does put out current around 35mA @ 20V.

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Wistiti posted this 03 April 2018

Hey Zanzal! Thank you for sharing your research! It is interesting effect...

Just curious, have you try adding earth ground on the load side of your circuit?

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Zanzal posted this 03 April 2018

Hey Zanzal! Thank you for sharing your research! It is interesting effect... Just curious, have you try adding earth ground on the load side of your circuit?

Hey Wistiti,

I've touched various areas of the circuit with the oscilloscope ground on occasion just to see if anything interesting happens. I've got nothing to report on that. I am only in very earlier stages studying this effect and I wasn't doing a lot of power measurements just using the brightness of the leds to give me an indication of power relative to previous test runs.. Even tuning it I no longer use the oscilliscope to compare voltage waveforms, just looking at the LEDs I can tell if the configuration has improved on the previous configurations.

Chris suggested isolating my signal generator. I'll report back if that has a significant impact on the results. Considering only the primary would be effected by the grounding I don't think its a factor but if I am wrong or I discover something new I'll post an update.

A couple of things I am looking at: I think the Avramenko plugs I am using could be made more efficient. Also, if current isn't required in the primary then the implications are astonishing. I'd want to build an efficient isolated HV sine wave generator to test that further.

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Chris posted this 03 April 2018

Hey Zanzal, this is great to see! Thanks for sharing!

I am still thinking about your results, so I will keep it short.

Power, Apparent, Real and Reactive, all have relationships with Time and Phase, but being that your setup is using so little current, it would be very hard to measure anyway.

Average power, however, can only be amplified with the methods you point out, Amplifying Current (We know how to do via The Mr Preva Experiment) and Amplifying Voltage, well we all know how to do that.

Your results sound very promising! A very interesting experiment! Again, thank you for sharing!

   Chris

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Wistiti posted this 04 April 2018

Hi Zanzal when i talk about the ground i mean a real earth ground like a coper pipe burried in the ground... here is a video on an experiment i have done with HV in the past where you can see the intensity of the light goes up when i connect the ground to the circuit.

I think you are on something. I will replicate when the time permit and share here my result.

Again thank you for sharing! it is the way we learn together!

Zanzal posted this 04 April 2018

Thanks guys, so I learned a good lesson today. Sometimes a measurement error really is a measurement error. I tracked down the problem to a bad fuse in my multimeter. Which of course really makes me wonder how it managed to read 4mA through a bad fuse yesterday. A mystery I am not really interested in solving ATM. My multimeter may also have some issues as it read AC current inconsistently depending on the range selected so at 00.00mA and 000.0mA it gives wildly different results. A sign that I need a better measuring device. The high value for current at resonance was around 35mA. It appears that current output by my SG is significantly higher than my output, total energy at resonance is still not significant enough to invest in high quality measuring devices to determine how close to unity the system is. So unfortunately, I still have a lot of work to do to see how efficient the system can be.

Wistiti posted this 04 April 2018

hehehe! it is also the way we learn!

This kind of mesure error happen many time in my case! it is even frequent when dealing with battery! Dont be mad about it, it is experiment that forge your research! i will give it a try and let you know. ;-)

 

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Jagau posted this 04 April 2018

     hi zantal

very interesting,

it is very important to know the specs of our DVM, mine in AC voltage is not more than 50 Khz and DC maximum 5 Khz.

I prefer to take the oscilloscope to take measurements closer to reality.

Still, the way to take current measurements with an oscilloscope is more complicated than voltage.

I believe that will be an interesting topic for everyone.

 

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Enjoykin2118 posted this 05 April 2018

Hi Zanzal.

Excellent experiments  -thank you.

You could try catch MQR "Microscopic Quantum Resonance", and the miracles would begin. MCR disclose yourself at some unknown point in this range 3,73 kV +-100V. You need variable HV DC voltage,

Also try to close loop at 377 ohm impendance (free space impendance) or maybe 7000 ohm (Tesla MFT transformer impendance) using some precise vairable resitor and variable spark gap.

Be extremely careful while working with microwave owen transformers (MOTs) because high voltage and high current produced by latter. Also will be very interesting trying direct polarising different electro positive/electro negative metals in different branches of circuit in your experiment setup.

Best wishes

Enjoykin

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