Magnetic Current switching Device

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Vidura posted this 31 August 2018

In this Thread I will post a project which called my attention since some time ago,

it is an electro mechanical dynamo machine usually called flux switching generator.

A couple of years ago I stumbled about a video from such a generator which called

my attention. Certainly most of this videos claiming self-running generators are Fake,

but we can't be sure until to make our own benchwork and testing. First I was looking for information to find any proof of concept, experiments which could give some practical usable results. I did not find a lot, there where discussions at free energy forum, also some doubtful videos, others with irrelevant setups.

So i was thinking about how to design a test setup which can hopefully proof or discard the concept.

So in this thread I will share the newest project that I'm working on, and will you keep updated with the building progress and experiments.

After doing some simple tests with the magnetic circuits I came to the conclusion that this setup should bring clarity and will be versatile for testing different variants of operation as it allows to change coils and cores easily. Here a rough sketch:

The construction consists of a fixed shaft with two pairs of cylindrical neo magnets (20 x 20mm) on opposite sides of the former. Over this shaft a drum shaped rotor made of reinforced resin is mounted with two roller bearings. This drum has on the circumference segments of a high permeability material, which are distributed in a manner to switch the magnetic current alternately between the generation coils and a shorting segment on the rotor. As there is no reversal of the polarity, one generation coil provides the positive halfwaves and the other the negative one, separated by two diodes. The best materials should be found experimental. I made some tests with a magnet pair and a simple magnetic circuit, and found that the idea to use encapsulated iron powder did not perform well, there was a lot of magnetic leakage. So I have tried with laminated silicone steel sheets, which gave a good result when the correct size is used. If the eddy currents keeps in acceptable values it should perform well, this has to be found out by experiments. The cores of the coils could be iron ,as there will be no eddy current losses without polarity reversal, only some hysteresis losses. Although the laminated silicon steel seems to have some advantage, a slightly higher permeability.

I will keep the header of the thread short in order to make easier the access to the newest bottom.

The related videos are in the next post:

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Vidura posted this 31 August 2018

One Video that I found relevant is this experiment from the German GUF foundation:

Low Lenz Flux Generator Update 230 Volt Free Energy

 

This machine shows very clearly that when correctly tuned the input power decreases notably when the load is connected, and the RPM increase. The device is not above unity, in my opinion cause due to a design error in the rotors.

In this design the magnets and the output coils are stationary and separated by rotating iron discs with holes in between , and there is the mistake: a rotating conductive disc near a magnet acts as a break, and will greatly increase the required power to rotate it.

 

 

New Generator Electric No effect Back EMF Low

 The New Generator Electric No Effect back Emf Part 2 Low

The concept of the original design on the video from Indonesia appears to be more convenient, as it uses blocks of laminated silicon steel sheets instead of a solid iron switching element, also the  drum shaped rotor, with will withstand the force of the magnets better. But the design is not at all clear, as the builder states to use a great number of neo magnets, and the device seems to have many poles, as it works at low rpm, all this is not consistent with the drawings he showed( in part 1 of the videos).

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Vidura posted this 05 September 2018

Here a video from the first steps of building the device:

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Vidura posted this 05 September 2018

This experimental setup is kept as simple as possible, the basic operation from a step by step view is quite simple and straitforeward: when the swiching rotor is turning the magnetic current is alternatly shunted by a ferromagnetic segment (nr7 in drawing) and then swiched over to a outputcoil by two passing segments (nr8),. The two outputcoils are working 180ª out of phase, as the swiching elements are 120ª displaced on the circunference. As the magnets and the outputcoils are fixed , the Lenzeffect  in theory will not slow down the rotor, only the field of the magnets will be diminuished. 

Anyway it is expected that the magnetic current will not change in a linear manner, but more likely in a dynamic way, the behavor most certainly will be speeddependent with a interaction with the moving rotor, and the results from similar setups have shown that eventually the BMMF can be delayed to a point where the rotor will be accelerated by the Lenz effect.

Depending on the results from the tests of this setup, a more powerful version with electromagnets and a positive current feedback from the output will be planned.

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Chris posted this 06 September 2018

Hi Vidura,

I have built a few Motor / "Generators" machines in my time. I am a nube however...

I very much enjoy seeing this content posted! Thank You!

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P.S: the last video reminded me of the Video Zanzal posted:

Vidura posted this 21 September 2018

 Hi All!

Finally i could advance something  with this device. I was working out  again in theory the details of construction and found  some things to improve: As the induced voltage will depend on the rate of change of the magnetic field i have increased the number of the switching segments on the rotor from 3 shunts and 6 conductors to 5 shunts  and 10 conductors, decreasing the wide to the same size of the magnets. This should give a better sine-wave shape too. Here some images:

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