The 1Plus1Minus1 POC setup study

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cd_sharp posted this 14 August 2020

Hey, guys

Long time off the forum, but not off the work-bench. I'm stuck with this setup on my bench that shows some cool features. I'll document anything I can about it and I'll add a schema soon. First thing, the self resonance of the entire system, L1 in series with POC1 and POC2. We have cancellation of inductance between POCs and some inductance in L1, aprox. 1/4 turns count. I'm not sure it will work, but I post the video from Vimeo.

https://vimeo.com/user121381871/review/447840733/8e6ab76e7d

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

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Fighter posted this 14 August 2020

Hi Cd_Sharp, the link is not working.

Edit: Found it, it's here:

cd_sharp posted this 14 August 2020

Hey, Fighter, my friend

Thanks, I was in a hurry and I didn't have the time to investigate how to fix the player.

This is the schema of the device:

This setup is very interesting. I'll be back with details.

Note: Why I'm using Vimeo besides Youtube? I think especially in the current context there is a need for competition and monopolies are not good.

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Chris posted this 14 August 2020

Hey Guys,

There is no reason this should not work. The Input Pulse is going to be important here, needing to be 1/4 wavelength, maximum amplitude on the Waveform.

Essentially, Don Smith Style Circuit:

 

 

At 1/4 Wavelength, we have maximum Voltage Potential.

Apologies, when I was learning this stuff, some of my images and writings may not have been clear at times! You can see, Full vs 1/4 wave above, we are working with Half and Quarter wave.

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friends,

   Chris

baerndorfer posted this 15 August 2020

nice build cd_sharp!

i would recommend using a capacitor in parallel with the load. in my case the energy on the output increases.

regards!

cd_sharp posted this 15 August 2020

Hey, my friends

We have a true brotherhood in here. Thank you for the help and kind words. This is center-tap / pig-tail setup I've first seen in a patent of Nikola Tesla. Don Smith was the one who made it a celebrity.

The schema including the probes we see in the video:

Next, the video..

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

cd_sharp posted this 15 August 2020

It's ready:

 

 

It's not AU, but I don't care for now. Why is there current on the pink trace during the on-time? How can I increase it? I'll be back with measurements of inductances, capacitances, resistances and anything else comes to mind. All these numbers must correlate.

Also, playing with the input pulse might increase the effect as Chris suggested. 1/4 wavelength pulse duration, but wavelength of what?

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

alohalaoha posted this 15 August 2020

Hey CD

Same config like in mag.amplifiers.

 

Jagau posted this 15 August 2020

Hi CD
Interesting setup CD , experimentation shows us some interesting things here.

Aloha your schema is not the same as CD which has 3 coils and 2 diodes in the same direction.

Well done CD, I follow you with interest.

Jagau

cd_sharp posted this 15 August 2020

My friends,

I'm convinced there is some numerical match. We just have to find it. I start uploading the relevant data.

L1 inductance = 0.332 mH :

POC2 inductance = 5.09 mH :

POC1 inductance = 5.24 mH :

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

cd_sharp posted this 15 August 2020

Capacitance between L1 and POC2 = 248 pF:

Capacitance between POC1 and POC2 = 23.8 pF:

Capacitance between L1 and POC1 = 22.6 pF:

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

cd_sharp posted this 16 August 2020

Hey, guys

I think capacitance to the core could be relevant. Here are the numbers:

Capacitance between L1 and the core = 26.3 pF:

Capacitance between POC2 and the core = 28.2 pF:

Capacitance between POC1 and the core = 3.9 pF:

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

cd_sharp posted this 16 August 2020

Hey, guys

Next, the resistance values.

Short circuit resistance = 0.16 ohms :

L1 resistance = 0.25 - 0.16 = 0.09 ohms:

POC2 resistance = 1.15 - 0.16 = 0.99 ohms

POC1 resistance = 1.17 - 0.16 = 1.1 ohms :

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Chris posted this 16 August 2020

Thanks for Sharing CD!

This is solid work! You are on the right track!

If I may, the Rotary Transformer was a great addition at the time, June 19, 2015, Here.

It would seem that a bucking coil arrangement dose indeed add energy to a system. My test over the years have shown this to be true,but all my devices that use this arrangement are mechanical--E.G-,motors,generators.

 

in the days following these videos were posted:

 

Of course, before these videos, we never saw anything even close to similar to this operation! Tinman never did any videos prior to this date where any sort of Bucking, in general, was ever used.

MIT gives us the following video, demonstrating Electromagnetic Induction: 

 

What MIT shows us, above, is Symmetrical Regauging!

Of course this is standard Faraday's Law of Electromagnetic Induction! Its called Parasitic Induction when Engineers do not want this to occur in their circuits! Its absolutely silly, why would anything natural be parasitic?

Like everything, there is a Yin and a Yang to this process!

 

The Yin is the gain in potential:

 

The Yang is the Potential Decaying:

 

Of course, this is normal, Science knows about this, but we have found a way to do this, that creates a Gain in Total Energy over time: Asymmetrical Regauging.

As soon as Tinman showed these images:

 

I knew it was real and he did what the videos showed, Above Unity Measurements!

The point of this post, is the Input Coil!

 

The Speed of the Potential Gained is important! @1ms per division, we can see, the Voltage Gained, 25 Volts, is a process that happens very fast! Very fast indeed! There is a few ways this can be done, and I do not wish to confuse you, so I will start with the most logical method, one we have covered before: Coil Length.

In the MEG, we saw very thin Input Coils:

Marked in Red, above, you can see, the length of the Coils is very short!

Remember the equation: B = μnl

 

B is not field strength, H is, but you get the idea. The input Coil is setup and configured to make the Partnered Output Coils interact in such a way to gain Potential at the best possible area of operation! XL and XC Cancel, we have a Resonance:

 

Where the DC Resistance of the Coils, being negligible, is the only thing impeding the Gain in Potential. You remember my image:

 

I am going to take a guess, at 1 millisecond per division, we have a Voltage gain in approximately: 0.2 of a millisecond. or 200 microseconds.

200 Microseconds is approximately where Tinman's Partnered Output Coils were resonant, not necessarily ours! We need to find this resonance.

NOTE: This post is aimed toward improvements only and is next step advice! Basic knowledge of the Coils and Interactions has already been gained and achieved. Please understand, much of this may not make sense if this basic knowledge is not been obtained already. CD has already done this.

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friend,

   Chris

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