The MrPreva Experiment

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admin posted this 23 March 2017

I think this is perhaps one of the most important experiments anyone could do! A huge amount of information can be learned by running this very simple experiment!

The MrPreva Experiment Circuit

Please Note: The Current's (I), add, Floyd Sweet talked about this specifically:

In the specific case of positive charges moving to the right and negative charges to the left, the effect of both actions is positive charge moving to the right.

Current to the right is: I = da+ / dt + da- / dt.


Negative electrons flowing to the left contribute to the current flowing to the right.

 

The total Current, is the Sum of the both Currents!

 

We see, 2.8 Amps (da+ / dt) + 2.3 Amps (da/ dt) = the shown: 5.1 Amps as Floyd Sweet told us.

We see a Negative Power Factor, where the Voltage (V) Current (I) are out of phase by a Degree, which results in a Negative Power Factor!

cos(theta)

Where theta is the Phase angle in Degrees. EG:

cos(180) =  -1

 

You will see there are some problems with the MrPreva Circuit, and it is explained, because, the Current (da- ) has become a Generator, or a Battery, which is the only time  Kirchhoff's Current Law does not hold in an applied situation. 

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Chris posted this 18 September 2018

Hey Vidura,

Do you mean the Thread: Some Coils Buck n some Coils DONT

You're right, many threads here are based on this Thread! I think most here would agree we have broken ground, we have thoroughly investigated this and we have volumes of data on this phenomena!

Yes, CD's Thread also is based on this Tech: Finding the LL resonant frequency

I don't want to bore the members that have already read and researched this Tech, but for the new comers, there is a lot to be learned! A lot to experiment with!

   Chris

 

Vidura posted this 18 September 2018

It's a rough analogy, but it helps to understand what's happening. I wonder if you had a center tap on each coil with a diode, connected to ground such that you could pull electrons in from ground? You'd have to drive it pretty hard to get the node of the standing waves below 0 volts such that electrons are pulled in from ground, but it could be done.

You can see the circuit which posted Chris in the thread "finding the resonant frequency of a LL resonant circuit", it has no centertap, is similar to the mr. preva circuit,but the current is forced in opposed direction by diodes, and it has no tank capacitor. In this thread you can see a video from the experiment I had posted. Regarding the electron pumping CDsharp has posted a experiment where he could do this in a very similar circuit, first it appeared that the current was flowing against a diode, when he searched he found current flowing to ground(electrons out of ground).I don't remember exactly which thread, it was a couple of months ago.

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Chris posted this 17 September 2018

Jagau and Vidura are Correct!

There is no complication to this! The principle is universal, the Time Rate of Change of the Magnetic Field, which is analogous to Current:

 

V = L di / dt

 

Voltage ( V ) is the product of the Inductance ( L ) multiplied by the Time Rate of Change ( dt ) of the change in Current ( dI ):

 

Where does the Excess of Current come from, Electromagnetic Induction! We see the exact same principles in Circuit Theory:

 

 

Parasitic Inductance, something Engineers have struggled with for ever. They try the best they can to eliminate it, Truth is, its always there, they can only ever reduce it! Its the Time Rate of Change of the Magnetic Field, Electromagnetic Induction inducing Voltages on Traces that are close and as a result stray signals interfere with Circuits, an unwanted situation, thus the term Parasitic!

I see Confusion, and posts that are over complicating simple straightforward fundamental Science! Please, ignore complication, a simple answer exists for all things!

 

Vidura and Jagau are correct, we have a simple explainable and provable answer, there is no need to make simple things complicated!

   Chris

Vidura posted this 17 September 2018

Prometheus, The principle how the mr. Preva experiment works "normally" is straightforward, the current flowing in the direction of the coil with less impedance, and the opposed magnetic field makes the current in the other coil flowing backwards, I did understand that you could reverse the direction, which would be certainly a very odd behaviour.With the other direction I mean the lamp on the coil with more impedance would light brighter.

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Jagau posted this 17 September 2018

If you re-read the beginning of this thread, you will understand how the MrPrevna experience works, which is the reality, please Moise that I respect should not be mingled with our discussion.

 

Jagau

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Prometheus posted this 17 September 2018

Ahaha! Here's a pretty good explanation:

We provide the "wind", the transformer is the "lake", the standing waves are the two current directions, but we're pushing the 'waves' high enough that they overflow the 'banks' of the 'lake'.

It's a rough analogy, but it helps to understand what's happening. I wonder if you had a center tap on each coil with a diode, connected to ground such that you could pull electrons in from ground? You'd have to drive it pretty hard to get the node of the standing waves below 0 volts such that electrons are pulled in from ground, but it could be done.

If it works, I propose we call it the "Moses" transformer (think of Moses parting the Red Sea).

Vidura posted this 16 September 2018

Hi Prometheus,

Good to see new members joining to the forum ,participating and experimenting! I have also done some tests with the mr.preva experiment and similar circuits with diodes and found that the interaction between the coils and the timing can be changed by varying the parameters, although i have not found the explication yet.

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Marathonman posted this 15 September 2018

Could there be some forward biasing involved like that of a mag amp,  more so at certain frequencies.?

Regards,

Marathonman

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Prometheus posted this 15 September 2018

A couple of thoughts about this experiment:

AC appears to work better than DC.

Square-wave AC works best in my testing. The effect is highly dependent upon the ratio of turns in the transformer vs. the frequency vs. the capacitance. It seems sometimes the magnetic induction overrides the ability of the voltage to push through both coils in the same direction, and sometimes it doesn't, dependent upon the parameters mentioned above.

If you get your capacitance and inductance just right (ie: hit a resonance point), you can get more current flowing through the second winding than flowed through the first (the second light is brighter). I'm unsure why it acts this way. Parametric resonance?

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Marathonman posted this 30 August 2018

I agree. in the 1900 they found out current runs from - to + (JJ Thomson) but were to lazy to change it. i do not believe this as the misinformation was there to confuse your average person or researcher, this was done purposely. i have done my own tests that does prove it is so. while i still disagree on the whole electron thing and it's origin i will concur current does run from negative to positive. Negative is the Pressure, Positive is the non pressure thus will always flow to equalize. without positive non pressure current will no flow. 

Regards,

Marathonman

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