Zero Voltage Start, ZVS, Similar to Bucking Coils

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Idea1man posted this 17 February 2018

Hello everyone. I did not have any electronics education, so I don't exactly belong here. But, I have been spending years reading about the "free" energy devices in the big downloads, such as Robert Nelson's and Patrick Kelly's. So I'm familiar with the field.

The Zero Voltage Start setup seems to be similar to the bucking coils arrangement. If you've seen the videos of a ZVS, you know there's a white flame associated with the spark output. That white flame is evidently Tesla's "burning nitrogen". The electric spark actually does burn nitrogen, in the air, into nitrogen oxides, like wood/carbon burning into CO2. That's something you don't see with our ordinary Tesla coils, or other high voltage sparks. There's somewhat of a caution with it. When Tesla found it, his grew into a large ball.        ...  Bob

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Marathonman posted this 17 February 2018

Mr Bob;

  The spark you are referring to does not just burn nitrogen but oxygen also and creates UV rays that are known to give you a sun burn from the exposure. in the spark it contains all frequencies not just one thus the reason it can burn the skin just like that of a welding machine. since oxygen and nitrogen are below the atomic number 19  they are transmuted to alpha and beta charges consisting of +2 helium charges and -1 electron producing powerful radiation and is probably why Mr Tesla dropped his research in this field.

it can severely burn the retina of the eyes also so take precautions accordingly as blindness and radiation sickness are no fun.

Marathonman

Idea1man posted this 17 February 2018

Thanks for that, Marathonman. I know that nitrogen oxides are listed as bad car pollution products, but that's a lot worse than I thought. I do know about the alpha and beta particles. Tesla used a magnetic field to separate the alpha and beta particles, thus causing an electric current with UV light. Lithium can also be used in the same way by using lepidolite. Also, evidently Moray was doing that using another lithium containing mineral, spodumene.    ..  Bob

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Marathonman posted this 17 February 2018

I know this is off subject buy Morey was and unbelievable Metallurgist and made metals with melting points over 10,000 degrees yet aloud to be pounded into the ground of obscurity.

His insights were beyond EVERYONE.

Totally sick if you ask me.

Marathonman

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Idea1man posted this 15 August 2018

There are many nitrogen-oxygen compounds. Nitric oxide is a colorless, flammable gas with a slight odor. Nitrogen dioxide is a deep red-orange, to brown, gas that is poisonous but not flammable. Evidently the white flame, with a ZVS spark, may be nitric oxide, NO, that looks white in the same way that colorless water looks white in clouds, because it's a vapor. In the video, you can see that the white material is flammable. There is a normal yellow color flame at the top of the white color.

 

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Marathonman posted this 4 weeks ago

If you can boost that system posted you can build a Tesla device and use electromagnets to separate the charge. the pic posted in Kellys book is totally wrong. the pic below is the corrected.

did you notice i turned the collectors 90 degrees as Kelly the boob has them wrong and NOT one person caught it.

Kelly's Pic (Wrong)

My correction (Right)

NOW their is separation before NO !

Regards,

Marathonman

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Idea1man posted this 4 weeks ago

MM   ...  I too have noticed that the 90* right hand rule is very tricky, and that Kelly's info, from Lyne, may be wrong. There are two possibilities for the 90* direction. I'm working with finding the correct direction. I hope to have a prototype. I've already found that magnets on a lead-acid battery make a profound effect.

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Marathonman posted this 4 weeks ago

There is no other direction. the way i have it causes charge separation to the two collector plates the way Kelly has it there is no way in hell you get charge separation by splitting both plates. it is one plate or nothing. sharing each plate with both fields give you NOTHING plain and simple. Kelly has it wrong.

one end is south behind the blue plate and the north behind the red plate, it's that simple.

Now, whether the device works or not is another question that can not be answered but with a small build and research.

Regards,

Marathonman

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Vasile posted this 3 weeks ago

 I've already found that magnets on a lead-acid battery make a profound effect.

1)What kind of effect?

2)How are the magnets positioned in relation to the battery?

 

Thank you.

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Idea1man posted this 3 weeks ago

Vasile   ...  I put magnets on a small cell 6 volt. It brought the voltage to near zero, so charging it would be rapid. Reversing the magnets would increase the rate of current flow on the output. I'm trying to remember which side I put the magnets. I tried different ways. Hempel, a German, has the Patent Application about it. I, at first, thought his magnet direction was wrong. I would need to try it again to get the right direction. He aligns the magnets side to side, perpendicular to the battery plates. I tried it at right angles to the plates, top to bottom. It's for rapid charging, but you could use electromagnets to aid both charging and discharge, changing the direction of the field.  

US 20100159293 Application   http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20100159293.pdf

DEVICE FOR PRODUCING ELECTRICAL ENERGY AND A CHARGING CURRENT SIGNAL, AND A DEVICE FOR PRODUCING ELECTRICAL ENERGY CHARGED BY THE CHARGING CURRENT SIGNAL

 

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Hopeful1 posted this 3 weeks ago

hello idea1man

are you sure of that patent number? i did a search and couldn't find it

Thanks,

Tony

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Idea1man posted this 3 weeks ago

Tony   ..  You leave out the slash and A1. It's a Patent Application. Guess it worked too well. Here's a link. I'll change the above to a link.   Bob

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20100159293.pdf

Idea1man posted this 3 weeks ago

MM   ..  I don't understand your wording, "splitting plates", in your design for burning nitrogen. Could you explain that. And are you talking about using iron for the plates, which would turn them into magnets? 

Hopeful1 posted this 3 weeks ago

thanks Bob.

Marathonman posted this 3 weeks ago

Idea1man;

 If you look at Kelly's pic the magnetic field created by the electromagnets split the plates, meaning one half of the plate is North and the other half of the plates is south. this will not cause charge separation in any way shape or form. now look at my corrected pic, now one plat is North and the other is south causing charge separation.

the plates are copper collectors not iron with the electromagnets behind them one North one South. any electric discharge in air will burn oxygen and nitrogen.  why do you think the air has a certain smell to it after an electric storm. when i was a kid in high school i was hiking with my best friend when lightning hit a tree 150' from us. i know that smell only to well.

Regards,

Marathonman

Idea1man posted this 3 weeks ago

MM  ..  That's what I thought you meant by splitting. I do have a note, without the source, that states that ions move in straight lines with the direction of a magnetic field, but I need to verify that as everyone says they move at right angles. Maybe this will illustrate what happens to ions in the blood stream, used by doctors.

Marathonman posted this 3 weeks ago

Since the electromagnets are separate they can easily be changed to accommodate the correct orientation. a simple test will verify the correct orientation. one will not put out anything the other will. but i also think if that is the case as what you say neither will work and the device is bunk.

Regards,

Marathonman

Idea1man posted this 2 weeks ago

Here's another white flame, burning nitrogen video, with lower voltage. Two 2.1 KV microwave transformers in series.

 

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