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Vidura posted this 30 October 2020

Hello Friends!

This Thread will be dedicated to the BTG devices like the ones shown by Ruslan and Akula. The Goal is to gain knowledge about the involved principals, and hopefully to achieve a working, self-feeding machine. Regarding the tier2 category , I want you to know that I was really tented to post for general public, and certainly the thread will be moved in the replications category when the time is right. But I also know that various persons got in serious troubles , and likely a young man lost his live, because this is the kind of devices produced in series would sensibly cut in the profits of the big energy companies.

  We will in a first step go in diakoptik manner thru the different parts of the device and make different kinds of experiments and tests to get basic understanding of how this devices are working, and the interaction of the different parts. Also we will collect information from various sources from the original Builders. I would encourage those of you , who are interested in following or participating in this project, to read the thread about electron-acceleration , as this describes one of the physical principals involved in this device. In the following Post I will show you the first part, the push-pull converter and it's function.

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Vidura posted this 30 October 2020

 

The First Part of the device we will cover is the push-pull converter. It's function is pumping charges, an analogy would be the electron-gun in the CRT, it is the source of charges. There is no magic in this part, it is just common EM tecnology, there are different topologies which could be used, half or fullbridge would be suitable. For low frequency devices like the Kapagen also an of the shelf  silicone steel transformer could be used. It is important that the output is AC. In the research we will stick to the push-pull topology for the ease of switching the two low side IGBT's. Here some images of teswting this stage:

Open circuit 6.1 Vpp

and loaded

more to come soon...

Vidura posted this 31 October 2020

Now we will look at the next part of the Device, which is directly coupled to the push pull converter: the resonant tank circuit. In the following schematics you can see this part highlighted in orange, where Ruslan and Akula use almost the same approach. Note that Ruslan stated more than once in his posts on the Russian forum that he do not draw schematics, he "has it in his head", only he made some sketches and notes by hand, so we cannot be sure if the published schematics are accurate and who has made them. The version from Dally(third image) is slightly different:

 

The purpose of this tank circuit is to setup an oscillation of reactive power with a strong magnetic field. The frequency of this circuit also determines the output frequency of the device. Below you can see a short video with an experiment showing such a setup:

 

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Jagau posted this 31 October 2020

Hi Vidura
Incredible connection on your scematic with Nmos with the drain to the ground.


I had never seen this before.

I knew about high side with pmos and low side with n mos

but never seen it, it is new for me?

Jagau

Vidura posted this 31 October 2020

Hey Jagau, I didn't see the detail, you're a good observer. Actually this would not work, there should be two low side n channel switches for the push-pull converter. As I said we don't known who drew the Ruslan schematic, but the MOSFETs are wrong connected ☺️

Jagau posted this 01 November 2020

Hey Vidura, my friend


We're all here to help each other, at least that's what I think.
As you said those who invented things rarely say exactly how they did it and never give exact diagrams of their success. On the other hand they give us an idea of what it could produce without telling us everything.

Have analyzed your diagram a little more and the idea is very good. I will follow with interest.


thanks for sharing.


Jagau

Chris posted this 01 November 2020

Hey Jagau,

We're all here to help each other, at least that's what I think.

 

I agree My Friend! If we are not, then what's the point? We have no real purpose, like the other forums, we are different, we are here to help each other!

@Vidura, nice work! Cant wait to see your progress, so far, very impressive!

Don't forget, the LCR Resonant Frequency, in the Push Pull Circuit, must be the Partnered Output Coils Resonance Frequency, seen in this video:

 

We recently covered this Here and in several posts afterwards. I hope this helps! I have uploaded many videos to: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL1OwFdMRjzSlWT7YxFjmew/videos to help others.

Best wishes,

   Chris

Vidura posted this 02 November 2020

Thank you for your interest, and your kind comments. I'm very confident that we will make this machine work. As the intention is tu use diakoptics, lets first look at the different parts, or sections of the device and look for the function of each of them. Always doing experiments and tests, so we can find the various involved principals. Then finally we look at the way the different parts are interacting together, in order to design an convenient logic and timing network. The next part we will study is the high voltage pulse generator. There are different options for this, as the pulsed tesla transformer, the Katcher circuit or a high voltage nanosecond puls generator. I have read thru the comments from Ruslan on the Russian forum(2014 I think). He stated repeatedly that he gave preference to the pulsed tesla transformer, but also the Katcher circuit worked well, although having a deteriorating effect on the metals of the earth ground. He did not recommend the nanopulser, as the hardest to get work and not so reliable.

I have done many tests already with the Katcher circuit, and found some interesting things already. Still i didn't make video recordings from this part(it turns out pain sticking with a phone lacking of memory, not more than 3-5 min. available. anyway some might appreciate the short videoswink). But I will repeat some of the important experiments and record them as I have time. I was quite surprised when i read the document from mr. Brovin about the Katcher effect. It is very different from a normal feedback(blocking) oscillator. You can have a look at this (machine)translated document attached below:

PD: I have attached also the original text in Russian, as the direct translation to some language will be more accurate.

Vidura

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Atti posted this 03 November 2020

The purpose of this tank circuit is to setup an oscillation of reactive power with a strong magnetic field. 

 

Hi.

The machine has several critical points? If I understand correctly, would that be one of the keys to the layout? So let’s place an oscillation process in a strong reactive magnetic field? Because if so, as an investigation, I will try to do a few things with this simple circuit. As you can see, reactive energy is a multiple of what is invested. This is just an orientation.

Maybe a relevant case. Strong reactive energy can in some cases recharge the grid. But only if there is a load. However, the load must not affect the reactant resonance.
But this example should not deceive anyone.

You don’t have to pay attention to the speech in the video.

Atti.

 

Vidura posted this 04 November 2020

One more thing should be remarked before we focus on the HV pulses. This is the earth ground. When I started with this project, the first step was to install a dedicated grounding. It consists in a spiral of 16mm copper tube, 5 meters long, which I buried in a moist place next to a drainage. It is connected to a 10meters length of 25mm2 copper wire which leads to the bench of my lab. Some quotes from Ruslans posts: ""So many ask me about all kind of things, without understanding what this is all about, why nobody asked about the ground? It is important, sometimes the device works in one place, and only a short distance away all changes, the frequency's and it failed to work. First I used the heating system as ground, when I tried in the office it failed due to the plastic piping. Then I installed a separate line down to the garden, otherwise all the building will be filled with radiation. The length is also important, it should be 5meter at least, better more."" And ""The Tesla transformer have to be connected to the ground, also the inductor (resonant tank circuit), this is mandatory."" I will upload a video from testing the kacher coil, where you can see the importance of the ground connection. Regards Vidura

Vidura posted this 04 November 2020

Testing the Kacher coil circuit:

Vidura posted this 08 November 2020

We will continue with the research:

In this post we will look at a feature of the BTG device, which is related to the HV signal generator. As we know from comments made by Ruslan, the pulses are only applied in certain time intervals. Quote: "We use Tesla only one half of the period, otherwise it will take away what it gives" . We also know from other research that in order to have any gain from an oscillatory circuit, me must interact only in defined parts of the period. This leads us to the next part of the device, the Amplitude modulation. It works much similar as an AM mid-wave transmitter. In our case the TC is switched Off periodically, in synchronisation with the resonant tank circuit. There exists different technical solutions to achieve the modulation. In the case of the Kacher-circuit of my experimental setup I have connected a MOSFET, which shorts the base of the oscillators transistor to ground when active. Akula use in the above shown schematic a very elaborated circuitry, which shuts down simultaneously the supply voltage of the Kacher-circuit, while grounding the base of the transistor. I made several tests with different methods, but for the instance I could not see any difference in the response of the modulation. Therefore I returned to the most simple approach of connecting the base to ground.

In the following video you can watch the modulation of the HV signal, you will see some known wave patterns:

Vidura.

Jagau posted this 09 November 2020

This is great Vidura


It works much similar as an AM mid-wave transmitter.

Yes I think the same as you
Very nice presentation thank you

P.S. I like the little man with the big belly
Jagau

 

Vidura posted this 11 November 2020

Hey Cd, thanks for the comments. The coil for the transmitter is basically a Tesla coil, in this case driven by a Kacher circuit. The advantage is that it provides a powerful E-field with a small amount of power consumption. The part with the opposed windings is in the output coil, the recieving antenna. This will be the subject of our next series of tests. Regarding the BTG, I honestly don't known what it stands for, it was coined from the Russian developer's I think. Best wishes, Vidura.

Vidura posted this 11 November 2020

Hi, Here a short additional information, covering the link between the Tesla coil and the output coil assembly.

Vidura posted this 12 November 2020

The next step will be assembling the main parts. I have wound a grenade coil with all the remainders of wire I had available, following the recommendations of Ruslan and others for the winding direction. 2 layers of 48 CW and the following 2 layers 24  CCW and 2 more 12 CCW. It is Likely that this coil still wont match the impedance for a tuned antenna, but I will give it a try, if the amplification effect will be present.  

Here I did a test of the HV coil with the complete coil-setup, It could be noted that with each added component the frequency of the TC drops further, it has now settled at 590kHz. In the next image you can see the transmission to the grenade coil:

 

The next step will be the connection of the Push-Pull converter and the resonant tank circuit.

Vidura posted this 14 November 2020

Here's the video looking for the amplifying effect. As I have already guessed, there is an antenna mismatch between the two coil assembly, but the major issue is the too slow response of the TC to the modulation. It works out well up to 2-3khz , but this is too low for a good coupling between the coreless inductor and the grenade coil. Also the timing needs to be corrected.

So next I will work out another HV source with faster response, and then wind another grenade coil, with measured wire length, and repeat with a better tuned setup. Vidura.

Vidura posted this 15 November 2020

Thinking about the manner how to proceed, I found it might be better to do it the other way around, in first place I will work on the correct antenna mach. Taking in account several posts from Ruslan, this should be done by the relationship of the wirelengths.

Intuition told me that it could work with the Kacher circuit, if the energy transfer of the antenna system is working correctly, we should see a much more dampened wave, and thus the response time would be reduced, allowing higher frequencies of modulation. Unlike a radio transmission over great distance, in this device we deal with a nearfield transmission, with a tight E-field coupling. So the receiver, and it’s impedance will have an direct influence on the behaviour of the transmitter. I will soon make some drawings of my hypothesis, how the antennas could be calculated.

Vidura.

Chris posted this 15 November 2020

Hello Vidura,

You are very advanced and I do not wish to interfere in your project! However, in light of your last post, if I may, offer some advice?

This link Here may help toward the work?

 

I would find the Grenade Coil Resonance, which will be a multiple of its length.

The first rule: Wind the coil 40 meters. 2. Find out its resonant frequency (1/4 wave) Inductor 1/4 = 10 meters of the same wire (for example, 2.5mm) Connect the generator to a 10 meter coil, drive the rectangles at a frequency of 1 MHz and crawl higher until 40 meters do not appear sinusoid. The maximum amplitude. The generator is desirable to take a normal, laboratory! With output adjustment from 0 to 20 volts. We achieve maximum amplitude and move tenths of a kilohertz until it starts to dance.

 

The Push Pull needs to be a factor of the Harmonic, 11th harmonic, then the Voltage needs to be 11x the fundamental. 

Suppose your frequency is 1.821MHz.

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On the Inductor we feed the signal of rectangles with a frequency of 1/50. Consider: 1820: 50 = 36.4 kHz pumping a rectangle through the junction (Pot) with 23-29 turns of wire 2.5 squares. I repeat, you need to make the voltage on this harmonic not 10-20 volts, but higher by an order of magnitude. Approximately up to 50-60 volts and get the same dancing effect at the output.

 

At this stage, you should have approximately 2x the Input. I would then work on the Peak finding and triggering HV Spike:

 

Of course, either using the Kacher or another Circuit similar. Nano Pulser or similar. This must be to increase the Voltage and we have seen this on the scope shots kindly shared by Ruslan already.

Your Output will increase dramatically, if the Voltage Increases, as I = V / R, as you know Ohms Law.

This is great work! Very good! Very Impressive! I believe success is only steps away! Thank You for Sharing!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Vidura posted this 15 November 2020

Thanks Chris, Your comment is very helpful, indeed I missed the part of the harmonic of the grenade coil, the "dancing effect" has to be there also without the HV signal. I will try to get a bobbin of wire for a new grenade coil. What I am in doubt is the 1/4 length relationship, regarding antenna theory an odd harmonic(1/3) would have a mutual amplifying effect. Hopefully we can get bench results soon. Vidura

Vidura posted this 17 November 2020

Now I think to understand why the ¼ wirelength in the inductor, but first I will share the fundamentals of the hypothesis in general, so you can understand.

As we all here know certainly, to have real power from the output of any AU device we need to have current and potential, with a reasonable phase coincidence. In this particular case the current is provided from a conventional stepdown stage, and then transferred to a resonant tank, where a considerable reactive power is stored. Nothing magics for the moment, well known technology. And if we consider now the transfer to the output coil (grenade), say with a load connected, all we would achieve is depleting the stored resonant energy, and loading the source transformer. Also, as our experiences with (partially) cancelling coils have shown, it would be likely, that the voltage at the output would be too low to power a load properly. We have to bring up the potential to get kilowatts out of the device. Now this is done in the BTG with a unique and very smart method. To understand how this is done, we have to dive a bit deeper in antenna theory. I will publish this part also in a general accessible thread, so others can benefit.

 So, let’s talk about antennas and coils. Teslacoils will be used as example, because they are excellent E-field antennas.

Most of all antennas used in broadcasting, and Rf transmission are E-field antennas in contrast to the B-field antenna or magnetic loop antenna. The principal layout difference is that E-field antennas have at least one open ended conductor or rod (but not always....) The B-field antennas always are built as a closed loop, because current flow is needed for transmitting or receiving the magnetic field of a signal. In some cases, a high permeability ferrite rod is placed inside the magnetic loop, in order to concentrate the weak magnetic field of the RF signal. This is the case for example in the long wave or mid wave range radio receivers.

In the image below you can see a drawing of a Marconi antenna, which is a typical quarter wave E-field antenna:

The graphs showing approximate distribution of current and voltage. At the top section of the rod the voltage is at maximum when in resonance. The current is at maximum at the feeding point on the bottom and at the ground connection of the feeding wire. If we would replace the strait rod with ʎ/4 length by a solenoid with the same length, which sometimes is done because the extended rod could be very large in lower frequency ranges, then we still would have a functional antenna with the same resonant frequency. Although the performance would decrease some compared with the extended version. Despite that this kind of antennas can have a significant current flow on the feeding point, the produced magnetic field is negligible, due to the small inductance, and the cube of distance law applying for magnetic fields. They are transmitting and receiving by resonant coupling thru the E-field.

In the next image you can see a schematic of a typical grounded quarter wave Teslacoil, which is much the same, except that the feeding is done by transformer coupling and a primary coil. By the way some radio transmitters use similar technique.

Now imagine what would happen if we remove the ground connection from this teslacoil. The pattern of the E-field would change completely, and provided that the same L2 wirelength remains, the resonant frequency will double. Or we can use an L2 of twice the length, maintaining the same resonant frequency. But now we have a half-wave TC.

And an antenna corresponding to this wave pattern would look like this:

So, a half-wave TC can not be grounded? It can, of course. We could add to this very same layout a centre-tap to L2 and connect it to ground without changing the field pattern.

Or we can connect the two open ends to ground, which would invert the pattern of the E-field, like illustrated in the next image.

This is by the way an example of a closed loop E-field antenna. If needed an aerial could be connected to a centre-tap, where the maximum of the E-field appears.

will continue soon

Vidura

Vidura posted this 17 November 2020

Please note that the following explanations are hypothetical, this needs to be confirmed or discarded by experiments:

Now we will consider this wave patterns for the BTG device. If we would take the previous circuit, and place a load between one end of L2 and the ground, and replace the primary with the aerial from a ʎ/4 teslacoil, the new circuit would look like this:

Now let’s consider how the grenade coil would fit into this circuit, and the corresponding field patterns. We know that one half of it is wound as common inductive coil, and the other half (approximately) consists of windings which cancel their B-fields mutually. This makes the coil asymmetric in inductance, and thus also impedance Z, like shown in the next image:

But as the E-field for itself can’t produce useful work, no current is still flowing, so we have to implement our current pumping circuit. If we induce in this circuit an alternated current, and apply the HV pulses just in the moment when the charges begin to flow upwards in our coil, then the E-field in the middle of the coil would reach it’s maximum. In this section of the coil we would have a potential of a few kV’s, and the charges would be accelerated towards the ground. As there are two paths, one with high impedance(Z2), and the other in the flowing direction of the charges with low impedance(Z1), so it would be straightforward, that the charges would experience an acceleration thru the path Z1.

Now it also becomes clear, why Ruslan recomends an even 4th harmonic  resonance frequency for the current pumping inductor. If we want energy to be transmitted we would use the fundamental frequency in direct resonance, or an odd harmonic which would couple to the transmitter. But do we want the E-field to be transmitted to the resonant tank circuit? No, because we need the potential energy from the TC in the outputcoil, not in the tank circuit. This is the reason for the 4th harmonic, also the 2nd would be ok, as there is no cupling to the fundamental frequency.

To verify if this hypothesis maches with the physical device, or if it is only a a nice idea, a lot of experiments needs to be performed...

Vidura

Vidura posted this 27 November 2020

Hello friends,

An update, according the hypothesis presented in the last post I have built a new output coil respecting the antenna theory of the last schematic. To achieve a reasonable working frequency, I also wound a new HV coil with a shorter wirelength. To compensate the lower output voltage, I increased the input to the kacher circuit to 24 volts.

 The teslacoil ʎ/4 length is 34.7 meters. As the output coil is ʎ/2 it should have a length of 69.4 meters.  At the moment I don’t have much pvc insulated wire available, so I choose a 3rd harmonic frequency resulting in 23.15 meters. The coil is wound different than the former one, for testing the hypothesis of the asymmetric inductance. One half length is wound inductive, and the other half bifilar cancelling. The inductor has a length of 5.75 mtr (4th harmonic of the output coil) for smallest E-field coupling.

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The inductor, white wire left, is wound over the inductive wound half, and the antenna from the teslacoil over the cancelling half. With this setup I could for first time see the amplification effect of the HV signal. Here a video recording:

Will continue looking for improvement of the effect. 

Vidura

Jagau posted this 11 December 2020

hi Vidura
V. Utkin on page 57 gives a trick to charge the capacitor in a BTG to a very high value and the system does not see it (blind).

 

From Utkin

The charging system is screened, or "blinded", to use the terminology of Mr. Tesla, so that it cannot “see” the
presence of the charge in the capacitor.

To accomplish this, one end of a capacitor is connected to the ground and the other end is connected to the high energy coil, the second end of which is free. After connecting to this higher energy level from the energizing coil, electrons from the ground can charge a capacitor to a very high level.

Maybe it can help you.

Jagau

Vidura posted this 12 December 2020

Hey Jagau,

Thanks for the input, Utkin has a good insight in this technology, I have read his work. Also Ruslan has posted in the forum, that the modulated output has to be dumped into a capacitor. Lately my time is restricted to continue research, but I will recall that in the latest experiment with the 3rd harmonic antenna length the kachercircuit is transmitting the power to the output coil, also without the resonant tank the lamp gets lit. I have planed to do some more basic research on the TC setup, need to verify some things. as the magnetic wire is much cheaper than the PVC insulated wire, I will use this for the instance. Also I started to build a winding machine from scratch, si the tedious work for long windings will be easier, and more accurate. Hopefully I will have time soon to continue. Vidura.

Vidura posted this 06 January 2021

Hello Friends,

Another piece in the puzzle:

 

 

 

Pay attention to the phase shift between the E-field and the output (resistive load-real power):

Vidura

Vidura posted this 07 January 2021

Hi,

a couple of additional tests...

Vidura

Jagau posted this 07 January 2021

Well done Vidura
We can see that the ground is important in this type of project.
A well-grounded antenna makes all the difference, the quarter-wave ground plane is even more obvious,

For having done a lot of experimentation with the quarter wave in radio communication, these are effective but with low power antennas, in order to have maximum power, the 5/8 offers more interesting power performance in RF transmission material.

thanks for sharing
Jagau

Vidura posted this 07 January 2021

Thank's Jagau

I will do some study about the 5/8 antenna system.

L0stf0x posted this 07 January 2021

Hello Vidura, You are doing great job there! Thank you for sharing your work!

I also have found that copper or aluminum have positive impact. But I still cannot understand completely how and why. All I know, is a way of how to apply it under or above the resonating coil(secondary of tesla coil). Is it working as a capacitor plate? or is working as an antenna? or both? I still cannot say.

I have made an experimental coiling (picture) and I found that has great difference if the tube has an opening.

Also from another experiment I have found that the size of the opening (gap) is not standard. If you play with the gap size and the position of it you will see huge differences. Of course its difficult if not impossible to play with gap with the copper pipe. I used aluminum foil on a 20cm diameter coil and it was easy to change the gap and position of aluminum foil and see the differences.

Also have you tried to put ferrite rod under the black coil? Just saying!

I am getting jealous of your setup! wink I think I will build one BTG too! laughing

Great work!!

Vidura posted this 08 January 2021

Hey Lostfox,

Thanks' for the comment, it would be great if you join the research on this device. If you need some information, schematics or so I'll be happy to post it. 

Regarding the copper tube, I have noted that the TC is somehow different from common transformers, where a shorting would be produced by the closed shape of the tube. In the TC I believe that the coupling is mostly thru the E-field, of capacitive type. Although more research is required. 

I have done some tests with ferrite cores earlier, with a slightly different setup. There are some comments about the kapanadze generator, stating that it uses ferrite cores( the mentioned filters in his patents?). But for the moment I will focus on the coreless version, trying to understand all details.

Vidura

 

L0stf0x posted this 08 January 2021

Thank you Vidura! Great!! One more under-testing setup will not harm after all I have time for it as I am waiting for parts to come for other setups.

I already started!!

But before I make the grenade side, first I would like to make some tests that I have in mind on two identical tesla coils and diamagnetic materials in certain places. I will post results if I see something important. 

Anything that you can tell me about your grenade will be valuable to help me build it correctly.

Thank you very much Vidura!!

 

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Vidura posted this 08 January 2021

Hey Lostfox,

Great that you are in.  Regarding your question of the grenadecoil, I first used the one found in many schematics supposedly used by kapanadze , also Ruslan. It was 2 layers 48t CW the rest CCW 2 x 24T and 2 X 12T.

But the result of the last coil respecting this schematic was much better:

Anyway I need to continue testing, as the magnetic part is still not solved, also I need to test a few more things on the antenna setup.

regarding your coils, for the moment it will be fine to start experimenting, But I found out that the Kacher-Brovin circuit is something very special, it performs very different then the "slayer exiter" or a blocking oscillator. 

I can post the constructive details, but also I want to add some safty guidelines, as the device surprised my with unexpected powerful effects.

Vidura.

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L0stf0x posted this 08 January 2021

Thank you !!!

This kacher you mean? 

Well I love "unexpected powerful effects"  laughing .. Looking forward to your details Vidura!! Thanks again!

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Vidura posted this 08 January 2021

Hello all following. Here I will post some details of my Kacher circuit, but first I want you make aware of some safety and health considerations.

The Kacher coil, when properly built, can be a very powerful device. In some occasions, when I accidentally touched the hot area of the coil-antenna system, I received immediately strong RF burnings on the skin, leaving white burned strains on the smoking fingers. Also metallic objects close to the device can become electrified. Also the radiation of the Intense E-field have caused me headaches after a few minutes next to the running device. According Russian researches a prolonged exposure can lead to micro clusters in the blood, and cause thrombosis. So , If you decide to experiment with this device, you do it on your own risk, and should consider the recommendations to avoid burnings, and limit the time of the experiments to a few minutes, maintaining distance if at all possible. Take specially care if you rise the voltage and power rates,  when using power transistors to drive the coil.

After having stated this , let's come to the details:

The basic Kacher-Brovin circuit for the E-field generation is as the one posted by  Lostfox:

The traces highlighted in red have to be as short and thick as possible, the capacitors mounted close to the switch and primary. The earth ground connection close to the emitter of the transistor. The Primary coil should be wound with thick wire >6mm2, and a loose coupling to the secondary. Normally a few turns is sufficient. The transistor should be High frequency, with a good Amp. Rating and low hfe factor. From what I  had at hands, the 13007 worked best. For higher power ratings I joined three units in parallel, with a good heatsink.

In my circuit I use a adjustable R2, the base voltage should be adjusted to slightly above 0.5V. In My unit I also mounted a modulation switch, this allows to perform amplitude modulation by tying the base to ground periodically. Below some detailed images from my circuit:

In the three screw connectors the transistor is mounted

Edit: here is the schematic with part values of my circuit:

I hope this helps some, any questions feel free to ask please.

Vidura.

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L0stf0x posted this 08 January 2021

Wow! excellent description!! This is more than complete infos for me to build it!

Thank you so much Vidura! I am on it

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L0stf0x posted this 08 January 2021

 

I found also this circuit here: 

https://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/20745/

Claiming to be the original Kacher Brovin circuit. Looks easy to try it!

 

Wistiti posted this 09 January 2021

Hi freind. Can someone can tell me what is meant by (long distance between L1 and the 2 others "L2 and L3") in the schematic shared by L0stf0x? I mean how does it physically should be?

Thanks in advance!

L0stf0x posted this 09 January 2021

Hello Wistiti !! laughing 

Well very good question! 

I haven't test it yet, Today I ll try it.. Well I guess by "long distance" he means that L1 should exist off course but be uninfluenced by the other two coils. So I plan to close the L1 in a small metallic box, or wrapped in aluminum foil and connected to ground. 

Or just make long wire and keep it away... But we have no details about inductance of it so it should be variable. So maybe few turns 20-30 on a movable ferrite rod that can pass freely under the coil may do the job. After all there is nothing else (component) to alter in this circuit.

I would add also a variable resistor of the smallest value available in series with L1 for more variability.

 

L0stf0x posted this 09 January 2021

Thinking..

All those "Tesla energy converters/amplifiers" made by Kapanadze, Akula, Ruslan, etc 

I wonder what would be the missing key on all those circuits. There are very advanced builders out there that could not miss this key. Probabilities show that the key is not really supported by mainstream physics. After so many failed attempts it is clear that we are looking in the wrong place. And looks that by just trying to clone a successive BTG setup without understand how it works, is like playing in lottery.

I mean there is no magic. What the builders do to replicate it is the obvious. Based on known principles. 

I believe the missing key is the knowledge of scalar waves or tesla waves. They say that those waves penetrate all materials and travel faster than the speed of light. They are energy waves, not radio waves. they don't spread like radio waves, but rather are auto-ultra-directional to the receiver's antenna. They say that the more energy the receiver receives, the less energy the transmitter needs to transmit... So the receiver collect much higher energy than transmitter if you tune it correctly. 

How you tune the receiver to scalar field!!! ?? thinking..

Lets take two identical coils.. Receiver is already tuned to Hertzian waves because coils/antennas are identical. But as you start the test receiver is not tuned to receive the scalar waves!

What I mean...  Look at this photo carefully and you will see that something is not right.

Exactly! the second coil tower is placed at the edge of the wooden plane. Well he missed the correct distance of it ...because the tuning to scalar waves is done by adjusting the distance of transmitter and receiver antennas. He probably had different results before he place the two towers to their base, So he had to move it closer to tune it. I don't think that anyone here believe that this technical asymmetry is not done for a purpose. 

Well on second thought the base of second tower is done wide for this purpose. To final adjust the distance later on. So He probably didn't tried to hide it.

 Now the question is.. Can any coil transmit scalar? What are the factors that influence scalar transmition? Does coils geometry play a role? Why receiving tower do not need antenna in akula's setup (in picture)? Why there is no antenna at all, at other setups? They place the two towers face each other.. is that the best scalar coupling? Hmm maybe they find the best distance before they wind the second tower, or there are two separated tubes and after finding the tuned distance they glue the pipes together. Usually at single tower setups the middle point is covered with tape. 

What you think guys about scalar waves? 

I have some clues but first I need to confirm them in practice.

 

 

 

YoElMiCrO posted this 09 January 2021

Hello everyone.

@All.


If I may, the answer will be found by looking at
Dr. Konstantin Meyl's videos.
That technology is from old Nikola Tesla, I haven't tried
still, but I will when time permits.

YoElMiCrO.

L0stf0x posted this 09 January 2021

This video looks interesting..

and a newer one

Prof. Konstantin Meyl explaining principles..

Vidura posted this 09 January 2021

Great Info Lostfox

I believe that you are on spot , and will watch the entire video from Konstantin Meyl when I have time. 

It is certainly the missing link in this technology.

Regarding the kacher circuit, I think there is more then one, you can read the paper from Mr. Brovin in this post as attached file. There are more applications than the E-field generator, based on the same principal, which is based in the lower potential on the collector of the transistor than at the base, caused by the EMF of self-induction of the primary coil.

Thanks for sharing the videos!

Vidura

 

L0stf0x posted this 09 January 2021

Thank you Vidura, Indeed I have found many versions of it, but all are based on same principle.

But according to Professor the key is not at the driver circuit, is at the coils and to our perspective of what we try to achieve really.

I watched all the last video, and I am surprised how a so old video with so important information passed unnoticed from community. I feel I have to see it again once more because the infos was to many το swallow

Some points from video as I understand them.. Correct me please if I understand wrong!

He says that all coils transmit and receive scalar at the near field. Near field means inside the distance of the first transmitting wavelength. Out of the near field the wave becomes transverse. So distance of antennas is in the game. But he said many tried to replicate his kit without success. So he hide something. And I think he hide the key! If you notice at the video at the points where he discuss overunity, (he show a discomfort to explain) and there are some cuts at this scene. 2-3 cuts at a point where he start explaining about overunity. So the video is edited at the most important point. 

Now I can understand what Tesla dreamed off!! He dreamed a global energy network plan, with ONE transmitter (his) and many receivers/repeaters all over the globe, installed to max receiving points amplifying the existing supplying power without extra power!! because every repeater of this kind receives more energy than the transmitter spends! Because is an open vortex system! He is right humanity needs quantum physics. Quantum physics is the real physics! Is the physics of nature and mother earth! 

Tuning to resonance point of transverse waves has nothing to do with the tuning of scalar waves!?!?.. I am not sure if I got that right. But transverse waves looks to be unwanted and disturbing. 

He express transverse waves like are some kind of artificial waves or problematic waves, and he explain that in a very logical way! 

Scalar wave consist from small tornados (vortexes) in a form of a ball of charged particles pushing one another in the transmitting line. wow! I need to see the video again for sure

But is time to experiment!

YoElMiCrO posted this 09 January 2021

Hello everyone.

@L0stf0x.

Yes, I think you understand a lot about it.
What happens is that no scientist who respects himself
you can talk about AU without first sharing your work and that
be demonstrated by the community, that's why you have to be cautious.
With regard to scalar waves, as in nature everything happens in pairs
it must be shown that there can be scientific asymmetry.
You can interact with H and extract E or vice versa.
With regard to distance, it's not like you say, that's just for TEM.
The scalar waves are different, example they propagate to (Pi/2)c, it is by
this property that cannot be confined.
Things like that, I've been in a theory about matter for over 7 years.
I haven't been able to finish yet.

Thank you for sharing the videos.

YoElMiCrO.

Vidura posted this 10 January 2021

Hi Friends, really very valuable the video documents. I also could understand some details from them, which have not been clear to me before. Soon I will post about it, so we can discuss. Specially the first half of Professor Meyls interview has several practical implications. Vidura

Vidura posted this 10 January 2021

 Friends,

As there is a lot of information , let's go by parts.

Regarding the statement of reproducibility of the experiments, Dr. Meyl referred specifically to the demo- and experimentation kit. What he Saied was that they could reproduce all the effects described by N Tesla with this Kit, and that there was one person who failed to get the result for unknown reasons, so Meyl invited him to come to his research facility to find the problem, but this person insisted to publish first the failure, so Meyl retrieved his invitation. But Mostly the replications have been successful. I found the documentation of his experimental kit, Find it attached below. You will see that it is the same used by the old scientist in his video, the specifications and schematics in the document will help you to understand better the setup in the video.

Another interesting fact is the described  test of an upscaled version with a 400w motor as load, where the transmitter was shielded in a faraday cage in an EMI testing Laboratory. they did not measure anything, No electromagnetic radiation at all, and the motor was running!

The tuning has be definitely different of TEM resonance, lets come back later to this with more detail.

Vidura

 

Attached Files

L0stf0x posted this 10 January 2021

Great find Vidura!! Thank you very much! 

Some extra thoughts..

It looks that there is no wave at all at LMD transmition. Not even a scalar wave. It is not a wave at all!

It is ONE (like solid mater) line of force of energy. The start and end of it are connected, like a solid...That is why is faster than light. This maybe is faster than anything!

TEM = cycles per second

LMD = volts per second

Where we find volts per sec at the circuit?? There is and the LMD power! 

The LMD power should be produced between the transmitter antenna and ground! this is the most important area. There is no other place for such reaction.. Antenna and earth form the asymmetric capacitor..

So LMD "signal" is looking for a receiver to communicate like the thirsty is looking for water. 

So antenna distance is not in play. Maybe distance of antenna from earth is the tuning part. Will see!

 

 

Chris posted this 10 January 2021

My Friends,

Some Research I have collected over the years: Prof. Dr.-Ing. Konstantin Meyl ( 3.3 Gb )

I hope this helps!

Perhaps a new thread for this research? Let me know if you want to?

Best Wishes,

   Chris

L0stf0x posted this 10 January 2021

Wow Chris!! This is absolutely .... well I cannot find words! You are Good man!!

A living Library!! Thank you so much!! cool

L0stf0x posted this 11 January 2021

Ok I just made the overunity test as Prof Konstantin Meyl describe at his papers... with just led's.. (the one of two led's is burned at receiver side)

Indeed the led of transmitter go off and receiver goes on at a certain frequency above the normal resonance one.

Antenna play important roll as you see.. I tested with receiver as far as possible and works perfectly.

I wrapped also the transmitter coil with aluminum foil completely and it still transmits the power to receiver.

This is energy propagation through air .. This propagation can be done with ferrite core as well. I did test it on a recent video... 

but I don't know if the gain is the same or higher without ferrite. 

I will do some tests more with these coils .. 

Vidura posted this 11 January 2021

My Friends,

Some Research I have collected over the years: Prof. Dr.-Ing. Konstantin Meyl ( 3.3 Gb )

I hope this helps!

Perhaps a new thread for this research? Let me know if you want to?

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Hey Chris, still I have not been able to download the files, I will do it overnight, in order to not take al the bandwidth for others sharing the network. Although I believe that this effects are actually an essential part of the BTG, it is ok if you want to start a new thread public accessible, resources maybe. Of course only if there are no copyright issues with the involved editorials. There might be some interest of members in tier1. @Lostfox Have you used the SG directly to drive the transmitter? There are more than one possible harmonics which resonates usually. Meyl recommended to decrease the amplitude if on doubt to find the fundamental scalar resonance. I have to share some more thoughts , and point out some things I believe important. Later I will post from the laptop, so I can add some images. Thanks for sharing! Vidura.

L0stf0x posted this 11 January 2021

Hey Vidura! Thank you! I am waiting for your thoughts!!

Yes it was connected directly to FG.. I did found several harmonic points..  offcourse I did decreased the amplitude for the best energy propagation was 5V max... above that the effect is gone.

The same effect can be done with a simple isolation transformer. If you want I can make a video with it, to see that is totally the same effect. I don't have differential probes, nor measuring non inductive resistors, but others have proved that and after all it is obvious that energy at receiver is more than what the transmitter use. That is probably the way of work of the led circuits of Akula. As for the grenade.. I think I got the idea of how it works.. One side of grenade is used as capacitor, the other side as a transformer. Only testing can prove that, but I think we are close!

I did download Chris files! I haven't finished the big book yet, but I already learned so much! Thank you again Chris!

 

 

Vidura posted this 12 January 2021

Hello Friends.

As promised in continuation I will share some thoughts about the latest posts. In first place Lostfox is right that the effect seen in his video can also been achieved with other transformers connected back to back. Member TamasEduard.com has posted an experiment with two transformers in this tread here

 . He also did an experiment  which seems to be inspired by prof. Meyls  work, similar the one by Lostfox.  We have to be cautious not to fool ourselves with this. The behaviour of the lamps is clearly an impedance phenomenon, there can be AU , but this cannot be granted with this test. What happens is that under certain resonance conditions the impedance of the input seen by the power source drops considerably, and so does the voltage, if the power source is of low power. Meyl was very clear about this in the interview, the measurements of the DC output and the led indicators can give us an approximation , but is in no way a substitute for a HF measurement. He was very cautious with the response to the questions related to AU, and clarified that the scalar wave transmission can be AU under certain environment conditions. The led indicators are very helpful for tuning, and almost certainly the resonant condition which makes decrease the transmitter impedance is a condition to achieve AU. Expressing my thoughts as simple as possible, I would give this description: If the correct conditions are given, it is like  if the receiver attracts the power from the transmitter, extracting the available power from the latter, and this condition makes it possible to absorb additional power from the environment. Possibly in the simple setup of our replication only the power from the supply is depleted, and that is why the old scientist in his experiment employed an impedance correction, to get the right conditions for the energy inflow from the environment, and supress the power drawing from the source. With the measurements made with his high end equipment, it can be confirmed  that AU have been achieved.

As most of us do not own these expensive equipment, we should at least try to measure the input power, preferable DC, voltage and current both. As possibility the input supplied to the signal source for example. If the power consumption is substantially less than the output, then we are certainly on something.

more to come still.

Vidura

 

Vidura posted this 15 January 2021

Hey All,

Here some images from my replication of the scalar transmission experiment:

 

The setup: two identical tesla transformers aprox. 4T primary 500T secondary. Driven by a half bridge powered from power supply via capacitor voltage divider; in order to monitor the input power. The signal is fed from the SG, square wave 50% dty. As load two arrays of antiparallel LEDs are used TX side 30v 9w , RX side 33v 10w. On the scope the voltage o the TX primary is shown, and the other trace the E-field captured by the unconnected scope probe. At the point of resonance(LMD) the TX LEDs are dimely lit, while the RX side gives a quite bright output, despite of the higher foreward  voltage.

As suspected, at resonance the impedance of the circuit drops, and current increases, but there is a second resonant point, where the current goes up further, without the RX LED lit(perhaps the TEM radiation)

 

By approaching the hand on certain places, a kind of finetuning can be achived.

Vidura

L0stf0x posted this 16 January 2021

Well done Vidura! Thanks for sharing!

Few days before, I repeated the test setup, with two isolating transformers. To make sure power is doubled with two receivers. The same effect happen. Power on both receivers is not shared, is doubled. It is very fast and easy experiment to make in few minutes.

If someone want to replicate... Just get any 2 small identical 1:1 ferrite transformers. Usually these transformers are inside switching power supplies. I am sure most of you have them in your circuits boxes. Connect them back to back, connect leds to all 3 places, keep duty to 50% put amplitude to 5V and tune frequency to get RX leds on and TX led off. 

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