My Friends,
I would like to start a slightly off topic Subject for Giggles:
This Subject originally stemmed from Zecharia Sitchin and in the video: "Sumerians and the Anunnaki"
I want to Reference this website: The mayan calendar end date is not 2012, its 2087, 100% proof here.
NOTE: On Dec 21 2012 there was a Galactic Alignment:
The Mayan Calendar uses the following Counts:
1 kin = 1 day
1 uinal = 1 kin x 20 = 20 days
1 tun = 1 kin x 360 = 360 days
1 ka-tun = 1 tun x 20 = 7200 days
1 bak-tun = 1 ka-tun x 20 = 144,000 days
1 pictun = 1 bak-tun x 20 = 2,880,000 days
The Mayans used a Base 20 Number System, thus the use of 20 we see above:
I want to start with the Mythological Date of Creation: 0.0.0.0.0, 4 Awaj 8 Cumk'u.
According to the Mythological Date of Creation, the Gregorian equivalent date is: August 11, 3114 BCE
It is said that the Mayan Civilizations were all abandoned by A.D. 900.
The Solar, Elliptical year is shown here:
A very good article here: Solar Thermal Systems: Components and Applications, explains more. So we have a total of: 365 days, 5 hours, 48 minutes, 45.19 seconds of Orbit time.
The mean tropical year, as of January 1, 2000 was 365.2421897 or 365 days, 5 hours, 48 minutes, 45.19 seconds. This changes slowly; an expression suitable for calculating the length in days for the distant past is 365.2421896698 − 6.15359×10^−6T − 7.29×10^−10T^2 + 2.64×10^−10T^3
Thus a Leap Year is every 4 Years, making 366 days, because every 4 Years, we need to make up a Day: 5 hours, 48 minutes, 45.19 seconds x 4 is roughly: 1 Day. 0.96875 not including the 0.19 Seconds.
So we have several questions, looking at the data:
- Is the Mythological Date of Creation Correct?
- Does the Mayan Calendar really end on Dec 21 2012? Or 2087.
I want to quote the above article:
So given that information, we know that the end of the 12th bak-tun and the start of the 13th, signifies the end of the cycle, the end date. So you when take 144,000 and multiply it by 13, you get, 1,872,000 days.
This is where it gets tricky. As you can see, the mayans used a sexagesimal numerical system. They called one year to be 360 days. Not 365.25 as in our current calendar. So when you take the 1,872,000 days, and you divide it by 360, you get, 5200 years. When you take the same number and you divide it by 365.25, you get 5125 years, which doesn't make any sense because that is no longer a part of the sexagesimal system.
The start date of the Mayan calendar, is supposed to be august 11th, 3113 BC so when you take 5125 years, and go into the future, you come up with the year 2012, right down to dec 21st. However, this is inaccurate because the math has taken two different calculation and combined them. They have taken our current calendar year, and mixed it with the mayans sexagesimal system, how can that be accurate, when the mayan themselves weren't doing the math with 365.25 in mind.
However, when you do the math properly, and divide 360 into 1,872,000, you get a mathmatically sound 5200 years. So when you add the 5200 onto the 3113BC, you get the year, 2087AD.... That is when the end of the calender occurs, if you are using mayan only calculations. Why would we use any other calculations? That just doesn't make any sense. So the mayan calendar is far from over! It won't even end in most of our lifetimes. This is something that our children will see, and hopefully it is the dawn of a new age and not the destruction of the world. I just hope we can make it to 2087 without killing ourselves first.
I agree with this, but the problem I see is: 2087 is the number of: Tun's and not Gregorian Years, we loose 5.2421897 Days for every Tun!
In other words, every 68.67 Tun's, there would be a complete change in Seasons! 68.67 x 5.2421897 Days = 360 Days!
Every 34.335 Tun's Winter would be where Summer is for example!
We need to ask, is the Mythological Date of Creation Correct? What if we have missed the 5.2421897 Days? 0.0.0.0.0, 4 Awaj 8 Cumk'u do we have the Date Correct?
Lets use the Gregorian Date 800AD, when the Mayans were still around, and we go back using the Mayan Calendar, that's a total of: 0.0.0.0.0, 4 Awaj 8 Cumk'u - 9.18.9.6.11, 2 Chuwen 4 Kumk'u = 1428971 kin's
Sound right?
- 9 x Baktun = 9 x 144,000 kin's = 1,296,000
- 18 Katun = 18 x 7200 kin's = 129,600
- 9 x Tun = 9 x 360 kin's = 3,240
- 6 x Uinal = 6 x 20 kin's = 120
- 11 x Kin = 11 x 1 kin = 11
1,296,000 + 129,600 + 3,240 + 120 + 11 = 1,428,971 Right? So, 1,428,971 Mayan Days / Tun (360) = 3,969.363 Tun's, but if we divide by 365.2421897, then we get: 1,428,971 Mayan kin's / Years (365.2421897) = 3,912.393 Years... Really, a Day is a Day and the Hours, Minutes and Seconds are not counted in the Mayan Calendar as far as I know?
- 3,969.363 - 3114 = 855.363
- 3,912.393 - 3114 = 798.393
So the bottom figure: 798.393 is closer! However, this totally depends on How we calculated the Days in the original Calculation from Gregorian Date 800 AD used above! In other words, the Days Counted to this Date from the Mythological Date of Creation!
We could say: (800.0 - ((800.0 / 365.2421897) * 5.2421897)) + (3114.0 - ((3114.0 / 365.2421897) * 5.2421897)) = 3857.8237666282394 Tun's.
- (800.0 - ((800.0 / 365.2421897) * 5.2421897)) = 788.5178879158384
- (3114.0 - ((3114.0 / 365.2421897) * 5.2421897)) = 3069.305878712401
But is this Correct? So, when the Mayans were still around, they had: 3857.8237666282394 Tun's pass by?
Now, we calculated these days based on the Mayan Count, not the Gregorian Count, so for every Tun, or 360 Kin's, we are missing: 5.2421897 Gregorian Days.
Technically, we should not mix the Gregorian Count with the Mayan Count, this is a big BooBoo! We need to separate until such a time as we can convert Days to Kin's and Vice Versa! Assuming the Mayan Kin is the same as our Gregorian Day!
I would love to hear others opinions here! I would like to get to the bottom of this problem and have a concise answer!
Best Wishes,
Chris