To give some encouragement as to what can be achieved I decided to post some test results for one of my devices.
I present here the lower 5 measurements from the data set which are by no means the limit of this device.
The COP in the presented data reaches COP>4 and from the graphs you can draw your own conclusions as to where the COP figure will be when higher input power is used.
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The Device
I will not give a more detailed description than what follows here, I am just showing what reading, understanding and a little brain power can achieve.
This device uses AC output so no diodes are used for the functioning of the coil arrangement, primary and a dual coil secondary. There are multiple cores. No magnets or ground connections.
DC input to a driver is at the front end.
The load is an incandescent bulb directly connected to the secondary output.
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Measurement Protocol
Input DC – Power Supply meters calibrated with precision electronic load ITB511B 500V/10A
Output AC
Voltage measured by oscilloscope RMS calculation
Current measured by precision 50A shunt 75mV full scale (previously calibrated for linearity at 1A, 3A, 5A, 10A, 15A, 20A, 25A, 30A using DC and oscilloscope measurement) and oscilloscope RMS calculation
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Single measurement and calculation example:
Input Power
Output Voltage and Current
Output Cos Phi and Power
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Test Results
Plotting COP vs Input Power gives the following graph
And plotting Input Power vs Output Power gives the following graph
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Load Behaviour
An incandescent load usually has a current to voltage relationship shown below
The incandescent load in the test exhibits the following relationship
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Plotting LogP LogT for Stefan’s Law https://bop-iitk.vlabs.ac.in/exp/stefans-law/theory.html the graph should be a straight line but the data gives this plot:
This shows that Stefan’s law is violated in the load and plotting Apparent Load Resistance reveals the following graph
Which would appear to be the symptomatic cause for the violation.
As to the prime cause of the decrease in resistance I leave that to speculation.
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Nice demonstration Artherholic,
lots of material studied with pleasure. I did not know the law of Stephan it is new for me.
For the last graphic, that demand some study. Is it the non-linearity of the load which is in question or simply the effect of the negative resistance described by Tom Bearden, I don't know but very interesting to study.
thank you for sharing this
Jagau
Excellent work Aetherholic!
180W of output doesn't seem like much, but it's a lot considering the device has a COP>4. It's a good start for sure.
It probably wouldn't be too much work modifying some of the output to feed back into the input so it's a closed loop, or what do you think?
Thank you also for sharing this, it motivates me to keep on going.
ansen
Thank you Jagau.
The incandescent bulb load by itself conforms to Stefan's Law and to the black IV plot I posted earlier. Hence the resistance rises in proportion to temperature according to Stefan's Law.
When powered by the device however it becomes non linear and at a certain point reverses its temperature characteristic and resistance starts to decrease with temperature. At this point the COP becomes exponential and huge amounts of power can be pushed through the load, how much I wont say but it is substantial.
If you look at the Apparent Load Resistance plot the first part is linear, then the beginning of a transition then the negative effect takes over.
If I were to speculate I would say that the load is integrating two opposing current flows creating a third net positive flow with accelerated charge within the load. The same effect that Sweet, Bearden, Smith and Chris have been describing in slightly different ways. The point is that the effect is real and observable and that paying attention to the load is also very important for us. I think that maybe this is the first time that anyone has looked at what is going on within the load.
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Completely in agreement.
I might have an additive theory to yours regarding the third flow,
It seems that there is a common link between all these recent discoveries.
As you know, elements like those we use all have inside their structure currents with the internal movements of electrons that make up ferromagnetic matter.
This third flow may come from a specific place through which these disordered internal currents are released which become ordered.
Melnichenko explained its effect like this. he called them quantum magnetic currents
No one believes him yet he did it.
Jagau
Thank you ansen, motivating others is exactly why I posted this thread so of course you should keep going.
Chris has given everyone here the knowledge to be successful so you are in the right place.
If you look at the power graph, the output reaches over 216W at a COP of 4.3. This is way below the device's capability.
I chose to share these lower power 5 data points as this is the region where the device "Turns on" and starts to manifest several effects, similar to Sweet's VTA which liked to see a minimum load of 25W. In other words, unless you have sufficient current to make the coils work in whatever arrangement you have then you will not get the effects.
Loopback is not a trivial exercise with this type of device and has to be controlled carefully when operating at higher power levels.
Yes it has been done.
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Jagau
I agree.
I believe that the third flow lies between the first and second current sheets. As the first two are moving in opposite directions, the third will have increased spin, undergo compression and hence accelerated velocity. This I believe is the origin of spin for the universe but that's a whole other topic!
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Hello Team,
Fantastic Work Aetherholic! Thank You for Sharing!
I hope you don't mind, I marked the Thread as AboveUnity for the very same purpose, its AboveUnity 😉
This Thread was a delight to see, I am very pleased you were very careful about what you choose to share, not giving away too much! We want others to work for it or they will never understand it, or appreciate it! As you said:
Chris has given everyone here the knowledge to be successful so you are in the right place.
Observing the key bits of information, as you point out:
In other words, unless you have sufficient current to make the coils work in whatever arrangement you have then you will not get the effects.
Magnetic Fields, each containing both Magnetic Field Density, B and Magnetic Field Strength, H, are key to make this work! H works out to become Energy Density E.
We have all the Information here for anyone to Succeed! We are Light Years Ahead!
I am a firm believer, those that wish to succeed will do the study and then do the work! This way, we see others succeed and less Trolling by Lazy Self-Entitled Morons!
This is a very good way to go:
motivating others is exactly why I posted this thread so of course you should keep going.
I have a great respect for the way you have gone about this! Thank You!
Best Wishes,
Chris
Chris,
Thank you and once again thank you for this forum and hyiq.org. Without your efforts we would be lost in the mumbo jumbo jungle where reason and common sense seems to have become an extinct species.
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Its my absolute pleasure Aetherholic! I am really pleased for your success!
Best Wishes,
Chris
Hy aetherholic
When you have time, could you explain to me your method of calculating cos phi?
I have often used this formula to do the math; Cos phi = Vr / Vs
Vs being the (source voltage x source current) and Vr = (total current x total Z)
This gives us a fraction that needs to be converted to a cosine degree, the Cos phi we are searching.
In your demo you use Pi and the frequency, it would help me understand this new method. which seems just as effective
Thanks in advance, no rush
Jagau
Hi aetherholic
No need toexplain i find the answer here,
https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/accircuits/phase-difference.html
Maybe it could help others too
Jagau
Jagau
Here is a much simpler explaination
https://www.electricalclassroom.com/real-reactive-complex-apparent-power/
Very easy to understand
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I was asked by PM if the shunt resistor has any inductance at the frequency being used.
It is absolutely correct to ask this question.
The answer is it is a manganin copper shunt with negligable inductance and an almost flat frequency response up to 40kHz. It is the most accurate way to measure high frequency AC current.
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Hey Guys,
Thanks for posting this Aetherholic:
I was asked by PM if the shunt resistor has any inductance at the frequency being used.
This question is a reasonable question to ask! However, the method of Measuring Current, is Industry Standard Precision Measurement! So Aetherholic's response:
It is absolutely correct to ask this question.
The answer is it is a manganin copper shunt with negligable inductance and an almost flat frequency response up to 40kHz. It is the most accurate way to measure high frequency AC current.
Is a very important response that I would like to add some more information on!
I think it is important to note, all Electrical Components have:
Sometimes, some or all of these values can be very small!
For example, the following manganin copper shunt, which may not be the same as Aetherholics, has very specific very precise Ratings:
These Shunt Resistors are very precisely Rated! As you can see, there is a very narrow margin of Error: 0.1% Normally the value of Inductance is also provided, but not in this case, however, a Resistive Shunt this large, will have a very tiny Inductance.
As we know, the Impedance of an Inductor increases with Frequency: Note Omega ω is the increasing Frequency f:
However, the DC Resistance does not! Normally!
Resistance is not Inductance! However, Resistance R, measured in Ohms Ω, is related to Impedance Z, which is also measured in Ohms Ω. We have been through this before on Captainloz's thread! Care must be taken not to make silly mistakes when making assumptions! Impedance is Inductive Reactance XL, and Capacitive Reactance XC, and Inductive Reactance changes with Frequency:
Assuming this Increase, is just stupidity!
Simple checks can verify what you are Measuring, measuring the Average Output Voltage, or RMS if the Output is Sinusoidal, then one can calculate the Output Current.
For Series Load Resistance:
ResistanceTotal = R1 + R2 + R3 + ... Rn
For Parallel Load Resistances
1 / ResistanceTotal = 1 / R1 + 1 / R2 + 1 / R3 + ... 1 / Rn
These simple Equations verify the Current Measurement! Which we did as part of our due diligence!
It is worth noting, if there is any discrepancy over the Inductive Reactance XL, across the Precision Shunt Resistor, will see the very same Error on the Input to Output anyway! In other words, at the same Frequency, if the Output Shunt resistor has a 2% Margin of Error, then the Input will also have a 2% Margin of Error also!
As the Frequency Increases, the Inductive Reactance Increases, then as a result, via Ohms Law, I = V / R, the Current Measured must come down on both Input and Output Precision Measurement Resistors!
Truth of the matter is, there are some that can not fathom what we are doing! We are truly Light Years Ahead of the Others!
Thank You Aetherholic for bringing this up before Numpty's start jumping to ridiculous conclusions!
Best Wishes,
Chris
measuring current is not the way to go in my opinion. because when the machine works correct, the current situation changes dramatically. you will not be able to do a correct measurement on current because there is no current that you can measure. 😎
you always will have a measureable potential difference. and you always will have a measurable strong E-field which is present when you do experiments with toroidal ferrite cores for example.
i went away from current measuring because of that situation. i did everything to do a correct measurement. i bought lots of high precise shunts and try to do it with differential probes and so on. did not work for me.
actually we measure the REAL output from load - meaning we monitor the temperature and the lux as well as lumen which is emitted from LED. we also measure how long it takes to heat up one liter of water and compare it.
conservation of energy works in 4 dimensions!
regards
Thanks for the feedback Artherholic.
It's math andwe always have to sit down a bit to fully understand what we're doing, everything is back in order now.
I understand the difficulties of Bearn's to take current measurements, but the only fast and efficient and non-intrusive means that I have found is an oscilloscope current probe, of course they are not affordable with exorbitant prices but nowadays there are probes at a reasonable price in the frequencies we work.
You are absolutely right if you talk about measuring massless currents or even potential gradients as described by Tom Bearden, these forms of currents cannot be measured. These are probably the currents you were talking about.
Jagau
Hey Baerndorfer,
In my opinion, observing Currents and applying Magnetic Field Directions for each Coil in the Machine, is an Important step for all learning. 😉
Those learning need to start at the beginning.
Also, the Amplitude of Currents is important work on increasing to get the machine working.
Best Wishes,
Chris
My Friends,
It seems the other Forums have got the shivers, got cold feet, become somewhat terrified about our progress, again! Private Emergency Meetings?
What is the definition of Useless?
Seems we have changed the world, one step at a time and they just cant let change occur, to the tiny limited sliver of control, they thought they had!!! They have nothing and they never did! We have complete Autonomy and complete Control! Aetherholic is one of many aboveunity.com Members that have blown their dumb asses out of the water!
COP > 4.0! 🧐
We are Light Years Ahead!
Best Wishes,
Chris
My Friends,
A BUMP for this thread, its important and people need to start paying attention and doing this forthemselves!
On this video:
I left this message:
PROBLEM: Its always coming, or going to be released, I have ALREADY RELEASED IT: https://www.aboveunity.com/thread/non-inductive-experiment/ WE Have ALREADY done it! Do the work for yourselves and you will have this Technology! I have given you all the answers on how to do this!
It appears YT has Censored my message!
With respect to Dr Greer, I do not agree with his approach and way of thinking! There is far to much talk and no solid structure!
No one should rely on others to do this for you! You NEED to do this for yourselves! It is the only way!
Like learning to Read, you need to learn to build Free Energy Machines!
This video is fantastic:
Left Handed vs Right Handed applications are important!
Best Wishes,
Chris
Hi Aether
Going back to your last image of the power triangle, when we are connected to the electrical network, it does not matter that we produce a lot of reactive energy, they always make us pay for S in the power triangle.
So if we connect with batteries that are charged on the electrical network and we use an inverter connected to the batteries, the network only sees a pure battery charge and we can use as we please a lot of reactive charge recovered without the network seeing it . We have a aboveunity system here.
JAGAU
Hi Jagau
Yes, absolutely correct but its better to have gain in your reactve generation.
One way is to use resonance and, as Don Smith said, extract a portion of the resonant power so you dont destroy the resonance or, with the batteries as a buffer, recover the reactive power back into the battery as per Melnichenko's recovery scheme or similar. And of course there is the third way we already know which is inverter driving a reactive primary and POC real power recovery then dc back into the battery.
The goal is of course to reduce the power drawn from the incoming AC so real power must be returned to the batteries and eventually shut off the charger as the gain builds up.
In my opinion careful consideration is needed when looking at the complete system because at every step you have the ability to change from real to reactive and reactive to real. You can use more than one gain device.
Example:
Incoming AC to charger to battery then COP=2 resonant inverter (reactive) into COP=2 POC to convert to real. For loopback do the reverse back into the battery. So we have COP=7 system (COP=4 on the forward part and COP=4 on the reverse so we only take 1/8th of the output power for loopback)
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Hi,
Spot on, with the too much talk comment......not nearly enough work happening......
Donovan
Donovan
What do you mean by Too much talk comment?
Jagau
"With respect to Dr Greer, I do not agree with his approach and way of thinking! There is far to much talk and no solid structure!"
Ref: Chris's Post Here.
Jagau, think he was replying to the above post.
Question, so everyone has SOMETHING to contribute, for w.e. the reason, your not sharing anything about the device, configuration, etc... Is this the device we are referring to?
Patent No. US9620280B2 - Split flux inductor?
AlteredUnity
The answer to your question is no, its not William Alek's Split Flux Transformer. The SFT uses reactive power at the input. My device uses AC real power from the driver (cos phi = 1). I will add a little to the description in post #2. There are multiple materials and multiple tuned air gaps. One of the materials is from Hitachi.
If I am replicating a device I would say so.
The point of this thread is in Post #1, to show some real results with substantial power output to encourage more experimentation, not to present a device.
I have an SFT style device and yes it will return 100% of the input power reactively back to the source. I did not post a thread for this yet as the output power is too low to be of practical use but as it has some unusual properties I will post the results soon.
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Ok, I didnt mean to come off as rude, I do appreciate the sharing you have provided, even if it's sharing just your experiences with a device replicating and/or making. If its the latter, I completely understand the wait. Every post I learn a little more.
Thank you.
AlteredUnity
You were not rude at all, asking questions is always welcome. Sometimes its difficult to provide more information due to a variety of reasons so I disclose what I can, hopefully enough to read between the lines.
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AlteredUnity
You were not rude at all, asking questions is always welcome. Sometimes its not possible to disclose everything for a variety of reasons but hopefully I give enough information to read between the lines. If I say something that is brief or a bit cryptic then its important.😉
I am using AC for this device so the approach is a little different to the POC with switched DC setup.
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