Non inductive coil experiment replication

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cd_sharp posted this 2 weeks ago

Hey, guys

We all know this experiment is an achievement of great importance. I start to replicate it here:

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cd_sharp posted this 2 weeks ago

The currents are the pink (L2) and yellow(L3) traces. The dark blue trace is the input signal with the probe ground disconnected. That's why it looks so weird.

L2 field decays and causes EM induction in L3. Then L3 decays and causes EM induction in L2.

I'll be back.

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Notice the power supply and switch from Vidura. Fantastic tools! I've never used anything like them.

Chris posted this 2 weeks ago

Hey CD,

You have already seen what we are talking about here.

All you need do is work on the effect, get it to work longer over a greater off time.

You truly need to concentrate on that effect, you had it there, 

   Chris

cd_sharp posted this 2 weeks ago

Hey, man, I understand, asymmetrical regauging on both traces.

Let's see some more results from fiddling:

I have more results coming soon.

Also, notice I'm not using the ATX supply for powering the power switch any more. It introduces a lot of noise on the oscilloscope traces. Plain old batteries are cheap and keep the traces clean.

cd_sharp posted this 2 weeks ago

Hey, guys

Latest results:

Chris posted this 2 weeks ago

Hey CD,

Awesome! Excellent replication! EVERYTHING I see is Good! Little bit of interference, perhaps switching harmonics or something? But wave shape is all good!

Learn as much as you can with this CD. Excellent work!

   Chris

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cd_sharp posted this 2 weeks ago

Hey, man, the interference is because I use the 5v output of my linear power supply for feeding the power module while the main output of the power supply feeds L1. If I use batteries for the power module, the interference drops. I ran out of batteries for the moment. Question: we see current flowing in both POCs during the off time and the diode in series with L2 is getting hot; why is the bulb not at maximum? In fact, I replaced the bulb with a 5/20w, 12v and it lights up very weakly. Next up, we must see what the output voltage is and how we can increase it.

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Chris posted this 2 weeks ago

Hey CD,

the interference is because I use the 5v output of my linear power supply for feeding the power module while the main output of the power supply feeds L1. If I use batteries for the power module, the interference drops. I ran out of batteries for the moment.

 

If I may suggest a few reasonable sized Caps on the output of your Power Supply and a small one, say 5000uf or so and a 100nf or so, it may remove the Noise. Something like this:

It looks to me that the Fet may actually be triggering, turning on, during these harmonics? Possibly? If so, increasing your input.

 

Question: we see current flowing in both POCs during the off time and the diode in series with L2 is getting hot; why is the bulb not at maximum? In fact, I replaced the bulb with a 5/20w, 12v and it lights up very weakly.

 

Yes both POC's must carry a current, and the Currents / Magnetic Fields, must oppose. The Diode is effectively a very low Resistance uni-directional Load. Current can only travel in one way and when it does, the Energy Transformation is converted to Heat as you know.

Both POC's have low to zero Impedance during the On Time.

Not so at Off Time.

Impedance ( Z ) is what gives us a slower decay in Magnetic Fields. This is the Power "Generational" Phase, if you like. Output when no input is on, a disconnected Input from the System.

With too much Impedance, Power is reduced. However, I = V / R, so our Output Current ( I ) is directly proportional to the Output Voltage ( V ) and the Output Resistance ( R ). This you already know, you pointed out here:

 

Next up, we must see what the output voltage is and how we can increase it.

 

The Voltage ( V ) gained during the Input Phase, On Time ( tOn ), linearly decays over Time ( t ), so the average Voltage ( VAverage ), will be approximately: VMAX / 2 over the duration. Roughly.

 

 

So our Maximum Voltage is not the Voltage we see over time, that our Load see's over the duration.

Capacitors on the Output is an option, to smooth the Output over time. Similar to your noise problem above. Realistically, increasing the Voltage Potential, getting the Potential up higher, faster, over a shorter tON period. This gives us a greater Average Output Voltage, and thus an Output Current.

   Chris

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cd_sharp posted this 1 weeks ago

Hey, Chris

I'll try all the things above, thanks.

Here is my latest progress taking you advice into account:

cd_sharp posted this 6 days ago

Hey guys,

The above experiment flattens the output voltage, which may affect the time when the POCs interract. Here is the proof:

Chris posted this 6 days ago

CD Excellent work!

The Input Coil is the Signal Coil, its what brings the Output Coils into Resonance. The Length of the Coil, Wire Gauge, Frequency and Duty Cycle are all important.

If we took 2x Coils, in front of us. These Coils need the same Magnetic Resonance as The Mr Preva Experiment.

We must find the ideal drive method.

A Coil must be selected that can drive the input Frequency and Duty Cycle at the maximum efficiency.

Sometimes reducing the Turns, reducing the Duty Cycle and adjusting Frequency to suit, will be an option for increasing the Output. Finding where the Output Voltage reaches the highest point.

Excellent work my friend!  wink

   Chris

cd_sharp posted this 6 days ago

Hey, man

I'll take each and every advice into consideration.

I'm taking small steps, not to miss something important.

Let's see when is the output voltage raising and what's causing it to increase. I'm using the MATH A-B function of the 'scope:

Captainloz posted this 5 days ago

Hi Guy,

I'm seeing the sawtooth wave but not much light.  I realize this is just the start but wanted to share the video.  

It make me very happy to see the sawtooth wave!  Onward!

Cheers,

Loz

Chris posted this 5 days ago

Excellent work Loz!

Core Cross Sectional Area plays a role, as does the turns on the Output Coils. That's all Electromagnetic induction variables, check out the calculator. As E.M.F or Voltage increases, as does the Current through Ohms law: I = V / R.

You can try to more closely couple your Input with one of the Coils, maybe Output to the light Coil. Then more closely couple the Tertiary Coil and Secondary Coil.

Sort of a case of fiddling to get the best result.

Excellent work!

   Chris

Jagau posted this 5 days ago

Yes nice work captain

thanks for sharing

Jagau

Captainloz posted this 5 days ago

Thanks Chris.  I'll study up on the electromagnetic induction variables and calculator.  And plan out a new set up. Things are coming into focus!  

cd_sharp posted this 5 days ago

Hey, guys

What a surprise, the voltage drop across L2 (dark blue) at the end of the cycle looks like is triggered by nothing. I'm sure that for any voltage drop there has to be a changing magnetic field causing it.

But which one is causing it?

Chris posted this 5 days ago

Hey CD,

The answer lays in the processes: Change in Current Creates a Voltage, a Voltage allows for a Current to Flow.

Time is where we see the delay.

Why do we get 180 degrees between Primary and Secondary? Time, the time it takes for each process to mirror each other.

Which causes the other?

Take the Load off L2, with the light, see if you get the same Sawtooth wave form on L3.

Excellent work my friend!

   Chris

cd_sharp posted this 3 days ago

Hey, man

I'll do it.

For now I'm away, but I found the time to upload these videos. They are about the placement of the primary coil:

 

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cd_sharp posted this 3 days ago

So, I learn something else from this.

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Chris posted this 3 days ago

Good Work CD!

A sentence that really helped me:

The VTA "likes" to always see a minimum load of 25 watts.

Ref: VTA By Walt Rosenthal

 

Remember, a minimum Current ( I ) is required to make this work, its these very interactions that are required. This is the required Interactions that Pump Energy.

   Chris

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cd_sharp posted this 13 hours ago

Hey, guys

As I promised, here is the circuit without a light bulb.

The fact that there is a load that dissipates/transforms energy is a requirement for magnetic resonance.

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Chris posted this 43 minutes ago

Hey CD,

Excellent work!

The fact that there is a load that dissipates/transforms energy is a requirement for magnetic resonance.

 

Excellent observation my friend!

The Currents, therefore the magnetic Fields Interact in such a way, that they, the Magnetic Fields, Pump the Current over time:

 

Fantastic Work my friend!

   Chris

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