Non inductive coil experiment replication

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cd_sharp posted this 06 November 2019

Hey, guys

We all know this experiment is an achievement of great importance. I start to replicate it here:

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

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cd_sharp posted this 06 November 2019

The currents are the pink (L2) and yellow(L3) traces. The dark blue trace is the input signal with the probe ground disconnected. That's why it looks so weird.

L2 field decays and causes EM induction in L3. Then L3 decays and causes EM induction in L2.

I'll be back.

PS

Notice the power supply and switch from Vidura. Fantastic tools! I've never used anything like them.

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Chris posted this 06 November 2019

Hey CD,

You have already seen what we are talking about here.

All you need do is work on the effect, get it to work longer over a greater off time.

You truly need to concentrate on that effect, you had it there, 

   Chris

cd_sharp posted this 08 November 2019

Hey, man, I understand, asymmetrical regauging on both traces.

Let's see some more results from fiddling:

I have more results coming soon.

Also, notice I'm not using the ATX supply for powering the power switch any more. It introduces a lot of noise on the oscilloscope traces. Plain old batteries are cheap and keep the traces clean.

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

cd_sharp posted this 09 November 2019

Hey, guys

Latest results:

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Chris posted this 09 November 2019

Hey CD,

Awesome! Excellent replication! EVERYTHING I see is Good! Little bit of interference, perhaps switching harmonics or something? But wave shape is all good!

Learn as much as you can with this CD. Excellent work!

   Chris

cd_sharp posted this 09 November 2019

Hey, man, the interference is because I use the 5v output of my linear power supply for feeding the power module while the main output of the power supply feeds L1. If I use batteries for the power module, the interference drops. I ran out of batteries for the moment. Question: we see current flowing in both POCs during the off time and the diode in series with L2 is getting hot; why is the bulb not at maximum? In fact, I replaced the bulb with a 5/20w, 12v and it lights up very weakly. Next up, we must see what the output voltage is and how we can increase it.

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Chris posted this 09 November 2019

Hey CD,

the interference is because I use the 5v output of my linear power supply for feeding the power module while the main output of the power supply feeds L1. If I use batteries for the power module, the interference drops. I ran out of batteries for the moment.

 

If I may suggest a few reasonable sized Caps on the output of your Power Supply and a small one, say 5000uf or so and a 100nf or so, it may remove the Noise. Something like this:

It looks to me that the Fet may actually be triggering, turning on, during these harmonics? Possibly? If so, increasing your input.

 

Question: we see current flowing in both POCs during the off time and the diode in series with L2 is getting hot; why is the bulb not at maximum? In fact, I replaced the bulb with a 5/20w, 12v and it lights up very weakly.

 

Yes both POC's must carry a current, and the Currents / Magnetic Fields, must oppose. The Diode is effectively a very low Resistance uni-directional Load. Current can only travel in one way and when it does, the Energy Transformation is converted to Heat as you know.

Both POC's have low to zero Impedance during the On Time.

Not so at Off Time.

Impedance ( Z ) is what gives us a slower decay in Magnetic Fields. This is the Power "Generational" Phase, if you like. Output when no input is on, a disconnected Input from the System.

With too much Impedance, Power is reduced. However, I = V / R, so our Output Current ( I ) is directly proportional to the Output Voltage ( V ) and the Output Resistance ( R ). This you already know, you pointed out here:

 

Next up, we must see what the output voltage is and how we can increase it.

 

The Voltage ( V ) gained during the Input Phase, On Time ( tOn ), linearly decays over Time ( t ), so the average Voltage ( VAverage ), will be approximately: VMAX / 2 over the duration. Roughly.

 

 

So our Maximum Voltage is not the Voltage we see over time, that our Load see's over the duration.

Capacitors on the Output is an option, to smooth the Output over time. Similar to your noise problem above. Realistically, increasing the Voltage Potential, getting the Potential up higher, faster, over a shorter tON period. This gives us a greater Average Output Voltage, and thus an Output Current.

   Chris

cd_sharp posted this 12 November 2019

Hey, Chris

I'll try all the things above, thanks.

Here is my latest progress taking you advice into account:

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

cd_sharp posted this 12 November 2019

Hey guys,

The above experiment flattens the output voltage, which may affect the time when the POCs interract. Here is the proof:

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Chris posted this 12 November 2019

CD Excellent work!

The Input Coil is the Signal Coil, its what brings the Output Coils into Resonance. The Length of the Coil, Wire Gauge, Frequency and Duty Cycle are all important.

If we took 2x Coils, in front of us. These Coils need the same Magnetic Resonance as The Mr Preva Experiment.

We must find the ideal drive method.

A Coil must be selected that can drive the input Frequency and Duty Cycle at the maximum efficiency.

Sometimes reducing the Turns, reducing the Duty Cycle and adjusting Frequency to suit, will be an option for increasing the Output. Finding where the Output Voltage reaches the highest point.

Excellent work my friend!  wink

   Chris

cd_sharp posted this 13 November 2019

Hey, man

I'll take each and every advice into consideration.

I'm taking small steps, not to miss something important.

Let's see when is the output voltage raising and what's causing it to increase. I'm using the MATH A-B function of the 'scope:

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Captainloz posted this 13 November 2019

Hi Guy,

I'm seeing the sawtooth wave but not much light.  I realize this is just the start but wanted to share the video.  

It make me very happy to see the sawtooth wave!  Onward!

Cheers,

Loz

Chris posted this 13 November 2019

Excellent work Loz!

Core Cross Sectional Area plays a role, as does the turns on the Output Coils. That's all Electromagnetic induction variables, check out the calculator. As E.M.F or Voltage increases, as does the Current through Ohms law: I = V / R.

You can try to more closely couple your Input with one of the Coils, maybe Output to the light Coil. Then more closely couple the Tertiary Coil and Secondary Coil.

Sort of a case of fiddling to get the best result.

Excellent work!

   Chris

Jagau posted this 14 November 2019

Yes nice work captain

thanks for sharing

Jagau

Captainloz posted this 14 November 2019

Thanks Chris.  I'll study up on the electromagnetic induction variables and calculator.  And plan out a new set up. Things are coming into focus!  

cd_sharp posted this 14 November 2019

Hey, guys

What a surprise, the voltage drop across L2 (dark blue) at the end of the cycle looks like is triggered by nothing. I'm sure that for any voltage drop there has to be a changing magnetic field causing it.

But which one is causing it?

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Chris posted this 14 November 2019

Hey CD,

The answer lays in the processes: Change in Current Creates a Voltage, a Voltage allows for a Current to Flow.

Time is where we see the delay.

Why do we get 180 degrees between Primary and Secondary? Time, the time it takes for each process to mirror each other.

Which causes the other?

Take the Load off L2, with the light, see if you get the same Sawtooth wave form on L3.

Excellent work my friend!

   Chris

cd_sharp posted this 16 November 2019

Hey, man

I'll do it.

For now I'm away, but I found the time to upload these videos. They are about the placement of the primary coil:

 

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

cd_sharp posted this 16 November 2019

So, I learn something else from this.

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Chris posted this 16 November 2019

Good Work CD!

A sentence that really helped me:

The VTA "likes" to always see a minimum load of 25 watts.

Ref: VTA By Walt Rosenthal

 

Remember, a minimum Current ( I ) is required to make this work, its these very interactions that are required. This is the required Interactions that Pump Energy.

   Chris

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cd_sharp posted this 19 November 2019

Hey, guys

As I promised, here is the circuit without a light bulb.

The fact that there is a load that dissipates/transforms energy is a requirement for magnetic resonance.

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Chris posted this 19 November 2019

Hey CD,

Excellent work!

The fact that there is a load that dissipates/transforms energy is a requirement for magnetic resonance.

 

Excellent observation my friend!

The Currents, therefore the magnetic Fields Interact in such a way, that they, the Magnetic Fields, Pump the Current over time:

 

Fantastic Work my friend!

   Chris

cd_sharp posted this 21 November 2019

Hey, guys

I wish to see if I can get the coils into magnetic resonance and light up a load using a minimal impedance input coil. Let's see the first test:

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

cd_sharp posted this 22 November 2019

Hey, guys

Let's continue the adventure using a 1 turn primary coil:

What is that on POC2 (pink trace):

Is that a negative current, flowing from the catode to the anode of the diode? We've seen this before. Fighter saw it in Romanian ZPM .

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

cd_sharp posted this 23 November 2019

Hey, guys

Here is the latest progress. Some facts add up:

During the on-time we have a ringing between the 2 POCs, much like the MrPreva effect.

That is AC on both traces, although I put DC in it and the diodes should allow only positive values on both the yellow and the pink traces.

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

cd_sharp posted this 25 November 2019

Hey, guys

Let's try to build on the last result. Whenever I see ringing I'm thinking about RLC resonance and from previous dealings with Akula lantern no 4, we know RLC resonance can help the magnetic resonance.

It's hard to see with the camera, but there is a little bit of extra light when touching the lead of the caps. More important, notice the delay on the pink trace (POC2 current).

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Mitza84 posted this 26 November 2019

Hello guys great work C.D. i have bought also two pieces of cores like yours one is amorphous and one nanocristaline i want to test bouth of them .   and i find something very interesting that might be of help for you is about Melnicenko and his effects he have an official youtube channel and you find very valuable information there about this experiment you are trying here    you can translate the page and he have subtitle for his videos but you have to put it in english from setings .  so this is the site i hope it helps :

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEtqI2EhN32Mvq7Wp5G9Vpg/videos

Mitza

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cd_sharp posted this 29 November 2019

Hey, guys

Let's learn something more about this circuit. What happens if I use a big cap to feed the primary coil and try to recharge it from POC2?

No good result, but I'm convinced this is not a waste of time. It's just one more way that does not achieve AU.

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Chris posted this 29 November 2019

CD, Thank You!

Very sensible and you should not consider this a failed result, its merely a matter of thinking about this another way!

Akula Circuit:

 

If C11 is empty, L2 will carry Max Current, because this, the Coil Capacitor combination, appears as a Short Circuit, the Cap is least Impedance. This is called Inrush Current.

After the Cap is Full, the Current can no longer Flow! The Cap is at Max potential!

This means, the Cap must be Emptied at a specific time at every cycle, on time, and ready for the Refilling of the Cap from L2. A case of exquisite timing!

VT1 Dumps the Current of the Cap, C11, into the Coil, L1, at a rate that is Resonant with the Circuit, T = R ⋅ C, thus emptying the Cap, C11.

If the Cap, C11, stays full, then L2 can carry no Current, there is no "Generation" of energy!

 

Yes nice!

A push to connect switch, so the Cap is not connected all the time to the Voltage Source.

The reason, you know already?

Ref: Me, Chris

 

So, all this is just a way of thinking, its not a case of Failure, its a case of gaining a greater understanding, working out whats not working and why.

Excellent work, you're on the Right Track! Well done!

   Chris

cd_sharp posted this 01 December 2019

Hey, man,

I'll give this circuit more attention in a dedicated thread. You are a very good teacher. I can understand that even if my PS delivers maybe 1amp at 12V, this can deliver a much higher current from the cap for a very short time.

Akula starts the lantern by connecting and disconnecting a battery which is equivalent to closing and opening a switch.

Moving back to the basic experiment, in my setup I saw that the input does not go down although it should as POC2 magnetizes (pink trace) the core in the direction L1 needs:

I think that L1 and POC2 are too far apart. What happens if I put L1 over POC2 (video will be up in a few minutes):

There is not enough coupling between L1 and POC1.

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Chris posted this 01 December 2019

Hey CD,

Re:

I think that L1 and POC2 are too far apart...

There is not enough coupling between L1 and POC1.

 

Excellent observations! Yes they are! A better Coupling between the Coils is needed! This will allow for a much greater Output Current and also a Higher Voltage!

Of course, making the Asymmetrical Reguaging waveform's as high in Amplitude as possible, within safe levels is the main objective, remembering this is entirely Magnetic in Nature!

Electrical Energy, which consists of Charge and a Magnetic Field, is "Generated" by Magnetic Field Interactions, and these are the actions necessary!

Remember:

 

Some fiddling is required wink

As always CD, excellent work!

   Chris

cd_sharp posted this 02 December 2019

Hey, man

I hear you.

Let's play a little with the center-tap setup. Can I drive it into magnetic resonance for the entire cycle, like the separate coils setup?

Why is the input not going down, since both POC currents are in the same order of magnitude?

It looks like POC1 current (pink) is flowing during the on-time. I have the feeling that L1 should not stay over POC1. It's aligned with MEG picture above.

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Chris posted this 02 December 2019

Hey CD,

I left a message on your YouTube Video.

It might be worth playing around with the polarity's on the Diodes. Each Coil is producing its own Magnetic Field, and we must get the One Magnetic Field assisting the Input.

This is from Un-Loaded State to Loaded State. When the Machine is Loaded, the Input will go down.

You have the Waveform, but perhaps the Input Coil is not seeing enough Positive MMF and still too much Negative MMF. Its a case of getting One Coil to Assist the Primary.

This Partnered Output Coil Assistance with the Primary will bring down the Input Current.

Its just a case of fiddling, playing around, getting the optimum, adjusting for the best COP.

Good work CD! Thanks for your continued efforts!!!

I have a little gift for you if you would like it? I bought some PCB's recently, a prototype I am working on, would you like one?

 

Its just a bear PCB, you will need to purchase the components and fit. The second image is mine, one I have already completed.

If so, PM me your address and I will send!

@Other Members, I have 2 more PCB's to give away, for those that share their work, I will select the recipients.

   Chris

cd_sharp posted this 03 December 2019

Hey, man, Of course I would. Thanks so much. The PCB looks fantastic. I'll PM my address.

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Jagau posted this 03 December 2019

i am Interested also

sent a PM

Jagau

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cd_sharp posted this 04 December 2019

Hey, guys

I have a question for the more experienced of you.

A long time ago I have disconnected the mains ground from the negative terminal of my DC power supply. I did that to make sure all my experiment devices under test are floating, to avoid a ground loop with my oscilloscope.

I wonder if that can affect the performance of the DUT, generally?

Also, is it any danger to my oscilloscope if I connect it back?

Thank you

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Jagau posted this 04 December 2019

Hi CD


It is a challenge to which everyone is confronted.


As a picture is worth more than to say it I , send you a utube well done on this subject.

How not to blow up his scope?

Jagau

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Vidura posted this 04 December 2019

Hey CD First you should check if there is a internal connection between the negative output and the ground connector on the PS. You can use a continuity tester. If not there will be no effect at all to the DUT or scope. In the case of the scope the ground is generally connected to the earth ground of the power line, so there yes will be an effect to the DUT regarding the connection to earth ground. In general terms there will be no problems to the save operation of the scope, although there might be some more interference and accuracy of precision measuring suffers a bit. I hope this helps. Vidura

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cd_sharp posted this 04 December 2019

Hey, guys

Thanks, I remember that I saw that video back when I bought my oscilloscope.

I did the measurement and there is continuity between the probe(s) ground of the oscilloscope and the ground connector of my DC PS, the green one:

So, I guess I did the right thing to disconnect the green from the black and I should be sticking to it.

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Captainloz posted this 04 December 2019

Hi Guy,

I'm still catching up on this tread. So sorry if some of my issues have already been addressed. 

I've used a larger core this time. And also tried to incorporate wavelength frequency. The L1 is 1/8 length of partnered output coils or 1/4 length of L2 and L3.  I also tried to incorporate a none inductive part of the coil to see if that will get the amperage up.  I think it's obvious that I'm not getting the proper induction between L1 and L2 & L3.  I want to use much higher voltages but I'm keeping myself form going there at this point because I believe it will mask the real problem I'm having.

Hey Vidura,  I screwed up and blew the H-Bridge driver you sent me, that's why I'm using my function generator.  Totally my fault!

Here's the Video of my progress-

Cheers,

Loz

Chris posted this 04 December 2019

Hey Loz,

I left a message on your video:

+1 excellent Loz! Output Voltage comes from the Time Rate of Change between L2 and L3. Yes, make it work from what you have available. More turns on L2 and L3, making sure the Currents Oppose, and also one current must assist L1. Yes Coupling is important - aim for Max Coupling from L1 (Input) and L2 (Light) then maximize your Coupling on L3 to assist L1. I hope this makes sense? If L3 adds 20% to L1 then L2 needs to be 80% efficient to get Unity, Make sense or have I confused?

 

Your'e spot on my friend! Your thinking is absolutely correct!

Turns is very important, between L2 and L3.

Imagine, take the opposite sides of an Electrical "Generator".

The Rotor and the Stator. The Math determines the Output: E.M.F = -N dΦ / dt

Interestingly, there is no dimensionality of area, only Flux. However, we know the Core Size is important, we saw a Factor of 100 increase with a factor of 10 change.

I quote an old friend:

By increasing the area of the Wire Exposed to, or occupying the fluctuating Magnetic Field, Sparky doubled the output. Exact proportions/ratios of Space-Filling Volume of windings to output have not been determined with precision, but a relation is evident.

Ref: Floyd Sweet’s Space Quanta Modulator - Lab Notes

 

Current ( I ) = Voltage ( V ) / Resistance ( R ) - So if we keep Resistance the same and increase Voltage, the Current must increase at a linear rate.

All my Coils, well nearly all of them, they all have lots of turns on a Core that have an area of: 5cm x 2cm = 10 sqcm, some 250, some 180 or there abouts...

In an Electrical "Generator", they make them so big, so they can have such large Cross Sectional Area's:

 

Cross Sectional Area much bigger than the size of a Man!

Its a trade off, Turns vs Core Size! 

Now, The Time Rate of Change, between the Rotor and the Stator is what gives the Voltage, via the equation of: E.M.F = -N dΦ / dt

Now we must incorporate this same tech to get Our Partnered Output Coils doing the same thing.

-N dΦ is the same as Ampere Turns, 100 turns carrying a Current of 1 Ampere = 100 Ampere Turns or 125.6637062 gilberts, or 100.00000061546726 Webers or Henrys.

So you see, we have a Magnetic Field Changing in Time, the first rule of Electromagnetic Induction!

Our Partnered Output Coils:

  1. One Coil being the Stator ( -N dΦ ).
  2. One Coil being the Rotor ( -N dΦ ).
  3. Our Input Coil being the Frequency Driver, or Exciter ( dt ).

 

Remember, over time, what did we see in The MEG?

From this:

 

To This:

 

 

A big jump in Core Cross Sectional Area or CSA.

I hope this helps some! Unfortunately some fiddling is required.

   Chris

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Captainloz posted this 05 December 2019

Hi Chris,

I think I get what you're saying. However I need to think on it some more.

In addition to more windings and cross sectional area, is it better to wrap the partnered output coils over one another?

Cheers,

Loz

Chris posted this 05 December 2019

Hey Loz,

Experiment is the answer to all questions! 

I have trouble when doing that, I find the Coils get Chocked off, they fail to give good results. I think video 3, 4 and 5 showed this.

You may find another way, a way I have not? So I guess I am saying, I have not had much luck doing it that way, but it may work...

   Chris

Captainloz posted this 06 December 2019

Hey Chris,

Okay, I'm going to keep it simple and keep the coils apart. I just need to do some math and figure out a new experiment.  It will be coming soon! 

Cheers,

Loz

Vidura posted this 06 December 2019

Hey Loz I have sent a PM to solve the issue you had with the PWM MODULE. I watched your video, nice work. Some time ago i have tried with a similar coil setup and open cores, and had not too much success with this. I think the coupling between the coils is the major issue. A closed core might be better, like the one from the tv screen. I found it helpful if the coils can be moved individually, as there can be found the correct position to setup the standing wave with its nodes and antinodes. Also the amount of magnetisation of the core is important, it should come close to saturation. Both on and off time have to be correct. Good work. Vidura.

Chris posted this 06 December 2019

Hey Loz,

I think use the baseline:

AMCC 320 Core Size:

  • Width = 49.5mm.
  • Height = 22mm.
  • Cross sectional Area: 49.5mm x 22mm = 1089 Square Millimeters.

Coils:

  1. Primary = 22 Turns 1.6mm
  2. POC1 = 250 Turns 0.8mm.
  3. POC2 = 250 Turns 0.8mm.

 

Magnetic Field:

  • POC1 Current = 0.703ma @250 turns.
  • Length = 0.03, Permeability = 1, for the moment.
  • Gauss = 73.618, from Zero to Peak.

 

All approximate figures...

Using this base line we should be able to work out the basic machine, to make it work, you know what I mean? Just a rough guide.

   Chris

cd_sharp posted this 06 December 2019

Hey, guys

I noticed another phenomenon in the basic setup of the experiment and I don't think it's related to the fact that I wound L1 over both POCs.

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Zanzal posted this 06 December 2019

Interesting effect, do you have the ability to do a 1-2 hour run time lapsed over say 2-3 minutes? One thing to consider would be thermal effect altering the effective resistance of the circuit, but in a situation there AU is present, there could also be more interesting ideas to consider. You could try using a temperature sensor (thermocouple) and show the output on your scope. See if there is a correlation between temperature and voltage. If there is no correlation then we'd have to consider this something very unusual. If there is correlation, we'd want to see if the voltage rise stops when the temperature stabilizes. If both reach stability then we might assume it is related to temperature.

If a long term test doesn't appeal to you, a fast test to could be done by heating the coil momentarily with a heat gun (not so much that it would damage the coils). In that case you might expect the voltage to rise suddenly then drop as the coil cools. If the voltage rises but then continues to rise afterwards, further study would be a good idea. If it rises then stabilizes then its thermal and no study is needed.

Chris posted this 06 December 2019

Hey Guys,

Zanzal is right. Temperature Drift changes the Resistance R.

However, Cooling of the Coils is also possible, a temperature meter will be a better way to measure the Coils. Start off at room temp, then run for ten minutes, the meter may just show the cooling of the Coils.

Resistance R is related to heat, or thermal drift of the Copper Coils, in either direction, will change the Resistance.

That's why us heating the Coils with a heat gun will be of no benefit. We need to know what direction the Thermal Drift is occurring.

   Chris

Captainloz posted this 07 December 2019

Hi Chris and Vidura, 

Thanks for the advise!  I'm loving this forum!

I had a huge fault in my last video I have my probes set on 10x... I'm actually very close!  I need to go back as redo some of the experiments.  I also found winding the L1 over the length of the coil made a huge difference!

The weekend is here hopefully I'll get some time to post agin soon.

Cheers,

Loz

Zanzal posted this 07 December 2019

We need to know what direction the Thermal Drift is occurring.

That's true, it could be that the transformer is getting cooler not hotter as the voltage rises. I think that would be a nice result. Not the one I would anticipate though.

cd_sharp posted this 07 December 2019

Hey, guys

@Zanzal, @Chris very smart explanations. I don't have a temperature sensor. I'll look into it.

The output voltage stabilizes after a few minutes, it doesn't rise up very much.

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Captainloz posted this 09 December 2019

Hi Guys,

Here's a quick update with the L1 in a different position.  This result has me very excited. There is still more that can be done to increase the affect. This is just the beginning.

Big thanks to Chris for all his help! 

Cheers,

Loz

Chris posted this 09 December 2019

Hey Loz,

EXCELLENT Work my friend! Thank You for sharing, you have made History!

@All Members Replicating this Tech, I am so proud! You all are part of a:

Historical, Momentous, Time!

 

We, You and I are changing the World! It truly is happening, Energy Disclosure!

More and more people are picking up the ball, learning what should be in the same category as the Times Tables, a fundamental, extremely important Life Skill!

I am so proud!

CaptainLoz, Congratulations my friend! I am so happy you are seeing this amazing result, I left a +1 on your video, wish I could do more!

You have an:

Asymmetrical Transformer

 

And it appears, the Oscilloscope is showing COP > 1.0. How about that!

Its all just in the way of thinking, its simple and cheap, nothing needs to be complicated!

Well Done!

   Chris

Jagau posted this 09 December 2019

Well done captainloz, clear and precise

thanks for sharing


Jagau

Vidura posted this 10 December 2019

Hey Loz ,

that looks great, very happy about your result.

Do you use a  ferrite core in the latest video?

Vidura.

Captainloz posted this 10 December 2019

Hi Vidura,

Yes 9 ferrite toroids (Dia 6cm x thickness 1 cm) stacked together wrapped in a piece of 1mm plastic then tape. Then I wrapped the wire.  If I had more I would have used them. Coil is a bit short.

Cheers,

Loz

 

cd_sharp posted this 10 December 2019

Fantastic work, Loz!

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Vidura posted this 10 December 2019

hey Loz 

I watched the video repeatedly, a nice idea to stack toroides as core, will try something similar. If I may ask another question: do you know what the material of the ferrite is? and I could not follow how the capacitor is connected.

PD. You have a really great lab, I like this tools.

Thanks' for sharing, Vidura

Captainloz posted this 10 December 2019

Hi Vidura,

Sorry I don't remember the permeability of the ferrite or type of ferrite.  I got them a long time ago, I was just using what I had laying around.   The cap is connected in parallel on the load side of the coil. I have to have the cap in to get the best result (.33uf cap)  When the cap is connected and it's in tune the light gets brighter and the input load goes down.  IE the output goes up and the input goes down.

I want to try and loop the system next and get a LED or small light to stay lit with no input.  That will be the true test!

Cheers,

Loz

Atti posted this 11 December 2019

I played around with the settings. At lower frequencies, the input current draw slightly decreases. The voltage of the L3 coil increases slightly. I used two additional coils with non-conductive connection. In this case, the current of the L3 coil is excited. with or without a diode.
It might be worth considering Tom Bearden's recommendation.
  Transformer with Bohm-Aharonov effect.

Chris posted this 11 December 2019

Hey Atti,

Good work! I see your'e quickly gaining a good grasp of whats occurring there! Well done!

The On-Time we give the machine, Current Rising over Time, is the Exciter. In the Equation: E.M.F = -N dPhi / dt Our Input , the Current Rise is dt. This, the part I marked Important in the original video. N dPhi is a Function of the Partnered Output Coils.

Many years ago I did an experiment, I learnt a lot from it.

I had an AC Electric Motor on a Metal Frame, and I also had a Car Alternator. A Belt Mechanically connected the two. I spun up the AC Motor. I shorted the Alternator input Coil. I saw power on the Output with Zero Electrical Input Power, Only Mechanical input Power.

I learnt, Coils need no Power, they only need to see Time Rate of Change! The rest comes directly from the Coil Interactions between each other!

Its not hard is it? Its easy, and Cheap!

   Chris

cd_sharp posted this 21 December 2019

Hey, guys

I did this experiment last week. In the basic setup, I wound L1 over both POCs and I need only a few turns to get the voltage up.

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

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cd_sharp posted this 24 February 2020

Hey, guys

An experiment that shows something expected, but that I've never seen before:

I'm not sure how to tap into it yet.

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Chris posted this 24 February 2020

Excellent work CD!

As discussed in the Measurements Thread and in Fighters ZPM Thread, as soon as the Current goes Negative on the Input, the Power is going back to the Input.

Perhaps the twisted pair on your input may be restricting this to some degree?

I have not had my Coffee yet, so forgive me if this does not make a lot of sense. My poor old brain, finding it a bit hard to follow the wiring. From what I can see, probe and ground placement is good, and all Negative Current is Current going back to the Power Supply!

If I have the right color, then above the red line is Positive Current, used Current, Below the red line is Negative Current, Returned Current.

 

Whats best of all CD, is seeing you use the PCB I sent you. Great to see! The BIG Diode by the mosfet, that allows for Current to flow back to the Input. Without a Diode here, either internal to the Mosfet or this diode, Current can not flow back to the Input.

 

D4 above seen as D1 below:

 

Its great work CD! Well done!

   Chris

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cd_sharp posted this 25 February 2020

Hey, buddy

If I have the right color, then above the red line is Positive Current, used Current, Below the red line is Negative Current, Returned Current

Yes, you're right.

Perhaps the twisted pair on your input may be restricting this to some degree?

I read you.

Thanks

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

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cd_sharp posted this 25 February 2020

Hey, guys

No, the twisted pair on the input is not to blame. Here is the proof:

Also, notice the huge input current that has a very fast rise time. It's nothing I have ever seen in all my experiments.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Chris posted this 26 February 2020

Hey CD,

Whats changed, since your last set of experiments? The Four Channel PCB?

So whats this doing your last Switch did not do? Whats different?

Nice work, Thank You for sharing!

   Chris

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cd_sharp posted this 26 February 2020

Hey, man

I'm pretty sure only a small number of my experiments used a diode from Source to Drain. That's something that changed.

Another important thing that changed was the primary coil. It consists of 4 turns, very loosely wrapped. This is probably why Don used a double speaker wire:

Only one wire is connected, the other is open ended. He did that to keep the distance between the turns. This allows for much faster rise time in the primary coil. The current is what:

More than 3V, measured across a 0.22 ohms resistors. That's close to 14 amps rising in 10uS.

Any ideas what to do to improve it?

Thanks

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Chris posted this 26 February 2020

Hey CD,

For the moment, do not worry about the Input, reason being, is the average will come out the same anyway. Over time, the average amperage will work out, so don't worry. Remember the Input to Output ratio, as long as you have that initial 80+ % you can increase this efficiency.

Remember, the Total Area under the curve.

   Chris

cd_sharp posted this 07 March 2020

Hey, guys

I did a lot of experimenting lately. As an addition, I took detailed notes. Let me start!

My POCs pair resonates around 19000 Hz. The capacitance between them is 11.2pF. Each POC is wrapped on a 36 mm bobbin and consists of about 6 layers. I tried my best to make them as identical as possible.

The next problem I'm facing is how do I design an L1 coil able to make the POCs "dance"? How many turns can do that?

I don't know. Let me apply some brute force experimenting and see what I obtain.

L1 consisting of 5 turns, very loosely wrapped over the entire POC2. Let's see how much Vpp comes out at the output (a 1.2 W light bulb). I was thinking an algorithm like this:

A. Start at a frequency where the POCs do a "shy dancing" with a 10% duty.

B. Change the frequency in order to maximize Vpp out.

C. Change the duty in order to maximize Vpp out.

D. Repeat from step B. If steps B and C are not able to increase Vpp out then we must have reached the maximum, so mark it.

Notice I took a break of about 30 minutes and when I resumed, for the same input there was a greater output Vpp. It must be because of the cooling of the coils.

Rp is actually around 0.03 ohms as I forgot to subtract the extra resistance in the MM.

We have a capacitance of 53.7 pF between L1 and one POC and 5.05pF between L1 and the other POC.

The maximum Vpp is 9.92 V and there is no "dancing". If I increase the input frequency there is a "shy dancing", too shy for what we're looking for. I'll add some turns and see what happens.

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

cd_sharp posted this 07 March 2020

Hey, everyone

Moving on, I added 5 more turns to make a total of 10 turns in L1. I noticed that using as a start point the "shy dancing" aka this situation:

is not a good idea as the output Vpp is very low, I changed the algorithm of wave catching to this:

A. Start at 100Hz and 10% duty.

B. Change the frequency in order to maximize Vpp out.

C. Change the duty in order to maximize Vpp out.

D. Repeat from step B. If steps B and C are not able to increase Vpp out then we must have reached the maximum, so mark it.

This is the result:

So, with only 3V at the input we get 161V at the output, a close to unity COP and a "dangerous" setup. I increased the input voltage to 12V and the light bulb got burned.

Very interesting, but far away from the frequency & duty pair that makes the coils do the "shy dancing". I'll continue adding turns.

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

cd_sharp posted this 07 March 2020

Hey, everyone

I changed the L1 stranded wire to a thicker one and scaled up to 15 turns.

The Vpp at the output is greater and I noticed that the value is quite unstable. I also noticed that the input voltage from the power supply is unstable also. I added 2 x 10000 uF caps in parallel with the PS to reduce the issue.

Nothing else interesting, moving on, adding 5 more turns and then changing the L1 wire to enamel wire as I ran out of space using stranded wire.

The Vpp on the load jumps to 288V, but it does not produce anything out of the ordinary in my POCs. It looks like the more turns I add in L1, the greater Vpp gets. Sure, there must be a limit to it, but it's not near.

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Chris posted this 08 March 2020

Hey CD,

This is really good documentation! Well done!

When you say:

close to unity COP

 

and considering a standard transformer off the shelf is only COP = 0.8, what would you say is getting you up to and past a standard Transformer?

I am at a loss to explain why, with all your experiments, you have not yet seen better results, but lets persist, we will not give up as we know something somewhere is a problem. Its just a case of getting to the bottom of the problem.

Some things to try, see what starts to increase your Outputs, and get even better than you already have:

  • Check your Core for a Gap, if there is a gap, decrease it, if there is no gap, try to increase it.
  • Check your Input Circuit, start documenting your Circuits, per video and what you try and when.
  • Change the Primary, POCOne Coil, the Loaded Coil, to the Opposite Coil.
  • Adjust the Coupling from one Coil to the Other. Measure the Assist the Coil gives while Adjusting...
  • Measure your POCOne Current and see if POCTwo Voltage aligns up as I showed in my videos. Remember, its the Change in Current that creates the Voltage.
  • Really, look for the adjustments that the machine likes to see, if the effects drop off, you are going the wrong way, go back.
  • Measure the slope of your Input Current, vs Voltage gained on POCOne and same again on POCTwo.
  • Does your Input go Down, or go Up when Connecting POCTwo?
  • Try pulsing, with the same config, but a second switch and a small battery or something on POCTwo to see whats supposed to go on when POCTwo Assists the Machine. This will help you to get a feel for the operation.
  • Check your input does not have some sort of protection diodes somewhere, stopping the input Current coming back.
  • Measure best Standard Transformer COP, set yourself a standard Baseline to work to, and compare to COP with POC. See what Configuration assists and drops your Input.
  • Remember, the Magnetic Field by itself is Symmetrical, so perhaps best stick to the Configuration I showed in my Video. Why? The Magnetic Field has two poles, each pole has a Propagation delay, lets try to balance this delay for the mean time.

 

When you can observe your input going down, by the operation of POCTwo, then you know your'e heading in the right direction!

 

Thank You Wistiti for showing this! Remember I said this requires some fiddling, well, there you go, it does require some fiddling.

I also said, some cores just don't work, but never seen a Metglas core that does not work, so stick with your core.

Stick at it CD, you will get there, keep working, thinking, keep trying little things.

 

When I see things, I try to point out what I think might improve your machine, but your work should have seen better results already! I will try the best I can from here.

Bets wishes,

   Chris

cd_sharp posted this 08 March 2020

Hey, Chris

All good suggestions. I'll try.

In the last experiment I've seen a voltage increase due to the better coupling of L1 to the core, by using enamel wire.

Let me add 2 turns and see the effect:

Vpp out has raised a lot, but the POCs refuse to dance. At this time I accidentally increased the input voltage and burned another light bulb.

Notice the very low frequency the device prefers.

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Captainloz posted this 11 March 2020

Hi Guys,

Two steps forward and one back.  This seems like a step back, however I'm still learning so it's all good.  Not really anything here that moves us forward except to see what is not working.  I just wanted to show what I've been up to.  One thing I found interesting is there doesn't seem to be narrow frequency band where it works better, basically from 100hz to 2 Khz is the same drawing between 4-5watts with a duty of 10%

Cheers,

Loz

Chris posted this 12 March 2020

Hey Loz,

Mate, awesome work! Don't give up.

I added this comment to your video:

+1 nice work Loz! Youre on the right track! Dont give up! What I would do from here is wrap 10 turns 1.4mm wire around one of the POC's. Pipe that POC out through a Diode, to your Load and the Current sense resistor. Then add the piping of the other POC, in reverse, so it opposes the first POC. Your'e on the right track, don't give up! Think its just a fancy Transformer, Electromagnetic induction . Commend also added to the thread.

 

I should make this more clear:

  1. Wrap 10 turns around one POC of say 1.4 mm Copper Enameled wire.
  2. That POC, Load it with the Diode Light and CSR in the Forward Direction, apply the Right Hand Rule.
  3. Wire the other POC with the Diode CSR and make sure it Opposes the first POC. Apply the Right Hand Grip Rule.

 

By maximising the Coupling between one POC and the Input Coil, your efficiency of Energy Transfer here should be very High, 80+ percent. Then the other POC only needs to add 20% to make unity!

When you see the Sawtooth Waveform, then you know your'e on your way. POCOne and POCTwo must oppose, if they do not oppose, then its not right. It is possible to have both POC's add Magnetically, however we dont want that, POCTwo add's a Second Input Energy to the System. Thus must Assist the Input.

Best wishes and thanks for sharing!

   Chris

Captainloz posted this 13 March 2020

Hi Chris,

Thanks for the support! Okay I'll give it a try and post the results. I just ordered some 1.4mm wire, should have it a few days.

Cheers,

Loz

stand by posted this 16 March 2020

As I said I will participate as much as I can to enhance the principle of partner coils.
If I will be able to upload two videos directly to the thread - Non inductive coil experiment replication

Chris
I am not able to put the videos in the post. Sorry.
Someone will explain it to me when possible

Chris posted this 16 March 2020

Hey Christian,

Thanks for sharing. Keep at it! Replicate the Circuits I shared, look for and advance on the Effects! The Sawtooth Waveform is important!

Best wishes,

   Chris

stand by posted this 18 March 2020

Hello again.

thanks Chris
You are right. This road is long.
I think I don't know how many unknown problems I have before me
I also think that using a ferrite core, the situation is different. This material saturates easily and this complicates things when the inductance is higher. This is why I changed the core with fewer turns, forcing the mayor to work quickly. I don't know .... a helping hand?

Chris posted this 20 March 2020

Hey Stand By,

Good job, Thank You for Sharing!

Your'e on track! I left the following message on your video:

+1 thanks for sharing! Use the Right Hand Grip Rule and apply Conventional Current to the Diodes, make sure the Coils are opposing. Still a little work to get the Sawtooth Waveform, keep trying! looks good so far!

 

@CD, any advice you can provide?

Keep at it Stand By! You will get there! The Sawtooth waveform comes from the Coil Action Reaction pairs. It is the Result of Opposing Magnetic Fields.

Best wishes,

   Chris

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Captainloz posted this 20 March 2020

Hi Chris,

I've made the recommend changes and it's little better. The light is brighter but its still not close to where it needs to be. 

I feel a bit dumb and embarrassed sealed I think I have the right hand grip rule correct now... Silly mistake!  I think in my last video the POC's flux was being pushed in the same direction...

Next video I'll have the 2nd POC hooked up.

Cheers,

Loz

 

 

cd_sharp posted this 20 March 2020

Hey, guys

@CD, any advice you can provide?

I'm still working on getting this experiment AU. @Loz, My guess is you need a core you can gap. Also, take note on the antennas 1/4 wavelength. It's very sensitive to core gaps. I'm very busy ATM, but I'll promise I'll come back very motivated.

Thanks

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

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Chris posted this 20 March 2020

Hey Loz,

Mate you have it 100% spot on!

You need to set your Scope Probe to 1x, not 10x. Set the Scope to the 10x. This means you have a Ohms Law measurement of: 1 x 0.1 x 10 = 1 Ohm. Meaning if you have 1 Volt measured across the 0.1 Ohm resistor it is 1 Amp, because 1 x 1 = 1.

I hope this makes sense?

Awesome work my friend!

   Chris

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stand by posted this 20 March 2020

Hello everybody

for the first time I would like to use a slogan desired by everyone ..... WITHOUT THE VIRUSE CORONA !!!!!!

Okay. Today I think - (or I hope it is true) I managed to replicate the Chris Sykes effect with the opposing coil partner coils. I am convinced that if I am close, there is more to do before me, the problem that I do not know at this moment to solve.

Date:                       link video  

- I use a large flyback transformer core from old TV models.

- the two Pocs each have 20mh (180 turns of 0.9mm)

- the primary coil has 8 turns (and here is the first point where it has to

      intervene)

- a small generator that can be seen in aliexpress for sale for

     2 euros but has the output on a mosfet driver from the tc4422 range.

- a small lamp from 10 w to 12 v

So far. I will come back with new details if any of them confirm that they are on the right way.

                                     --- thank you all for being there ---

stand by posted this 20 March 2020

I will come back with an update to the previous video
This time at a lower voltage I can drain something through the negative rail at the power supply.
It's not much but for me it means I'm doing well

link video:

Chris posted this 20 March 2020

Nice work Christian!

Your first video you had a better waveform, perhaps head back to that video. I left some messages on your videos:

+1 Excellent work Cristophalba! I see you have a pretty good waveform there! Very nice! You have come far in a short time! Keep up the excellent work! Your last video, the waveform was better. Perhaps head back to the direction in the last video and improve from there.

 

Good work, Thank You for sharing!

Best wishes,

   Chris

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Captainloz posted this 20 March 2020

Hey Loz,

Mate you have it 100% spot on!

You need to set your Scope Probe to 1x, not 10x. Set the Scope to the 10x. This means you have a Ohms Law measurement of: 1 x 0.1 x 10 = 1 Ohm. Meaning if you have 1 Volt measured across the 0.1 Ohm resistor it is 1 Amp, because 1 x 1 = 1.

I hope this makes sense?

Awesome work my friend!

   Chris

 

Thanks for pointing that out Chris!  I've made that mistake before having it set to 1x makes a big difference! Hahaha! The old brain doesn't function at times.  

Cheers,

Loz

stand by posted this 21 March 2020

Chris thank you for supporting your messages and for my YouTube channel.
You will analyze everything later and I will continue this project.

Chris
I'm sorry for a question I think was asked. Do the diodes have to be fast or very fast?
I say this because now I use 6A / 1000V normal rectifier diodes and first I used avalanche diodes with fast recovery. Any detail can be important

Captain Loz.
<< Welcome to the club >>. The mistake with the rule of the right hand is very easy to commit. It always happens to look forward to seeing the results. For me it is easier to correct because my coils are easily removable.

all the best. cristi albax

Chris posted this 21 March 2020

Hi Stand By,

Yes changing the Diodes can make a difference. One must stop and think why, because the diodes themselves is not what makes a difference, its the timing between them.

Delayed Conduction is the term I have used to describe whats going on there.

Best wishes,

   Chris

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stand by posted this 21 March 2020

Thanks Chris
At to work, if we are still locked in the house.....

best regard   cristi albax

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stand by posted this 21 March 2020

Hi Chris
With all due respect, I dare to ask a question.
Can a measurement on a 1ohm resistor with the oscilloscope be representative?
I'm talking about this thrend: Non inductive coil experiment replication
thanks.

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Chris posted this 21 March 2020

Hi Stand By,

The Oscilliscope is the most accurate device we Human Beings have ever invented and built! If the Oscilliscope is used properly, it is the most powerful tool of all. When you present the question:

Can a measurement on a 1ohm resistor with the oscilloscope be representative?
I'm talking about this thrend: Non inductive coil experiment replication

 

If used properly with the right Current Sensing Resistor, then there is no better tool to observe what is going on!

Your question is a good question, but at the same time, we all should have satisfactory confidence in our equipment and our skills to use them!

Best wishes,

   Chris

stand by posted this 22 March 2020

Thanks Chris.
I intuited your answer. You are always helpful

 

Jagau posted this 22 March 2020

Hi stand by

You will find here what you need

i ordered one and it will be very useful

http://www.aboveunity.com/thread/measurement-block-pcb-and-kit-on-e-bay/?order=all#comment-80a65f2e-e9f6-4431-bcc0-ab720097d569

And a very good modular switching tool here:

http://www.aboveunity.com/thread/developing-a-modular-switching-tool-for-research/?order=all#comment-39cba06f-d56a-47f7-8416-ab67015f698f

 

Jagau

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stand by posted this 22 March 2020

Hi all

 

 

I read almost everything Chris and the others posted about;

 

<Replication of the non-inductive coil experiment>. It is quite interesting, but at the same time it is very difficult for me to assimilate all the information developed by Chris in a few days. Again ..... Very well exposed and well explained to everyone, advanced or beginners

 

I resumed the experiment that I hope is successful but in the end I blocked again.

I understand that the L2 coil generates about 80% simulating the transformer. OK I understood that l2 has to manage l3 to get past the unit. not? Continued .......

 

I am absolutely convinced that there has to be an adjustment margin in setting the frequencies and the duty cycle for L2 to work. Chris detailed at one point that the primary coil does not handle L3. L2 does that, right? My question is how do you do it?

 

I hope that Mr Google will correctly translate what I have written because he has translated my words sometimes wrong. For this it is necessary to apologize from now on

 

OK I made a video and I hope I succeeded.  

 

Thanks Chris, thank you to everyone for being here

stand by posted this 22 March 2020

Jagau Thank you. I will follow the links indicated by you. It is true that I have a lot to study and read in this forum.

Note.
I just uploaded a video and the link to youtube does not work.
I have also checked other video links of others and it does not work either

stand by posted this 22 March 2020

I solved
it was the adblock

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stand by posted this 31 March 2020





Hello again
I tried a new configuration for this and I think that would be the correct one.
I have two questions with your permission and if Chris is kind enough to answer me.
- If this is the correct configuration and if the waveform is the correct one ...
- Is it possible to enter resonance in this case at 35 kHz?
Specifically, I tried to get this signal on oscilloscope with a reduced working cycle and on a range of 250- 900hz, but it was a failure.
Thank you all for being there.   

   excuse me my english.
cristian albax.

  

Chris posted this 31 March 2020

Hi Christian,

Good work, however its still not right, a little ways to go, please review others work here, or review video seven:

 

Thanks for sharing your progress!

Also, please note: This is just the start!

Best wishes,

   Chris

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stand by posted this 31 March 2020

Chris.

Thanks for the reply. All our lives we start from somewhere, and I chose to start with you. Here.

Also I started (finally) to understand the phenomenon <bucking> and this I have not been able to do in all the years as you have moderated the thread in the other forum. I have never been able to understand because of the difference in language and between two rounds of scandal caused by those unhappy .... Finally. Another small step I will put here ...

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Chris posted this 31 March 2020

 Hi Christian,

Yes, on the other forum I was moderated. Many there were un-happy with me sharing my work! And still are!

I remember we, you and I have not seen eye to eye before also, some time back? Its ok, I don't have a problem, its all good I see you have good intentions!

Look I want to put this out there: I share my work, if others want to learn what I have learned then great, we have since made progress! Some have shared their work and its proven to be valuable beyond those that wish to stop us's wishes! However, these douch bags are no longer in control! We are!

Time, Experiment, and properly investigating the smallest things normally overlooked by others will be out path forward!

I do not know everything, I am a student also. I only try to make a difference!

Best wishes,

   Chris

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stand by posted this 31 March 2020

Chris
I think it's a mistake. I was not an active member under any name, never on Stefan's forum. If I remember correctly, when you started the Bucking Coil thread years ago I said to myself that you are a new pioneer of everyday reality, but I have never interfered with you. You may have the word of a man who is 60 .
The only forum where I have been and still are registered; is Energetic forum.
There I activated some time, but only in a discreet manner. If you ask someone from Aaron's forum - no one remembers me
There is one more (I do not remember the name where Bedini was active), but after exposing my Zero Force Motor in the eight-coil version, I was completely ignored by all participants, which caused me to withdraw. .
So I am a discrete member with the characteristic values ​​of the person of my age.
Thank you for your honesty. I felt that something was wrong since I came back here in the forum.
With respect cristian albax.

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Chris posted this 31 March 2020

Hi Christian,

Please do not worry, I may have confused you with someone else.

Your'e doing good work! Keep at it! Learn as much as you can! It will come in time! Study others here with working machines, they all have similarities and get the the same end goal in slightly different methods.

Best wishes,

   Chris

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strape posted this 02 April 2020

Hello, I do not know where to post, so I put it here, because it is a replication of non-induction coils ..

I keep reading this forum and getting information. It's time to add something too. After many attempts, I finally approached some reasonable curve, even though I have doubts about it .. it's definitely not the right thing ... I still don't see the true slap.

 

The coils are on the ferrite core E. The wire is 0.6 mm and on the primary 1 mm. Power supply 9V, followed by diode protection (Graetz mustek) Filter capacitors 6x 3500uF / 63V. On the bridge I have a drop of 1.49V .. The device is therefore powered 7.61V. Fet transistor is used IRF3205 with Diode over (S-D). The device is powered by a FY6800 generator. The signal is generated by a CMOS freq: 7.1kHz Duty 5%. sent 10V to Gate Fet.
The measuring resistors consist of two series-connected 0.05 ohm resistors. The diodes on the coils are used MBR360G. As a burden is used bulb (the only thing I read on it) 6W ..

 

Coil L2: Voltage - yellow trace (C1), Current - blue trace (C3). Coil L3: Voltage - Green (C4), Current - Red Footprint (C2)

 

Right now I don't get more power, I don't know where to look for the cause. Whether it's a large number of threads or a small wire diameter, an unsuitable ferrite core .. I really don't know. I plan to rewind it all to another skeleton and use a larger wire diameter.
 I would ask for some advice, somehow direct me what to focus on exactly. I have downloaded AboveUnity calculator. Unfortunately, it is in English and I do not understand it very much .. The calculations and theories of functioning of these circuits are still outside of me, I am at the very beginning .. So it will be all for now, we wanted to share our results with you. have a nice day everyone ..

Excuse my English, translated by Google. If this post belongs elsewhere, please move or remove it.

Chris posted this 02 April 2020

Hi Strape,

Excellent work! Well done!

Delayed Conduction and turn your Input power up as i did in the Video, until you get more Interaction between the Coils.

Delayed Conduction should help with the Slapping together of the Coils, so maybe a Diode with a longer delay time on one side, The MEG Team used a TVS, Transient Voltage Suppressor, or they called it a Transorber.

Turning the Input up bringing the Magnetic Field Interactions up, increasing the Action Reaction pair between the Partnered Output Coils. 

Well done sir! My Hat is off to you! You deserve to be added to the list of successful replications! I have added you, here.

From here on, its just a case of improving on the effects, making adjustments to increase the Input to Output ratios. You will note, the MEG Team developments over time. Perhaps worth reading their patents, and related literature.

We can help! by following the above this will be a start. Maximise the Magnetic Field Interactions, this will reduce the Input Power, the more power is sent back to the Input, then the less you use, the more Output you get, Wistiti has show this very well:

 

You have the waveform very good!

Best wishes,

   Chris

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strape posted this 03 April 2020

Thank you Chris, I will focus on your advice ..

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Chris posted this 04 April 2020

Hey CD,

This is really good documentation! Well done!

When you say:

close to unity COP

 

and considering a standard transformer off the shelf is only COP = 0.8, what would you say is getting you up to and past a standard Transformer?

I am at a loss to explain why, with all your experiments, you have not yet seen better results, but lets persist, we will not give up as we know something somewhere is a problem. Its just a case of getting to the bottom of the problem.

Some things to try, see what starts to increase your Outputs, and get even better than you already have:

  • Check your Core for a Gap, if there is a gap, decrease it, if there is no gap, try to increase it.
  • Check your Input Circuit, start documenting your Circuits, per video and what you try and when.
  • Change the Primary, POCOne Coil, the Loaded Coil, to the Opposite Coil.
  • Adjust the Coupling from one Coil to the Other. Measure the Assist the Coil gives while Adjusting...
  • Measure your POCOne Current and see if POCTwo Voltage aligns up as I showed in my videos. Remember, its the Change in Current that creates the Voltage.
  • Really, look for the adjustments that the machine likes to see, if the effects drop off, you are going the wrong way, go back.
  • Measure the slope of your Input Current, vs Voltage gained on POCOne and same again on POCTwo.
  • Does your Input go Down, or go Up when Connecting POCTwo?
  • Try pulsing, with the same config, but a second switch and a small battery or something on POCTwo to see whats supposed to go on when POCTwo Assists the Machine. This will help you to get a feel for the operation.
  • Check your input does not have some sort of protection diodes somewhere, stopping the input Current coming back.
  • Measure best Standard Transformer COP, set yourself a standard Baseline to work to, and compare to COP with POC. See what Configuration assists and drops your Input.
  • Remember, the Magnetic Field by itself is Symmetrical, so perhaps best stick to the Configuration I showed in my Video. Why? The Magnetic Field has two poles, each pole has a Propagation delay, lets try to balance this delay for the mean time.

 

When you can observe your input going down, by the operation of POCTwo, then you know your'e heading in the right direction!

 

Thank You Wistiti for showing this! Remember I said this requires some fiddling, well, there you go, it does require some fiddling.

I also said, some cores just don't work, but never seen a Metglas core that does not work, so stick with your core.

Stick at it CD, you will get there, keep working, thinking, keep trying little things.

 

When I see things, I try to point out what I think might improve your machine, but your work should have seen better results already! I will try the best I can from here.

Bets wishes,

   Chris

 

My Friends,

CD has just shown here, that trying a few minor things can make all the difference! Excellent work CD! You should be very proud sir!

Starfleet Academy here we come!

We truly are Light Years Ahead of the other forums!

Your hard work has paid off, and you are now leaps and bounds ahead! Its up and up from here!

Best wishes,

   Chris

cd_sharp posted this 11 May 2020

Hey, guys

This is the replication of Chris' Non-inductive coil experiment :

 

 

with measurements showing an AU experiment. This is one very sensitive to polarity experiment.

Thanks for watching!

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Chris posted this 11 May 2020

Hey CD,

Thumbs Up Buddy! +1 Excellent Work CD! I am extremely happy you found the right polarity and configuration! An excellent effort, one to be very proud of! Well Done!

If I may suggest: Document everything! Gap if any, Core type and model, Coil wire gauges, turns and inductance's, Copper Alloy Coils? Everything you can, Frequency, Duty Cycle, Input V and I and all else you can think of! Turn Direction relative to one Axis.

Why?

One day you may need to refer back to this!

Best wishes,

   Chris

 

P.S: Notice the difference in the Waveform?

Chris posted this 12 May 2020

@CD, and all Readers,

Some quick calculations:

Input:
12.0 Volts
0.20 Amperes
2.4 Watts

Output:
8.27 Volts
0.066 / 0.2 = 0.33 Amperes
2.7291‬ Watts

 

Note: 80% of 2.4 = 1.92, which is approximately the Output of a Transformer with Input of 2.4 Watts minus Losses, we should normally expect to see on the Output! This is the typical Transformer including Losses. Losses are normally around 20% in most Transformers! We have enough Energy "Generated" to make up for Losses and a little bit more, to get above the Unity Boundary. 113.71% more Energy. 2.7291 - 1.92 = 0.8091 Watts gain or 33.7125% Gain.

CD is getting: COP = 1.137125

 

What we are trying to share:

  1. It is real!
  2. It works!
  3. Its cheap and easy once you understand! 

 

Congratulations on your Success! All that's required now is Improvements! Now you have the Actions correct, its a case of Maximizing on these Interactions to increase the Output.

Great work my Friend! Thanks For Sharing!

   Chris

Atti posted this 13 May 2020

Hey CD.

Nice work!

Question:
- is the input coil (primer) controlled by only one coil or both columns? (by both I mean they are tied in a row)


- by polarity do you mean secondary (POC) coils?
- is this the exact drawing of the layout?

 

Or this:

 

Nagy Attila

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Atti posted this 13 May 2020

CD.

(now I have some time to deal with the issues)
I'm asking for the following. As you can see, the line drawn in red shows the connection of the two diodes. This is, after all, a central tap. (i know this drawing does not belong here)

You’ve already dealt with this (maybe most of everyone!) You know what effect it has.
My question is also:
-how much do the two types of connections matter?
-is there any significant differences between them in the measurements?
-so central tapping
-or L2-L3 separately

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cd_sharp posted this 13 May 2020

Hey, Atti

It's the exact same schema posted by Chris in the non-inductive coil experiment:

L1 is the one at the top

The bottom thick wire coil is not being used.

There is no trick to this circuit, no hidden detail, no special diodes, no magic core, no special winding, .. It's just the starting point of the coils. Think where every coil wire starts related to a changing magnetic field.

I don't see why this could not work with a ferrite core.

I started studying this setup and I can say I'm thrilled. There are so many dots connecting, for example with the MIT of Graham Gunderson. We have to evolve this setup, I'm convinced it can scale up.

Best wishes, my friends!

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Atti posted this 13 May 2020

Regarding the arrangement in the drawing above. Although I made a statement to Chris that I would give some translations of it. But I realized that I could only give my idea! (There is no exact information about it. Patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/CA2172240A1/en ) This, in turn, is full of errors! So it would be a mistake to mislead others. Nevertheless, I am convinced that some details of your work will definitely fit here.

cd_sharp posted this 13 May 2020

Hey, Atti and everyone

Details? This is crucial: Think where every POC wire starts in relationship to the hemispheres of a changing magnetic field. There is a small number of possible polarities.

Thanks

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

cd_sharp posted this 19 May 2020

Hey, guys

Changing the diode on POCone to a 1n4007 (actually there are 2 in parallel), which seems to switch a little faster, brings up some weird behavior that we talked about a few years ago.

Thanks for watching!

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

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cd_sharp posted this 20 May 2020

Hey, guys!

I wanted to know how one POC helps L1, since it's clear how the other POC fights it.

It cannot help if it's conducting only during the off-time. It has to add up to the input effort which it does in this device:

Thanks for watching!

 

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Chris posted this 20 May 2020

Hey CD,

The Answer is: Action, Reaction and Counter-Reaction.

 

Action: 

Primary Coil Creates a Disturbance in the Vacuum.

 

Reaction:

The Secondary Coil Opposes this Disturbance, Lenz's Law.

 

Counter-Reaction:

The Tertiary Coil then opposes the Secondary Coil, Lenz's Law again, but this time, not opposing the Primary, opposing the Secondary, an Assistive Force to the Primary.

 

We must realise, every Coil has a Reaction Force, this is seen as a Dual Wave Structure:

  1. Incoming Wave, to create a Disturbance in the Conductive Mass.
  2. A Reactionary Wave, Out Going, Lenz's Law Effect, Newton's Laws of Motion, "For every Action there is an Equal and opposite Reaction".

 

We now, using Asymmetry, changed the Laws, now having Action, Reaction and Counter-Reaction. Showing the way around Newton's Laws of Motion, no longer being a Law, only a reasonably accurate description.

@Minute: 21 : 15

 

 

Newton's third law and will tell you how to beat that thing - there's no problem with that we can do that

 

You have found one of two ways this configuration can work, another way, similar, exists.

Best wishes, stay safe and well,

   Chris

leonel posted this 2 weeks ago

Hello guys,
Thanks CD.
Chris .. Thanks for clarifying how it works, I have a question .. what if I use a scheme like the one you present but this time I feed it with 120 ac and not pulsing dc? I ask the question because I got a transformer with addictive polarity (180) defaced with the primary; It means that it has the same design required for what is stated by you to be fulfilled.

Thank you beforehand!

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leonel posted this 2 weeks ago

Hello guys,
Thanks CD.
Chris .. Thanks for clarifying how it works, I have a question .. what if I use a scheme like the one you present but this time I feed it with 120 ac and not pulsing dc? I ask the question because I got a transformer with addictive polarity (180) defaced with the primary; It means that it has the same design required for what is stated by you to be fulfilled.

Thanks!

Chris posted this 2 weeks ago

Hi Lionel,

No I do not recommend that! That is very dangerous and will not give you an indication of how this works.

Best wishes, stay safe and well,

   Chris

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Munny posted this 2 weeks ago

The Answer is: Action, Reaction and Counter-Reaction.

Action: 

Primary Coil Creates a Disturbance in the Vacuum.

Reaction:

The Secondary Coil Opposes this Disturbance, Lenz's Law.

Counter-Reaction:

The Tertiary Coil then opposes the Secondary Coil, Lenz's Law again, but this time, not opposing the Primary, opposing the Secondary, an Assistive Force to the Primary.

We must realise, every Coil has a Reaction Force, this is seen as a Dual Wave Structure:

  1. Incoming Wave, to create a Disturbance in the Conductive Mass.
  2. A Reactionary Wave, Out Going, Lenz's Law Effect, Newton's Laws of Motion, "For every Action there is an Equal and opposite Reaction".

We now, using Asymmetry, changed the Laws, now having Action, Reaction and Counter-Reaction.

The next logical step seems to me to be one of solving the impedance issue.  We have to consider transmission line theory and match our load to the device.  We have to understand what happens when reflections enter into the equation.  I highly suspect we are dealing with a dynamic impedance (due to Action, Reaction & Counter-Reaction) when our loads have a relatively static impedance.  What I'm getting at is there exists the possibility these devices work perfectly, only we screw them up by connecting the wrong type of load and instead of focusing on the load and fixing that, we make the assumption the device is out of tune or otherwise not working correctly.  That may not be the case at all.  It could be we have to rethink what a load should really look like, be it some type of motor, illumination or thermal transfer.

Years ago I played around with the concept of sympathetic vibrations and I can tell you with certainty if the two devices you want oscillating together do no cooperate, both devices fail to function as intended.

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