Important: Delayed Conduction in Bucking Coils

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Chris posted this 11 March 2019

My Friends,

The Effects of Delayed Conduction in Bucking Coils is important. What is Delayed Conduction? What is the point of this?

Delayed Conduction is specifically to get the Voltage on the Terminals of your Partnered Output Coils as high as possible in reason! Its the change in Magnetic Field that Creates Voltage, its the Opposition of Magnetic Fields that Pumps Current! 

Circuitry can also be employed to delay Conduction on the second Partnered Output Coil.

Ref: How to build your own Above Unity Machine


I gave an example of Delayed Conduction here.

As you can see, the Mosfets will only conduct when the Zener Diodes Conduct, this is rated to 18 Volts.

This means, the ends of the Partnered Output Coils must be at least 18 Volts, before the Coils can power any load!

We have seen this before! This is not new to those that have done the Study!



The MEG Demo Circuit

Where D2 represents a Bi-Directional TVS.


Ref: JLN MEG Replication


Ref: The MEG Team Data.

Where the Top Trace represents the Input Channels, and the bottom Trace Magnetic Resonance in the Output Coils, seen as Asymmetrical Regauging.


NOTE: JLN used a MOV in his MEG Replication. A MOV has similar Voltage to Current Characteristics! 


Ref: JonRB



Ref: Renesas Datasheet


Ref: The MOV or Varistor V I Characteristics




I want to stress the point of getting the Voltage on the Terminals of your Partnered Output Coils to a maximum without being disturbed. Input Creates a Voltage on your Terminals, then the Input is switched off. Then your Partnered Output Coils Conduct and we Pump Current.

Remember: Some of these Circuits may require an Earth Ground.


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Chris posted this 11 March 2019

My Friends,

What I am sharing is critical, extremely important Information!

Magnetic Resonance is seen at a specific Frequency and a specific Duty Cycle. This is a specific characteristic of the Coils, Induction and so on. Lots of turns means low Frequency, few turns means higher Frequency.

When you catch the Wave, you will know, trust me!

Monitor your Currents, you will see, equal and opposite. You will see the Sawtooth Wave form also, seen above and shown many times on this forum!

Bucking Coils, Pumping Current, the effects of Magnetic Resonance are truly amazing. Brute Force for free, a little tickle under the chin and the Machine does the rest for you, a Pump, like the Hydraulic Ram Pump, shown many times also!

Simple Starting Circuit - Some parts upside down to make you think backwards.

Where: D1 is a Delayed Conduction Device, Zener Diode and a Mosfet or a MOV or a TVS or similar device.


I really want to encourage all here to share your work, this works!

This is very important! A critical point has been reached and I need all members here to direct their attention to this topic for a little while?


We truly are Light Years ahead of the other forums!


Wistiti posted this 12 March 2019

I will build something base on this concept you share my freind and will share it with all on the forum.

For now my spare time is limited but as soon as I can, I will prioritize this one.

Thank you for sharing!

Chris posted this 12 March 2019

My Friends,

@Wistiti - Thank you my Friend.

What to look for is, at the time of Delayed Conduction, is a Standing Wave of much Greater Potential:

Ref: /cQWLP6k-c7I


A Naturally Simulated Effect, one in which we need to simulate in our Electromagnetic Waves! This causes the increase in Magnetic Resonance, it can be much greater than the original Wave input! Then of Course, we hold Conduction, the Wave dissipates and we have much greater Energy Output than we input!

This is the: Waves Slapping Together.



We saw an example of how this can work here.


Chris posted this 12 March 2019

My Friends,

On the: 30 July 2017, I placed the thread: Timing, here for a reason. I made specific focus on the interactions of the Coils and how the Coils were used in specific ways, to reduce Transients, in the form of Common Mode Noise, almost entirely!

I asked you to think about ways to reverse the situation, saying: "You need to let the System Breath, bring it to life!", now, today, I have shown you how important timing is! What is possible with timed Electromagnetic Wave Interactions!

I ask you, do you see a pattern? Do you see what I am doing? Do you see how much planning and work this has taken? has changed the world! We are light years ahead of the other forums! They have been left in the dust! Redundant, effective immediately!

We have made the world a better place, and we don't plan to stop here! Support us, help us, this train ride has only just begun!


Jagau posted this 12 March 2019

Hi Chris

I noted that there was in addition to frequency and duty cycle a third extremely critical adjustment,

the power level of the mosfet gate,  for my circuit this has completely change the results.

I do not know if for others you have noted the same results ??


Chris posted this 12 March 2019

Hi Jagau,

My Friend, yes, there is a little fiddling. Once found the results are very prominent. Its not hard to miss once one knows what to look for! Problem is, very few know what to look for!

Yes you're right, slowly turning up the input power and one will soon find the Conduction Power required. wink

Fantastic work my Friend!


Chris posted this 13 March 2019

My Friends,

I want to share again:


The same rules apply as I have shared in the thread: Parallel Wire or Bifilar Coil Experiment which was a very important introductory thread!

If you learn and understand what I am trying to share in the video, then catching the wave will be the only thing that takes a little fiddling!



P.S: This content I am sharing with you, you will not find anywhere else in such detail. I ask you, save and share this information. It is very important!

Jagau posted this 14 March 2019

 Its the change in Magnetic Field that Creates Voltage,

its the Opposition of Magnetic Fields that Pumps Current

Hi Chris 

This is words of wisdom too


Chris posted this 14 March 2019

My Friends,

This thread is so important!

I would like to emphasize the necessity of catching the wave. We have seen four examples of this:

I have shared one of my experiments also: Here

My Friends, I really want to stress the importance of patterns!

  • All of the above have one thing in common, the threads have the tag: Above Unity
  • All of then showed the Sawtooth Waveform!
  • All of them had very clear Energy Gains using Magnetic Resonance.


The Sawtooth Waveform

We all should be very familiar with the Sawtooth Wave form! I have been showing it for months now. It is very important that the understanding of how this waveform is achieved! Like I have tried to explain, this is where the Waves Slap Together, the Electromagnetic Fields of each Partnered Output Coil.


The Partnered Output Coils react together to Generate Energy. Using Delayed Conduction to achieve a Resonance in the Coils, called Magnetic Resonance!


Don Smith:


The MEG Team:



Tinman (Bradley Richard Atherton):




Graham Gunderson:



The Sharp Spike is Delayed Conduction, it is where the Two Partnered Output Coils have Magnetic Interactions that slap together very fast!

It causes a high Voltage, we hold the Conduction and the Magnetic Fields decrease linearly:


The Magnetic Fields slowly decrease to Zero, Equilibrium.



If you do these experiments, and have the patience to work together with us to the end goal, then you truly will have a self running Energy Machine!


@Jagau - I am glad that helps!

The fundamental magnets have been broken free of their binding forces which constrained them to be steady-state single pole uniform magnetic flux devices. They are now able to simply support mass, as demonstrated with the transformer steel illustration. They can now easily be made to adopt a dynamic motional field by applying a tiny amount of excitation. Specifically, 10V @ 1 mA (10 mW) of excitation at 60 Hz. will enable the coils of the triode to receive from the Dirac Sea in excess of 5000 watts of usable negative energy; how much more can safely be removed has not yet been determined.

Ref: Nothing is Something


Jagau, the above quote is nothing about the Magnets! Its about the Magnetic Fields! It reads wrong, there is an effort there to deceive, to miss-lead others!

The dynamic Field is Magnetic Resonance between the two Coils, actually Floyd Sweet used two sets of two Coils. Yes it is excited by a small amount of Power, because at Magnetic Resonance, the Coils feed back Energy to the input.

How this should read:

The fundamental magnetic fields of the Coils have been broken free of their bound force which constrained them to be steady-state single pole uniform magnetic flux source. They are now able to simply support mass, as demonstrated with the supporting Current demonstration. They can now easily be made to adopt a dynamic motional field by applying a tiny amount of excitation. Specifically, 10V @ 1 mA (10 mW) of excitation at 60 Hz. will enable the coils of the triode to receive from the Dirac Sea in excess of 5000 watts of usable negative energy; how much more can safely be removed has not yet been determined.


By changing only a few words, its now got a hugely different meaning!


cd_sharp posted this 15 March 2019

Hey, guys,

I think the above statement describes a very smart application of the saturable reactor effect. Graham Gunderson also describes a saturable reactor when he explains what the ceramic magnets are doing in there. @Chris, did I understand correctly?

Chris posted this 15 March 2019

Hey CD,

I agree, yes there is an element description!

I am not convinced Graham's MIT was in Saturation. I think maybe close, but the problem I see is, if he was in Saturation, the Voltage and Current Waveforms would not be 90 Degrees from each other:


Input Voltage ( Yellow ) and Input Current ( Blue ) would be almost in phase, not a quarter Cycle later. A Quarter Cycle is 90 Degrees and indicated the Core is not Saturated.


So, at Saturation, Inductance is lost, and an LC Resonance Tank Circuit can not be 90 degrees out of phase. The Inductor becomes a Resistive Element, because it has lost all its Inductance L.

Sorry, long winded, but my analysis, is that he is not in Saturation, but is close. I may be wrong and over looked something?

Graham has an interesting machine, yes it is directly related to this topic! But it is done in a slightly different way.

Grahams Partnered Output Coils, should be thought of as two Parallel Wires! Connected in Parallel Series! The Wires have a direct relationship to each other! At anytime the Relationship to each other were to change, so would the Magnetic Fields between them.

Remember, Current is the Magnetic Field!

If the Current between the two Parallel Wires, were to be aloud to change, then there would be a full reversal, which we have seen already. Why a full reversal in Current? Because it must be Equal and Opposite, Faradays Law of Induction with Lenz's Law states this!

This Change, only requires a change is the flow of Current, which is a Conduction related issue!

Break up all the parts of the Cycles seen:


The Area marked in Red is standard Transformer Induction, there is no indication of any overly unusual activity in this region. This region is the Half Cycle, it could be thought of as a negative DC half of the AC Cycle. Power here from Input to Output is Transformer Induction, with losses. The power would look like this:


Marked in Yellow.

Now, marked in Green, the active part of the Action comes:


The power would normally look like this:



Marked in Green. Now we must carefully analyze this, because we only have half of the Power expected, we have a specifically arranged interruption in Conduction at Peak Current, or very close to it.


The Switch:

Important: The Green Trace is the Output Current shown on only One wire:


At the point of the switch:


Marked in Red, the point of the Switch! Also seen, and should be noted, the only kick in the waves seen:


Marked in White, the only kick in the waves seen. Its a negative Kick, a kick that shows a negative pressure on the Input Current ( Blue ). Also important: The Input Current, after the Switch, the amplitude increases over time!


So, what's going on?

  1. Parallel Output Wires are building in Voltage and Current, the are fully loaded up until the Switch!
  2. At or close to Peak Current, the Parallel Series Connected Coils are Interrupted, the Conduction on One Coil is Broken...
  3. What happens now? How can the Current Flip so quickly?



The Green Trace above, shown above to indicate the Positive ( Red ) and Negative ( Black ) swings in the Output Current Trace.

Seen in the middle, is the very sharp change from Positive ( Red ) to Negative ( Black ). This happens in a very short time!

The Coils have a Tension, then the Tension in one Coil is broken, via a switch. One Coil still has a tension, but the other has no current, but the other coil wants to change. The Tension in this coil can not stay where it is.

The Coil that has a broken tension, is conductive via the Mosfet's Internal Diode, but only in reverse. We know that Equal and Opposite Currents must start to flow if there is a Conduction Path! 

Question, does the Switch need to be turned back on? If so why?

Graham is using the Tension ( Voltage and Current ) on one Output Coil, to Flip the other Output Coils Polarity, to create equal and opposite Tension ( Voltage and Current ). Bucking Coils! He is using Partnered Output Coils!

Well, we have a reasonable post, nearly out of words...



P.S: Bad images, sorry, I tried to find the best I could but they are not very good for what I am trying to show.

Jagau posted this 16 March 2019

Very good analysis Chris

As can be seen everything happens when the little kick occurs, the output current (green) is then ahead of the input.

 This happens when both current go through the most negative point.

Perhaps this is due to the timing of the 2 mosfets, there must be this special timing

that makes one of the two resumes the pendulum to project the ball further? An analogy of the swing?

as if it would be the capacitor who would take the lead


Chris posted this 16 March 2019

Thanks Jagau,

I posted another post also, a second one, but deleted it because I was not happy with it. Third party Circuit analysis is not my strong point, and I only want to post what I am pretty confident about.

Part of my post was about the "timing of the two mosfets" you point out. But I am confident my last approach will confuse others and make this harder to grasp.

One day, I believe, we will grasp so much more, Just Voltage and Just Current, the relationships of them, I believe is a small part of the Story.


Let me try again:


My Friends,

In the Terminals of the Left Partnered Output Coil:



Using the High Voltage Probe across the Left Partnered Output Coils Terminals, shown above, gives this Waveform:



Conduction is Broken for a very short time! Graham said around One Millionth of a second in the video? We have seen the Flip in Output Current on the Output from the Right side Partnered Output Coil:



The Same Time Base is used on the Scope. Note: M = 4μs

I guess, what I am trying to show here, is the Delay in Conduction of Graham Gunderson's Partnered Output Coils! His has done very much more like we saw here. The MEG, a  little different, I showed a slightly different way again here.

At the end of the day, its all a Delay in Conduction all achieving the same end result: Magnetic Resonance.


Chris posted this 18 March 2019

My Friends,

Delayed Conduction is a very easy way to control the Partnered Output Coils, sensitive to Electric Fields at Time t.

You will notice, The Partnered Output Coils Delayed Conduction Stage is always at a single point:



In the Area of Power if Voltage and Current are 90 degrees out of Phase, Current Lagging, is a very important place to keep in mind! All machines I have studied have used this area in one fashion or another, Kapandze, the Spark fires at the peak of the Wave, same place. Through a short thick Copper Coil. This interruption in Conduction, Delayed Conduction, is critical.

This Thread shows some circuits, but there is a little fiddling with what actually works. Frequency, Amplitude, Timing, but, the most important thing is: You know now, what to look for!


Chris posted this 18 March 2019

My Friends,

For the GOOD in the World!

I want to let you ponder something. Its an important ponderance! Especially in this situation! The Time Bases are all the same:



Graham Gunderson's Left Side Partnered Output Coil was connected permanently to the Load, Capacitors and Globe:


For the entire time, between the Red markers! The Red markers indicate Off Time! Thus the Voltage Spike! Almost 700 volts. The Bottom Purple Line between the Red markers, is 9 Volts on the Capacitors, Conduction, Connected to the Output!

Connection interruption also seen here:


A big pixelated mess, but it can ne seen!

@CD - You asked, I wanted to point out, some huge things there for the ones that can see the coming problems!

Question: How did Graham make the Right Side Partnered Output Coil always show the same polarity flip in Current? Why does the Current not Flip the other way sporadically?


Chris posted this 18 March 2019

My Friends,

A little speculation with a little evidence:

I believe Graham Gunderson was using Step Switching on the Partnered Output Coils - What Do I Mean?

Two Output Coils, Two Mosfets on the Output. One Mosfet for Each Coil.

In the closeup I showed:



We see evidence for something which Graham did draw for Reiyuki, who kindly shared all his images. He was present at the conference and took lots of fantastic Images while there, he also asked Graham lots of questions. One Image is shown:


With another Image verifying this image:



My Question:

Question: How did Graham make the Right Side Partnered Output Coil always show the same polarity flip in Current? Why does the Current not Flip the other way sporadically?


This is achieved by Step Switching the Output Mosfets as I have just shown. You will only find this information here! Other forums have tied this timing to the Input.


Jagau posted this 18 March 2019

Hello Chris
I was away the last 3 days.
I take the time to study where we are.
This is a very interesting subject.

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Chris posted this 18 March 2019

My Friends,

@Jagau - Hope you had a good time! It is an interesting subject!


It is worth noting, The MEG has this exact same Process, One Coil Conducts, then the other, Slapping Together. The setup I showed you also. This process is simply How Hard and How Fast the Waves can Slap Together:




Thus the title of this Thread: Delayed Conduction in Bucking Coils.

There is a pattern, and the pattern is always the same, the Partnered Output Coils must Buck, the Coils must be made to Buck, normally they would not as shown in the thread: Parallel Wire or Bifilar Coil Experiment, and the Currents are always equal and opposite! Methods to make this occur can vary as we have seen on this thread!

No other forum on the internet, as far as I am aware, shows you any of these techniques! This information is new, especially in such detail! Some, a select few, I believe, have known about this for a long time.


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Jagau posted this 18 March 2019

Just a Chris question before going any further.
Is this scheme provided by Gunderson?

If yes this schema on the right is an IGBT not a mosfet.
And again the reverse diode is when the voltage goes from + to - is to increase the closing speed of the IGBT (+20 to -20 volts)

i mean diode between gate and emitter of IGBT

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Chris posted this 18 March 2019

Hey Jagau,

Apparently drawn by Graham at the Conference for Reiyuki. 

Graham drew the same diagram here:


He used the term Mosfet in the video.

Hope this helps some.


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