Floyd Sweet VTA magnet conditioning process...

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Prometheus posted this 2 weeks ago

Hi, all. First post.

I've been researching COP>1 devices which align with the tenets of QM for awhile now. I've come up with 4 devices which don't violate any laws of physics, although life does tend to interfere with getting them completed. "Life" in this context constitutes time constraints; and my wife and kids tending to take over my area of the garage and clutter it up to the point I don't have room to turn around, let alone get any work done.

Anyway, in regards to Floyd Sweet's VTA and the process of conditioning the magnets...

... could it be that one isn't really knocking the magnetism down to the claimed 30-40 Gauss described in the video above, but what one is really doing is creating small areas of domains which are aligned with the intersections of the B and C windings such that these described "bubbles" are really domains canted in the direction of these intersections?

Sort of like this (but in 3D):

  O (intersection of B and C windings)
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Chris posted this 2 weeks ago

Hi and welcome Prometheus!

Many years I have spent on the VTA! Many tall tales I have investigated!

The Conditioning of the Permanent Magnets in the VTA was fake! A Ruse, a Red Herring a Smoke Screen to throw people off what Floyd Sweet was really doing. Yes I have a lot of proof to support this statement.

This image is one such proof:


Knowing and understanding what the Magnetic Field requirements to make all blades stand as they are, is impossible to do. with Magnets that have anything but a First Class Magnetic Field!

John Bedini admitted Magnet Conditioning was a Red Herring!


A stunning show of Body Language!


I do not wish to derail others work however, so if you have a path of investigation in this area, then decision is entirely yours!

I suggest an in-depth research of all papers and notes I have on my website: Floyd Sparky Sweet

If you read carefully, Floyd Sweet does say what he was doing and not a single mention of MAGIC or Voo-Doo Huhaa. Floyd Sweet was a Man of Science, a man of Logic, he tells us that Electromagnetic Induction is used to "Generate" Energy as a rational mind would expect. Please think twice before you waste your time and money running down irrational Rabbit Holes that some have laid as a trap!

The Mr Preva Experiment is as close to what Floyd Sweet was doing without giving you a 100 page book on the technology!

I feel for you, yes, Life does get busy these days! A work area is hard to keep functional at times.

Welcome to our Forum and the best bunch of people the Energy Research Community has to offer!


cd_sharp posted this 2 weeks ago

Welcome, Prometheus!

is creating small areas of domains which are aligned with the intersections of the B and C windings such that these described "bubbles" are really domains canted in the direction of these intersections?

I've seen all the available photos and video from Floyd's home. He had regular equipment, nothing to suggest he can do a precision "surgery" on a magnet, if that is even possible.

A long time ago I came across this effect:

and I've seen that it diverts all the input current through the coil inside the magnets field. This is a property of the area between the magnets. I made a coil having a larger area, but inside the field the effect is still there.

Also, if the magnets don't have a greater area than the core, there is no effect.

I'm still searching for an explanation.

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Chris posted this 2 weeks ago


Is that the one where the windings are the same as the Tesla Bifilar series?



We did discuss briefly, but I cant remember the diagram on this one.


cd_sharp posted this 2 weeks ago

This is it from what I remember:

I think I tried making L1 a Tesla bifilar and it worked better. I never got it to "generate" current. It was always stuck to unity or under, depending on the number of turns in L2 and the load.

Too few turns in L2 and it doesn't do anything, too many of them and the load gives less light. There is an optimal number of turns for which most of the input current goes to the load.

The voltage trace is not affected by the magnets, it's just enhanced.

If you have an explanation, I'm all eyes and ears.


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cd_sharp posted this 2 weeks ago

I forgot to mention, both cores have to be open ended. L1 can have an air core, but L2 needs a ferromagnetic core.

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Chris posted this 2 weeks ago


There is great value in what you have shared! It does not take a trained eye to see this! I have said before, some of the cheapest simplest experiments hold the greatest value!

You should start an individual thread for this and give this effect a Name!

Where Voltage increases, under the right conditions, Current I can also because I = V / R.

By any chance, have you read all Floyd Sweets Papers?


cd_sharp posted this 2 weeks ago

I plan to investigate.

By any chance, have you read all Floyd Sweets Papers?

I guess so, but I can't say I understood most of his ideas. I am very impressed by "Nothing is something". Almost every sentence in that paper deserves attention and investigation.

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Chris posted this 2 weeks ago

Hey CD,

Floyd Sweets Papers are a very beneficial read, I managed to get a really good handle on Floyds Thought Processes, how he worked, and what his Goals were.

Floyd Sweet's paper, The Space-Flux Coupled Alternator is perhaps one of the best ones! This paper was pre VTA, but its not hard to see the same basic principles were used and applied to the Static Device, the VTA.

Plain and simple for all readers: Floyd Sweet took Electromagnetic Induction and stepped it up a level. Applying very simple concepts from other areas of Science!

The feedback loop: Previously mentioned, you will more clearly see how the loop functions at the time you see the physical construction of the stationary armature of stator assembly.

The underlying principal (forget Millikan’s experiment) has been derived in that magnetic effects vary on the square of the current. As the load on the machine increases, the volt-ampere product increases. The rate of flow of charges increases. Quantum mechanics state not all electrons in copper are free to carry charges. Then it’s time to set the wheels in motion to free them from binding magnetic forces.

Once this is done, conductivity will improve and resistance decrease as we are dealing only with electrons. Copper will not change to another metal as atoms which are mostly empty space would have many electrons to spare anyway. To free enough electrons to effect conversion would require magnetic forces approaching infinity.

An illustration will help to clarify how the feedback principal counters the magnetic force binding the electrons in orbits, restraining them from motion as charged particles in the form of an electric current.


Easy to understand and absorb, Standard Science, now compare this to the Nothing is Something paper:

The fundamental magnets have been broken free of their binding forces which constrained them to be steady-state single pole uniform magnetic flux devices. They are now able to simply support mass, as demonstrated with the transformer steel illustration. They can now easily be made to adopt a dynamic motional field by applying a tiny amount of excitation. Specifically, 10V @ 1 mA (10 mW) of excitation at 60 Hz. will enable the coils of the triode to receive from the Dirac Sea in excess of 5000 watts of usable negative energy; how much more can safely be removed has not yet been determined.


I know what statements I would put my money on! The Magnets were not broken free of binding forces, the Electrons in the Atoms inside the Copper Coils inside the VTA were!

We saw a lot of Lies, a lot of fake storeys at the end of the VTA development and the same process is seen else where on other machines by other people! Akula, shared good data at the start, then as time went on it got vaguer and vaguer!

Sticking to Real Provable Science will never steer us wrong!

Electromagnetic Induction can never occur even if a dynamic motional field were to be achieved on the magnets:


So, a warning to all   ---   Don't be fooled by Voo-Doo Science that can easily be proven fake!


Prometheus posted this 1 weeks ago

Hi, Chris and cd_sharp. Thank you for your comments.

My initial thinking was that which was explicated in the video you provided, that a uniform magnetic field would not induce a current unless a differential of the magnetic flux across the coil was present over time. So a non-conditioned magnet wouldn't work.

Floyd Sweet VTA coils

So I got to thinking about the underlying mechanics of the right-angle B and C coils and their effects upon the magnetic domains in the permanent magnet during conditioning (as described by the presenter in the video of my original post).

The A coil would provide a 'bias' to the permanent magnet's magnetic field so complete demagnetization of the permanent magnet wouldn't occur during conditioning. It's been said that the voltage to the B and C coils must be initiated at the exact moment that the 60Hz AC waveform of the A coil peaks.

The B and C coils (in electrical parallel and at right-angles to each other) would 'cant' the domains within the permanent magnet, thereby focusing the magnetic flux at those points where the B and C coils intersect, in a three-dimensional shape for each intersection (so the domains would look somewhat like a cone).

In this way, one breaks up the uniform magnetic field of a non-conditioned magnet into a plethora of smaller 'flux points'. The small size of each 'flux point' means there is inherently a flux differential across the wire in the B and C coils any time the 'flux points' undergo translation (movement) by even a small amount.

The canting of the domains focuses the magnetic flux at each intersection of the wires of the B and C coils, giving a strong magnetic field at each 'flux point' without adversely affecting the magnet's internal energy (and thereby forcing it to unpin and flip some domains to minimize the magnet's internal energy).

The cone shape of the canted domains means that each 'flux point' is emitting magnetic flux which is positionally unstable and thus easily translated (moved).

In this way, one achieves a high magnetic flux right at the exact points where it is needed to induce current flow, and the ability to easily shift that flux with a very small input.

So in effect, Floyd Sweet created a version of a Beardon or Gunderson or Flynn Motional-EMF generator, but with a plethora of very tiny 'flux points' all focusing magnetic flux onto the coil wire. This might be why Sweet's device was so persnickety... move the wires even a tiny bit (and they'd constantly be trying to move under the magnetic forces anyway, so they'd have to literally be glued in place) and everything is thrown out of alignment, requiring reconditioning.

That's my theory, anyway...

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Chris posted this 1 weeks ago


Understand and follow your idea. I have my opinions on this and have explained that I do not wish to divert yours or anyone else's path of investigation!

So, for this reason, I leave you and let you carry on with your investigations.


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