Simulations In 4-Space

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dale morgan posted this 04 April 2020

Hello everyone,  is a site loaded with all sorts of simulations. Unfortunately they are no longer downloadable. The sims are in Java Script so I think everyone should be able to run them. I do have actual experimental units but I'm not ready yet. It's in the pipeline as they say.

Have a glorious day!


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Vidura posted this 05 April 2020

Hey, dale morgan. Although sometimes simulation can be useful for conventional EE, it comes almost certainly to its limits when phenomenons involved in AU are the target. As the software is based on faulty or incomplete laws and formulas it is quite useless in this case. Just try to simulate a one wire transmission, or the BEMF of a noninductive coil, you will find the impossibility, while simple practical experience will show a completely different result. Maybe in the future simulation software will be updated to cover a broader range of EM, But anyway, If you have some hardware I would encourage to use it, starting with simple experiments, there is no substitute for direct experience, really. Regards Vidura

dale morgan posted this 06 April 2020

Hello Vidura,

The simulations aren't meant to give exact answers. That is what we are trying to do. They are useful to visualize the shapes of different arraignments and have no specific exact answers. They are completely adjustable. If you use the charged rings in opposition sim and get the parameters adjusted correctly you will see it self pump. The architecture has to be correct, just as in nature. A charged ring pair is an analog of coils butted up against each other. Opposed coils

If you would like to see single wire transmission check out Borderlands. The LW Wave video.

I have experiments... just can't  get them out yet. Life happens all the time, sometimes too much!

Have a good day, Dale

Chris posted this 06 April 2020

Hey Dale,

We have other simulation threads and have been through the same stuff. We are very confident the Simulation Software is not complete enough to accurately Simulate what we are doing.

Simulation is flawed, and EM Theory behind the Simulations is incomplete.

Best wishes,


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dale morgan posted this 06 April 2020

Hey Chris,

No problem at all. Just trying to be helpful. Please go ahead and delete it when you see this. I meant no harm.

Still a good day,


Chris posted this 06 April 2020

Hey Dale,

My Friend, you are always helpful! I thank You for that! I was just letting you know we have covered Sim. I am more than happy if you want to keep it going and show where we may have missed something in the past?

Best wishes,


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dale morgan posted this 06 April 2020

Hello Chris,


I know that I don't know all of what the group has been doing. So far I haven't seen much about simulation software, that I recall... I just looked around where I thought it might be found, but no joy.

My perspective is quite different than most, thus I know I can be irritating at times. I don't try to be. Generally when I read stuff, relevant info pops into my brain like the site I spoke of above.

I'd like to say more to the group, but it's useless to do so without the unit to show to everyone physically. In the somewhat near future I hope to be able to explain the dynamics of the theories that this effort is standing on by demonstration with devices that exhist in physical reality. At this time, first off I would like to show the separation of curled and uncurled magnetic vector potential A. That's is my plan. To peek behind the curtain so to speak.

I really don't want to be disruptive of the experiments under way. Right now I wish I hadn't re-found the HYIQ site. It is too early because I don't have my stuff unpacked yet. I'm probably over eager to help as I believe that society is going to become unstable, not real soon but on the way. Some want that, most don't. Like yourself I want to spread the word such that anyone can understand and build their own units. Be independent and free...

A good day,





Chris posted this 06 April 2020

Hey Dale,

Your'e not disruptive! 

The DUT's we are working on, all seem to stem from the same basic principles. Many ways exist to get to the same result, of course, Energy is Energy, a Coin has only two faces, Voltage and Current are the Goal.

We have: 

For every Action there is an equal and opposite Reaction and for every Reaction there is an equal and opposite Counter-Reaction.


In Science, we currently miss and do not take advantage of the: Counter-Reaction.

We need to! This part is important.

Best wishes,


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dale morgan posted this 06 April 2020

It's OK Chris,

I'm still in. In my mind I'm having trouble finding my niche to fit into the group. Theory and applied physics are what I feel most comfortable with. Pure, raw, experimentation is my excitement! As you say, in different words, there's more than one way to skin dinner. I'm giving cats a break this time.laughing

You're right, all of the devices stem from the same principals. They have to! Elsewise the base principles have not been found. I'm sure that they have been.  At the very least we've gone more than deep enough to satisfy our needs to fulfil our quest.

I read the latest posts most every morning and have read all of them I think. Been working on the sidebar items which appear to much the same as the threads. A few new experimental items have come to mind, triggered by a few of the threads. A phrase here, a comment or question there. I wish my old computer had not taken a giant dump!

If allowed, I will modify the title of this thread while still retaining the primary name as a place holder.

Have a good day my friend!




Zanzal posted this 07 April 2020

At this time, first off I would like to show the separation of curled and uncurled magnetic vector potential A. That's is my plan. To peek behind the curtain so to speak.

I'd like to hear more about this.

dale morgan posted this 07 April 2020

Hello Zanzal,

OK then. This is pretty straight forward but not totally obvious.

non diverged Heavyside flow

This graphic shows the two Magnetic Vector Potentials. Heavyside stated that as much as 1013 times as much energy misses the coil as is diverged into the coil. Poynting has stated that it is curious that the energy enters the wire from the side, not from the ends. As is shown above. It's in one of Bearden's papers, I can't say which one right now as I'm shooting from the hip here.

There was a Scientific 'war' going on at the time and everyone was very cautious about what they said. Dirac was in the process of being destroyed out of the group of elites in the scientific community at the time. Nobody wanted to stand out then so Heavyside didn't push it lest he be cast out like Dirac was. The Classical group won of course.

Onward... The Magnetic Vector Potentials, curled(Poynting) and uncurled(Heavyside) are mixed together as a normal situation. Normally the uncurled is hidden by the curled and prevents the uncurled from being collected into the coil. To free the uncurled, the Acu (curled) must be contained to give access to the Aun (uncurled). Bearden has a few different graphics showing this. I really wish my stuff was set up so I could give the actual references. The MEG does this very well by placing the poles of the magnet tightly against the core. However there is still some leakage because there is still a small air gap in the assembly. Whether this makes a big difference or not is unknown but probably not much.

With all of this in mind I made a different type of transformer where magnets were buried in the center leg of a layered core. There is no B field outside of the core at all, no leakage. A needle hanging by a thread will not deflect when held near the core, a hairs width from it or even touching, the needle is not held to the core anywhere. So now the  Aun is free from obstruction and is easily collected into a coil. I'm not going to discuss all of the details of the unit at this time without a picture or video to show. Operation is with a small tickler coil and an output coil as is normal. The output showed two sine waves, nice ones, about 8 or 9 degrees offset. [At the time I only had an automotive 'O' scope with 20 volts max so a 2 volt input was the maximum to see the entire wave. It would only show the wave with basically no other information available. I can tell you that I used a train transformer to for power, 12v max. Don't know what the amps were either. To get pulses into the input coil I passed the supply through a slot car motor, DC, then to the unit. The commutator broke the flow into pulses. The higher the voltage, the higher the frequency.  I was working with stone knives and bear skins then. That is going to be different when my setup is complete this time.]

There should not have been 2 sine waves from a single output coil with a single input. Both waves were on the same single wire. Heavyside said 1013 as much more energy available and I believe it. Why? Because I melted down my third volt meter with it. At around 9 volts the guts of the meter were vaporized and deposited on the inside of the case. As though it had been plated... Knowing the meter was trashed I went ahead and cranked it up to 12v. A very dramatic display. There is no way an output like that could be gotten from a lowly 9v on a core by itself. The unit is smaller than a coffee cup.

The point of all this is the B field was contained within the laminations of the core. Alternating the direction of E and I sealed off any seams which may have existed if the normal assembly method had been used. The magnets were totally incased with zero gaps. The coils were pre-assembled on a sized form and the cores inserted into the coil. I glued that one together but the second one was not so it can be taken apart to show it.

To me this seems to be a poor explanation as there are no pictures and the rest of the story has not been told, yet. I'll go through this again properly with an actual demonstration to go with it. I think this is an important step on the path. The B field loves iron and will stay within it if possible. Tesla once said that putting iron in an electric motor is counter productive to it's efficiency. I believe Tesla. However in this case it's very helpful.

I hope this is of use to you Zanzal. As I said, not difficult but not obvious either. Another thought which may be helpful is that we don't 'generate', (which implies creation), electricity. We collect it, all of it, from the virtual particle flux that we are immersed in.

Have a smooth day,






Zanzal posted this 07 April 2020

Thanks Dale. I think Bearden had some very interesting ideas.

From Bearden (Engineering the Active Vacuum):

Today, particularly since the advent of quantum electrodynamics, it is the potentials that are real and primary and the fields are only changes in the potentials. Hence it is more proper to consider equation [1] as a definition of the B-field, where

B ≡ ∇ ×A [2]

In short, B is just a curled A-potential. Indeed, it may be a curled component of an overall
A-potential, where the overall A-potential has multiple field components (multiple kinds of changes ongoing simultaneously). As an example, it is well-known that an E-field will be produced by a non-zero time rate of change dA/dt of the vector potential A, whether A is curled or curl-free. The A-potential and its energy can provide a magnetic field B as in equation [2] by curling (swirling) its spatial energy density, and it can provide an electric field E with its time rate of change even when not curling (swirling). Since the gradient ∇Φ of an electrostatic scalar potential Φ is also an E-field, then

E = -∇Φ - dA/dt [3]

As shown by equation [3], the gradient ∇Φ of the electrostatic scalar potential Φ provides an E-field with its own continuous E-field energy flow,1 as does the time rate of change dA/dt of the magnetic vector potential A. The total E-field (and E-field energy) in a given situation thus can depend on (i) a change to the electrostatic scalar potential Φ, or (ii) a perturbation of the magnetic vector potential A, or (iii) both simultaneously.

1 Any EM field or potential – including the “static” ones – mathematically decomposes into sets of ongoing longitudinal EM wave energy flows, as shown by E. T. Whittaker in 1903 and 1904.

I am currently hyper focused on using this method:

(i) a change to the electrostatic scalar potential Φ,

By changing the voltage of a conductor I was able to determine that doing this seems to excite the field around the wire. That field seems to give rise to cause under certain instances electrons to gain momentum, which I guess is to be expected as we're told that electrons in an electric field experience a force. Since giving electrons motion is imparting energy it seems that the above process must require input energy, but from what I can tell that is just because the electronics used to produce the right conditions need some energy to function, and it is difficult to create the necessary conditions without expending more energy than gained in the process. Or in cases when using a higher source potential, the components would break down under the high voltages used. I've had some success at the core concept, but at the scale of my experiments the returns are small leaving little net gain (mW) and a lot of uncertainty as a result. The trick may be to find entirely passive methods of operations to achieve the right conditions.

Anyway it sounds to me like you have figured out the other side of the equation:

(ii) a perturbation of the magnetic vector potential A

In fact most of the work on the site by others seems to be along these lines. I've struggled a little bit, but there were a lot of advances here in the last year that I have yet to go back and look at. I was in a similar situation with all my things boxed up, but I'm starting to get back to experimenting. You'll get there and it sounds like you have very interesting work to share.

Personally I've learned a lot from Falstad's circuit simulator. There are interesting effects that do appear in those simulations as they are a natural consequence of the equations. I've personally verified at least one useful effect, conservation of electron momentum due to inductance, and there is another even more strange that I wish I had more time to investigate (I don't know if its real or just a simulation glitch). As Vidura points out, some really important effects do not show. IMO there is no right or wrong on using simulations to research. Its another tool that has pluses and minuses. Though if anyone does manage to get the effect shown by Chris' non-inductive coil experiment to appear in a simulation due to mutual inductance I'd be very happy to see it. I was able to get one of his to show (double pulse), but it became clear to me there were significant limitations.

Chris posted this 07 April 2020

Dale, Zanzal - 100% spot on! Nice!

Best wishes,


dale morgan posted this 08 April 2020

Hello Guys,

Thank you Zanzal and Chris!

Just now it occurred to me to look at the special character pull down and the symbols for curled and uncurled 'A' are in there. Still learning my way around....

There is still more explanation of the above graphic to go but I gave what I thought you were after Zanzal. Very glad to be able to help you with it.

Yes, I do have some 'strange' units to share. A long time ago I burned my Box in the back yard and never looked back. Here at home the only person I can talk to about this stuff is my brother. The school system in this country has been dumbed down by about 50% in the sciences and math. That happened right after I graduated High School. So I taught my brother what they weren't teaching any more. It's a sad state of affairs and it's coming back around to bite them in the nads. Currently it takes the first two years of college to learn what I was taught in High School... Very sad indeed.

I'm more than happy to share and help where I can Chris. Right now I'm a bit like a one legged man in a butt kicking contest. Not being able to show my physical units yet makes it a little harder to build a picture in someone's mind. Humans are very visual by nature. It's the very first thing we do after being born.

Have a glorious day,






dale morgan posted this 09 April 2020

Hello all,

I ran across this years ago.

I never got the chance to make one back then but will be playing with it before long. As it is presented, it will separate voltage and current. That could be very handy...

A good day to all,


dale morgan posted this 10 April 2020

Hello everyone,

I changed the title of the thread a bit to more reflect what is being attempted with it.  I'm off to a slow start obviously, but that will change hopefully. To be honest, I'm surprised at the number of people that have taken a look at or read it. Just being myself, seeking a purposeful life and having fun doing it.


thaelin posted this 10 April 2020

Hi Dale:

   It was actually very refreshing to re-read that paper. I found it had a bit more meaning now than it did back when. One should never underestimate the value of a capacitor. The outcome may well fuddle you.

   Tesla himself said that capacitors were a very unique thing.

Keep searching for the truth and knowledge, if it does not feel right, question it. Do not be afraid to ask the forbidden questions. I did, and got quite a few raised eye brows but so what.



dale morgan posted this 11 April 2020

Hello Thaelin,

Yes, I too got more out of it when read again after the passage of time. We read sooo much that at times it blurs together. It does for me at least. The C-Stack has generated two different experiments for me to try.

In the reference section of one of Bearden's papers had a book he highly recommended so I bought it. Just reading the Contents blew my mind. Handbook of Magnetic Phenomena by Harry E. Burke in 1986. Got the last one that Amazon had. The reading of it is only just begun. Looks like it's going to be fantastic. Re-reading things can be helpful...

Have a good day,



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baerndorfer posted this 12 April 2020

hello Dale!

just played around with this falstad-thing and found interesting applets there. thank you for the link!

Loop Pair

Loop Pair Opposed

Loop Pair Stacked

Loop Pair Stacked Opposed

have a nice day!

dale morgan posted this 12 April 2020


Hello Baerndorfer,

It can be a lot of fun to play with the applets. Have you tried looking at it in particles instead of the field lines? That will let you see the motion that is going on. Pretty neat to watch it. It takes a bit of time for it to stabilize into the new pattern after the configuration is changed.  Even without giving figures on outputs I find it to be a good thinking tool for the architecture, structure, of what it going on. I'm glad you can get some enjoyment out of it.

Have a fine day,


dale morgan posted this 25 April 2020


Just in case someone may not have seen it.

Have a good day,


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