Some Coils Buck and some Coils DONT

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Chris posted this 18 September 2017

In the document I published: Guidelines to Bucking Coils, I outline several configurations of Coils that work as Bucking Coils. There is a reason I did this, because other Configurations, do not work as Bucking Coils! At least not as well as the main configurations!

This is the reason for this Thread!

This is a partial continuation of the Thread: Steps to Avoid Failure

I said some time back, on, in a conversation with Bradley (Tinman):

Importantly, each Coil is drawn, as a parallel Connection to each other, with a Diode, a Switch, and a mysterious "Shorting" Circuit drawn in a single square box. This is shown by Point A and Point B in the below schematic. There is a secret here that only those that have followed and read what I have said will know, so, all Single Pole Electric Motors may not work for this reason!

EMJunkie (Me, Chris) - Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy


Bradley replied with a bit long post: (Part Post Quote)

Im not sure what your reason is,but it is true that not all universal motors will work straight up. Some may require that the coils be rewound on the stator-->as in the case of my larger universal motor.

Tinman (Bradley Richard Atherton) - Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

 In my years of learning, some Coils Buck and some Coils don't! This is due to the configuration of the Coils!

This is another reason why The Mr Preva Experiment is so important!

One way that does not work, is, take two pieces of wire and wind then Parallel, Bi-Filar, side by side, in the same direction.

In the same fashion, the Coils shown below, do not work: ( At least I have not had any luck with this configuration )


These Coils are identical, the same type of coils measured to be the same Inductance and also have the same turns.

These Coils are placed axially in the same direction with the turns in the same direction, on the Core. Seen in the above picture.


What Does Work

The Core has a Magnetic Field Polarity, an A Vector Potential Polarity, and the Direction of Velocity of the said Polarities. What does this look like?

An Image I have been showing for many years now! You can see, the letter "A" is the A Vector Potential, it has a Curl and a Polarity of the Curl. I have called this a Spin Direction. Also there is a North Pole Polarity and a South Pole Polarity. My Research has led me to believe there is a Bloch Wall, sometimes referred to as the Equator.

Using this information, we can now start to use this to improve Winding Direction and Placements.


Configuration One

Two Identical Coils, one flipped over from the other relative to the Axis of the Core:


Configuration Two

One Coil wound Clockwise, and one Coil wound Counter Clockwise relative to the Core:


Both of the above Configurations have pros and cons! Each are good but not one is specifically preferred, but can have advantages independently of the other.



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Chris posted this 19 September 2017

So, lets Experiment:

Take the following basic circuit, and test the Coils above:

 Some may see a similarity here to the Akula Circuit and also The Mr Preva Experiment Circuit.

 My below experiments are for guidance only and are not conclusive!


  • Polarity One: is in Bucking Mode, the round Current peak on the Red Channel is an indication of the Bucking!
  • Polarity Two: Non Bucking Mode, the Magnetic Fields are not opposing. Impedance is seen by the Source (10V Input) and as a result we see a Voltage drop on the Input and a little more Current used.
  • We would normally see the Currents 180 Degrees out of Phase from Red Channel to Yellow Channel. The Diodes are forcing the Current to flow in one Direction.


Bucking does not Work - Experiment:

This experiment investigates two identical Coils, both in the same winding direction relative to the Core, utilising both Polarity's on one Coil only (Closest to the reader):


Polarity One:


Polarity Two:


Bucking does Work - Cfg One - Experiment

This experiment investigates two identical Coils, one Coil flipped over relative to the Core, utilising both Polarity's on one Coil only (Closest to the reader):

Polarity One:


Polarity Two:


Bucking does Work - Cfg Two - Experiment

This experiment investigates two identical Coils, one Coil wound Clockwise relative to the Core and the other Coil is wound Counter Clockwise relative to the Core, utilising both Polarity's on one Coil only (Closest to the reader):


Polarity One:


Polarity Two:



A lot can be gained by examining the results!


Chris posted this 19 September 2017

The conclusions gained from the above Experiments are quite astounding when realised!

Electromagnetic Induction occurring with absolutely no extra impedance on the Input! Twice in the one System!

No parameters were changed other than the Coils during this set of experiments. But, we see quite different results!

In this particular Circuit, Configuration Two in bucking mode appears to be the most beneficial! CW/CCW Coils.

  • 0.680 volts RMS
  • 192.1 ma mean
  • 196.4 ma mean

Compared to where Bucking does not Work, not very well anyway:

  • 0.587 volts RMS
  • 55.18 ma mean
  • -19.97 ma mean

and the next best configuration after Configuration Two, Configuration One:

  • 0.624 volts RMS
  • 150.9 ma mean
  • 172.2 ma mean

We see a Voltage Drop, same as we get in The Mr Preva Experiment! This Voltage Drop indicates several things, and needs some attention!

It is worth noting, many Circuit improvements could be made, E.G: Positive Feed Back. I have not made any optimisations at all here.


Chris posted this 03 October 2017

I am really surprised more interest has not been shown here! 12 views in 2 weeks.

This is perhaps one of the most important articles I have ever written, with work shown and with lots of pictures to show important points.

This work and the Circuit is almost exactly the same as the Andrey Melnichenko's GLED and Akula Works! Also as Ruslan's "Flashlight without batteries" (Фонарик без батареек) shown below! I am very surprised more interest has not been shown!



Any ideas on how to make this more interesting?


Chris posted this 04 October 2017

I guess the point is, just putting a few coils on a Bobbin and trying to make it work, is very clearly not a good way to go about these experiments!

A detailed set of experiments to see why some coils work and some don't will be necessary!

For example, my above experiments confirm what we already know! Akula shows this exact same ideal Coil Configuration: CW/CCW


Electrical Energy is "Generated" and a 187 year old Law tells us how this is done! Faradays Law of Electromagnetic Induction!

Transformers are not Above Unity simply because there is a One to One Energy Transformation, a Symmetrical System, but we know, for sure, the System must be Asymmetrical! Many hundreds o Devices through out history have shown us this!

A small Pulse invokes a Large Induction, I show Non-Conventional Inductive results in my Experiment above! 


Chris posted this 05 October 2017

For those following, we see some very interesting results for the Current Wave Forms...

Remember, Current is the Magnetic Field, Changing in Time!

The base Frequency and the Duty Cycle was not changed during my experiments!

  • 82.29 Hz
  • 50% Duty Cycle.

So, in an Electronic Circuit, the Applied Voltage is something like this:

However, we see a big difference between the Time Constants in the Coil Configurations! A massive difference in point of fact!

A typical Time Constant looks something like this:


  • Blue Trace is the Applied Voltage across the Inductor.
  • Brown is the Current, Ramping up as the Voltage Applied (On), and Current Ramps down as Voltage is not Applied (Off). This is where we normally see a Voltage Spike: Flyback. We see this Ramp Down on the Yellow Wave Form.


From fastest to slowest:

Note: Red Trace is the Current Trace we are looking at. 

Bucking does not Work - Experiment:

This experiment investigates two identical Coils, both in the same winding direction relative to the Core, utilising both Polarity's on one Coil only (Closest to the reader):


Bucking does Work - Cfg One - Experiment

This experiment investigates two identical Coils, one Coil flipped over relative to the Core, utilising both Polarity's on one Coil only (Closest to the reader):


Bucking does Work - Cfg Two - Experiment

This experiment investigates two identical Coils, one Coil wound Clockwise relative to the Core and the other Coil is wound Counter Clockwise relative to the Core, utilising both Polarity's on one Coil only (Closest to the reader):


In this last scope Shot, Cfg Two, we can see that the Current is still High and the Switching is kicking back in again! You can see, the Generation of Electrical Energy, by Opposing Coil Configurations, is cut off by the Switching back in of the Applied Voltage, at a 50% Duty Cycle.


  • This is a super important fact to see! It is critical to understand the importance here!


  • This is all occurring with absolutely no cost on the Input, the Input is not affected, loaded, in anyway at all here!!! 


So, a way to keep the Electromagnetic Induction going longer, is to reduce the Duty Cycle. Down, shorter in time, so there is more Off Time, and the Coils can Interact together, over a longer time.

Don't forget, Voltage is the Number of Turns (N) in the Proximity of a Changing Magnetic Field. E.M.F = -NdPhi/dt


Wistiti posted this 05 October 2017

really interesting my friend!!!!!

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Chris posted this 05 October 2017

The Cycle of Action:

1: The Input is switched on, Voltage is applied across an Inductor, the Current Ramps up according to the RL Time Constant:


2: The Input is switched Off. At this point we have a Magnetic Field inside the Core. The only Cost to us is I2R Losses.


3: The Magnetic Field starts collapsing, a Magnetic Field Changing in Time is one requirement for Electromagnetic Induction, Inductive kick back, and the Current Ramps Down according to the RL Time Constant: Shown as the Decay Phase.


4: Because we are smart and wish to build Asymmetrical Systems, we have another Coil, a second output Coil, and this Coil is also subject to the same Electromagnetic Laws that the First Coil is. As a result, we get a different Waveform, indicating an almost half sinusoidal waveform, showing that Electromagnetic Induction can occur more than once is a single System! Asymmetric Electromagnetic Induction!

So, in this experiment, we see a Timing Cycle some what resembling the following:



  • First, Top Red Trace indicates the Switch On, the Voltage applied across the Inductor.
  • Second Red Trace is the Current from Electromagnetic Induction in the Second Coil.
  • Third Yellow Trace is the Ramp down of Current in the first Coil due to Electromagnetic Induction.


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Chris posted this 06 October 2017

I hope those following can see the importance of experiment, documentation, and special attention not to over look the smallest things.

The reason I say this, is simply because I did for so long!

The smallest finest details can lead to the biggest descoverys, although some of this is already known in Electronics Engineering, it is still a very important feather to have under ones Hat!

We have seen much of these sorts of things before:

Fig One - Graham Gunderson - The reason for the Non Uniform Sinusoidal Wave, I explain above.


Fig Two - Akula Time Constant - The Time Phase of Energy Generation.

I hope this helps others and not confuses. I have made an extra special effort to explain the best I can with detail. But, ask, if you have questions, and I will try to help further.

Done forget, we here at http://www, or are Light Years ahead of all the other forums! So there is no need to be shy, a lot of catch up will be required if you have come from another forum.

Besides, no one here gets picked on! We are all here to help each other! Our No Trolls Aloud Policy is the Only Rule here.


devesh posted this 08 November 2017

After having received your invitation to join the community and finished reading all of the above posts of yours (just this thread), dear Chris, I can state that I am a lucky man surrounded by exceptional people: I sincerely hope to be of any help with my own experimentation.

Devesh (Fabrizio)

Chris posted this 01 February 2018


   It is time...

In the above Experiment, we can very clearly see the Time Rate of Change of the Magnetic Fields:

Remember, Current is analogous to the Magnetic Field, they are the same things, Current is also analogous to M.M.F, or Magnetomotive Force.

The below image, bottom trace in particular, is showing a Linear Time Constant, this is not consistent with the images shown above, where a Ramping Down of the Current was shown, but Why?



This is perfectly normal, this is Lenz's law, the same exact effect seen in the Magnet Falling through a Copper Tube Experiment. Lenz's Law, Equal and Opposite, a Linear Change in Time. 


This is seen as Drag in the Mechanical "Generator" and the reason, more Shaft Torque is required, on the Shaft, as the Load Increases on the "Generator". Which is why we see an Increase on the Input.

The below image is showing a totally different situation! The bottom Yellow Trace shows the typical Ramp Down curve shown above in the Time Constant Images, it is a Non-Linear curve - But Why? 



What I am showing you, is:

Energy "Generation" without loading the Source Magnetic Field

The Magnetic Field is Free to move in the System, the Magnetic Field is Not Loaded, there is Zero Lenz Law Drag on the Source Magnetic Field! Everyone should be able to see this, and I am very surprised no one has commented about this!

By counter balancing the Force in the System, we have the ability to reduce our Input to only the Cost of producing the Magnetic Field in the First place.

As I have pointed out, the magnetic Fields are:

1 + -1 + 1 = 1

An Asymmetrical System! We are not consuming our Input, like a Symmetrical System: 1 + -1 = 0

This is so Important! A concept that will change the world forever!


Wistiti posted this 19 February 2018

Some coil buck and some don’t.... but when dealing with pulsing dc as input, this is what you can see... For sure we can find more! Hope you enjoy! Ps: thank you again Chris my freind for what you share!!

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Chris posted this 19 February 2018

@Wistiti - This is a beautiful example! Thank you for sharing!

@All - Please pay special attention to what Wistiti is sharing, this is so important to see and understand!


Current (I) is subject to several things:

  • Ohms Law: I = V / R
  • Magnetic Field: Core size is limited to so much Magnetic Field
  • Wire Diameter: 0.33mm wire could be replaced by 1.0mm

By increasing the Output Voltage, this, in combination should increase the total Output.

Beautiful work and thank you for sharing my friend!


Chris posted this 21 February 2018

For all watching, this Thread is based on an experiment I did way back in: April 17, 2014, at the time I already had a fair bit of experience with Partnered Output Coils publishing my first video: 18 Jul 2011 - Self Assisted Oscillation in a Shorted Coil - Bucking Magnetic Field Oscillation.

The experiment I shared partly, was shared to: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator



 As you can see. other than the diodes being shown/not shown, its almost exactly the same experiment.

What Wistiti has shown is very important, important Effects! I have always said look for the effects.

Akula, when showing his early device, also saw these effects


Very simple, the Interactions between the Coils are what "Generates" excess electrical Energy! Magnetic Fields changing in Time, Turns of the Coils, and the Circuitry, controlling the 'ON' and 'OFF' times.

But, again, don't take from your Input, your Input must not be affected by reflecting Magnetic Fields or you will only ever end up with a Transformer, and perhaps not all that good of one.

Its true, Ruslan Kulabuhov has also told you the same thing:

Now for removal:

1. The coil is connected via a diode bridge. No parallel capacitors !!!

2. You need from Tesla only one half wave. Otherwise Tesla will take what she gave, back !!!

Therefore, and put the diode from the ground to the very take-off coil (40m) The shark did this at the reception. He removed one part of the sine at the reception itself. Because Tesla. No one knows this and -bip-tsya to this day, nichrome does not work. It's clear! You need to swing the swing in the coil of energy removal. It is there that we push the current. By the way, the surplus from Tesla and the frequency setting of the Shark used a simple light bulb. Since the Inductor is galvanically isolated from the entire circuit, the light bulb serves as a resistive load to suppress surplus from cords and pickups.


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