Split positive + Plasma generator + Bucking Coils Combination

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L0stf0x posted this 31 October 2017

Hello all

I removed the drawing because it was faulty and incomplete. Soon I will post the correct one. Sorry for the confusion

 

 

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Wistiti posted this 31 October 2017

Nice to see this here L0stf0x! I will replicate it and share my results with you and every one here!

I am much than happy to have a builder like you here!

Sincerly!

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L0stf0x posted this 31 October 2017

here is the video to make a simple relay to latching relay

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Zanzal posted this 31 October 2017

For those researching these systems. As best I could determine this concept works. The challenge here would be that you need 4x the number of batteries and a stable battery chemistry. Switching for a system like this can be achieved using 4 relay modules, and the system would generally be switched when ether the charge battery voltage gets too high or the run voltage too low.

I decided not to go this route myself, even though there were promising results. The best path to making it useful seem to be to develop a stable chemistry designed to work in this configuration long term. Most commercial batteries are not designed for deep discharge and many discharge cycles. Also they may require a certain voltage range for optimal recharging that unregulated pulses may exceed (what undesirable chemical reactions can result from this I can only imagine). Nothing really insurmountable. Hopefully others will be inspired to look deeper here. 

 

 

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Chris posted this 31 October 2017

Awesome work L9stf0x!!! Thank you for sharing!

Wistiti and I have a formula for calculating the Batteries Energy.

A series connection adds the voltage of the two batteries, but it keeps the same amperage rating (also known as Amp Hours). For example, these two 1.5-volt batteries joined in series now produce 3 volts, but they still have a total capacity of 1.9 amps.

Energy is Joules, Watts is Joules per-second. The Energy can be calculated here by using the simple formula:

E = C x Vaverage

Where:

E = Energy in Joules

C = Capacity in amp-hours

V = Average Voltage

EStart = 2.506 * 1.9 * 3600Seconds = 17141.04 Joules
EEnd = 2.406 * 1.9 * 3600Seconds = 16457.04 Joules
ETotal = EStart - EEnd = 17141.04 - 16457.04 = 684 Joules

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EStart = 12.30 * 7.2 * 3600Seconds = 318816 Joules
EEnd = 12.43 * 7.2 * 3600Seconds = 322185.6 Joules
ETotal = EStart - EEnd = 318816 - 322185.6 = -3369.6 Joules

ECOP = EOut / EIn = 3369.6 Joules / 684 Joules =  4.93 X more Energy Delivered to the Charge Battery than was used from the Source Battery:

 

Like you, Wistiti did get some good results! Using smart combinations and ensuring Energy is "Generated" for at least part of the Cycle.

For those studding, please take very special note of Wistiti's Coil Configurations, Approximate 1/4 Wave length is used.

Best Wishes

   Chris 

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Wistiti posted this 31 October 2017

Hahaha! don't worry Chris, L0stf0x know what he is doing! He is the kind of builder who have the attitude it need to have success!

It will be another great builders team journey!

Like you my friend, I hope some other builders will manifest and join in the POC adventure!

 

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Chris posted this 01 November 2017

Apologies my friend, I know, only trying to be helpful. Yes, my post was more so for others interested.

   Chris

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Wistiti posted this 01 November 2017

Hey! No problem my friend! You always be helpful!

Take care!

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Wistiti posted this 01 November 2017

My replication!

 

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Wistiti posted this 01 November 2017

The last best connection I find for the load...

ps: I also use a dcdc converter...

 

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Chris posted this 01 November 2017

Hey L0stf0x - This is excellent! Very productive, big steps forward!

They are Big Reed Switches! Nice price too! Put Ad's on your Videos, I will give you some sponsorship! Soon pay for them!

Thanks for sharing.

   Chris

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L0stf0x posted this 01 November 2017

Hey L0stf0x - This is excellent! Very productive, big steps forward!

They are Big Reed Switches! Nice price too! Put Ad's on your Videos, I will give you some sponsorship! Soon pay for them!

Thanks for sharing.

   Chris

 

You are welcome Chris   My videos are very bad for the regular people My videos are made only for forum purposes, to see them people who will understand The common person will think what the f... is this? And he will be right After all they aren't so popular to bother But thanks for the advice  

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Zanzal posted this 01 November 2017

Mechanical failures can be very frustrating, I'd recommend including a fuse.

The nice thing about the reed switch in this circuit is that it can act as a dynamic spark gap. As the contacts move away the gap distance increases. I am not sure how much capacitance of the contacts plays a role, but that also should change. I wonder how important this is. Also the choice to use bucking coils is interesting, but I know this works with just a normal coil, so I wonder how important the bucking coil is.

For any physical phenomena that exists there is a set of conditions needed to manifest that phenomena. It stands to reason that any device which re-creates these conditions should produce the phenomena. The difficulty is in knowing what is going on, whats important and what's not important. I don't have the answers here, but I am glad you shared this, its very interesting.

L0stf0x posted this 06 November 2017

Here is another replication by George Haniotakis..

Zanzal you are right, Its working with simple coil but not that good, I already try it. 

The magnet just ads Bias to the reed only, It does not affect the coil, only the reed. Actually the magnet is not wanted near the coils. 

Next test in list is to try to apply the current amplifier technique on the same circuit.. But first the reed has to be stabilized in a comfortable frequency with caps.. Then I have to tune with caps again the bucking coils to be in resonance with the frequency of primary (reed). Then we ll see

Question: Has anyone tried the bucking coils with multi strand wire, but the strands connected as biffilar type (each coil)? 

 

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Wistiti posted this 06 November 2017

Hi LostFox!

Nice to see goerge replicate your device and show this great results!

For your question regards the multistrands wire, i have not yet try it bucking or the way you say but i have try it in the past with 3 // strands in the plasma generator (like what George have share when he try the looping) and it give me better results than the same with just one wire...

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...so maybe the way you propose is a much better way to go...!?

 

We know how to have the answer... Building!!

 

Thanks for sharing and be here with us my freind!

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Zanzal posted this 4 weeks ago

The magnet just ads Bias to the reed only, It does not affect the coil, only the reed. Actually the magnet is not wanted near the coils.  

Perhaps..It would be very interesting if the magnet could be removed to understand how much influence the permanent magnetic field has, but I guess it doesn't really matter. Anyway, this looks really awesome, I am hoping to do a replication soon of it. I'll probably toss it into an Akula type arrangement just to see how well it performs. Thanks so much for sharing it, I'm eagerly awaiting your corrected schematic to see how you've improved upon this.

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mrblobby posted this 3 weeks ago

Please excuse my ignorance on all things electronic, I'm teaching myself. These devices that George and l0stf0x have made look like they're using the same principle that Lester Hendershot used in his device. Here's an Akula replication of his device. 

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Chris posted this 3 weeks ago

Hello and welcome MrBlobby!

You're right, there is a set of Key Principles, however the geometries can vary greatly from device to device.

If you follow the links above and study on the links here and on my website: www.hyiq.org - We have laid out lots of data.

Electrical Energy is very beneficial to study, as the greats before us also found. See our Support Section for a small snippet of this information.

   Chris

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mrblobby posted this 3 weeks ago

Have you guys seen the most recent video series that 'Russ Gries', and 'Rick Friedrich' have put out?
Very interesting.
I wish we could get all you guys together in one big room.
I guess the internet is the next best thing.

I look forward to being further enlightened and thanks for the welcome Chris.

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Zanzal posted this 3 weeks ago

I've gotten some good information from Rick Friedrich's youtube channel. Rick did a good video on the use of Zinc sheeting for EM shielding. Wish I could find it. Might be really useful actually for a device like the Plasma Generator. He's also pointed out that a gentleman named Benitez described the "splitting the positives" (which Rick refers too as "loving paths"), so it shows others have been aware of these things for a long time.

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Chris posted this 3 weeks ago

Hi MrBlobby, some come fresh, new, to this field, not knowing some of the most important things about Electromagnetic Induction, in point of fact I know Electrical Engineers of 30+ years that have not the slightest understanding of Electromagnetic Induction, so please excuse my introduction if you are already learned in the field.

If you have a link, please post, I have not seen or heard of this video until now. Ctrl + C pastes the link into the text field.

I think we, all of us together are doing a great job, its great to hear about the progress of others. To me, it seems as if more people are working toward one end goal now, instead of many.

L0stf0x and Wistiti are doing excellent work! We have right here very interesting tech!

   Chris

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