YoElMiCrO's Ferro-Magnetic Resonance

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YoElMiCrO posted this 27 February 2020

Hi everyone.

Circuit to check ferro-resonance.
The two bulbs are 12V @ 35Watts, if you want you can do the experiment.
The mosfet can be an IRF3205, anyone with an Rds (on) whose value is at least
the value of the load between 10 so that Norton is negligible.
For example, if the bulb is 35W @ 12V, the minimum resistance of the mosfet in the state
on should be less than (12 ^ 2/35) /10=0.4 Ohm.
As the one I propose has 0.008 Ohm, it will more than meet that load.
With respect to the driver, anyone capable of delivering a peak current of 3A
It will be left over.
Here the images of the circuit and its tests.

The method of adjustment is as follows.
We apply a pulse of 2uS to the mosfet, at the beginning the 500 Ohm resistor in the gate to the minimum,
with a low frequency, say 100Hz.
We see the response in the waveform applied to the load, we adjust Ton so that
the answer begins at its maximum negative and at the end of Ton touch 0 Vdc.
Then we verify that in drain of the mosfet during the Toff cycle the answer is
ferro-resonant, this means that the first cycle of the sine function is not symmetric.
Then we raise the frequency while keeping Ton constant.

YoElMiCrO.

 

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Jagau posted this 27 February 2020

Hi yo
excellent experiment to replicate, which I will do.


So you have to achieve this asymmetry by adjusting the Ton that you adjust by the variable resistance on the gate of the mosfet. After that, you can change the frequency only when you reach the asymmetric point, is that it?

Jagau

Vidura posted this 27 February 2020

Hey Jagau,

I think the Ton has to be adjusted by the signal source, and the 500ohm resistor has the function to control the rise time of the switch.

please correct me if im wrong Yoelmicro.

Vidura.

YoElMiCrO posted this 27 February 2020

@Vidura

Yes, that is the funtion of 500 Ohm resistor

Jagau posted this 27 February 2020

Yes, I know that the switching speed, rise time + many other things, of the gate of the mosfet is determined by the gate resistance of the mosfet.

It was for this question, that I did not understand in your explanation given that channel 1 was to stay at 7khz as in your scope shot:


  we adjust Ton so that the answer begins at its maximum negative and at the end of Ton touch 0 Vdc

Thanks for the explanation


jagau

Jagau posted this 27 February 2020

Hi yo
I will build the circuit so we can join in our ideas.

Miller capacity , yes maybe. To prevent self turn-on  we have to prevent it?

One thing that I understood well with the ferrro-resonance it is very unexpected and it is triggered with a variation in voltage, as at the beginning of the thread, non linear resonance and ferro-resonance are add up in certain case.

Jagau

YoElMiCrO posted this 27 February 2020

Hi everyone.

@Jagau.

I find the idea of joining forces spectacular.
When I talk about the miller effect it is to use it as a capacity coupled to the circuit.
For example…
The capacity that the driver sees from the gate is:
Ct = Ciss + [Crss (1+ (Vds / Vg))]
One way to verify the effect of ferro-resonance is this:

 

What we do is download Cp through Sw then turn it off, now
as the voltage of Cp = 0 and if the value is large enough, it will keep
the voltage at 0V in the drain while growing di / dt to the point where the core saturates.
At that point the current is ahead of the voltage and the voltage in Cp will increase abruptly.
As in the following image.

The following oscillations are due to the fact that now Vcp-Edc is not 0 and will take the core out
of saturation until reaching the 3rd quadrant saturating it again and thus the following oscillations.
If you look while the tension falls, the time increases.

Thanks in advance.
YoElMiCrO.

Jagau posted this 28 February 2020

Yes very interesting to see the third quadrant YO
We immediately see an increase in time and thereafter the oscillation with longer time.

 Even that we managed to see almost a fourth goes up in the last part. Well done.

It's the simplest things that are the most explicit

Jagau

Vidura posted this 28 February 2020

Hey Friends, I did a short test of the circuit, with a CF139 core, the indian cosmoferrite is a cheap material, which has almost cuadratic hysteresis.
I cant do math measurements with my scope, but it looks promising, the effect is there:

the core becomes very noisy, unless it is pressed together with force.

regards VIDURA.

Jagau posted this 28 February 2020

yes Vidura
Same effect, you were faster than me


Well done


Jagau

Chris posted this 28 February 2020

My Friends,

An Excellent example of the power of banning together for the good of the Human Race! I am so pleased to be witness to this!

Congratulations my friends! Nice Work!

   Chris

Jagau posted this 28 February 2020

Hi Vidura and YO


The second diagram of yo surprised me
we see very well the 4 states for a single oscillation
What surprised me as said will drain the coil is noisy but I must use a very high DTC not to consume ampere at the input. In study.

 

The bemf is so strong that the third quarter takes off a bit more and in the fourth the damped wave

Did it with my new reliable switching card


Jagau

Chris posted this 28 February 2020

Guys, if I may,

I see you are using the Knee of the BH Curve to reach this objective. This means, if I am right in assuming, that the Coils add in their Magnetic Field Polarity. Do I understand this right?

So one Magnetic Field is a DC Bias of sorts, the other Magnetic Field is pushing up past the knee and falling back down again?

I see why Vidura made the comment some time back, questioning the Polarity of the Magnetic Fields. It is very possible we see another method of Energy Gains here that is not directly using Bucking Magnetic Fields, but instead, this Non-Linear Inductance from Material Effects instead.

I am still thinking, there must be an opposition in there still, perhaps from Core to Coil instead of Coil to Coil Magnetic Field Opposition? I am a little confused, I need to think on this more!

Thanks for sharing guys, I very much enjoy learning new things! I did some similar work here. My waveform's are similar.

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Vidura posted this 28 February 2020

Friends,

If I may for a clearer understanding these images. this is the theory from Yoelmicro, what he explained to me:

below we see a  nearly quadratic hysteresis loop :

this means that the magnetic flux decreases very little from saturation to remanence. This is a requirement of the material to get the effect. in the following image we see the relative permeability for a given material, with it's negative slope between μmax and μsat.

We have to aim to maintain the working point of the inductor-transformer in the negative slope. the steeper the falling curve the greater the amplification factor. This causes that when the applied field decreases, the permeability increases, just the other way around than in the linear region. this make the hysteresis loop circulate the other way around, it's like a time reversal, and thus can pump energy from the aether.

generally a current regulated switching is required for stable operation.

Vidura

 

Jagau posted this 28 February 2020

Hi vidura


I don't understand what Yo meant.
The permeability of a ferromagnetic material is like the ease (less resistance) to the penetration of the external magnetic field "H". So if the external field increases the ferromagnetic material becomes less permeable to the external field and the permeability curve decreases ( the core becomes less permeable and become more resistive)  in negative way and this is normal, what we see in your graph.
I would have rather thought that it spoke about the remanence of the material ie the bridge between Br and Hc the coercive force?
please correct me if I make a mistake.

Between Br and Hc isa free force i think


Jagau

Vidura posted this 28 February 2020

Jagau, If you look at the second graph you can see that the relative permeability in the linear region increase from mu init to mu max. This region is used in conventional EE. Then from mu max. to mu sat. There's the negative slope. When the external field continue increasing, the permeability falls. Now at or near saturation we switch off the external field and the flux in the core start decreasing, while the permeability is now increasing, just the opposite way as in the linear region. Then we let it decrease, but only until reaching mu max. Then we energize the input again, starting the next cycle. Due to the cuadratic hysteresis we have to apply only a small amount of input power to bring the core again into the saturation region, less than the energy which can be extracted during the work cycle. I hope this helps for clarifying. Vidura.

Vidura posted this 28 February 2020

Maybe I should add that we are using DC pulses, so the left half of the hysteresis loop will not apply, we will not change the sign of the magnetic field, so Hc will not be reached. the core remaining magnetised in the positive half cycle only.

Chris posted this 28 February 2020

Hey Guys,

@YoElMiCrO - Is this your theory? Do we understand this correctly?

The BH Curve, or the Hysteresis Curve is typically an Alternating Current Concept, the Magnetic Field pushes through a full cycle. We know the Magnetic Field is Current I through N Turns, which is M.M.F. There are Losses just in the BH Curve without loading the Transformer.

Of course, if the BH Curve is Non-Linear. B is Flux in Gauss, and H is Strength, so this Graph is Density vs Strength:

 

 

The Knee of the BH Curve, marked as b and e, is where we see the most Non-Linearity, but what is Non Linear? The Inductance of the Coil is lost at saturation, so this point is where the Coil is moving into Non Inductive and Inductive again. This is a material Effect, the Core itself is moving in and out of saturation at the knee, which is marked as b and e.

 

Some time ago, I published a document: What's it going to take to get OU? in that paper I gave some examples of this Inductance change and what it would mean achieving the Energy Gain. I looked at this from the point of Energy Stored in an inductor:  0.5 LI2

Looking back, I got my math wrong, squaring the Inductance, not the Current. However, a simple review:

  • L = 2.
  • I = 3.

We get: 0.5 x 2 x 32 = 9.

 

  • L = 7.
  • I = 3.

We get: 0.5 x 7 x 32 = 31.5.

 

The truth of the matter is, I does not stay constant, as L changes, I is forced to change also. So my math is not valid and does not take into account these changes. Of course, the definition of Inductance defines how Current travels through an Inductor. So more work is required in this area.

To make the Inductance change, then the Knee is where one should work:

 

One Coil getting you up to the "Turnaround Point", where a normal transformer is at maximum Magnetising force, and the other Coil pushing up over the knee and back again. Of Course this down hill is where one may see an energy gain.

@YoElMiCrO - Is this your theory?

Just so we are clear, my work is different from this, although there must be an opposition, I believe from Core to Output Coil is the mechanism. Energy must come from a Source, it cant just appear from fresh air. So a Pumping of sorts must occur.

Thank You Guys for sharing your work! I think there is a great deal that can be learned here. If we can all get on the same path here, then big steps forward could be made!

Best wishes,

   Chris

Vidura posted this 29 February 2020

Hey Friends,

It is indeed a very interesting theory. I believe that there has arise some confusion regarding the BH loop. We will see If Yoelmicro can clarify. But if I understood correctly, the theory and the related energy gain is only related to the non linearity of PERMEABILITY. The BH loop, which is actually the AC response of a given core, was only mentioned to point toward a specific property of some core materials, which are required to make benefit of the effect. That is that the relationship between Bsat and Br should be close to 1. So lets see what Yoelmicro has to say, he is actually the transformer expert, which I think is of great benefit for the forum community .

Vidura

 

 

YoElMiCrO posted this 29 February 2020

Hi everyone.
I will try to explain what I understand is happening, I have to say that it is more complex
that this approach, but more than enough.

@ Chris.

Yes, it is like that.
With regard to the hysteresis curve it is merely illustrative.
Going deeper into this we can define two areas within the first quadrant.
The area between Br / Bs is solely responsible for storage
of energy, that is why in the Flybak topologies a gap is necessary, because this
Increase the ratio Br / Bs.
And the area within the hysteresis loop, this represents the quality of said material,
It is directly related to the losses of this.
I think an image says more than words:

This is the first circuit I designed to study the phenomenon:

Looking at the material / core datasheet we take the value of H such that it is found
approximately 2Bsat from the first quadrant, after the core we get
the value of the effective magnetic length.
With these values ​​and using the Biot-Sabart law we calculate the number of
turns for that H obtained.

It would be as follows ...

N = (H * le) / (0.4 * Pi * I)

Where:

H = Magnetizing force in oersted (Oe).
I = Current in amper
le = Effective magnetic length in centimeters
N = Number of turns.

The circuit current variation is approximately between 100mA and 2A,
margin more than safe for the TDA2050.
Ideally, apply on 1A and calculate the number of turns using the formula above.
Then we apply at the input a sine function with frequencies between
1Hz ~ 20KHz, we will start with a low amplitude, say 100mV while
We look for a maximum on your way out.
Once that maximum is found we can vary the input amplitude.
Not all materials work, the best are as previously commented
those that the Br / Bs ratio is close to the unit.
These can be of Amorphous, Nanocrystalline or any other type with said characteristic.

@Jagau

If we start thinking ...
Within a deep saturation Ur = Uo and as we know the inductance
related to the solenoid that forms the inductor decreases to the point that now
its value is equal to if it had no core, in this way we can say
that virtually the core is in a vacuum.
During the non-active cycle the core will return virtually again, only that it is
You see that entity will be responsible for your return.
I think it is permeability that is capable of acting as an intermediary in the process
and the inductor would be the collector
I currently believe that E / H are independent and natural entities,
however, as an action / reaction one evokes the other.

Jagau posted this 01 March 2020

Hi yo
I'm starting to understand the purpose of this circuit to give us a certain measure of the core's hyteresis, but we will also have to find another circuit which will give us another equally significant value,

the permeability of the core, the 2 characteristics are so important.

Jagau

YoElMiCrO posted this 02 March 2020

Hi everyone.

@Jagau.


If you look at the circuit it causes it to work only in the first quadrant.
The variable resistor sets the operating point so that the current is always positive.
I just wanted to see if Ur's negative behavior is real and compare it to the behavior of the Leo Esaki (Tunel) diode.
Looking at this image will be clearer.

The relationship between Br/Bs also dictates the negative slope of a
given material The closer to the unit the greater the slope
and therefore greater amplification thereof.

Regarding the experiment you did, I can say the following.
If you look after turning off the Sw, the drain voltage of the mosfet rises sharply,
but the time that remains is extremely small.
That indicates that now the series inductance is very low and is discharged through
of that new time constant SQR(LC)=t, during this new semi cycle
the mosfet's parasitic diode enters conduction returning energy to the capacitor
of the source and the time that remains negative increases because now you will have to
leave the first quadrant to the third and saturate the nucleus in that quadrant.
And so while there is energy left in the capacitor.
Explain why so low current.
Good demonstration of nonlinearity in inductance.
Thank you.

YoElMiCrO.

 

Vidura posted this 10 March 2020

Hey Friends.
Let me remind you that in this thread Yoelmicro has shared a really very valuable theory, it can be easily tested by replicating the simple circuits. It is particulary useful as it allows us to understand the mode how the excess energy is tapped into the device, what are the required parameters and the properties of the magnetic materials to make it work. there are the formulas to calculate the working point of the inductor, and a test circuit to find the best working point, static and dynamic. Now it is up to us , to grasp it or leave it.

I really would encourage all following to do some testing on this, also think about how this data could fit into the particular device which you are working on actually. You might find that we can progress in huge steps if our knowledge becomes more complete.

I wish success for all of you,

regards Vidura.

Chris posted this 10 March 2020

Hey Guys,

I agree, it is now on the Above Unity Machines menu:

 

Only Tier II can access it until it is changed to Tier I. A total of four machines we have come up with, all based around the same sort of Technology, one is a bit different, but still has Energy "Generation" characteristics, all showing great promise, yet so many take no notice!

I have also added Jagau's Non Linear Resonance as I believe this has the same potential.

Best wishes,

   Chris

Jagau posted this 10 March 2020

Hi yo
I'm trying to reproduce your demo circuit with the attached circuit
who is named '' Hysteresis measuring arrangement with a digital oscilloscope ''

for those interested there is also a circuit on the same site for analog oscilloscopes and other circuit.

https://meettechniek.info/passive/magnetic-hysteresis.html

Jagau

Vidura posted this 12 March 2020

Hi, I have tried the ferroresonant test circuit with a silicon steel core, it works also, as the hysteresis is cuadratic. The wave forms are slightly different, but the effect is the same. Tomorrow I will upload some pictures for documentation. Thanks Vidura

Jagau posted this 12 March 2020

Hi Vidura

These new technologies are fascinating to study,
do you use the non-oriented silicon steels or the oriented steel ??

probably the non-oriented ones which are more versatile

Jagau

Vidura posted this 12 March 2020

Hey friends,
find here the images from the ferro resonance test with a silicone steel core. It is a part recycled from a stator of a universal motor, a toroid in two halves. Unexpectedly the frequency for the best working point was much higher than in the previous test with the ferrite, around 25khz. Although the core remains cold  all the time.

The upper trace is the voltage on the second lightbulb, the lower trace on the mosfet drain.

the last shot current thru the bulb(5A/div) vs. voltage(upper trace)

Regards VIDURA.

Chris posted this 12 March 2020

Nice work Vidura,

What Circuit did you follow? I see there is no extra circuitry like YoElMiCrO shows.

Thanks for sharing!

Best wishes,

   Chris

YoElMiCrO posted this 12 March 2020

Hi everyone.

@Chris.

The first circuit of the post is the one that Vidura replied.
I think I understand the principle on which the Akula / Others circuits are based.
Although it is not the same as a study, it has part of it.
Prepare a hardware to assess if I'm wrong or not.
This is the physically performed circuit.

This end I will have a little time to evaluate.
I will keep you informed.
Thank you in advance.

YoElMiCrO.

Chris posted this 12 March 2020

Thanks for sharing YoElMiCrO!

I am super happy others are working on this! Although there might be differences, I think in the end, we will find many similarity's also.

Some time back, we did cover the Knee of the BH Curve in the thread: Non-Linear Inductance

 

I believe  YoElMiCrO has taken this to the next level! Applying the Theory and the Circuitry and finding there is more to this! Proving what I was sharing as incomplete, which it is and I knew it. I am very happy to have such a great mind here with us! Thank You YoElMiCrO for becoming part of our team and sharing your expertise!

I had the steepest, most difficult learning Curve, and I try to always say "I am learning too", so others can see I may not always be right.

Although this tech is slightly different from my main technology I am sharing, Coil to Coil Interactions, I believe there must be a Core to Coil Interaction here. This action and Interaction pair must do the same thing, the Inductance Changes with the Magnetic Field, its not hard to see the Magnetic Field Change here. At its base level, this is Non-Linear Inductance.

Best wishes,

   Chris

Jagau posted this 12 March 2020

Hi yo

thank you for sharing your knowledge YO, it's very appreciated by everyone here


I would like to be able to replicate this circuit which contains a crystal with multiturn pot and 2 Ic.


Did I miss circuit somewhere?
Jagau

YoElMiCrO posted this 13 March 2020

Hi everyone.

@Chris.

Thanks for this great forum, we all learn from everyone.
I think nobody has complete knowledge, most of the time what
we are not able to see others do it and thanks to that they expose it
We advance in this great task of AU.
Again thanks for sharing.

@Jagau.

No, the circuit is not on the NET.
I designed it just to start evaluating if it's how I theorize that
the circuit that owns two Akula TL494s works.
It is not the final circuit, use a PIC for calculation problems,
so I can solve the possible operating points.
Anyway here it is.

Thank you all in advance.
YoElMiCrO

Jagau posted this 13 March 2020

Hi yo


Thanks for sharing the schematic.
After a very rough initial analysis of the circuit, you have a generator (PIC) which activates 2 mosfets via a mosfet driver.

2 different frequencies are produced on each side of the 2 coils.Maybe you want 2 frequencies to fight or push one after the other ???

Jagau

YoElMiCrO posted this 23 March 2020

Hi everyone.

As I commented earlier, with the circuit I made I could
perform innumerable physical tests that were corroborating the hypotheses
varied that arose on the actual operation of the circuit with two TL494 from Akula.
After doing a lot of analysis this is the best approach.
I will try to explain its operation as simple as possible!
The circuit in question is that of the two TL494s, I think flashlight # 3.

It has a TL494 in free osc mode, frequency and duty cycle are controlled.
the duty controlled from pin 4 which controls the dead-time when configured
in push-pull mode, pin13 to Vref.
It is configured in common mode, since pin 13 at ground potential.
In this way we can control the duty 0 ~ 100%.
This free oscillator is key in its operation, but now we will see it.
The following TL494 is a Boost-Converter whose duty does not exceed 50%,
This is in charge of keeping its operation stable through the control loop,
which modifies the duty inversely proportional to the output voltage.

This is my point of view on the concept of operation.
This circuit involves two concepts, one that is already known and the other still under study.
The first one tries to have the least loss, (better efficiency) and it goes away that
reaching a maximum BH/2 magnetic energy is better to increase it cycle by cycle.
The second is about the negative region of ur.

It happens as follows ...
The free oscillator circuit causes increments of 100Gaus for example.
Your duty in question will be such that EdcTon = VfbToff and the stored energy
BH/2 will return to the input capacitor, this way the source will only have to
provide the energy of losses of the circuit and its consumption will be very low.
Now the Boost-Converter is participating.
It has a lower frequency such that its maximum duty (also controlled
from pin 4) fit the number of free oscillator pulses needed that
increase the energy discreetly until B is such that its ur is maximum.
As the two coils have the same phase, during the time that it is active
the primary with the highest number of turns (the Boost-Conveter), the one with the fewest turns will see a short
during the toff cycle and will not be able to release stored energy BH/2
because EdcTon is now unequal to VfbToff.
This causes the current to increase cycle by cycle, just as the Boost-Converter applies
Toff the short seen by the free oscillator is no longer, this causes all the
stored energy release, but remember that this oscillator is free.
During this Boost Toff time the tension in the free osc mosfet drain
it will be higher than Edc and its next cycles over saturate the core making it pass
by the negative slope of ur, in this way during the Toff time of this oscillator
free the flyback voltage peak (Vfb) in the drain will be of various magnitudes (So
protection in the mosfet drain) while the energy stored in the area lasts
left of the hysteresis (Br/Bs) until it is completely delivered to the
Input Load/Capacitor.
It is this energy that added to the stored BH/2 causes the AU.
Now we have an energy that comes from the ferrite itself + the one that we previously stored
cycle by cycle.
This explains the reason for a gap in the ferrite.

I will make a final circuit with discrete ICs and when it is 100% functional
I'll post it so all can replicate it.

I hope serve something.
Thank you in advance.

YoElMiCrO.

Jagau posted this 24 March 2020

Hi yo
Very interesting, this is the major part of AU

It is this energy that added to the stored BH/2 causes the AU.
Now we have an energy that comes from the ferrite itself + the one that we previously stored
cycle by cycle

 

yes it serve and and I appreciate your point of view thank"s

Jagau

YoElMiCrO posted this 25 March 2020

Hi everyone.

I have the final hardware ready.
Modify the control stage so that we can all replicate.
It is made with discrete components and I think easy to get.
The core is an EI33/3C90, the common ones in computer SMPS and TL494.
Later two 556 timers that I think are easier to get.
Here the images of the hardware.

Control with verifying the correct mode.

As I commented before, when it is 100% I publish it in this tread.
Thank you in advance.
YoElMiCrO.

Chris posted this 25 March 2020

Very nice! Awesome Work YoElMiCrO!

Thank You for sharing!

I am so pleased we are all working together! We can only do this together! We are all filled with the same colored blood, DNA is the same species, so we have to stick together, work together! Work for each other and all of our futures!

Best wishes,

   Chris

Jagau posted this 27 March 2020

Hi yo
When you talk about the circuit with 2 TL494 is that what you mean?

  If we look at the parthened output coil, it polarizes the center with the positive and activates the 2 mosfets on the negative side with two frequencies in push pull mode, i think so it is the best solution.

Jagau

Vidura posted this 28 March 2020

Hey Jagau, Thank's for posting the original schematic. The Two switches are working in the same direction, not push-pull. The dot notation shows this, and also according the theory of the negative slope of permeability the inductor is driven at the first quadrant of hysteresis, between Br and Bsat , there is no magnetic reversal, but two different frequencies. Regards Vidura.

Vidura posted this 28 March 2020

Hi Vidura

These new technologies are fascinating to study,
do you use the non-oriented silicon steels or the oriented steel ??

probably the non-oriented ones which are more versatile

.

Jagau

Sorry I didn't see this post earlier, Yes it is non orientated silicon steel, the most common quality from stator of universal motor. I will do more testing with this cheap materials. Vidura.

Chris posted this 28 March 2020

My Friends,

I support YoElMiCrO's work and Ideas! I think this can work, with enough work!

However, on the dot notation that Jagau and Vidura have bought up:

 

If one were to translate the Akula transcripts, he used the word: "generator" more than most other terms. The word: "transformer" was another very commonly used.

I urge, stay open minded. You just never know what your next discovery might be!

 

The very title here does serve as an example. A Voltage and Current is present. We human beings have very few methods of making this occur!

A Quote from Akula:

All schemes to develop and execute on principles of operation (Transgenerator magnetic field Andrey Melnichenko) and what to do with Pantyuhavu have!

 

I ask, try to stay open minded.

Best wishes,

   Chris

Jagau posted this 28 March 2020

Hi vidura


I was not talking about the mosfet activation sequence I was talking about the two activation frequencies which operate the two mosfets in push pull mode and the pole totem mode does it very well. This frequency is probably not in phase and is different either a harmonic or another.

It is obvious and we can clearly see it in the diagram that the gate of the 2 mosfets are activated at the same time given that the 4 output transistors of the 2 TL494 oscillators are all connected together. The inventor of this circuit that I published succeeded in making it work as such and he will not tell us all its secrets.
If we look closely at the diagram there are delay components on one side of the mosfet drain. This circuit may seem simple to explain but it is a little more complicated than it seems

Jagau

Chris posted this 28 March 2020

I agree with Jagau,

This circuit is more complicated that it seems.

I must say however, we are taking YoElMiCrO's thread off topic - YoElMiCrO do you feel this is off topic?

Best wishes,

   Chris

YoElMiCrO posted this 29 March 2020

Hi everyone.

@Chris.

The circuit that Jagau exposes is the one I am referring to.
It is this circuit that I study to separate the events on which it is based.
So I think that as a schematic reference is fine.
I must say that it has errors, but as a reference it is fine.

@Zanzal.

I thank you for this topic here it is the real key to UA.
I already understood 100% what is happening, also other circuits
previously they claim AU works the same way.
As soon as possible I will write a document and send it to Vidura
for him to translate it from Spanish to English, nothing better than a human being.
Thank you Vidura for giving you.

YoElMiCrO.

Vidura posted this 29 March 2020

Hello Friends, As it seems that the version of Yoelmicro's circuit which uses the PIC microcontroller is performing better, I thought to put this link of a low-cost pic programmer for those who want to replicate: https://www.microchip.com/Developmenttools/ProductDetails/PG164100 The regular price is 15$ , now until 31of march it is 50% off. Regards Vidura.

Chris posted this 29 March 2020

@Chris.

The circuit that Jagau exposes is the one I am referring to.
It is this circuit that I study to separate the events on which it is based.
So I think that as a schematic reference is fine.
I must say that it has errors, but as a reference it is fine.

 

Hey YoElMiCrO,

Ok no problem. Perhaps this post: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator and surrounding posts may be worth your review, I also researched this circuit some time back, redrawing it to try to further understand it, shared again here:

 

I also thought that circuit was very interesting. I do get the feeling you see things a little different from myself, the change in Magnetic Field as the Source of Voltage, so I will be interested in reviewing your method of "Generation" when you have more information on your theory.

Of course, always interested in others findings! 

Best wishes,

   Chris

Chris posted this 30 March 2020

My Friends,

You know, after reviewing the video from A Valon:

 

I think I may understand more what YoElMiCrO is meaning!

 

See the video Duty is set to: 25% and 50% respectively, same as the Grandfather Schematic. Two PWM's to two Mosfets same also! The Similarity's are too close!

On the other forums, I have spent so long fighting, debating and being attacked, I had to stick to my guns with such conviction, I may have over-looked a few other things.

We are dealing with two slightly different things here. Perhaps another way to get to the same end result. Still, lets see, Voltage and Current wise, lets see what YoElMiCrO finds as to these fundamental situations.

 

The voltage appears to be increased, by fundamental change in Inductance, which we know changes with the Magnetic Field, we know we need the Voltage up, this appears to be another way to do it, rather than delayed Conduction.

Lets see if the Currents via the Right Hand Grip Rule oppose during the "Generational" Phase?

Going back, reading, I owe an apology to Zanzal, sorry old friend! If I was not open enough to your new ideas. I should not have closed my mind to new ideas on getting the Voltage up, I am sorry!

Best wishes,

   Chris

Chris posted this 31 March 2020

Hey YoElMiCrO,

When you get a minute, I would really like to hear your answer:

Lets see if the Currents via the Right Hand Grip Rule oppose during the "Generational" Phase?

 

Using Conventional Current, Current flowing from Positive ( + ) to Negative ( - ), using the Right Hand Grip Rule, do the Currents Oppose during the "Generational" Phase between the two Coils?

It might be a little hard to document in small setups.

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Zanzal posted this 31 March 2020

Going back, reading, I owe an apology to Zanzal, sorry old friend! If I was not open enough to your new ideas. I should not have closed my mind to new ideas on getting the Voltage up, I am sorry!

It is all good. That you recognize that there could be some small potential here means a lot. Thanks.

YoElMiCrO posted this 03 April 2020

Hi everyone.

Do some experiments to see if they were really referenced
the same phenomenon when we use ferromagnetic core and when we don't.
The result was such that in both cases the same phenomenon is used.
In the case of the ferromagnetic core, it is already clear to me what happens when
enters deep saturation the same event occurs as when it is not!
The key to achieving is shown in this image, even though that was already known.

I think I only have to do a few experiments to finally
design a circuit that everyone can replicate.

Thank you in advance.

YoElMiCrO.

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