The Field Structure of Nature

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Chris posted this 2 weeks ago

For sometime now I have touched on what I think the Structure of the Magnetic Field is.

This idea comes from many years of research and experiments.

 

 

Structure of the Atom - by Giesbert Nijhuis:

 

The amazing Water Dual Vortex Phenomena:

 

We see this in the Tornado Dual Vortex

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There is a lot of evidence to show that Magnetic Fields hold similar characteristics in their Field Structures.

Now, in the above image of the Coriolis Effect, you know why all hurricanes ever recorded:

  1. Never cross the Equator!
  2. Have a Spin Direction which is directly linked to the Coriolis Effect and the same phenomena shown above with the Dual Vortex effect.
  3. Has intensity linked to Magnetic Field strength!

 

Some argue that there is no Equator seen in the Magnetic Field, I say there is good evidence and has been through out history! At the end of the day, we all have our beliefs, some are based on evidence and some are not.

Science is starting to see an equatorial in the magnetic Field. The Solar System also exhibits a similar thing:

 

Vortex Rings are a natural phenomena, they are everywhere: One of my favourites:

 

   Chris

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Chris posted this 3 days ago

Hey Bob,

A lot of great work was done by Howard and his team, they never really got properly recognised.

Nature has such uniformity but at the same time can be very random. Random only for a short time before equilibrium kicks back in.

We have the ability to delay Natures Equilibrium however, the greatest gift Nature has to offer.

Are Images a problem for you? This should be working now. 2mb of less all common image types are supported.

   Chris

Idea1man posted this 3 days ago

The team of Howard Johnson; Beyer; and Davis engineered the best, most detailed imaging of magnetic fields. It's far different than anyone else. They also join those who think there are magnetic particles which circulate. 

The image won't copy here, but it's two vortexes on each pole, with one smaller than the other.

 

Chris posted this 4 days ago

My Friends,

I agree completely with you all.

However, there is a useful construct to the Magnetic Field, it must be recognised that Science has the Magnetic Field wrong, once properly conceptualised, it still does provide a useful means of description.

A long time ago I pointed out the use and method of the Turbo, how a pressure is a tool of Humanity.

Pressure or Stress, the same thing.

Stress is the Invokes Induction as pointed out by Onepower, Induction is the Measure of what we call Voltage and Current - The Absolute Goal.

In my work, presenting Bucking Coils, and the Stress they create, we have now come full circle:

 

   Chris

onepower posted this 4 days ago

Idea1man

Quote: "Now that we have gotten down to the original basics of the structure of a magnetic field, I can see what the lines of force are. They are like the meteorologist's isobar lines, which don't exist. They only mark pressure measurements."

Exactly, the standard is that if possible you never use a measuring device which is directly influenced by the thing to be measured or the measure is corrupt. However this is exactly what they did when they used ferromagnetic material in the iron filings experiment. As such they were not measuring the source field structure they were measuring the effects of magnetic induction on iron filings.

To make matters worse they then conceived imaginary lines of force based on their flawed perspective due to the corrupt measurement. Then they proceeded to apply this flawed model to everything in science in effect corrupting the science.

This is a perfect example of what happens when we layer one false belief on another built on a foundation of quicksand.

 

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Idea1man posted this 4 days ago

Now that we have gotten down to the original basics of the structure of a magnetic field, I can see what the lines of force are. They are like the meteorologist's isobar lines, which don't exist. They only mark pressure measurements. The magnetic lines don't exist. They only mark strength of the magnetic field. The field extends everywhere around the magnet indefinitely, theoretically. Of course, it decreases in strength rapidly.

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Marathonman posted this 4 days ago

Very wise statement Onepower,  Gravity has a three dimensional plain of existence and when exposed to a two dimensional magnetic field it cancels out two of the Gravitational dimensions leaving one Gravitational dimension which causes currant to flow from the Aether (counter space) into the primer system.(space) the whole electron knocking loose loose thing makes me chuckle as that would make copper not copper. i am a firm believer of electricity traveling on the outside of the wire not through it but hey, that is not everyone's game of dielectric reflector theory. as for the the currant path and curl i very much agree currant is guided in an arch trajectory to the outer rim being guided by spiraling fields and counter fields.

 

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onepower posted this 5 days ago

In the big picture we should strive to experiment and perform experiments for ourselves to prove matters for ourselves... anything less just seems like speculation.

Here is another experiment I performed in the past which may interest some here. I was preoccupied with Faraday's Homopolar motor/generator and I could not understand how something which appears to simple could be so complicated. Why the conjecture?, why a supposed paradox?. So I went through the literature and as most have found the standard explanations seem absurd at best.

So as we start removing all that is known and start concentrating on a primary cause we are left with the notion that something is happening in the copper disk with respect to a supposedly static magnetic field. Here we have two options... a current across a disk and a magnetic field so we can discard the magnetic field as it reasonably know so far as know can be.

The copper disk... I used an 120v AC dissectible transformer secondary as a primary and a 3 turn coil as a secondary which was rectified to produce a DC current around 200 amperes. This was connected across the length of a thick aluminum plate with no external magnetic field disk attached. I used my hall effect magnetometer array to track and plot the magnetic field strength in the plate thus the actual path of the current through the plate. It was found that the current path specifically being a free path cannot follow the path of least resistance. Why?, because the curl of the magnetic field bound to a free current path induces a secondary field in the plate which acts in such a direction that the free current path always forms an arc and not a straight line as supposed.

Now if we have an electric current which has a free path not constrained like a wire conductor and the currents magnetic field is bound to said current which must self-induce itself within the conductor forming an arc. Then the perpendicular supposedly static permanent magnetic field disk attached to the copper disk in a homoplar motor/generator must recognize the secondary induced field forming an arc as a motional conductor due to the arc of the free current path.

The confusion would seem to be due to the fact that perceptually our mind has serious reservations concerning a motional force acting on another motional force with few or no constraints as the zero plane which dictates the fulcrum from which the the forces are born becomes motional or elastic in itself. It would seem to confound our mind to no end that nature is dynamic always acting within three dimensions on multiple scales.

Personally I find it interesting because there is always something new to learn from even the most basic experiments. A mind at rest remains at rest, a mind in motion... that's another story.

If there is a lesson to be learned it is simple... check your premise, experiment.

 

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Chris posted this 5 days ago

Also anther very good video:

 

   Chris

Chris posted this 5 days ago

Isnt it amazing how this simple thread dispells the long standing myth of the Magnetic Field.

 

This is amazing also: Fundamental Building Blocks or Nature

 

The fundamental building blocks of nature are fluid-like substances which are spread throughout the entire universe and ripple in strange and interesting ways.

 

Sounds like the Aristotle's Quintessence! Dis-proven by the Michelson-Morley Experiment. 

   Chris

onepower posted this 5 days ago

Many years ago I built a hall effect magnetometer array to plot magnetic field strength and came to similar conclusions as that of Howard Johnson. The greatest field strength is not at the center of the pole face but near the edge of the face where it curls back on itself. Thus most all depictions you see in the textbooks are incorrect.

However it begs the question... why at the edge of the pole face?. Reason suggests each layer of the domains should be treated as a layer and each layer is additive. There is no "whole" magnet as the whole is always composed of many parts and should be seen as such. Thus each layer of magnetic material stacked on the other grows in strength which must always reinforce a curl back on itself. More layers of material produces more force pushing forward and more force curling back on itself... the greatest curl where there is the greatest cumulative strength at the face edge.

It all makes more sense when seen from the proper perspective and explains why the greatest strength at the pole face edge should curl back to the center of the magnet. That is the nearest point of the lowest potential at the zero plane dividing the N-S condition. The next lowest potential condition is the opposite pole however we should remember it is twice the distance away.

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Idea1man posted this 5 days ago

Chris, you come up with the best images, graphics, videos, etc.

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Chris posted this 5 days ago

In a single Current loop we see something we have seen else where:

 

Magnetic Flux will always take the shortest path! In Air, in Iron, in any material that Magnetic Flux ( Φ ) traverses, it will always take the shortest possible path.

So where have we see this structure before? Its everywhere:

 

Atomic Detonations:

 

We see excellent evidence in the Ferro-Fluid of this on the end of the Magnet:

 

Ref: youtube.com watch?v=3PpKKDw_lIk

The conventional view of the Magnetic Field, we should see the Ferro-Fluid collect at the Centre of the Magnet, joining from one pole to the other, magnetic attraction, but we don't see this. In point of fact, the Ferro-Fluid does not want to move toward the Centre of the Magnet at all. 

Amazingly, Jellyfish have a similar shape:

Remember the shortest Path, this is what it looks like:

 

That's just the coolest thing, one of the most efficient structures in Nature!

   Chris

Chris posted this 5 days ago

@Onepower - Completely agree! For those reading this was bought up: here

@Dummyload - Awesome find! Thanks for sharing! Multi Pole Magnets have been around for some time, but this pre dates every thing I have read! Thanks for sharing!

 

   Chris

Chris posted this 5 days ago

Hey Bob,

Sorry if I miss understood your question.

I agree, a Magnet is made up from lots of smaller Magnets. Why is a Neodymium Magnet so much better that Cobolt?

 

You can see, the number of Electrons/Protons are very much greater in a Neodymium Magnet compared to a Cobolt Magnet. The Electrons are what give rise to the Magnetic Field.

The Magnetic Field is created by the Net Electron Spin. An external Magnetic Field Aligning The Electrons:

 

Question:

What force attracts or repels the Magnets?

   Chris

Idea1man posted this 5 days ago

Dummyload   ...  Interesting old idea. Cotton covered wires, is that from the 1800's? Those would have Bloch Walls.

That starts a new idea that could be useful. Make modern strong Neo magnets with opposing poles in the middle, or two like poles on both ends of a magnet. Could be a way to make a magnet motor, or better PM generators.

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Idea1man posted this 5 days ago

I need to clarify what I am talking about. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with the idea of two torus's in a magnetic field. Two opposite sides is the norm in nature. I'm only talking about the meaning of a Bloch Wall.  That's why I made a new topic. I don't care if it's moved to the Field Structure topic.

Thank you Onepower, that's all I meant. The center zone, of a magnet, is not termed a Bloch Wall. There doesn't appear to be a name for it. Perhaps for good reason.

The practice of coloring one half of a magnet red, and the other half blue, is misleading people. One half is not only North, and the other half is not only South, as if the poles are mono-poles. There are no magnetic mono-poles. Each atom, everywhere in the magnet, is the same dipole, pointed in the same direction, whether close to ends or in the middle.

 

magnetic molecules

 

Furthermore, the strength, of the magnet, is related to how many atoms are in it, the size of the magnet. And, from the experiments showing weakness toward the middle, it looks like internal strength depends on how many atoms are on each side of the interior zone, with the midline having equal amounts on either side. This doesn't require a change in polarity or domain. There's only one domain. Looking towards the North pole, from the interior, shows the South pole of the atoms. Looking towards the South pole, shows the North poles. Indeed, if the magnet is broken, the break on the North pole side becomes the South Pole, while the South pole side break becomes the North pole.

 

onepower posted this 5 days ago

Many of the greatest minds in the past implied we must learn to see beyond the illusions nature has created in our mind. That is, to understand the difference between what we think we are seeing and the primary cause of what is actually happening in reality.

For example, consider the pattern of iron filings around a magnet. They say this shows the pattern of the magnetic field and lines of force however to me it shows a failure of logic and reason. The pattern is an illusion based on the phenomena of "magnetic induction" whereby a magnetic field will induce an opposite polarity magnetic field in any magnetic material such as iron. Thus we see that any iron will be polarized in such a way that the induced field is always attracted to the field which induced it.

Now concerning the iron filings, pieces of iron wire or cores in proximity to a magnet. When the pieces of iron material are magnetized or polarized they follow a simple set of rules. Parallel filings repel each other because the induced poles on each end of the filing are like poles thus they must repel. Iron filings not parallel but in series attract each other because the induced poles on each end are unlike poles thus they must attract.

At which point we can begin to see that because parallel filings repel and series filings attract the induced forces present would naturally cause lines of filings to form which converge at the source poles. The primary cause of said lines is not due to the source magnetic field but the individual fields induced in each iron filing acting on each other.

 

We must always keep the primary cause of things in mind and look past the superficial nature of what we think we are seeing in order to make progress.  

 

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Chris posted this 5 days ago

If you ever wanted to know why the Van Allen Belts are protecting the Earth:

The Electric Field is the result of the Magnetic cancelling...

Chris posted this 6 days ago

Some discussion on the Thread: Bloch Wall Clarification

I want to carry on here, as this thread is where this started. We discussed the Bloch Wall and what it actually is. Please read if you wish to understand this continuation.

We saw, there is a definite Doughnut, or Toroidal collection of Ferro-Fluid on the End of the Magnet: 

 

 

Ponder this: Why do we detect no Magnetic Field at the Center of the Magnet at the Bloch Wall like we do at the Poles of the Magnet?

Consider a single Flux line, forgive my crude graphic:

 

This is using Howard Johnson's observations as the Bloch Wall in the Centre of the Magnet:

 

You can see, The Curl of the Magnetic A Vector Potential, as it follows the Flux Line, cancels at the Centre of the magnet, the observed High Stress area where my magnetic Probe did not want to traverse. This is a High Stress area, Magnetic Flux is opposing, and thus the total net Vectors are cancelling. We detect no Magnetic Field.

 

We see a Magnetic Calm in the middle of the magnet, effectively, the Magnetic Field is Cancelled. This is Nature showing us something very important. Problem is we have not been smart enough to understand.

The reason we see the Spikes, well it is very simple, these spikes are the Inverse Square Law in action, as we saw the Tornado above, there is a Dual Vortex occurring, the Cancellation of Flux creates a counter to the strength of the Flux and because of this Cancellation, we see it decrease in Flux Strength as a function of the distance. 

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Chris posted this 1 weeks ago

I agree Onepower!

Our Mind, one of the three things given, yet we use so little of it! ( Lucy )

'Dowsing' and other phenomena like it absolutely amaze me, its the missing part of Humanity! I believe with time this will come, Humans will begin to be spiritual again, the ways of the ancients will return. They must, for the Golden Age!

The "Hall of Records" is not a Geographic Location on Earth, its a Intellectual Region that can be reached individually.

   Chris

onepower posted this 1 weeks ago

There is much to learn Chris and my experience led to many other experiments. Dowsing is not what most people think and it is known in the art that our mind rejects 99% of our sensory input. It does this to avoid an information overload however that is not to say we cannot retrain or open our mind to new things.

As such I have come to believe the dowsing wires or rods do not actually detect anything... how could they?, why should they move?. A much more likely explanation which I have proven in many respects is that our body detects the anomaly and our mind involuntarily causes us to move the rods in the right direction... an intuition detector of sorts. That is, we may be able to sense an extraordinary number of things around us intuitively if only we could train our mind not to reject 99% of the information it actually detects.

 

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Chris posted this 1 weeks ago

@Onepower,

I remember the use of 'Dowsing' when I was a kid. Not heard of this for a long time!

Things of old appear to be topics today we forget. I am glad to see these returning! Important things!

Re the Water Video, I wanted to understand this further, it was a fantastic phenomena.

Talking about proof, I saw a video, they claimed it is an answer to the Coriolis Effect: (They are confusing Centrifugal Force and the Coriolis Effect)

 

I say, they have a lot to learn and a lot to apologise for! I cant believe an organisation like this would make such an effort to Scientifically explain something that is clearly not the way it works! After all, how do Hurricanes or Cyclones form: 'warm, moist air over the ocean rises upward'.

As our Earth spins, so does our Atmosphere and thus there is no difference in velocity of the Earth to the Atmosphere, the theories are wrong, and the Coriolis Effect for most remains largely unexplained, or does it?

 

Experiment:

I replicated the video, using only the South Hemisphere as a baseline.

I took one of my large Magnets and placed it under the bowl, filled with water and what did I see? Yes, the Water swirled in the opposite direction! Flip the Magnet and the Water swirls in the opposite direction!

The Magnetic Field Polarity was key to the direction of the Vortex motion and I could change the Direction with Magnetic Field Polarity.

 

Science is awesome, understanding simple things that are not taught in school makes life very much more interesting!

   Chris

onepower posted this 1 weeks ago

Great posts, I like the north/south hemisphere video.

It would seem there are many people who can believe some things with no tangible proof yet cannot believe in other things with an abundance of proof. One oddity I had serious reservations about initially was "Dowsing" and I had to prove the matter for myself. I use two bent coat hanger wires and to this day I still have issues believing despite the fact I have found it to be 100% accurate in my case.

When talking with family and friends they say they cannot believe so I bend some wires and ask them to let me locate a pipe or line underground that I have no prior knowledge of. I locate it within inches and then they say it must be a trick of some kind. A trick?, how exactly can it be a trick if I have no prior knowledge of the thing I just located four feet underground?... that is some trick.

Statistically the probability of locating a pipe or line in a large field tends toward zero and yet for some reason it works. Here we can reasonably determine a few things... It does not work for everyone however we as individuals are obviously not "everyone" and there seem to be forces at play we have yet to understand.

Not a big deal, there are most likely billions of things we have yet to understand however one thing we can say for certain is that denial is not proof of anything other than denial.

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Chris posted this 2 weeks ago

Thanks Bob, I was going to add a Walter Russell Video. Great minds...

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Idea1man posted this 2 weeks ago

Very good presentation, Chris. You are a natural teacher.

There should be an equator effect in magnets, as there is with nature universally, from atoms to galaxies. Walter Russell shows the full shape and effect of the double vortex phenomenon.

 

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