FringeIdeas Non-Inductive Coil Experiment Replication

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FringeIdeas posted this 07 May 2023

I'll start this thread more or less for my documentation and a bit of questioning. I've been reading a ton and going over the videos several times. However, I'm pretty sure I don't have this correct yet. And I'm pretty sure I'm starting to confuse myself. πŸ™‚

L1 is the input, 20 turns clockwise of 0.8mm wire. It's wrapped over, the same direction clockwise, mutually inductive, to L2, which is 140 turns of 0.8mm wire. L3 is next to these, also 140 turns of 0.8mm wire, but wrapped counter clockwise. The lamp is on L2.

The pictures were taken at about 5.6 KHz, nevermind what the scope screenshot says, the counter was all over the place. I'm pulsing 12v from a power supply at 10% duty cycle. Yellow and purple traces are L2 and L3. L1 voltage is the blue trace.

The core makes horribly loud 8-bit video game music while I'm messing with frequency ranges, so I assume some bucking is taking place. But the scope shot doesn't look right, not sawtooth enough. I noticed comments on Madscientist's recent experiments about polarities and the exponential curve instead of sawtooth, but I believe I have my diodes correct. Still, not really seeing magnetic resonance I think.

Correct me here, I'm wrong somewhere I'm sure. The input coil raises the magnetic field, north pole to the left side as it's wound clockwise from the right. Current flows in L2, the same direction, and when L1 is turned off, what is left is the magnetic field which will want to collapse and create current the opposite direction, creating a north to the right side. But then the diode is wrong, as it would be blocking the current from the collapse. UNLESS, we see a flip of current polarity because of the magnetic resonance, Mr Preva. In that case, then we have the currents, and magnetic fields from L2 and L3 opposing, and we should see the sawtooth waveform. But I was under the, possibly ignorant, impression that the Mr Preva experiment worked because of the mismatch of coil turns, 7 to 11 I believe it was. But on these coils we want matching turns, in my case 140 to 140 turns, correct? Because we want matching magnetic fields when loads are applied, for a maximum fight against each other. Again, correct me if I'm wrong please.

So, again, I think I might be seeing a tiny bit of magnetic resonance, but not enough. I need to pick up a few new printed bobbins from a friend this week, but I will increase the turns on L2 and L3 to bring up the magnetic fields, maybe 200 or 250 turns to start. Also, I'll try to increase turns on L1 so more magnetic field is delivered. Maybe overdo that too a bit, so I can walk it down a few turns at a time to see what is best. In the meantime, any advice or pointers would be completely acceptable. πŸ™‚

I'll update more soon. And this has been fun getting back to research, so thanks to everyone that has contributed.

Marcel

 

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Chris posted this 11 January 2024

Hey Marcel,

Thank You for sharing, very good work!

COP >= 1.3

 

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Chris posted this 12 January 2024

Hey Marcel,

I would recommend adding a load to the shorted Lamp holder on POCTwo. Them measure and add to your Output.

Adding and adjusting the load, will give you an extra output, and when both outputs are approximately equal and as you have it, opposite, you will have nearly double the output for no extra input!

This is where Floyd Sweets E / 2 becomes E, because you now have E / 2 + E / 2 = E.

If the directions of the two signals are such that opposite H-fields cancel and E-fields add, an apparently steady E-field will be created. The energy density of the fields remain as calculated above, but the value of the E-field will double from E/2 to E.

Ref: Floyd Sweet - Nothing is Something

 

Just out of curiosity, what's your current CSA? Edit, dup, got it: 14 cm2.

Well done and good work My Friend!

   Chris

FringeIdeas posted this 13 January 2024

Ok, will do, I'll play around with loads. I think Monday I'll have a bit of time. I'll be sure to report.

Thanks,

Marcel

Chris posted this 15 January 2024

Thank You Marcel,

Its a fact, and you have kindly shown this, achieving Above Unity Results is not a hard feat!

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Best Wishes,

   Chris

FringeIdeas posted this 16 January 2024

Chris, you are welcome, glad I can help. And thank you for providing the information in the first place, quite a task you have accomplished.

Concerning my setup, I got a little time yesterday to play around.

Adding identical loads on the POC coils, 55V 3W lamps, at that frequency of 5.8 KHz or so, instead of shorting POC2, results in more of an exponential drop and the voltages and currents are about 1/3 on POC2 of what they are on POC1. That alone is a bit confusing due to the fact that I have my diodes setup so that the input first interacts with POC2, then POC2 interacts with POC1.

From here, I noticed I could either play with different loads, or drop the frequency until the voltages and currents seemed to match. Dropping the frequency, down to about 2.1 KHz or so, just made the decay faster, more exponential. And I'm guessing I'm getting away from any resonance in the coils, so I stopped experimenting with that.

I then played around with different loads. I got a decent voltage and current match, at around 4.9 KHz, which if you remember was my open-end resonance frequency of the POC coils. So with a 240V 20W on POC1, and a 240V 15W on POC2, voltages were about equal, but current on POC2 was still about 1/3 . And the decay again was more exponential.

POC1 is blue(V) and purple(A), and POC2 is green(V) and yellow(A).

The input coil:

In this configuration input was around 2.14 W mean, POC1 1.5 W rms, and POC2 800 mW or so rms. No real improvement just yet assuming my measurements were clean.

But I may have some faulty components. Looking at the blue and purple trace above,  they swing negative quite a bit which I'm sure adds to the rms value of POC1. I took a scope shot, closeup, of the input current (yellow), POC2 current (green), and POC1 current (purple). This is the order that I have them set up to interact with each other.

 

The X cursors are the input time of 4% duty 4.9 KHz. So when the input fires off, POC2 in green should be climbing and it's not. POC1 in purple (which has the input wrapped around it) is being pushed down. On the other screenshot above it shows both V and A are negative. I would imagine the diode should be doing it's job here.

Anyhoo, sorry for the long post that really went nowhere lol πŸ˜‚

I'm running to the hardware store later today to get a few new bulbs. Tomorrow I'll double check the hardware and give it another go.

Thanks!

Marcel

Chris posted this 16 January 2024

Thanks Marcel,

Thank You My Friend!

Normally I would say there is something wrong with your waveforms, but you already have shown, possibly due to the core, that the waveform can be a bit different and still get the same result.

Thanks for sharing the updated data!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

FringeIdeas posted this 25 January 2024

Hey Chris, looking for some advice.

I'd like to leave this thread as is, and move on to some other related experiments. But a few questions.

I was thinking of cutting my core to see if it makes any difference. But I'm wondering if you might know, or if there have been any experiments on, what difference it makes where the core is cut. For example, the Y axis in red under the coils, or the X axis in yellow equally between the coils.

I've read a little (somewhere) about where this bloch wall (middle of coils) vs the area where the fields meet (sides along X axis) might be, which is why I ask.

I'd also like to experiment with the input coil, different variations and positions. Not sure if I want to do this before or after the core cutting though.

Is there possibly something I should be looking at before I cut the core?

Appreciate the help as always, 

Marcel

Chris posted this 26 January 2024

Hey Marcel,

There is a lot to it, Core Reluctance, Magnetic Field Inverse Square Law and more.

Yes, if the Coils are closer together, then you have more Electromagnetic Induction occur, but the core, once cut may exhibit more core leakage... 

I would keep the core as is and experiment with another core.

Best Wishes,

   Chris

FringeIdeas posted this 26 January 2024

Ok sounds like a good plan.

Thanks!

Marcel

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