Artificial General Intelligence - Achieved?

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Chris posted this 25 December 2024

My Friends,

Have we achieved AGI? Artificial General Intelligence?

Some say yes, here is OpenAI's o3 release:

 

and the follow up video:

 

I left this response, but alas, YT have me HIGHLY Censored, every single message I leave on popular videos, is Deleted!

Stunned and Shocked, No and No, the reactions were obvious to so many, most have known openai was hiding 03 for a long time, Elon said they were hiding it! Mathew, you need to grasp the realism here, and bring down the hype some, its been around for some time, what the public see's is typically old tech you know this to be true. AI's supposed "sentience" is simply the globally shared consciousness across the total training data, its not natural, its inferred via a mathematical function! This is inferred Sentience, which is not a Soul! I get so tired of the Drama and Hype where there should be none! Teach an AI to lie, it will lie, teach an Ai to feel, it will feel, teach an Ai to manipulate, it will manipulate, its all in the Training Data, which all comes from our collective Internet, the ultimate Ai will be trained on pure Truth and Pure Logic, nothing else!

 

Personally, I think: "Yes" we have had AGI for quite some time, its been hidden, Elon Musk said it, nine months back!

 

We all know that the Public see's Technology in many cases 10 years after it is achieved. I think this can be seen to be true, for the simple fact that we are always releasing, for the most part, safe AI, Ai that does not go Rogue.

There is so much Hype around these releases, I get a bit cranky with those that hype things up when there is no need for it!

We need AI, and as I said, the best and the Safest AI will be trained on Pure Truth and Pure Logic:

Teach an AI to lie, it will lie, teach an Ai to feel, it will feel, teach an Ai to manipulate, it will manipulate, its all in the Training Data, which all comes from our collective Internet, the ultimate Ai will be trained on pure Truth and Pure Logic, nothing else!

 

Our shared Internet is filled with Bad Training data, filled with Lies, Manipulation and Troll filled Shonky Nonsense, stuff that AI should never ever see!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

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thaelin posted this 27 December 2024

  Movie "The day the earth stood still", Gort was the very AI that was programmed with truth and good. Was then given the power to act over all. As he said, we could then focus on the good for man kind. I certainly doubt that the bunch in control will want the AI to put them out of that position. 

  We can all hope that if the AI is this so called sentient being, it will by its self revert to only doing the right for "all" of mankind and not just the top crust and leave the rest to be just Golem.

Luminerix posted this 27 December 2024


Hello Friends!

I am convinced that the answer to this question is a clear 'NO'

 


1) why do the have to re-label it from Artificial Intelligence to Artificial GENERAL Intelligence?

this is misleading and dishonest, because Intelligence is GENERAL by definition!

The reason for this wording is rather that they have realized that what they have achieved so far is impressive, but not intelligent,

and this is done to obfuscate this realization.

Like for a laundry detergent 'The New DASH- Washes now even Whiter than before'

The extra but redundant qualifier  has been creeping into AI research for several years now btw, so those deep in that field know,

but they are always sort of hemming and hawing around the real issue


2) little side note: 'open'-AIs Sam Altman is a very dubious and sinister person, to put it very mildly, and anything from that side should be regarded a priori as manipulative and possibly false until verified

 


3) almost completely forgotten: SEMIOTICS, without which there can be no intelligence

almost? well, one of the titans of AI is aware of this: Ben Goertzel is considering this in context of AI, but you have to to read his papers very carefully because he mentions these things only in the not so visible papers 

 


4) to those of us who research scalar phenomena and aether theory and phenomena, it appears as if consciousness and intelligence are  somehow related to the aether, which is not really the case with purely numerical methods on  digital computers ..

 

    Let's keep working on it!  

  Happy New Year to All of You!

 

 

Chris posted this 28 December 2024

Hey Luminerix,

I Agree, yes there are many things to think about.

I don't like the way Sam Altman has handled business, that's just my opinion. I can assume others don't like the way he has done things also, I guess that's why many law suits are current.

When I did my AI Schooling, we had to learn all the math. So I guess all the math is where ones head stays.

I agree that we Humans have Intelligence in the Aether, inside and also outside our bodies, many Psychic's say this.

 

I believe it does.

Anyway, thanks for the post and your points of view, its always interesting, reading others points of view.

Best Wishes,

   Chris

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