Drasko's Asymmetrical Transformer Replication

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Drasko posted this 29 January 2025

Good Day to all,

 

New to this forum.

This is my attempt at building and replicating the asymmetrical transformer.

I have read many threads on this forum and am new to this technology, just trying to understand it and study it further.

The core is a 1"x1" CSA, 6"x6" L x W. Metglas. The Core has a gap of 4 folded pieces of Kapton Tape.

Below is a picture of the way the machine is currently built.

I have done my best to show winding and diode directions.

The primary coil is drawn separate from the core but is meant to be wound over-top of POCone.

There is a 52W 130v incandescent bulb in parallel with the led and capacitor. (The Capacitor and LED added to POCone output is just an extra load.)

 

I ask the experienced members to look over this and point out any errors I may have made or if this is correct the way it is.

Blue Print

Physical Build

 

This is the Scope Shot.

32v 300ma input from power supply.

2.3khz at 0.7% Duty Cycle

Resistors are 0.2ohm 3W

 

Purple trace is across the resistor for POCone(L2)

Yellow trace is across the resistor for POCtwo(L3)

Scope Shot

 

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/48z9JMB7os0

 

Questions:

Is this the Asymmetrical re-gauging ?

Observing the waveform shows me that the SLAPPING of the 2 coils occurs after POCone shows a reverse current, Is this correct?

 

 

Thank you all for taking the time and discussing this technology on this forum.

Look forward to continuing this research and helping others along the way.

 

Drasko.

 

 

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Chris posted this 30 January 2025

Hey Drasko,

Very nice! Thank You for sharing your progress!

Of course, everyone knows, the goal here, is to observe a Gain in Voltage and Current at time t, using a smart arrangement of Coils, Asymmetrically arranged. You have achieved this from what I can see, Well Done!

POCOne and POCTwo need to be in Magnetic Resonance, which means Equal but Opposite, Currents 180 Degrees out of Phase, Voltages also, approximately equal in magnitude, so yes, you have this right. This is the basis of Electromagnetic Induction, Lenz's Law is 180 Degrees out of Phase.

The trick is to get the voltage up, and as the Voltage goes up, we pump more Current, because: I = V / R

I will be sharing more soon, showing how to get the Voltage Up in these machines, because this is very important, as we have studied in the Common Mode Choke, Here: Timing, we see the Un-Generation of Voltages, because the Common Mode Choke is designed to use Electromagnetic Induction to remove Transients, or unwanted Voltages, using a Core, Coils arranged in a similar fashion to what we are working on currently.

FYI: See the Timing Thread.

Your waveforms are correct, you have done a really good job here! Thank You for Sharing your Work!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

FringeIdeas posted this 01 February 2025

Hey Drasko, nice. If I may comment a little.

Just a quick nitpick first 🙂 I believe your positive and negative signs on the POC1 and POC2 are backwards. These are induced voltages/currents. So the current would come out of the + terminal. The coil in this state is acting as a battery would, an active element. Vs. the input coil where we are feeding the coil so the coil is in a passive element state, so the + is where the current goes in (which you do have correct in your drawing). But not a big deal, your diodes and magnetic fields look just fine, so it looks like you get it.

But I also wanted to say, spend some time on this. While you are poking around with it, short and un-short POC2, different frequencies and duty cycles, and watch to see if the input current drops, as well as the bulb on POC1 should get a bit brighter. This is evidence that one of the POC coils is assisting the primary. This is also the point where you will possibly see the cop start to peek >1. This is also the point where I've seen a few people just throw their hands up and say there is nothing there. Sometimes it's difficult to locate, but keep at it and you will definitely find it.

As Chris always says, shorter coil lengths and bigger cross sectional areas are better. And play around with different polarities, meaning try switching the direction of the input and go through all the steps of shorting and un-shorting again. Just make sure POC1 and POC2 always oppose each other like you have them now.

And a special ask if I may.. if we are lucky enough to get more scope shots, is it possible to include the input?

And sorry, I meant to comment when you first posted, but it's been hell trying to find any spare time in life lately. Again, awesome job, nice to see the activity and experiments!

Marcel

Drasko posted this 01 February 2025

Hey Chris and Marcel,

 

Thank you guys for the kind words and guidance,

Chris:

Thank you for maintaining this forum and sharing the information on all these threads, PURE GOLD.

I'm happy to be a part of the forum and show others that it is possible to replicate these experiments, it just takes some effort on the bench and LOTS of reading and re-reading of the forum threads. But eventually light bulbs turn on and things slowly start coming together. Failures occur, Mosfet's blow up, diodes short, you hit a brick wall at times,etc etc. But eventually you start grasping whats happening and what needs to be done to achieve the effects required. I'm still learning and constantly reading and re-reading many threads and letting the information sink in while experimenting with it on the bench back and forth.

Regarding Timing:

If I understand correctly from reading the Timing thread the sequence of events that need to occur are:

  1. Primary Coil is pulsed with a certain Frequency + Duty Cycle + Amplitude, At this time the 2 POC coils are NOT a part of the circuit, meaning not shorted and not loaded in any way just sitting there OPEN circuit, while the primary coil ramps all the way to peak voltage.
  2. Once the Voltage is at peak and the Mosfet for the primary coil is turned off THEN the 2 POC coils are switched on and made a part of the circuit. Meaning POCone has the load connected to it as POCtwo is shorted via a diode to support POCone.
  3. Once the POC coils reach zero current flow, Un-short POCone and POCtwo, Making them an OPEN circuit once again.
  4. Repeat step 1.

My current understanding of what we are doing is creating a magnetic field around the core using the primary coil while the 2 POC coils sit open circuit. Once the magnetic field is at peak around the core we remove the primary coil from the circuit and introduce the 2 POC coils and they now have a collapsing magnetic field that is returning to equilibrium around them and we use that to do work.

 

Please correct me if I am wrong in any understanding of this.

My next step will be to replace each diode on the 2 POC coils with SCR's(Thyristors). Create a timing circuit that follows the sequence of events from above. Any guidance is appreciated. Will I run into any issues with using SCR's? My assumption is they will continue to conduct on each coil until that coil reaches zero current and then they will naturally stop conducting at that point. I will be using isolation transformers to pulse the SCRs with a quick pulse after primary coil Mosfet is turned off.

Marcel:

Thank you for the Recommendations,

 

Your not nitpicking😆 its important to point these little details out so others can be on the same page as we discuss this technology. I drew the polarities the way I did to just follow the RIGHT hand grip rule for the coils. It made sense to me this way, I'm just sharing my lab notes I'm sure there's many little things I missed, I'm sure down the road as i understand and grasp this more i will come back to these notes and see all the things i missed.

I have been experimenting with Shorting/Un-Shorting POCtwo and have found some points where the input current is not affected, but I have not yet found a point where the current drops. I will keep experimenting and trying to find that exact spot where the input goes down as the light gets brighter while POCtwo is shorted.

I will attempt the reversed polarity of the primary coil and keep the POC coils the way they are and see the results.

I have a 2 Channel Oscilloscope so I can only show 2 Waveforms at a time. Would you like the Primary coil shown with POCone or POCtwo .

 

No need to apologize in any way, we all know how life can be at times.

Thanks,

Drasko.

Chris posted this 01 February 2025

Hey Drasko,

My Friend, the key word there: "the sequence of events", you hit the nail on the head!

The Voltage Gained on the Partnered Output Coils is the Critical part to this puzzle! The higher the Voltage gained, the more Current is Pumped, because: I = V / R as we discussed. So the point here is to have a Control Mechanism, to get the Voltage to X Voltage, and then let the Partnered Output Coils do all the work for us.

Because the Output Current is in no way, linked to the Input Coil, it is Isolated, due to Superposition, to a degree. In other words, the Output Coils cancel any Reverse effects, back on the Input Coil, because: 1 + -1 = 0, net zero.

The Voltage Gained on the Partnered Output Coils can be achieved in a few different ways, of course, I decided to start with what I considered to be the safest way first, to keep people safe, the Slapping Together of the Partnered Output Coils at Magnetic Resonance. There are other ways, one of which I alluded to in a few different places, some of them being:

  • Tinman's Mosfet Switch - A Voltage Switch.
  • TVS - Transient Voltage Suppressor.
  • Triac - Light Dimming Circuit with a heavy duty Triac.

 

There are more that this, this is just some of what I have shared with the community. The Delayed Conduction Thread has been a confusing thread and maybe I have not been clear in some areas, I do try my best to be precise and accurate, but this thread alluded to this switching in at a Voltage X of the Bucking. Again, please remember, I have tried to allude to many ways of doing this but focused on the safest method first, for everyone's safety.

Again, the Goal is to get the Partnered Output Coils Voltage up to a satisfactory number, controlled, and then switch in the Bucking, because at the point of Bucking, the Coils can no longer Generate and Voltage, but they then start Pumping Current. This is a tit for tat, and we have to understand these processes first, to be able to then make advancements.

Safety first everyone, please.

Some of you will have read the story of me blowing about one and a half Centimeters if number 18 AWG out? It was completely gone. Well this is when I saw how dangerous this can be, and that some people need to learn the basics first, to be able to get the bench experience to keep these machines within a realm of Control for Safety.

I want to Thank You Guys and Gals, its so awesome, having good people that want to learn one of the most important subjects that Humanity will ever learn, this technology can Free Humanity completely! You here are spear heading this revolution! Thank You!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Drasko posted this 01 February 2025

Update:

Below is the Circuit I built for controlling the Primary Mosfet gate triggering (Yellow Trace) and the POCone + POCtwo SCR gate triggering(Purple Trace).

SCR Trigger

As soon as the Primary Mosfet turns off the POC Shorting SCR's turn on.

even if the duty cycle is adjusted the SCR's will not turn on until the mosfet turns off.

60% Duty cycle

Is this the correct way of doing the timing ?

Thanks,

Drasko.

 

Chris posted this 02 February 2025

Hey Drasko,

If POCOne and POCTwo oppose when you apply the Right Hand Grip Rule and Conventional Current, then you have it right.

POCOne has a Negative M.M.F and POCTwo has a Positive M.M.F, which has a Net M.M.F = Zero.

The Sawtooth Waveform is the Triangle: 

Ref: Parallel Wire or Bifilar Coil Experiment

 

The Voltage and the Current are in phase at time t, which is pure Power! Power Factor = 1.0

Best Wishes,

   Chris

FringeIdeas posted this 02 February 2025

Hey Drasko,

The scope shot request, yes input and POC1 would be fine really. I'm just interested, it's not totally important, thanks!

And while not trying to downgrade what Chris said about switching in at a specific voltage, or step on his toes any, I do want to mention that it is possible to get the effects without using a MOV, SCR, TVS, etc. The effect of manually shorting POC2 and seeing the input go down and the light on POC1 get brighter, should be possible with the basic setup as Chris shows, just diodes in the right polarity and a lamp on POC1.

Of course please experiment with the SCR, etc, as these types of components are used quite often in these machines it seems. I just wanted to mention that effects can be achieved without. It's something I will get back to at some point myself.

Marcel

Chris posted this 02 February 2025

Hey Guys,

Absolutely correct:


I do want to mention that it is possible to get the effects without using a MOV, SCR, TVS, etc.

 

Yes, there are many ways to make this work, it does work with just Diodes and POCTwo Shorted. We have seen this, on this thread already. To get the voltages up, we need to have an open mind and look at why it is difficult to get the voltages up in Machines that use Bucking Coils.

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Drasko posted this 11 February 2025

Hey Guys,

 

Below are all the scope shots,

Same running conditions as original post:

32v 300ma input from power supply.

2.3khz at 0.7% Duty Cycle

Resistors are 0.2ohm 3W (All scope shots are across these resistors)

Each section has 2 Scope shots which are the same just the second shot is expanded or zoomed in view.

Primary and POCone

Yellow is Primary

Purple is POCone

Primary and POCone 1of2

Primary and POCone 2of2

Primary and POCtwo

Yellow is Primary

Purple is POCtwo

Primary and POCtwo 1of2

Primary and POCtwo 2of2

POCone and POCtwo

Yellow is POCone

Purple is POCtwo

POCone and POC2 1of2

POCone and POC2 2of2

 

Thanks,

Drasko.

 

Drasko posted this 22 March 2025

Hey Guys,

Hope all is well.

Quick Build Update.

AMC1000 Core, Half of core is taped with red electric tape and the other half with black. The parts where the 2 core half's meet is also tapped over with electric tape and insulated creating a small gap when the 2 core half's are put together.

2 Partnered output coils, one is wound clockwise while the other is wound counter clockwise. One is red and the other is black. The bobbins are made from plexi-glass cut out on a cnc router and then glued with super glue.

The Primary coil is wound around  the outside of the whole core and can be made to slide up and down.

Primary Coil - 2 parallel runs of #10Awg, 4.25 turns

Red Coil #10Awg - 15 turns per layer, 3 layers, 45 turns total. Clock wise wound.

Black Coil #10Awg - 15 turns per layer, 3 layers, 45 turns total. Counter-Clockwise wound.

AMC1000 core 1

 

AMC1000 core 2

 

AMC1000 core 3

 

Will update when I have more.

 

Thanks,

Drasko.

Chris posted this 22 March 2025

Hey Drasko,

Nice build! Thanks for sharing!

This will work really well! Nice sharp, Cap Discharge, sharp, narrow, with the correct polarity on the Diodes, this will spring into live beautify!

Follow the Ideas in Nikola Tesla's Spark Gap Discharges and you'll go a long way!

Don't forget, always load your machine! Always have a Cap for smoothing and Collection!

Best Wishes

   Chris

Adam posted this 25 March 2025

Hello,

Very nice build, looks just like the one I made earlier.

I did not notice any change moving the Primary up or down the core, Please let us know if you have different results on that.

 

How are you planning on charging the primary discharge cap?

 

You may want to look at my last post on my thread for some ideas….

Adam’s Experiments and Understanding of coils and magnetism.

Charge cap in series with a small coil and then discharge cap to primary coil in Parallel !

It’s nice to see someone finally working on this setup.

A few things to keep in mind from my own experiments.

When you discharge the cap into the primary coil and the POC coils buck, the cap will recharge to about 75% in reverse polarity. That will be one resonance because it will then want to discharge immediately back to the primary in the revers polarity Back and forth. Depending on your diode placement.

Now if you are charging the cap in series with another small coil to build up the voltage.

Now this is the part I think most don’t see:

Then the series resonant circuit building up must be in sync with the primary discharge circuit or so to say the two resonant circuits must be in resonance with each other.

Two resonant circuits resonating at the exact same time!

Otherwise they will hit each other trying to charge the same cap in reverse polarity at some point costing lots of input energy.

I hope this is not confusing and helps.

Adam.

 

Chris posted this 25 March 2025

My Friends,

Adam is correct. I posted the link, Adam, I hope you don't mind, to your thread.

Its a real shame, a majority of the Population does not want to know the truth, they are blind to Truth, even though some say Humanity is waking up, well, its evident, majority are still very asleep!

Floyd Sweet gave us the following image:

 

The following text preceded the above image:

It would appear that a magnetic field is an electric field observed from a motional reference frame. Similarly, if we take a mass with a gravity field around it and we move the mass and create a mass current, a new field is also created. It is a different kind of gravity field with no source and no sink. It is called the Protational field also known as the "Lense-Thirring Effect". This field an its governing principles will  form the basis for future anti-gravity devices.

 

Conventional Science has other similar concepts:

But the basis, the Rise up, then the Decay Down, follows the Action Reaction Concept! Or, what goes Up must come Down! Some tie this to the Flyback Transformer, but this is only half of the picture.

There are lots of ways to get your Partnered Output Coils to work together, the 1/4 wave concept is one we have explored, where your POC have 4 times the turns as your input coil and trigger on the 4th harmonic.

Those that still think in terms of "Bypassing Lenz's Law", what we have been showing for over a decade now, works as you would expect, by "Bypassing Lenz's Law", however, this is not the right way to think about this technology, its simply Asymmetry of Electromagnetic Induction!

Free Energy Machines are very easy and those still searching are very dumb, we have given the world everything, shown working machines and given the theory freely, and those out there cant see the trees for the forest!

The setup I shared a while back:

 

Is worth exploring! Its Valuable! Alas, so many guru's will never ever make the effort, but will mouth off, spouting out complete nonsense that is baseless and non-sensical, because that's all they know! We call them: "Blow-Hards"

Enjoy your successes My Friends!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Drasko posted this 2 weeks ago

Hey Guys,

Just a continuation of experimenting and sharing results.

Input Coil is pulsed with following parameters:

420Hz

10% Duty Cycle

17V - 7.5A from power supply feeding a 5850uf - 440v Capacitor

Same Mosfet is used as original post.

22 Ohm incandescent bulb load with a 5850uf - 440v capacitor for smoothing

Voltage on capacitor: 121V DC

Yellow is Primary coil Current (current probe 10mv/A)

Purple is Secondary POC coils current  0.2ohm current resistor

22ohm load

2.5 Ohm Halogen bulb load with a 5850uf - 440v capacitor

Voltage on Capacitor: 31.7V DC

Yellow is Primary coil Current (current probe 10mv/A)

Purple is Secondary POC coils current  0.2ohm current resistor

2.5 ohm load

As the machine is loaded more the triangle waveform extends more showing more current pumping but the smoothing capacitor voltage drops.

As i increase the input voltage the output is also increased. But the output does not affect the input in any way except for lowering it the more you load the output.

This shows that the input is isolated from the output. Even if I dead short the POC coil output the input drops in current. amazing to see these kinds of effects.

setup

I have changed the Primary coil and wound 4Awg wire around the core as shown, Also the diodes being used are now Puck diodes. SD703C25S30L

diode

I have attempted using a flyback transformer and charging a capacitor with DC using a diode to rectify the high voltage and then discharging it into the primary, but unfortunately it keeps blowing the secondary POC diodes. I'm assuming that the reverse blocking voltage of the diodes is being exceeded and causing them to short. Will have to experiment more with this before I share results.

I have also tried placing 2 strong magnets in attraction mode on opposite sides of the spark gap with insulator paper in between and it changes the sounds of the spark gap from a mushy sparking sound without the magnets to a sharp CRISP sound when the magnets are added.Very neat observation highly recommend anyone using spark gaps the try using magnetic quenching. I will post a video of the differences next time i have that experiment setup.

 

Seeing the results with using the mosfet, I'm assuming the Discharge of the capacitor thru a spark gap is the same concept with the exception that the spark gap will dump the capacitor into the coil much faster, having a higher di/dt vs using a mosfet. While also using the magnets to Quench the spark gap.

When the test was done with the capacitor and spark gap, i used a flyback transformer with a zvs driver to charge a 0.5uf 5000v capacitor with dc using diodes to rectify the flyback. the spark gap was gapped with normal printer paper thickness.

Adam your page has lots of great information thank you for the contribution and i'm still very new to this technology so with my current understanding i'm not sure what you mean by what you said. When i have more understanding and experiments under my belt I will comment more on it.

Thanks,

 

Drasko.

 

Edit:

Adam posted this 2 weeks ago

Hello.

The transformer core you are showing would be your output core with the primary wire wrapped around it just like you have.

You would need another core just like Chris shows in his pictures above the round core would be what I call the input core or resonating core. That core is also hooked up to the big capacitor. You would pulse say 8 V and it would resonate up to say 500 V, and when it reaches the 500 V, it would jump the spark gap discharging the capacitor into the primary you have wrapped around the output core. But then you are working with high voltage and remember High voltage is dangerous!

But you can see this is how most of them, Don Smith, Tesla and others did it. Resonating a low-voltage up to a high voltage and then discharging the capacitor into your primary coil then the two POC coils buck. When they buck, they force power back up the primary coil, charging capacitor in reverse almost to full..... The POC coils also have their own outputs to the capacitor and bulbs.

Now the trick is you have two transformer cores the input core is resonating from your input pulse at whatever frequency and your output transformer core with the two POC coils buck and push energy back up the primary coil and that needs to charge the primary cap at the exact same moment in time of the frequency that the input transformer is trying to charge the same cap in resonance. If they don't both charge the cap in the same polarity at the exact same moment in time, then they will be fighting each other and will not work.

Remember when Don Smith shows the trumpet wave it's really the input core resonating up to the 500 V for the discharge into the output transformer core through the spark gap. In my opinion.

Both transformer cores are recharging that capacitor, and they both have to do it at exactly the same moment in time !

I personally think it would be good for people to just practice resonating a coil and a capacitor together to build voltage changing the size of the gap on the core. This is a big part that most people don't show or explain.

Have fun

Adam.

Chris posted this 2 weeks ago

My Friends,

I just want to say Thank You, I so very proud to have good genuine, hard working people working to progress their future!

The Voltage Generated on the POC is what gives you the Sawtooth Waveform:

 

The Higher the Voltage Generated, the more pumping, which you already pointed out. 

Good work, thanks for sharing!

Thank You, Thank You all so much!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Drasko posted this 2 weeks ago

Hey Guys,

 

Reading thru more posts and constantly stumbling on new information I have a few questions.

Measuring my POC coils resonance comes out to 123khz (max amplitude). Doing some basic math for finding the time period of 123khz we get:

1/f  = 1/123000 = 0.0000081301 = 8.13us

1/4 period of that being 2.03us.

Should the primary coil current ramp up duty cycle match the 2.03us which in turn would give a magnetic field which would be 1/4 period of the POC resonance ?

The current setup I have utilizes the inductive collapse of the primary to trigger the POC coils. POC Diodes oriented to block conduction during ramp up of primary and conduct during inductive collapse of primary.

Would it be more beneficial to ramp up the primary current(with a 2us duty cycle) and then switch in the POCs?

primary current would ramp up and then when it gets to peak turn off the primary and switch in the POCs right after switching off the primary. Would have to utilize a mosfet or SCR for this method and very accurate timing would be required.

Adam,

I somewhat understand what you are saying, my current approach to this machine at this moment in time is to use a DC pulse on the primary to trigger to POC coils(not sure if the ramp up or the inductive collapse is better for triggering the POCs). This may be the wrong way, i'm not sure, i'm still learning please forgive me, but that's where i am at currently.

Utilizing the trumpet wave build up, How would you ensure that you only discharge the capacitor via the spark gap with the correct polarity? just add a diode to ensure only the positive side can spark over?

Would you use the Ramp up of the Primary to trigger to POCs or the inductive collapse?

Thinking about your approach makes sense as i did a test with charging a large capacitor and then discharging it into the primary coil via an SCR with a quick pulse and once the pulse was done the capacitor recharged in reverse. So i know what you mean by this, and at this time i feel this would be quite the task to get perfect. In time i hope to achieve this if this it the correct way of doing it.

I greatly appreciate the help and continued guidance everyone.

Thank you

Drasko.

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Adam posted this 2 weeks ago

Drasko,

I had the same thought you did, but when you start looking at devices like Chris’s device with two cores above, it has no diode on the primary neither does any Don Smith device so how are they doing it and not having some pulses in reverse polarity?

So, I got a coil and a capacitor and started resonating them and I found out many many things. One of those things I noticed is that it fires through the Spark gap the same polarity every time or almost every time.

If you think about it clearly it makes total sense, and you can see it on the scope. Say you’re putting in 8 V and you’re building it to 500 V and it takes 20 up and down above and below zero times to build that 500 V. we will call everything above zero positive and everything below zero negative. So, it hits 500 V and jumps through the spark gap positive above zero now it’s at zero and it builds 20 more times and of course it’s going to be in the exact same spot above zero, so it jumps again positive each time.

Now if you change the input from 8 V to 7 V now it’s going to take 21 times up and down one cycle longer to build to 500 V and now when it hits 500 V, it may be on the negative side and jump the spark. So, you can control sort of whether it jumps positive or negative depending on what your input voltage is and how many times it has to cycle up and down. That’s why I think people should do experiments resonating a coil and a capacitor to see it on the scope and understand what’s going on and how to control it.

Yes, an SCR would ensure it fires in only One Direction. I would think it would have to be the exact right SCR very fast high amperage, so it doesn’t slow down the pulse to the primary coil. I have not used one on this device yet.

The inductive collapse works to see the effects, but you want to use the ramp up for the actual bucking process.

Have Fun

Adam.

Chris posted this 2 weeks ago

Hey Guys,

@Drasco - Please trust me when I say there is no right or wrong when it comes to Partnered Output Coils and this Technology.

I say this, because there is always more to learn! Always! The Thread: The Input Coil shows you why you don't use a Diode on the input side, but this is obvious under some conditions, not all.

In sharing what I have learned about Partnered Output Coils, I found I had to share the simplest form first and work on from there, but I very quickly saw that this can work many ways and under certain conditions. As you pointed out, the Resonance does work the way you pointed out, and I am so pleased you took the time to read and study what we have also seen.

Please Note: Over Driving the Input is easy to do, care on not putting too much Input Power in, and only getting a small power Output can easily be done. One needs to carefully turn up the input to find the best point of Input Excitation in most cases.

Also Note: For a 1/4 Wavelength, this can be tricky and I bet we could all have different points of view, but here is where I am currently at: POC Resonant @123Khz then this would be the fundamental, for 1/4 Wavelength, we would be looking at: f x 4 = 492KHz, which would be the 4th Harmonic, and checking: 

where f is the frequency, c is the speed of sound (approximately 343 meters per second at room temperature and atmospheric pressure), and λ is the wavelength.

First, let's find the wavelength:

λ = c / f
= 343 m/s / 123 kHz
= 2.77 meters

Since the wavelength is a quarter of the original wavelength, we can find the new frequency by multiplying the original frequency by 4:

f_new = 4 × 123 kHz
= 492 kHz

So, if 123 kHz is a quarter wavelength, the fundamental would be approximately 492 kHz.

 

So after checking, our Input Coil Would have an input pulse that would fit the 492 kHz wave shape.

I hope that makes some sense?

Please Note: This approach is different from what I have shown recently, at low Frequency. Different technique to achieve the same end result.

I have found the best approach to focus on the Generation of Voltage and then the Pumping of Current and always, always keep solid Loads connected to your POC.

Best Wishes,

   Chris

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Drasko posted this 4 days ago

Hey Guys,

Just quick build update:

Magnetic Quenching apparatus as first developed and designed by the great Nikola Tesla.

 

 

 

 

Will update when I have more.

Thanks,

Drasko.

FringeIdeas posted this 3 days ago

Drasko, looking nice!

I gave a feeble attempt at the magnetic quenching. But I used normal block magnets and I didn't see any difference. I noticed in the Tesla patents similar to what you are showing and it made sense, and then I got a bit side tracked and have not gotten back to it.

Definitely looking forward to seeing more!

Marcel 

Drasko posted this 3 days ago

Hey Guys,

 

Without magnetic quenching:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/J3btQi0hy1Y

 

With magnetic quenching:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SSHGfsrrN78

 

Hope all can hear the difference between the spark intensity with the magnetic quenching.

Same operating parameters on both setups.

ZVS driver running a neon transformer being rectified via High Voltage Diodes and stored into a High Voltage Capacitor then discharged thru spark gap going into coil.

My assumption until I probe is that the one with magnetic quenching has a higher di/dt and in turn should give a sharper rise and fall time. Like Chris has always said get your voltages up to pump more current. Slowly coming together, will have more as I experiment further. Tuning this to the necessary 1/4 pulse period seems like the goal. Approximately 2us in my case.

The camera doesn't capture the frame rate of the spark so at times you don't see it on the video, but in person you do.

@Marcel

Thanks for the compliment

I have noticed that the stronger the magnetic field in between the spark gap the sharper and crisper the spark sounds. Assuming faster rate of change in current (di/dt).

Also the closer you can get the magnets without arcing over also improves the effect.

So using anything but neodymium magnets wont really give a true test IMO.

Changing the distance between the magnets should change the rate of change. More to learn and further experiment with.

Thanks,

Drasko.

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FringeIdeas posted this 3 days ago

Hey yeah nice! Thanks for sharing! The difference is visible. May I ask where you got the cone shaped pieces? I'd like to give this a go at some point.

Marcel

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Drasko posted this 3 days ago

Hey Marcel,

Everything was made from scratch.

The cone shape pieces and brass holders were made on a lathe.

The cone shape pieces are made from motor shaft metal(1045) and the angle is roughly 30 degrees on the taper with the ends flattened to fit the spark gap being used.

The plastic bottom piece was made on a mill and is HDPE.

The magnets are just standard neodymium magnets purchased online. 40mmx40mmx20mm

Thanks,

Drasko.

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FringeIdeas posted this 3 days ago

Oh wow. Ok, I was hoping for a ebay link. 😄 But impressive, that is top notch handy work, very nice! I'll sees if I can find something similar online. Unfortunately I don't have any metal working tools, though it sounds like a lot of fun.

Marcel

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Drasko posted this 3 days ago

Hey Marcel,

 

Thanks for the compliment , took a few days to get it done the way I envisioned it.

Closest thing i found on ebay is called a blacksmith cone.

With a grinder and drill press you could make it work.

Just be very careful with the magnets. They are so powerful and tricky to work with when you get them close together. Things get stuck to them and they can crush fingers very easily so be careful with that aspect.

Also this setup utilizes higher voltages that are lethal and can kill you. So always be careful when working with high voltage and ensure at all times capacitors are discharged before handling them so accidents don't happen.

The spark gap also produces ozone which is not good to breathe in, so if you do experiment with this setup ventilate the room your in or do it outside.

 

Good luck,

 

Drasko.

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