Replication of Andrey Melnichenko's GLED

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Gucio posted this 20 May 2024

Hello friends. I wanted to present my replica of Andrei Melnichenko's GLED device.
I did it according to the original diagram as in the photo.

I followed Chris' diagram and instructions


I wound the core as shown in the drawing and added copper tape screens.

I got the following results. System power supply 2.74V, current 43mA

I received the impulses on a blue sine wave in accordance with the recommendations of the author of the project, but the frequency of 52hz is too low, so the system does not work independently.

I decided to use the LC calculator to calculate the 269 Hz resonance.

Substituting the data regarding the coil and frequency, it turned out that instead of 100uf I had to use a capacitor with a capacity of about 6.8uf.

I have marked all the changes I made in the diagram below.

Thanks to these modifications, I managed to get closer to the frequency of 269 Hz (blue trace).

I recorded a short video showing how the system works. Unfortunately, the system still does not work independently. I've reached the point where someone can advise me which direction I should go, what to change, hmm... My core is SIEMENS AL-6500. Primary winding 27 mH and secondary winding 54 mH, system supply voltage 2.71 V, current consumption approximately 19 mA. What do I need to focus on now to avoid mistakes?

Regards

 

 

 

 

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Chris posted this 22 May 2024

Hello and welcome Gucio_81,

This is fantastic work My Friend! I still have my setup on the bench, I should get it out and follow along with you.

I was thinking, I believe the reason my machine did not self run, is because I did not have enough turns on L2, the 54mH Coil. Getting the Voltage up on this Coil I believe is the key!

Thank You for sharing your progress!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Gucio posted this 23 May 2024

Thank you Chris for your words of encouragement. I think Akula's video is slightly manipulated because his oscilloscope view doesn't match the 54mH coil and 100uf capacitor data.

This is what the data should look like after positioning the probe and oscilloscope.

 

My goal is not to point out intentional misinformation, but sometimes errors do creep in. I believe Akula's flashlight could work on its own, but we need to focus on ruling out intentional and unintentional disinformation. I think that in a larger group, together we can make much more progress. I am publishing this information so that someone does not have to discover it again, because it only sets us back, not advances us.

 

The next changes I will make are those in the photo.

But before I start making changes, I'll see what happens by increasing the secondary winding from 54mH to 70mH. I will present the effects of my actions this weekend.

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Gucio posted this 24 May 2024

I was thinking, I believe the reason my machine did not self run, is because I w]did not have enough turns on L2, the 54mH Coil. Getting the Voltage up on this Coil I believe is the key!

Grzegorz

Gucio posted this 24 May 2024

My guess is that there is a third winding underneath the primary winding, under the copper tape, which is not shown in the diagram. The winding is short-circuited directly or through a diode.

Grzegorz

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Gucio posted this 24 May 2024

Akula cleverly hides the last winding

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Gucio posted this 24 May 2024

why didn't he unwind the last copper foil, why did he hold the spool so tightly before unwinding the PVC tape? Why didn't he take it apart when he started? he left a spool of copper tape and a third coil underneath it, which you can see. Not very big, but it's there.

 

There are many questions but why so little correct information?

Grzegorz

Gucio posted this 26 May 2024

Hello friends. Today I added some wire to the secondary winding. It was 54 mH and now it is 141 mH.

The changes I made are included in the diagram.

Winding ratio 1:5

The supply voltage is the same as last time, i.e. 2.71 V

The frequency of the blue sine wave decreased according to the pattern.

I wanted to see how he would modernize the winding again, increasing the number of turns on the secondary winding, and whether it would reduce the voltage consumption. The winding has copper screens as I mentioned at the beginning of the thread.
I noticed that the current consumption is actually unchanged, maybe 1mA less than before, i.e. about 18mA.


I would rather bet on measurement error. Below are screenshots from the oscilloscope.

I decided to replace the capacitor in series with the 141 mH winding, 6.8 uf with 2.2 uf, so as to obtain a resonance around 269 Hz. My capacitor had a slightly higher value, when measured it was exactly 2.52uf. Thanks to this, I fit perfectly into the resonance.
After the modification, I received larger peaks on the sine wave, but without any independent action.



I don't see anything special that I can boast about the results with this core right now, so in a few days I will present the results with a new winding according to this scheme.

Regards

 

 

Grzegorz

Gucio posted this 31 May 2024

Hi guys. Yesterday I had some time and tested one coil configuration according to the diagram below.

Power supply 2.74v, current consumption 40mA,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I wound the coil with a thicker wire with a diameter of 0.5 mm.
The circuit does not work independently. More tests tomorrow or the day after tomorrow.

 

Grzegorz

Gucio posted this 06 June 2024

Hello friends. I haven't had much time to experiment lately, but I tested something. My tests are as follows.

Current consumption approximately 60mA

No signs of independent work yet. I still have a lot of work ahead of me, so I need to think about what changes to make. Akula often talked about ferroresonance. Each core has a different one. Maybe it would be best to examine the core in this respect first and then fine-tune the system to the core?
I have a question: does anyone have any information on how to examine the core for ferroresonance and how to induce it? to measure?

Supposedly, one user named AVALON from "overunity.com" achieved ferroresonance.


Chris, I saw that you were referring to the topic, do you know anything more, is the data shown by "Avalon" true? Do you know anything more about it?

I finally got new cores because I'm not sure about the ones I'm using.




 

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Gucio posted this 06 June 2024

I did one more test on the old core. I performed the test according to this scheme.

 

Lack of independent operation of the system.

I will perform the next tests on the new AL-9500 cores

 

Grzegorz

Gucio posted this 06 June 2024

On this website https://overunity.com/14524/3v-ou-flashlight/495/

I found a quote from Akula's statement.

The quote was shared by a user  

semenihin-77

Я не думал что столь простое устройство так извратят  <img src=">.
В первом видео я говорил про резонанс, и что нужно его поймать, это никто не сделал.

Я продолжаю попытки увеличить мощность в разы, и сделал катушку с выносным конденсатором, для лучшей подстройки, теперь резонанс ловиться очень легко, а амплитуда синуса больше 100 вольт.

Я могу поделиться видео на этапе настройки, вы сами убедитесь что резонанс поймать легко, и не нужно все усложнять. <img src=">

Частота колебаний очень низкая, слышен за кадром писк трансформатора, обе его половинки в этот момент сильно прижимаются друг к другу. Общее потребление падает в резонансе. Так и должно быть.

На видео я убрал ключ коммутации, он при настройке не нужен, он нужен только для заворота питания.

In English translation

I didn’t think that such a simple device would be so distorted .
In the first video I talked about resonance, and that you need to catch it, no one has done this. I continue to try to increase the power significantly, and I made a coil with a remote capacitor for better adjustment, now the resonance is very easy to catch, and the sine amplitude is more than 100 volts. I can share a video at the setup stage, you will see for yourself that it is easy to catch the resonance, and there is no need to complicate everything. The oscillation frequency is very low, the squeak of the transformer can be heard behind the scenes, both halves at this moment are strongly pressed against each other. Overall consumption drops in resonance. That's how it should be. In the video I removed the switching key; it is not needed during setup, it is only needed to turn off the power supply.

 

The quote referred to the drawing below.

I wonder where the people from that thread are? why are they silent?
Does anyone on this forum have experience with a replica of this device? I'll be happy to listen and share experiences

Grzegorz

FringeIdeas posted this 06 June 2024

No experience myself. Soon maybe after some other experiments. But I am very much enjoying this thread. Please keep up the good work!

Marcel

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Gucio posted this 06 June 2024

Thank you, Marcel. I'm not going to give up anytime soon. For now, I'm trying to absorb all the information about this replication. Now I'm trying to understand what ferroresonance is and how to cause it in ferrite. It would be good if someone could post some links regarding this area.

Regards

Grzegorz

FringeIdeas posted this 06 June 2024

Well there is this thread that may be relevant, if you had not been through this yet.

YoElMiCrO's Ferro-Magnetic Resonance

That is partially what led to the Our Flashlight video on Chris's YouTube channel, if I'm correct.

And you found the A Valon stuff, and I assume his videos. Good stuff, wish there were more details.

I'm honestly up in the air about if there was an actual resonance in the core material, or if this is just a variation of the Mr Preva experiment. But don't listen to me, I have not done enough reading or experimenting in this area just yet, and don't understand enough to say or help. It's a really interesting area, would be nice to join in the experiments, but not just yet for me.

Looking forward to seeing more.  

Marcel

Edit: ah and I was going to say, sometimes the search on this forum can be a bit touchy depending on your browser. If you go to google and type something like "site:aboveunity.com ferroresonance", or variations, the search results are usually pretty good.

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Gucio posted this 06 June 2024

Well there is this thread that may be relevant, if you had not been through this yet.

YoElMiCrO's Ferro-Magnetic Resonance

That is partially what led to the Our Flashlight video on Chris's YouTube channel, if I'm correct.

And you found the A Valon stuff, and I assume his videos. Good stuff, wish there were more details.

I'm honestly up in the air about if there was an actual resonance in the core material, or if this is just a variation of the Mr Preva experiment. But don't listen to me, I have not done enough reading or experimenting in this area just yet, and don't understand enough to say or help. It's a really interesting area, would be nice to join in the experiments, but not just yet for me.

Looking forward to seeing more.  

Marcel

Edit: ah and I was going to say, sometimes the search on this forum can be a bit touchy depending on your browser. If you go to google and type something like "site:aboveunity.com ferroresonance", or variations, the search results are usually pretty good.

Thank you for pointing out the thread about ferroresonance. I looked through it once, but I will read it in more detail because any information in this area is valuable.
I have a simple single channel switching system, so I will need to test this circuit to find ferroresonance. Avalon used a two-channel controller, but for now I have to try this circuit.

I will publish something in this regard in a few days.

Grzegorz

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