My Friends,
I am going to start a Mirror thread, which was started by OUR Member Verpies, and a topic that was positively supported by OUR Member Tinman, called What is a Field ?
Quote from: TinMan on 2024-05-15, 05:20:28...offer some more explanation on that which is yet to be explained, such as -- what is the magnetic field?Quote from: TinMan on 2024-05-17, 09:04:14
When some one asks how a train pulls the carriages, you don't answer by saying-the train pulls the carriages.
I need to know what the engine is, and how it works.Quote from: Allcanadian on 2023-12-30, 23:00:52
Tinman makes an important point here.
A quantitative model of a phenomenon is not the same as a conceptual understanding of the phenomenon.
Knowing the Faraday's law or Lorentz force equations or Biot-Savart law might give you a quantitative understanding how a voltage or force varies in space or time under certain conditions but it does nothing to explain what a force is (nor a force field) nor space nor time.
I have been lurking and biting my tongue not replying to these fundamental questions not because I do not know the answers but because repeatedly I have been finding out that people are not capable of a paradigm shift necessary to comprehend my answers. This is exemplified by my most recent attempt to tackle these issues on this forum and when Allcandian tried to tautologically explain what a field is in terms of fields and axiomatic particles emitted by stars and called on me to "...get back to reality and common sense" :I mean, according to your logic, a 2x4 is just the relationship between the spaces on my tape measure not a piece of lumber. I think we need to get back to reality and common sense....I just gave up on even replying to him.
Quote from: TinMan on 2024-05-17, 09:04:14
Now a clever trucker down under stirs this up again:The standard model of the field shows no reason why unlike poles repel, or like poles attract.
Can you explain what is coming out and going into the PM body that causes this attraction between unlike poles, and repulsion between like poles?Quote from: TinMan on 2024-05-17, 09:04:14
I am all ears if you can explain as to what the field is, and how it makes like poles repel, and unlike poles attract.Quote from: TinMan on 2024-05-17, 09:04:14
Telling me that it exerts a force on a charge is not telling me what is exerting a force on that charge.Quote from: TinMan on 2024-05-17, 09:04:14
So we know what places a force on an electron within an electric field.Quote from: TinMan on 2024-05-17, 09:04:14
I want to know what places a force on the electron in the magnetic field.Quote from: picowatt on 2024-05-15, 05:52:27
Why do these opposite charges repel? What is the force that causes that?That is a good question despite the silly mistake between "repel" vs. "attract".
What is a Field ?
I believe Floyd Sweets Writings is a very good place to start! Floyd talks about Orientated Space Quanta and ideas of Subatomic Particles that have Polarity and in some cases a Charge and a Mass.
The reader of this concept of an infinite source of infinite energy should try not to think in terms of so called rational concepts of scientists of the past or present. When dealing with magnetic phenomena; keep in mind, things are not what they may appear to be. A rash statement will be made here that surely will offend many members of the scientific community: A magnetic field consisting of so called abstract lines of force or flux, contrary to popular belief is not a property of an electromagnet or a permanent magnet, any more than water is a property of the pipe it flows through. It is a property of a universal space field consisting of incoherent individual packets of energy, magnetic in nature. These packets or quanta, are magnetic ash, a spin-off of the Big Bang some 15-20 billion years ago. All space is permeated by these dimensionless quanta as related to our three dimensional space. However, these bits of energy are not absolute fundamental particles of matter, but do reflect force on all other particles of matter within a field of influence. Thus the very recent discovery of a flaw in Galileo’s work regarding the acceleration of falling bodies is explained. The challenging of both Galileo’s and Einstein’s concepts is based on the existence of a fifth force recently discovered to exist. This force is called “hypercharge”, it is described as weak and local, weak due to incoherency, local due to the primitive state of the art in dealing with abstracts outside the realm of three dimensional entities. Science is trying to measure things in other dimensions with three dimensional rulers, an impossible task. One has only to observe the behaviour of matter in outer space to understand what’s going on in inner space. One is a mirror of the other – one approaching negative infinity, the other positive infinity. Neither will ever reach the respective infinities, therefore the ultimate fundamental particle will never be isolated. Neither will the expanding universe reach positive infinity. Infinity is as far away from the farthest galaxy as it is from us. Why the field of a magnet is not the property of the magnet: First the electromagnet – it takes power from a source to initiate and bring to steady state the field of the magnet. Once the field is stabilised and the exciting current is no longer changing, no further power is needed from the source. The only power required is that needed to support the I2R losses due to the ohmic resistance of the conductor comprising the coil of the magnet. This loss appears as heat. Now we have a magnetic field, a potential source of energy in existence without support of the source of power to the coil. True, the moving charges through the copper conductor are accompanied by a magnetic field, also true this field requires no power from the source. As stated, the only power is that supporting the I2R losses. Then the field due to the moving charges is not a property of the current drawn from the source but a property of incoherent energy quanta in the surrounding space interacting coherently with fields produced by moving charges on the electrons in motion through the coil. Current is deemed as a quantity or number of charged particles moving from to in time t, or as the charge transferred in one second by a current of one ampere. The coulomb is the charge on 6.24 x electrons. Electric fields are due to the presence of charges. Magnetic field effects are due to the motion of charges. Current is the net rate of flow of positive charges. This is a scalar quantity.
In My opinion, this is a GEM! Golden!
Of course, as always, I have shown you experiments that can very easily prove Floyd Sweet to be correct!
In short, a Field is an Area in Space, abiding by the Inverse Square Law, where the State of the Fundamental Aetheric Field, has Magnetite and Direction and sometimes a difference in Charge Density. Normally, where there is no field, the Area has complete Randomness, and the Fundamental Aetheric Field has no orientated structure and no Magnitude. It is Random.
The Fundamental Aetheric Field has some of the following properties:
- It has no net Charge.
- There is no Net Direction or Magnitude.
- It is Fluidic in Nature.
- It permeates all Space, it is everywhere at all times.
- and more...
Best Wishes,
Chris