Magnetic Field Observations

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Chris posted this 12 August 2017

I would like to share what I have learned, and what I think the Magnetic Field is, the geometry of it, and some experiments to find out more about the Magnetic Field.

Again, I have covered much of this information in my PDF document: Guidelines to Bucking Coils

The following images show how I believe the Magnetic Field to be and its geometry when changing in Time:

  

Some simple experiments and some observations can guide these above conclusions:

 

 

Below, I tried to show, how the Magnetic Field lines shown by Ferro Fluid, are not as the Iron Filing Experiment shows, not looped back on themselves, but as Howard Johnson showed: (PDF attached below)

 

The best image I have found with Ferro Fluid is shown below:

The Magnetic Field is an Inverse Square Law Force Field, that means as distance is travelled away from the Source of the Magnetic Field, the Magnetic Field gets weaker.

 

Thomson's Model of the Electron Configuration

Corkes in water with Magnetic Needle attracted to a Solenoid Magnet.

 

The above very interesting experiment is from the following video: @39.38

 

 

It is well known in Science, that a long Solenoid has no Magnetic Field at all on the outside of the solenoid: @30:17 

 

 

I think we need to see, the geometry of the Magnetic Field may very well not be what we have been taught in school, and in point of fact, many researchers have shown many experiments that question the Iron Filing Experiment:

PDF also attached below of the above image. Astro Physics also now agrees with this model of the Magnetic Field: interplanetary magnetic field (IMF)

  

Which explains this basic motor:

 

 

The problem that no one seems to realise with the Iron Filing Experiment is that Iron is Magnetic and like the Paper Clip Experiment, each paper clip will attract magnetically to the next.   

What is the Magnetic Field, it is a Tornado of normally unfelt, undetected, Aether, the medium we swim in, Space Time, the medium that is universal, that carries Electromagnetic Waves, that propagate all the Fields of Nature. The medium which enables Light to travel. Quintessence, the fifth element.

When Technology works because you understand something, its a sure bet you understand correctly.

   Chris 

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Zanzal posted this 13 August 2017

The Walter Lewin MIT lectures are best I've seen. Although I've never finished them all, that one in particular is my favorite. I would recommend them highly to anyone who hasn't watched them.

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Vasile posted this 13 August 2017

Mainstream science does not entirely and correctly theorize how a transformer works because if the lines of flux are almost all in the core (aprox. 99%) and 1% is leaked flux,how come we get that high of a power transfer from primary to secondary if only this 1% leakage flux has the ability to cut the secondary wires.

Relate to this topic watch from 34:47

 

 

P.S.: Maybe the power in the secondary does not directly come from the primary

Chris posted this 13 August 2017

Hi Vasile - Thanks for the post.

Electrostatics is a field with many undiscovered possibility's, I am sure. Worth study for those that have plenty of money and the right equipment and most importantly the right skill set!

However, Transformers are not an Electrostatic Device.

The Magnetic A Vector Potential, one and the same as the Motional E-Field (E = B x V), are well known and well utilised today. It is a shame Eric did not know about it.

 

 

Richard Feynman is a very good resource (PDF's attached below), George I. Cohn (Flux Linking Law) and many other resources also exist that explain the Magnetic A Vector Potential. As Floyd Sweet said, this field is related to Gravity, it can not be shielded, William J Hooper is also another very good resource, a pioneer in the study of the Magnetic and Electric Fields in those days. Really to be credited for as much as we know today!

It really is well worth studding this. In my years of research, 9 out of 10 Energy Machines use this exact same Physical Effect, the Magnetic A Vector Potential as do Partnered Output Coils. Walter Lewin also explains it in the Long Solenoid Video above.

 

 

 

Richard Feynman MP3 <<<--- please take some time to listen to it.

The movement of the Magnetic Field, creates the Magnetic A Vector Potential, it is purely an Electric Field. If the Magnetic Field is not moving, then there is no Magnetic A Vector Potential, no Electric Field in Space..

 

   Chris

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alohalaoha posted this 13 August 2017

Sorry Chris, old fellow, I must correct your last statement because Vector Magnetic Potential A→ is the PRIMARY SUBSTANCE and REAL ENTITY ....

In principle, generalized "magnetic field" can be introduced as a 4-vector, i.e. 3 spatial components of the "ordinary" H vector magnetic field Hx.Hy.Hz plus the scalar one. One we can introduce the generalized potential as a 4-vector, simply supplementing 3 spatial components of the Vector Magnetic Potential Ax. Ay, Az by one component of the scalar potential. This is how the so-called "electromagnetic potential" is introduced in modern physics.

Chris, only Vector Magnetic Potential A→ is fully capable of giving us a full description of all these "magnetic" and "induction" phenomena. Magnetic fields, are real spatial derivatives of the vector potential, To illustrate this conclusion by experimental data is a fact that around current carrying copper conductor of high conduction current density, near absolute zero temperature /several degres aboove/, ordinary H vector magnetic field does not exist in space around conductor, WHILE electric field DO EXIST, because....

Or more, here is another very simple experiment in which every one can see with own eyes that Vector Magnetic Potential easy explains the phenomenon of electro-magnetic induction in cases when the concept of a vector magnetic field can not do this - because don't exist in experimenT.... but what really exist is the PRIMARY SUBSTANCE, Vector Magnetic Potential A→

 

p/s. The scalar potential developed by a spinning current-carrying solenoid

Joseph B Tate

Journal of Physics D: Applied Physics

DATA: 01-11-1974

http://arch.neicon.ru/xmlui/handle/123456789/1909523  

Regards

Aloha

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Chris posted this 13 August 2017

Hi Aloha, I agree, yes, I think you have covered in more detail.

Its true guys, The Magnetic A Vector Potential is the root cause of all the fields we know today. Its so important!!! Its true when they say we live in an Electric Universe, filled with Magnetic A Vector Potentials. Its all Charge with dynamic movement, much cancelling each other because it appears to be non uniform.

Please study the The Magnetic A Vector Potential if you have not already, it will save you a world of time to know about it.

   Chris 

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Vasile posted this 14 August 2017

The movement of the Magnetic Field, creates the Magnetic A Vector Potential, it is purely an Electric Field. If the Magnetic Field is not moving, then there is no Magnetic A Vector Potential, no Electric Field in Space..

I observe most of us are caught only in magnetism which is a shame because there is another side which is electrostatics.An interesting phenomena that may interest is the interaction of a magnet and an electret(the analog of a magnet).I quote from wikipedia:

Electrets, like magnets, are dipoles. Another similarity is the radiant fields: They produce an electrostatic field (as opposed to a magnetic field) around their perimeter. When a magnet and an electret are near one another, a rather unusual phenomenon occurs: while stationary, neither has any effect on one another. However, when an electret is moved with respect to a magnetic pole, a force is felt which acts perpendicular to the magnetic field, pushing the electret along a path 90 degrees to the expected direction of 'push' as would be felt with another magnet.

Something appears to add up.

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Chris posted this 14 August 2017

Hey Vasile, I did do a lot of study on Electrets and the history of them when the VTA Storey was changed.

I can tell you with certainty, Floyd Sweet did not use an Electret in his early VTA all the way up until Generation Four ( > 500 Watts COP = ∞ ), at least. After that, I can not be certain.

After studding the Electret I learned that an Aluminium Box would have shorted out the Electret and it would have had absolutely no benefit to the system.

I have a Rule I live by: Believe nothing you're told, only let Facts do the talking.

I think this way, because of the following Quote:

Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me

- George Horne

It is sad but true, the Vacuum Triode Amplifier story has seen so many miss-truths told, its just not funny! If I told you about the money I spent, the experiments I have done, the thousands of Hours I have spent... Only some of which I posted on my Website...One must learn very quickly, look at the Facts.

We have working Devices, Proof of Concept Devices, shown to you by many people! Some Independent, some not, none of the devices shown are Electrostatic in Nature, there is no Magic to this!

There is No Magic to this!

 I urge everyone, Think Simple, force yourself to not over complicate what does not need to be complicated!

 

   Chris

 

P.S: If you wish, please feel free to create another Thread for Electrostatics, we are really diverging from topic.

 

alohalaoha posted this 14 August 2017

Chris any info about secret jewish world governement corporation, where working Sweet's VTA device, his lab research papers and all his equipment has gone ?

p/s.the first step in our win is to recognize and study our enemies of FREE ENERGY ..... and keep eyes on them.....because all in this artificial teraforming world is 180 degree flipped.

 

on the TOP of whole matri-X are extraterrestrial beings - down their pawns from SJWG.

 yes GOLDEN RULE - Believe nothing you're told, only let Facts do the talking.

Believe nothing you're told, only let Facts do the talking.

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Chris posted this 14 August 2017

Hi Aloha, we should concentrate on the topic, not diverge, or we will loose momentum.

But yes, we do have a job to do, we must stick to hard provable Facts.

   Chris

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Vince posted this 2 weeks ago

I have seen many discussions re magnetic lines of flux over the years.  Many have observed that passing a bar magnet over a wire generates raucous noise within ear phones or speakers that is consistent with a non homogeneous field interpretation.

If you pass a magnetic field through a stack of steel sheets you can observe them separating.  I believe this is due to flux leakage over, and under each sheet.  The flux being of same polarity is in self repulsion. 

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As we know magnetic flux within the material of a permanent magnet is also non-homogeneous.  There are domains within the material that are magnetized and areas that are not.  Flux passing through from domain to domain in line with the flux flow path would also, I imagine, repel flux of nearby domains perpendicular to the direction of flow in the same way. 

Therefore it would be reasonable to assume that the flux does not leave a magnet in an homogeneous field either.  It is likely passing through discreet domains on, or near the surface of the magnet, and perhaps thereafter remains in paths that continue to repel each other.  Below is a very rough image of what I imagine might be occurring.  The flux exiting from surface domains.

Magnetic flux exiting, or entering magnet.

I imagine that if the above image bears any resemblance to actual reality these whirls of flux (virtual photons?) would also tend to wind around each other in a similar way to a flow of plasma.  Thereby making ropes of whirling flux that by mutual repulsion spread out away from each other before coming closer again as they re enter the magnet.  If I had time and talent I would have drawn them that way, but I have neither.

What do you think?

 

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Chris posted this 2 weeks ago

Hey Vince,

My View seems to be very close to yours. Anything is possible and the very next Experiment could prove either way.

   Chris

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mrblobby posted this 2 weeks ago

This video arrived in my inbox this morning, very interesting.

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Vidura posted this 2 weeks ago

Mr.Blobby, this man has a serie of very interesting videos on his channel, it's worth looking thru.

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Idea1man posted this 2 weeks ago

Here's an explanation of magnetism that seems to be correct. The electron spin direction seems to govern attraction and repulsion.

 

 

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mrblobby posted this 2 weeks ago

This chap made a couple of very interesting videos based on Ken Wheeler's ideas,
I like most of Kens thoughts on magnetism, they seem to 'resonate' laughing with me.

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Idea1man posted this 2 weeks ago

Yes, mrblobby, Ken Wheeler's material has been posted here. The problem is no one can understand what he is talking about.

Can you explain what "counter-SPACE" is? What does he mean by inertial plane? Why is it dielectric, electrically insulating?

It appears he agrees with Walter Russell, but it takes years to understand that level.

Keep watching Wheeler's videos. He the most arrogant man. He keeps claiming that he's the only person in the world that understands it. I'm sick of him.

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mrblobby posted this 2 weeks ago

Hi there Idea1man.
I competently agree with you on hard to understand Ken's work re: the language he uses.
I think it's always good to separate knowledge/information from the messenger.
Whilst I completely agree with your evaluation of him, that isn't what this forum is about is it. 
'Everyone you meet is fighting a battle you know nothing about. Be kind. Always.'
I think from what he has made public that he lived through a pretty awful time with his wife dying slowly from cancer.
It took me about a solid 6 months of listening to him before I started to grasp what he is talking about.

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Marathonman posted this 2 weeks ago

Electricity is always  driven back to it's self (counter space). the third dimension which is canceled by two dimensions of magnetism leaves one dimension  of current flow. it has nothing to do with magnetism as is just a by product of nature. magnetism is not the direct cause of current flow but the indirect cause of current flow. magnetism is the direct opposite coin of the flip side of Electric flow which is the governing mechanism to current flow.

you may or may not agree but Magnetism is the governing factor to current in our Universe. it does control it or our Universe would destroy it's self.

Marathonman

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Vince posted this 2 weeks ago

This is very impressive.  After going to his profile on Youtube I was even further impressed by the man himself.

Sharply focused on uncovering truth.  Thoughts and observations that are simple, coherent and tightly focused.  Unencumbered by a need to feed a ravenous ego or the endless needs of the materially focused world outside.  It is men like this that achieve so much with so little, having never lost the simple curiosity of a child, coupled with an aggregation of knowledge and wisdom.

I'm grateful to have seen this.

 

Idea1man posted this 2 weeks ago

Marathonman   ...   You have a unique grasp of truth. You should write a book so we can see more of what you are talking about.

 

Vince  ..  Are you talking about UFOpolitics or Ken Wheeler? UFOpolitics is really a good channel.

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Vince posted this 2 weeks ago

Vince  ..  Are you talking about UFOpolitics or Ken Wheeler?

Sorry Idea1man, I should refresh the page more often before I write comments.  I went to   Mike Palazzola's Youtube channel after seeing mrblobbey's posted video and spent quite some time watching his videos.  As is often the case other things caught my attention on Youtube and I watched them too. 

I was referring to Mike Palazzola.

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Vince posted this 2 weeks ago

UFOpolitics is really a good channel

It's been a long time since I have looked at UFO's channel Bob, or any channel as such.  Thank you for reminding me.  It is much more extensive than the last time I went there.

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Vince posted this 2 weeks ago

Eric Dollard describes counter space as the space inside materials Bob.  Whether this is what the overall understanding is, or not, I have no idea.

Vince posted this 2 weeks ago

It seems that much has been learned about magnetic fields.  The videos linked herein contain a lot of very interesting material and certainly food for thought.  An entire banquet in fact.

However, I am a simple minded man.  I see much here about the magnetic fields of, magnets.  These magnets are composed of a great many more magnetic domains, which are in fact aggregations of many many more individual magnetic fields.  Trying to digest all of this, to me, is like trying to swallow an entire beast in a single mouthful.  I still don't understand what a magnetic field is at it's most fundamental level.  The magnetic field of a single electron, or proton.

How can the field around a solitary charge have either a north or south pole?  It would seem that it takes a change in permeability for polarization to occur in the first place. Is there a north or south pole within a magnetized toroid? I can't imagine that there could be.  

It is like trying to fully comprehend how a 560 tonne A 380 manages to fly without yet understanding how a kite does.  When I was a child I would repeat what I heard and pass that off as knowledge.  Eventually I learned that memorizing facts is not the same as real comprehension.  

I can't begin to even try to comprehend something like this in it's macro form, if I know so little of the the fundamental unit. 

Starting small and adding to that in steps is progressive.  I need to progress from the fundamental I think.  Is it just me?  Am I completely missing something?

 

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Idea1man posted this 2 weeks ago

==I can't begin to even try to comprehend something like this in it's macro form, if I know so little of the the fundamental unit. Starting small and adding to that in steps is progressive.  I need to progress from the fundamental I think.  Is it just me?  Am I completely missing something?==

Vince  ...   Magnetism must be the most difficult thing to understand. And then there's several different theories about it, such as "is there a magnetic current, or not". The latest info, I'm looking at, says that it's single unpaired electrons that make a metal magnetic. They say paired electrons spin in opposite directions thus canceling the electric-magnetic forces. It makes sense that electrons spin, since planets, stars, and galaxies spin. I guess that the electrostatic force is the magnetic force at a different angle.   ...  Bob

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Vince posted this 6 days ago

Ken Wheeler shows an experiment with a very large magnet and a gyroscope, and asks us to explain the observations in the video below "

The gyroscope under those conditions is acting as an homo-polar generator without power takeoff.  As we know a conductive material spun in an axial magnetic field will develop charge distribution around the rim via Lorentz force.  The distributed charge is also spinning such that it's own resultant magnetic field reinforces the causative field.

If the spinning disk is moved to the side the field is no longer evenly distributed through the disk and eddy currents develop as the charge around the rim tries to redistribute itself.  These eddy currents are the reason it slows down more quickly at the side. 

If this is incorrect I would be gratefully corrected.  If someone else has a better theory, I would like to see that too.

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mrblobby posted this 2 days ago

Vidura posted this 2 days ago

MrBlobby This is far the best visualization of magnetic fields I have seen!

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mrblobby posted this yesterday

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Aetherholic posted this yesterday

Interesting video but......

Zeeman effect..................... bah humbug!

What is a flame? Release of dielectric charge.

What is a magnet? A dielectric object.

What is magnetism? The dielectric field in motion.

So of course magnetism will affect anything which is in dielectric release or is a coaxial circuit such as light.

Just my 2 cents worth.............

Aetherholic - One truth, One field

Idea1man posted this yesterday

Vince Quote: "a conductive material spun in an axial magnetic field will develop charge distribution around the rim via Lorentz force.  The distributed charge is also spinning such that it's own resultant magnetic field reinforces the causative field."

Thank you, Vince, for that Wheeler video, and your explanation. I'll quote you on my Tesla Unipolar topic. The magic of the symmetric circle (disk) when centered.

Not noted by Wheeler, the direction of the spinning disk, and the pole of the magnet, determine whether the spinning is reinforced or opposed.

 

Idea1man posted this 22 hours ago

I'm coming out against Ken Wheeler's description of the magnetic field. [Note that I would not make this comment directly to Wheeler on any site that he is on.]

Mr. Wheeler appears to have a mental problem. Without proof, he frequently claims that he is the only person on Earth who knows this or that. And he also claims, at times, that this is the first time something has been shown in the history of the world. He obviously cannot prove these claims. His personality is that of a cult leader. Those repeating his claims are sucked in as cult followers. In addition, most of his claims are false.

(1) There is no Bloch, or Neel Wall, in a permanent magnet.

(Ref. Wikipedia: Domain Wall.) In magnetism, a domain wall is an interface separating magnetic domains. It is a transition between different magnetic moments and usually undergoes an angular displacement. Bloch, and Neel, are two types of domain walls.

Permanent magnets have uniform alignment in the whole magnet. All of the atoms point in the same direction. Coloring half of a magnet red, and half blue, and naming poles as north and south, confuses people into thinking that there are two different monopoles in each half. There aren't monopoles. Each atom has north and south pointing poles.

What about that white line in the middle, in viewing film.

(Ref. http://www.wondermagnet.com/viewingfilm.html ) It turns dark when the field lines are perpendicular to the surface, and it turns light when the field lines are horizontal, i.e., across the surface. If a magnet is placed under it, with one of the poles facing the film, it will show the magnet as dark with a light outline.

There's a white line all around the face of a magnet's pole. There's a white line between two magnets stuck together. The white lines are not Bloch Walls. The white line in the middle of a magnet shows that there's an equal number of polarized atoms to the north of the line, and to the south. It is therefore a neutralized area, with equal opposing forces. So the direction of the magnetic "lines" changes.

Also, if you stick magnets together, the higher magnet mass creates a stronger magnetic force. Bigger is stronger, with magnets. It's more atoms in the same alignment.

(2) There is no dielectric plane at the equator of a magnet.

(Ref. Encyc. Britannica) Dielectric https://www.britannica.com/science/insulator Insulating material or a very poor conductor of electric current. When dielectrics are placed in an electric field, practically no current flows in them because, unlike metals, they have no loosely bound, or free, electrons that may drift through the material.

Electricity will flow through a magnet. So there is no insulating layer.

(3) There aren't two tori coming together at the midline of a magnet. That would make the midline into an area as strong as the poles. A compass needle would point to the midline. If you started dropping iron powder at the midline, it would start forming a magnet chain line there, which would branch out and around to each pole. Watch the videos. They clearly show only one torus.

The clarity of a child.

 

Ignore the quick cut scenes, they are promos for his other videos.

 

 

(4) What about the ferrofluid lines?

That's beautiful, but misplaced trust. Look at how ferrocells are constructed. A string of spaced LEDs is placed along the sides of the cell. You are not seeing magnetic lines. You are seeing the light bent by the peculiar consistency of the colloidal particles in the liquid with surfactant. Look at the video by Ferrocell USA himself. He suggests it's caused by the Lorentz force acting on surface plasmons of the nanoparticles.

 

When you read Wheeler's eBook, do you say "oh, I see that", or do you get a frustating confusion because you can't figure out what he's saying? There are mental illnesses that cause bizarre, extreme delusions.

 

Chris posted this 21 hours ago

Hey Bob,

I like that you have come forward with a difference of opinion but done it with evidence.

Everybody is welcome to their own opinion and this opinion should never be shot down. I encourage individual thinking.

Although I have my own opinion that differs from yours, I like to see others at the same time, it broadens my horizons.

The Inverse Square Law and its evident effects solve the Long Solenoid Problem, the fact that we can see that Magnetic Field Lines are not on enclosure on themselves as all textbooks would have every student believe.speaks volumes to me.

   Chris

 

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mrblobby posted this 19 hours ago

Hi Idea1man, I'm not going to get into the cult of personality thing about Ken or anyone else, and as Chris has mentioned above I too have a differing opinion, and again like Chris I respect everyone's ideas and thoughts on the matter, There are 3 sides to every coin.
My Personal opinion is that there is ONLY what is referred to as the 'bloch wall', and all that we perceive to be magnetism springs from that point.

Idea1man posted this 14 hours ago

Chris and mrblobby   ...  Thank you for being polite.

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Vince posted this 11 hours ago

With regard to the video above "Two magnets and a steel ball" the field lines have me intrigued.  They look like they might be refracted via the glass. or whatever the window is made of.  I have seen radio waves refracted by, wait for it, a magnifying glass before.  That astonished me.

Does anyone know if it is refraction?

 

Vince posted this 11 hours ago

I don't know about that Aetherholic.  You may well be correct, but I think it might be that a flame is plasma.  And if that is true, it would be affected by a magnetic field.  I could be wrong, but these guys think it is too Ask a Mathemetician.

Vince posted this 11 hours ago

Not noted by Wheeler, the direction of the spinning disk, and the pole of the magnet, determine whether the spinning is reinforced or opposed

Yes, that is true Bob.  However there is another part to this story that I've rarely if ever seen mentioned.

If the field and rotation are such that there are excess free electrons toward the outer rim the field will, on the outer part of the disk, be inline with the causative magnetic field.  However, if there are excess electrons at the rim, there is also a depletion toward the center of the disk.  The angular speed on the outer rim is much greater than the speed of the depleted area, so the electrons field predominates.  If it is the other way around, so that the rim is depleted, the same applies for the excess electrons toward the center.  They are not travelling so quickly and therefore the depletion area predominates.  The fact that there are actually two fields appearing in the disk simultaneously is apparently ignored.

And thank you for pointing out that my post was/is only correct half the time Bob.

Actually, that is a little self flattering.  It is equally true that my post was/is incorrect half the time.

Idea1man posted this 5 hours ago

==And thank you for pointing out that my post was/is only correct half the time Bob.==

Vince   ...   I wasn't trying to correct you. Actually, I guessed that, after your explanation. I never thought of the idea of charge separation when the disk is not connected to brushes. And I've never read that from any source. An experiment is needed to see the results. I've posted a video on my Tesla Unipolar topic, that shows an upward levitation when the spinning gyroscope is a magnet over a large copper disk. Amazingly, the upward force is stronger at a certain higher elevation.

Also, your noticing, that the rim speed is higher than the inner speed, is another very rare insight.

Idea1man posted this 4 hours ago

I'm going to make an apology of sorts, not a retraction. I had no way of knowing who may be believing Mr. Wheeler. Evidently he is the source for a number of members here. I did not mean to criticize anyone here. I also was very enamored with Wheeler when I first saw his eBook.

Another note on Bloch and Neel Walls, they do not move when other magnets are attached. They are a fixed area within the metal.

Vince posted this 4 hours ago

Please Bob, I take no offence whatsoever.  I overlooked that and for the benefit of all, correction is a very good thing indeed.  There will never be a day where I don't overlook something, or make mistakes.

When I say thank you, I mean exactly that.

Vince posted this 4 hours ago

If there is a voltage at the outer part of the rim and a corresponding opposite voltage toward the center there must be charge separation.  As much as voltage is not actually a measurement of charge, it is certainly equivalent in all circumstances I can think of.  That is worthy of debate I believe.  However I stand by that position for want of one if such a debate were to be engaged in.  I would actually like to read others opinion on this as I know there are many clever people here who might like to have a say in this that we could all profit from, so to speak.

When I say charge, I mean charge that is measurable above or below neutral.  If there is zero impedance (resistance) in a circuit, there is no voltage, and therefore no charge is evident either.  There may well be charge carriers in motion throughout a circuit that has zero impedance but this is not measurable by normal means.  Once impedance is introduced into a circuit charge piles up in from of, or are depleted downstream of that impedance and are then evident and measurable.

In the case of the spinning disk, the outer edge of the rim, and the center, are virtually infinite resistances, if you disregard any ionic leakage for the sake of argument.  However, I should mention that they can be discerned by the presence of a magnetic field.

If I am wrong I will learn something on correction.  If not, nothing is lost.

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