Coil Geometry

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Chris posted this 31 December 2021

My Friends,

It is easy to take what is obvious to one, for granted, and not realise others may not see this for various different reasons, for this, I apologise!

Coil Geometry is an Important aspect, one which must be taken into account for many reasons! I will try to cover this in more detail in this thread! To fully appreciate the scope of this thread, one must take all aspects into account! Lets start with some fundamentals!

First, I want to point out, most of this has been covered in pretty good detail in my Videos and in various Threads on this Forum.

NOTE: I tried to point this out in the Thread: Delta B in Partnered Output Coils

 

Voltage V

Pointed out in other Threads, Voltage V is "Generated", predicted by Faradays Law. There are two variations of Faradays Law, each covering two different methods of "Generation" of Voltage V:

  • E.M.F = -N dΦb / dt
  • E.M.F = Bvl

 

Electromotive Force, E.M.F is measured in Units of Volts, and is the Total Unit Charge Difference between Two Terminals, one considered Positive and one considered Negative. Electrons e- have a Negative Charge, and a Electron Hole, or Ion e+ not to be confused with the Proton p+, is considered a Positive Charge. As far as Science currently understands, each can "Move" relative to its position in three dimensional Space, relative to the Neiboring Quanta.

The Negative Sign - is Lenz's Law addition to Faradays Law, giving the Sine = 180 to the E.M.F. This is a Newtonian Action and Reaction Pair: For every Action there is an Equal and Opposite Reaction!

Number of Turns N is the Turns Multiplier for the Voltage Measured, or the E.M.F. If one Turn had a Difference in Potential of One Volt, then Ten Turns would have a total Difference of Ten Volts.

Change in Magnetic Field dΦb is also a Differential! This is actually quite easy, we must calculate a BMin and a BMax and take the Difference between the two! A Measured Magnetic Field B Minimum might 10 Gauss, and the Magnetic Field B Maximum might be 110 Gauss, so the Difference is: BMax - BMin = 100 Gauss. This means, = 100 Gauss.

Change in Time dt, is also a Differential, a change in time, if we were 10 seconds into a Test Run on the DUT, and we wanted to start a Measurement of the Magnetic Field B within this Duration, or Time Frame, and we stop at 12 Seconds, then, dt is tMax - tMin = 12 Seconds - 10 Seconds = 2 Seconds.

The Velocity v of the Magnetic Field B is the Speed of which the Magnetic Field B is "Moving".

The Length l, of the Conductor that the Magnetic Field B moves across, not to be confused with Coil Length l also, is a different Variable, that the Magnetic Fiend B with Velocity v, or cuts the Conductor Length l

The Magnetic Field B is a unit of Magnetic Field Density, how much Magnetic Field B can fit into the Cross Sectional Area or CSA.

 

Coil Cross Sectional Area CSA

Cross Sectional Area, CSA or sometimes just A, is a Windowed Variable. It is the Area of a Circle: A = πr2, or Area of a Rectangle, or a Square: Length l x Width w = A, that the Magnetic Flux B can Change inside. This is a really important Aspect and Floyd Sweet referred to this as Aspect Ratio, giving the Cross Sectional Area an:

  • Aspect Ratio
  • Time Delay

 

Where each quantity plays a role in the Signal, or the Magnetic Field B's Rate of Change.

Area can only hold a specific Quantity of Magnetic Field B, and the bigger the Cross Sectional Area CSA, the more Magnetic Field B can be accommodated! Floyd Sweet gave us this Gem:

Now let us consider the losses. Copper or Cu I2R losses remain but may be minimized by using wire of larger than usual cross-sectional area.

 

Doing some Mathematical Experiments, it is easy to see why this becomes an important statement:

Exp 01:

 

Exp 02:

 

By doubling our Area, we have reduced our Turns from 100 to 25, 1/4 the Turns N, and got the same Output Voltage V, and not shown, our reduction in Turns, gives us a much lower Impedance in the Coil!

 

Coil Length l

Coil Length l, is another very important Variable! Again the Mathematical Experiment is required, and already shown previously, how such a simple change can make such a big difference to the over all Outcome!

 

Exp 01:

 

Exp 02:

 

By making a single change, to ONLY the Coil Length l, we have: 25132.7412287 / 2513.27412287 = 10 times more Magnetic Field B, for no extra Current I or Turns N! Our Magnetic Field is Stronger for No Cost, only a Geometry Change!

All we have done is make our Coils Shorter in Coil Length l by a Factor of 10. From 0.1 to 0.01 Meters, or 1Cm.

 

Coil Turns N

Coil Turns N gives us many over all Variables, Voltage V, Resistance R, due to Wire Length l and Wire Gauge AWG, Ohms per meter, and other issues like fitting Turns N on specific Spool Size and so on.

The ideal, but not always practical rule should be, minimal Turns N of Maximum Wire Gauge AWG on the shortest possible Spool Length, giving a Short Coil Length l.

So a Large Cross Sectional Area CSA with a Short Coil Length l, and Large Wire Gauge AWG, will give best results for the Output!

 

NOTE: Wire Gauge AWG is the Opposite of the Gauge Size, 12 Gauge is a thick Wire, 2.052mm, 20 Gauge is 0.8128mm,the Goal should be Thicker than normal Wire, meaning a Lower AWG! The Thicker the Gauge, the Lower the DC Resistance, thus the Goal, reducing the DC Resistance.

 

In the Electrical Generator, we see this situation all the time:

 

 

A Smart approach to an other wise simple problem, is the only way forward!

My Friends, Magnetic Field BMax is a very important aspect to think about in Faradays Law Equation: E.M.F = -N dΦb / dt, we can see the Larger BMax the more Voltage V "Generated"! Remember I have said, "get your Magnetic Fields Up" this is why.

Partnered Output Coils "Generate" Voltage V and Pump Current I to give: Power P = Voltage V x Current I Cos( Theta θ ) and thus Energy in Joules J is: Joules J = Power P x Time t.

Electrodynamics is entirely Void of Asymmetry, this is why Science is Incomplete!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

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cd_sharp posted this 31 December 2021

Hey, buddy

Excellent info! I'd like to clear something for myself. In this screen

Resistance is actually the entire impedance of the coil (resistance + reactance at the input Frequency), the thing you are talking about above. Is it correct?

Stay strong!

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Stephen Mark)

Chris posted this 31 December 2021

Hey CD,

Yes, Impedance Z is the total AC and DC Resistances, and we know AC Resistance is made up of Reactance's XL and XC, both Inductive L and Capacitive C.

At Resonance, there is No AC Resistance, and thus the Impedance Z is just the DC Resistance. This means the Impedance Z = DC Resistance R when the System is in Resonance! We have covered this Here and in other places.

When the Inductive Reactance XL = the Capacitive Reactance XC we have Resonance:

 

So it is still a good idea, to make the DC Resistance R as low as possible, this makes an obvious Improvement seen in the Ohms Law Equation: Current I = Voltage V / Resistance R.

Again, I want to point out, all information in this Thread has been covered many times, all I have done is put it in the one thread as I see so many having trouble with this Subject. For this, I am sorry, I thought most of this was obvious.

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Chris posted this 26 February 2022

My Friends,

Partnered Output Coils are key to Energy "Generation"! The Geometry of Partnered Output Coils is key to how much Energy Density is avaliable to the Above Unity Machine!

Here is a Definition of Energy Density:

Energy density is the amount of energy that can be stored in a given system, substance, or region of space. Energy density can be measured in energy per volume or per mass. The higher the energy density of a system or material, the greater the amount of energy it has stored.

Ref: Energy Density

 

So, any Logical Mind must ask the question: In what way does an Electrical Generator Store Energy, it does not Right, it Generates Electrical Energy, so we must look at this definition from another point of view, one of "Generation" and not of "Storage".

This method of thinking is antiquated and Inconplete, Science still tells you that Shaft Torque is the Source of Electrical Energy Output in the "Generator"! Totally Incorrect and incomplete to the Theory! Shaft Torque is a Side Effect of the Sepperation of Charge and Acceleration of this same Charge, and not the Cause! It is very easy to prove this every day of the week!

Already covered in many places on this Forum, Electrical Energy is Kinetic, meaning a Volume of Charge must be Accelerated, having Velocity, called Current, meaning:

  1. energy which a body possesses by virtue of being in motion. "energy above that needed to ionize the molecule is carried away as kinetic energy of the electron ejected"

 

So, again, Elementary Charge, in Motion, Charge in Motion, and to bring about Motion, one must Accenerate the Charge, and the only thing that can do this, is Magnetic Fields: Inertia of Elementary Charge!

Partnered Output Coils can Accelerate existing Charge, from the Copper Atoms, each containing 29 Electrons, and Magnetic Fields make them move!

A greater, broarder Understanding is required! Not ever allowing imposed limits by entities unknown, and thus must be untrusted!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Chris posted this 09 August 2022

My Friends,

I have given the number of: 2 cm as a guide above. This Number gives us a very specific result Mathematically!

How can we apply this Number to a Machine? I am going to show you a collection I have gained:

 

After disassembly, you can collect the I Laminations:

 

Now we have some Laminated Silicon Steel I Laminations, that if need be, we can cut to size.

Why have I decided to focus on 2 cm?

What is M.M.F and how does it work?

What is CSA?

Do you Remember:

 

I have given you all this as the answer to "Humanity's Energy Crisis" with a full explanation as to how they work! There is NO Energy Crisis, its all here!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Alex ⋐˙⋮⋮˙⊃ posted this 04 April 2024

Hey Chris,

almost there with my async charge pump... need to finish the POC and the Primary. Mosfet is set, need to start low input 4VDC, in the meantime I would like to ask you 2 things. After watching the entire Walter Rosenthal episode, specifically on what he said regarding the VTA, remember when Floyd played with increasing and decreasing the load while speaking on the phone with T. Bearden... he and his neighbors heard a tremendous roar, omniprezent sound. If we believe in the Ether, then could it be that the roar was caused by local Ether resonance?

Second question: do you or the guys see a resemblance between the VTA and JNL's 2SGen experiment?

?si=X_hRuJ0MqucNR-dV

 

Again, sorry if this was already discussed or if I'm rumbling nonsense, feel free to remove my post, no worries whatsoever .

Thanks again for building this community!

Alex

Chris posted this 04 April 2024

Hi Alex,

Please remember, I have used the quote: "Little steps for little feet - Sir Richard Feynman", in other words, one small experiment can lead to bigger experiments, this is how we progress. What I am trying to point out, is we should not expect too much from the first experiment, other than learning a lot of new un-told stuff, which will point you in the right direction.

Take your time, that's how we learn best, everything takes time, not that we have much time left now, we are very fast running out of time, but that just means we have to work harder to reach the goal!

Understanding the Generation of a Voltage is critical, we see it every day in so may areas, science even has a term: "Parasitic Inductance" which simply means any changing magnetic Field in Time, "Generates" a Voltage.   

The very very Dumb so called researchers out there cant wrap their heads around this fact! That's why they have never succeeded! Too Damn Dumb!

People in general are waking up, people can see the truth, and they can see the scum bags holding them back! Its very observable, very obvious who is not helping the community today!!! Dumb Dumb People!

Anyway, you're on the right track, you're doin g the research, and you clearly are thinking along the right path!

Keep it up!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Gucio posted this 08 June 2024

If I interpreted your message correctly, shorter coils with more layers would be more suitable than longer coils with fewer layers. Correct me if I am wrong.

Grzegorz

Chris posted this 09 June 2024

Hi Gucio,

Re your question:

If I interpreted your message correctly, shorter coils with more layers would be more suitable than longer coils with fewer layers. Correct me if I am wrong.

 

Yes, the physical Length of the coil is a geometrical constant that is directly proportional to the Magnetic Field Density.

As I have shown in the experiments:

Coil Length l

Coil Length l, is another very important Variable! Again the Mathematical Experiment is required, and already shown previously, how such a simple change can make such a big difference to the over all Outcome!

 

Exp 01:

 

Exp 02:

 

By making a single change, to ONLY the Coil Length l, we have: 25132.7412287 / 2513.27412287 = 10 times more Magnetic Field B, for no extra Current I or Turns N! Our Magnetic Field is Stronger for No Cost, only a Geometry Change!

All we have done is make our Coils Shorter in Coil Length l by a Factor of 10. From 0.1 to 0.01 Meters, or 1Cm.

 

For no extra cost on the Input, we have a gain in Magnetic Field and the Change of the Magnetic Field:  ΔΦ, ( Delta Phi ), which directly relates to Faradays Law: 

E.M.F = -N ΔΦ / Δt

 

Remember, a Voltage is measured in Units of Volts, and the Change in the Magnetic Field:  ΔΦ, ( Delta Phi ), is a key aspect in the Equation! The Change in Time:  Δt, ( Delta time ), and Turns N, are key variables as is Lenz's Law, the Negative Sign ( - ), which means we have the Negative of the Source, Opposite, at one part of the Cycle, Bucking!

NOTE: A Voltage is "Generated", via Charge Separation, and a Current is Pumped! Current I, is not defined in Faradays Law, it can be calculated via Ohms Law: I = V / R, but no where in Science, is the Invocation of an Electrical Current defined Mathematically, the Volume of a Current is: One Ampere = 6.241509 x 1018 Electrons past point P1 in one second.

Charge is Freed from the Copper Atom and it is Accelerated down the Insulated Copper Wire via Magnetomotive Force, it is Pumped by Opposing Magnetic Fields! The closed analogy to this force is Ampere's Force Law, but it still does not define how an Electrical Current is bought into being!

How an Electrical Current is bought into being, the Invocation of an Electrical Current remains Undefined by Science today, except for my work!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Gucio posted this 09 June 2024

Thank you for the science lesson. It's a pleasure to learn from the best. I wish you health.

Grzegorz

thaelin posted this 09 June 2024

How would one figure out the magnetic pull force in pounds of 1 Tesla?  All the conversions go all over the place but no direct for this. 

thay

Chris posted this 09 June 2024

How would one figure out the magnetic pull force in pounds of 1 Tesla?  All the conversions go all over the place but no direct for this. 

thay

 

Hello Thay,

Interesting question! It is quite easy, because of the standardization of the SI Units.

One Tesla is equal to One Newton per Ampere Meter.

 

Now the question arises, what is One Newton per Ampere Meter?

Lets try an analogy between the force exerted by a magnetic field and the concept of attraction: The principle that if a One Tesla Coil, were placed near a One Meter long conductor carrying a current of one ampere, it would produce a force equivalent to one Newton's attraction. In other words, illustrating how the magnetic field generated by the One Tesla Coil exerts a force on the conductor that is analogous to the gravitational attraction between two objects with mass, measured in Newtons.

 

Of course, Newtons Law: F = ma

 

This thread does attempt to show this in the equations.

Best Wishes,

   Chris

anarsu posted this 23 July 2024

Hello,

I hope this is the right thread for this question:

Is it okay to place the bobbins adjacent to each other, instead of on top of each other?

Like this:

 

Gucio posted this 24 July 2024

As for coils L2 and L3, yes. Coil L1 should be on the same spool as L2 in the same direction. L3 is in the opposite direction.
I'm currently waiting for the amorphous core. I will also keep you updated on my activities.

Regards

Grzegorz

Grzegorz

Luminerix posted this 30 July 2024

Hello Good Morning -

 

I would like to post an introduction from me here and give a huge Thank You for the work you have been doing Chris!

This takes a lot all things considered, very much appreciated!

I would like to ask a basic question about coil configuration - hope it fits into the 'geometry' category:

I am a bit confused about the coil config in video seven, which seems pretty straightforward, except I can't see how L2 and L3 are electrically  connected at their terminals like in the gold/ green coils schematic and like in the preceding 'coil experiment' videos.

The schematic also shows two distinct circuits for L2 and L3.

Also in one of the basic component photos (the red wires) displays the terminals as being fused. 

Am I correct to assume that the terminal connection L2/L3 is not a crucial feature for 'partnering' coils?

 

ok I just had my morning coffee and spent the last several days going over OU material (mostly videos) and due to being totally amped up by this I am in serious danger of going into full rambling mode, so I'll shunt that for now, but I am really eager to enter the conversation!!!

Also, I should find my way around the forum a bit better I guess.. I have been active in the crypto field for ten years now, so I know that proper communication formats are important

Cheers

Lumi

 

Chris posted this 30 July 2024

Hey Lumi,

In a conventional Transformer, there is an Action Reaction pair, a Symmetry. Action is the Primary, Secondary the Reaction, and it is left at that.

In POC We use an Action, Reaction and Counter-Reaction Triplet, this brings an Asymmetrical component to the Conventional Transformer that has not been accepted by conventional Science. So all we are doing is introducing Asymmetry to what has always been a Symmetrical Field.

Action is the primary, Reaction is POCOne and the Counter-Reaction is POCTwo and POCOne and POCTwo must oppose each other as was shown in the video and Schematic I gave.

From my thread and also partly in the video:

My Input is like so:

 

 

The Circuit in the Video:

 

Which is this:

 

 

 

POCOne and POCTwo act as an Electromagnetic Charge Pump but you must first Generate the Voltage using Faradays Law and the Magnetic Fields of each Coil.

Its a very very simple process but many cant understand such simplicity or they are paid not to understand it at least. Some people are just stubbornly Dumb!

What I have given freely, has the potential to change the world forever, but the decades of training people that everything is a hoax, has rendered the obvious, as a hoax, when the truth is, we have many independent replications showing this working, proving this technology far from being a hoax!

I am sure you will find this very easy with your background!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Luminerix posted this 31 July 2024

Yes I think I have all needed components to get started.

I quickly realized that using a normal signal generator of course is completely insufficient to drive any loads - no surprise there.

So options are several, like using an audio amp, which I will start with because I have a toy solder kit for that here, or put together a three bipolar transistor amp.

I also ordered an OPA541 based amp on amazon. The legendary H-bridge is the other option (Master Ivo has a beefy build) and I think the rig used in the hyiq videos uses a regular DC power supply with an H-bridge MOSFET to chop the output.

I have a hunch that is too complex for me for starters, so I'll go with an audio amp and an OPA541 decvice.

Tom Montalk in his wonderful 'scalar physics' intro mentions the effect that when magnetic fields oppose and cancel, they do not really disappear, but a non-curl grad component appears- it is my understanding that this then can be collected with the asymmetry.

Bearden also talks about a scalar-like component that appears when magnetic fields numerically cancel out.

 

 

Chris posted this 31 July 2024

Hey Lumi,

Cant wait to see your progress...

Best Wishes,

   Chris

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