Captainloz's Asymmetrical Re-gauging Experiment

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Captainloz posted this 23 August 2020

Hi Guys,

Sorry I haven't been contributing lately. I think this video is insightful. I'm pretty happy with the way things are progressing. I took Chris's advise and went back to what I was having success with. That was good advise!

I still want to try setting up the L1 coil in series resonance.  Remember series resonance is supposed to give better voltage and parallel resonance gives better current out.  I also need to work on impedance matching.  I love the analogy of impedance matching to a torc converter. I still don't fully understand how to do this yet but that's what I'm currently studying. 



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Chris posted this 23 August 2020

Hey Loz,

My Friend, awesome work! I am very proud to see your great success! Very nice to see! Thank You for Sharing!

All here learning, please take special note of CaptainLoz's experiment, this is very well done, very professional!

We, our Team, the support we each give each other, it is first class! We are all so lucky to have such a great bunch of people around us! You all are awesome!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friend,



P.S: I have moved this important experiment out from: Nonlinear resonance to this new thread.

Jagau posted this 23 August 2020


I join Chris to congratulate you LOZ, very nice demonstration.

A lot of material to study this is great.

I took the time to study it, I just got back from a great fishing weekend.

I think we have a very good team here, Chris you can be proud too.


Captainloz posted this 24 August 2020

Thanks Guys!

To be very honest I wouldn't be this far without  This forum is the best!  And I really appreciate being a part of it!



cd_sharp posted this 24 August 2020

Hey, Loz, fantastic work! Thanks for sharing!

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Chris posted this 24 August 2020

My Friends,

I did not have a lot of time this morning and since then, have reviewed CaptainLoz's full video. Awesome Work Loz!

Loz has nailed Partnered Output Coils! He should be very proud! A huge achievement! Well Done CaptainLoz!

Disconnecting L3's Diode and seeing the Lights go almost completely out, is 100%  how this should work! A tell tail guide that the Two Output Coils are Interacting how they should.

Loz full Credit My Friend, Well done, you should be so very proud of your achievement!

If you feel, at sometime, you could drop the thread down to Tier I, for all public? Only when you are ready though!

I would like to ask all members, please support Loz's Work, Please replicate and share your results on your own dedicated thread.

Please beware, this is going to move very fast all of a sudden, soon many people will require help. I ask all members, please help others as we have here on this forum. This is the only thing I ask of you. All of Humanity needs to have this technology available to them, its super important!

If I may add, Input Circuitry like YoElMiCrO has shared with us, at the resonant Frequency, may be useful also:


Of course, L x C = T in Seconds and aiming for a pulse like this:


Congratulations Loz! 

My Friends, you all are awesome and I have huge respect for you all!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friends,


Atti posted this 24 August 2020



If there is an intention to share more, then some explanation for physical implementation would also be needed. So the winding directions which is marked in the picture. But if you want.


cd_sharp posted this 24 August 2020

Hey, Loz

I promise I'll try to replicate ASAP. One question:

You actually used this:

You divided by 44.4, not by 444. I don't understand why, can you please give a hint what was you inspiration?

Again, excellent work!

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Chris posted this 24 August 2020

My Friends,



Loz has done an awesome job!

Remember, each Coil is an Antenna! No loop backs are needed, as Each Individual Coil, L2 and L3 oppose each other and this opposition makes for the so called Non-Inductive Component we often see in the Kapanadze Devices. The Turns Clock Wise and Counter Clock Wise are best thought of as separate Coils, this is L2 and L3 individually.

The method CaptainLoz uses has a better Coupling Coefficient and the Output will be greater as a result.


My Friends, Simplicity, keep it simple and don't let your mind over complicate this!


There is no Magic, no mystery, its just a few Antenna's, wound in a Helix, with a lot of EM Radiation at the 1/4 Wavelength! Electromagnetic Resonance.

I want to thank Loz for sharing his work, a massive success! Some are not ready to share their work, with similar successes, some have self running machines. So this is a big step forward and many here now have a new bench mark to follow.

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friends,



P.S: Your Video is being posted over at by member Color. I have dropped this thread down to Tier I from Tier II as its not something we can work on in private now.

Yes the skeptics are already out, we need to try to ignore them. You all are safe here! I will Ban them if they come!

Captainloz posted this 25 August 2020

Hey CD,

I use the wavelength frequency of 37.241 Mhz / 444 = 383.76 Khz (harmonic). I just picked the frequency based off of what capacitors I had on hand.  I think we just need to make sure whatever frequency we choose is a harmonice of the wavelength, of the length of the coils. 




Captainloz posted this 25 August 2020

Hey Chris,

It's fine for it to be on Tier1. I thought I had this video on a private link.  It's all good, let's get it out there! 



Captainloz posted this 25 August 2020

Hi Atti,

I started winding the coils from each end using the right hand grip rule, (current pointing into the middle).  When you get to the middle just fold the wire over and come back on itself 7 turns, then fold the wire again and wind back to the start.  So it's just 2 layers.

The torid OD is 62mm, ID is 35mm, 11mm thick.  I got these about 10 years ago and I can't find the record of the type of ferrite. I'm pretty sure I got them off Ebay.

Yellow wire is 14 AWG (L2 & L3)

Red wire is 2.5mm (L1)

General purpose diode's 6A05 - 1212

2 x 14V bulbs

1 x 12 V 7.5 wLED bulb

2 x WIMA 2kV, 2nF caps 



Chris posted this 25 August 2020

Hey Loz


Hi PM,

I'm reading the input power right from the Rigol power supply.  Why is that not an accurate way to determine the watts being consumed by the input?  That's why I purchased this power supply I was sick of figuring out my input watts.  The output is being read by the scope.  One probe is across a 0.1 ohm resistor set to 1x and 10x on the scope. Ohms Law measurement of: 1 x 0.1 x 10 = 1 Ohm. Meaning if you have 1 Volt measured across the 0.1 Ohm resistor it is 1 Amp, because 1 x 1 = 1.  The voltage is being read across the load.  If you watch the video to the end you see me put the scope on Averaging sample rate.  It still shows I'm getting more out than in.  If I'm not taking the readings correctly please advise.


Don't let them get at you!

I have a Rigol DP832 Precision Power Supply, same as yours. I have calibrated my scope and you know what, after my Scope Calibration, I found my DP832 to be spot on!

Don't forget, we get Rigol Certification with our Power Supply's! This is to say that Rigol knows a fair bit more than some person yelling Measurement Error from the Roof Tops!

Greater than 10 Watts on the Input, that is not Measurement Error! If we were debating 0.25 watts, then that would be a different story!

Please ignore them, they have sour grapes! They actually don't know as much as they allow others to believe, if you want an example, read through the link that was posted.

I fully support you mate! I know whats possible with these machines! They don't!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friend,


cd_sharp posted this 25 August 2020

Hey, Loz

You've got it, man. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. You have the device in front of you. They've got what? Bad intentions.

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Jagau posted this 25 August 2020

Hey loz

Thank you for sharing your research on the site.

As you can see, it is only here on this site that things really happen with real experiences. Contrary to the other sites which do not have anything to put under their teeth it must not be easy for them to see that here we succeed, the problem over there, there is that there is a lot of blah blah blah and not enough real experiences .

Keep it up Loz is how we develop with real things to be verified. Don't let yourself be influenced by those who can do nothing but criticize those who succeed.

As Chris has already said, we are very advanced here.

I see that you noticed a very important little detail that I also noted in my research, the change in load impedence brings a change to the source it's real Loz

 I'm still studying your video, very interesting and a lot of material, thank you


Captainloz posted this 25 August 2020

Hi Guys,

Thanks for the support!  Obviously this is just the start, there is still so much more to do to get this transformer to self run.

I'm finding a high percentage of the power is being consumed in the diodes. I also tried a bridge rectifier for the output and that uses too much power. 

As nice as it is to see the measurements on the scope. It's still a long way off being a self runner.  Also, I'm still open to the possibility that I'm making a measuring error (although I don't think so).  I've asked a physicist professor friend of mine to take a look. We have discussed this before and he didn't take me seriously, but now I have something to show I'm hopping he takes a serious look.  We need this to become mainstream!  We need to show Lenz's law can be broken with Asymmetry.  I think this experiment clearly shows that.




Atti posted this 25 August 2020

Hey Loz!

The winding process is extremely important. We can see from the various works.
I don’t want to mention anyone in particular, as everyone’s work is important and instructive. So thanks to all the active creative people!
Measurement is important but not essential. It is important because it confirms the right path.
Such results lead to the path to a stand-alone machine.
Don't worry about who says what. Do it as you see fit.
In my opinion, everyone can learn from what is presented here if they are serious about building a machine.
I’m still studying the video and posts.


Chris posted this 25 August 2020

Hi Guys,

Thanks for the support!  Obviously this is just the start, there is still so much more to do to get this transformer to self run.

I'm finding a high percentage of the power is being consumed in the diodes. I also tried a bridge rectifier for the output and that uses too much power. 

As nice as it is to see the measurements on the scope. It's still a long way off being a self runner.  Also, I'm still open to the possibility that I'm making a measuring error (although I don't think so).  I've asked a physicist professor friend of mine to take a look. We have discussed this before and he didn't take me seriously, but now I have something to show I'm hopping he takes a serious look.  We need this to become mainstream!  We need to show Lenz's law can be broken with Asymmetry.  I think this experiment clearly shows that.




Hey Loz,

There is always room for improvements! So yes, I agree!

There is always the possibility of measurement error, we all make mistakes. However, you have done nothing wrong from what I can see! I have checked your measurements and see nothing wrong! Everything is good! I cant tell if probe settings are 1x or 10x, but I saw you checked and double checked!

What is obvious when there is no other explanation, leaves only the obvious left, you are measuring excess Energy in your Machine! You have everything right! There is no Error!


It is really important that we are not so fast to pass this by!

We must trust ourselves, trust our abilities and have faith in what is possible! Let NO ONE Dismiss your work, but at the same time be open minded. As you are already!

Don't let any one tell you that you have it wrong, because, if you have it right and you dismiss it, you have wasted your years in research for nothing!

Stay Strong and stay focused My Friends!

Loz has Partnered Output Coils exactly Right, This is how they work, as Kapanadze shows, Don Smith shows and many more before us! Please everyone, get on board with this, please support Loz's Work! Please I ask you all to pass this on to those in front of us, new comers. Soon they will come in hordes!

NOTE: What we are sharing is much simpler than many of those before us! Because of Diakoptics! Some researchers in the field have been doing this for 20, 30, 40 or more years, so a bad case of Sour Grapes is going to be common! We must ignore these people that have nothing after so long in the field! They will try to destroy our achievements!

My post here, may be of help to some.

If we do not do this now, this could be Humanity's last chance!

I am so proud of you all! My Friends, You are the strength the world needs!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friends,


YoElMiCrO posted this 26 August 2020

Hi all.


I have seen your video quickly, if you are interested in another opinion
I will calculate the output power applied to the bulbs,
as the waveform is complex, time must be integrated
about voltage and current, then we take the average and from there
we extract the active power applied to the load.
Regarding the power that your power source reflects,
there is no doubt about it.
Thanks for sharing your experiments, this is the forum to do it.
It's just another opinion, because the more we are, the better.

Thanks in advance.


Chris posted this 26 August 2020

Hey Guys,

Just a reminder, Loz gave us measurements on L2 and not from L3. L3 must also have the same Power in this Coil, because of Lenz's Law, This Coil, L3, is the Yang in the YinYang Relationship ( L2 and L3 ).


The YinYang is important to think about here, Symmetry between L2 and L3 but Asymmetry back to L1.

Thank You to all, for Supporting Loz! Thumbs Up and Favoriting this helps show your support!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friends,


Maxxon posted this 26 August 2020

Hey, Loz .

You can easily verify by connecting all your load lamps directly to your power source and compare the lamps current draw with same voltages you had on your device output.



thaelin posted this 26 August 2020

Hey Loz:

   Try ultra fast diodes and gang up say 4 of them to lower the voltage drop across them.  Like doing with two resistors, in parallel, they will be 1/2 the value.



Captainloz posted this 26 August 2020

Hi Guys,

I was playing around last night by upping the voltage to 65 volts and I've done some damage. I've blown out my mosfet(s) and it looks like diodes as well. 

Max, that's a great point I will do that. Although I don't think that will not show the power loss in the diodes.  They get very hot so are drawing a lot of power which is shown across the resister, if I connect the DC power supply directly to the load I won't see the power consumption of the diodes, which is real power being generated by the coils but not being consumed in the load. That's why I think I'll need to get the output up to over 3 x before it will self run.

Thay, good point! That's may help with what I just said above to Max. Thanks!

YoElMiCrO, I'm not sure I understand but I'm planning on using the Math function on the scope. Itsu sent me this video link 

which I watched last night but still need to try.  As soon as I get the circuit back up and running I will try this.

I will say to everyone that in all the years I've been doing this, I have been measuring input and output basically the same way (maybe incorrectly) and this is the first time I've been able to measure over 20 watts extra out. So even if I'm making a measuring error it's still the best experiment I've ever done.  Obviously I'd like to see a lot more power out, but this is where I'm at. I encourage you to replicate this and see if you get the same results. 

I know I not the smartest guys on this forum so if I can do it you can do it.  As Chris says "keep it simple"!

I need to keep it simple because I'm just not smart enough to make it complicated. Hahaha!

Lastly, I find it really hard to make time for this forum so if I go quiet for awhile it's just because of life responsibilities. But I'll do my best to keep contributing as much as possible.    

Cheers Boys!



Augenblick posted this 26 August 2020


Great current test:  bypass the circuit entirely for an A-B test.

A = load only.

B = circuit and load.


Series diodes increase the forward voltage drop, reduces current, and they share a slightly reduced thermal load.

Parallel diodes 'ideally' divide the current, share the thermal load, but the semiconductor threshold aspect of each remains. The forward voltage drop stays roughly the same no matter how many diodes are paralleled. That's ideally ...

Mismatched parallel diodes can cause problems, such as thermal runaway and avalanche.

Hope this helps.


Very encouraging results! Thank you!


... in the blink of an eye.

Chris posted this 26 August 2020

My Friends,

Again, Loz's Measurements are Ok! There is nothing wrong, its a very close approximation of whats going on.

Soon we will see people saying things like: "I have been doing this for years", "this is my idea", "I was first to do this", "your'e doing what I did 20 years ago" and so on...

We must be vigilant and diligent in how we progress! Let no one steer us! Stay on track! It wont hurt to hold a few things back, little secrets, let others progress, but make sure they are learning what they are doing, and not being told what to do!

Many other people do not like to give credit where Credit is due, so beware, others will try to steel your hard earned Spot Light!

We know, we are World Leaders in this technology!

So be proud! No one else in the Western World has been able to get this far!


We at are the leaders! No one else! We have pioneered and brought forth the Technology you are seeing right here!

  • It works! It is simple!
  • It is Cheap!
  • It only takes some understanding!


You will Note:

Ref: PM Criticism

Partzman points to Measurement Protocols I have bought forth as a reference! Measurement Protocols Here: Partnered Output Coils Measurement Protocols, See our Measurements Section for some further reading.

Please read the entire sections if you wish! You will note, there are a lot of people, experts in the field, still have no idea what so ever how to properly measure these machines! They still think RMS on the Input is OK To Use! They are so wrong! I will point out, some trained Metrologists make this mistake! We are farther beyond their Skill Set! So do not fear!

Loz questioned Partzman and got no answer:


Loz, your'e a humble and genuine bloke and should have had a response! No answer gives us an answer in its own right!

Our Measurement Protocols are some of the best in the world! Why? Because we have Training on how to properly measure these Machines under working conditions! No one else does!

If people do not pick this up and replicate, then this may be our very last chance! It all depends on you My Friends, and those that follow!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friends,


Captainloz posted this 26 August 2020

Hey Chris,

If people watch your videos its all in there.  My experiment is proof of that.  I was feeling very frustrated for a long time but then I stumbled on to your youtube channel and it inspired me to keep going.  I actually have your book from way back, I wish now just stayed with it but I went down the Ruslan and Akula rabbit holes for too long without understand Asymmetry and the re-gauging process.  Anyway mate I'm just trying to say you should be proud of yourself. You are doing a great thing here!



Chris posted this 26 August 2020

Hey Chris,

If people watch your videos its all in there.  My experiment is proof of that.  I was feeling very frustrated for a long time but then I stumbled on to your youtube channel and it inspired me to keep going.  I actually have your book from way back, I wish now just stayed with it but I went down the Ruslan and Akula rabbit holes for too long without understand Asymmetry and the re-gauging process.  Anyway mate I'm just trying to say you should be proud of yourself. You are doing a great thing here!





@Loz, Thank You My Friend! I appreciate your Post! I cant do it without all of you, you are the real Legends!

@All, I have drawn Loz's circuit from the video:


@Loz, if you can point out any mistakes, only when you get time, no stress right now. Just when you get time!

This is for others to follow, but remember, your Coils may require different capacitors, so please be aware of this when replicating. Base your replication from what Your Coils need to see! Many posts, and Loz's Video explains this!


The Bedini Crew, would be pretty sad after sticking with him for so long and having nothing at the end! We are completely independent, and we have succeeded well beyond their wildest expectations! With no BS, its all right in front of all readers! It is simple, no Magic, nothing special required, all that stuff is all BS!


All anyone needs is a few simple Coils and the right knowledge! Obtainable only here! Steven Mark told us this:

Very, very cheaply put together, there is no mass circuitry involved with any of this stuff, its just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other.


Loz, you should be super proud of your self old mate! wink

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friends,


Captainloz posted this 27 August 2020

Hey Chris,

Yes circuit looks good!  



Atti posted this 27 August 2020


 @All, I have drawn Loz's circuit from the video..........  Hey Chris, Yes circuit looks good!  

I may be in trouble. I ask a lot. But if I understand correctly this is not a simple L2 and L3 coil. For clarification:
If this is the case then the L2 and L3 coils (one by one) are arranged in the same way as Fighter’s work. And that's how it's all different.



Chris posted this 27 August 2020

Hey Atti,

Wind the Coils, measure the length, calculate as Loz has and then do the experiment.

Drawn out procrastination is only going to confuse you and everyone else, when there is no need!

Loz said: Keep it Simple!

I have said this also:


If you have been reading, and studding, then you will know only three Coils are needed:


There is no complication, don't make this complicated when there is no need for complication!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friend,


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YoElMiCrO posted this 27 August 2020

Hi all.


If you want try this.

In this way, do not open any type of doubts regarding
to the power at the load, since the capacitor will store
all the energies that circulate through your secondary.

I hope it helps.


raivope posted this 27 August 2020


Just a few hints for the circuit.

Primary coil has C1 for resonance. It will work, but discharging C2 into C1 directly thru the switch is sometimes costly when voltages are different (unless resonance). Trick is to have bifilar primary where you have LC on second primary without other connections. If you do not have h-bridge to drive the primary, you need to protect the single mosfet switch and this LC idea to tap the CEMF is good - having LC on bifilar will clip the non-wanted peaks of the same parallel coil. (but anyway - this primary thing is not a big problem)

Hint2: you are using second primary + diode + shunt for analysis, but in a future you should short this coil without any diode, because diode dissipates energy. Ideal is to have superconductor coil + ideal shorting - thus no dissipation. Trick is that you can have two low ohm (rds-on) opposing MOSFETs sourced together and switched both at the same time. You can keep the diode, but add the shorting-bridge in parallel to it.
Plz refer to my pdf in July 26th:
Page 15-16 (shorting-bridge).

Captainloz posted this 27 August 2020

Hi YoElMiCrO,

Thank you for the power measurement circuit.  I will give it a try. 

Hi Ralvope,  

Some great advise there, also thanks for the switching circuit pdf. I think I could get much better results with this experiment if I was using a full bridge, I'd like to set up the L1 coil in series resonance.  So many things to try with this set up!

And Guys,

Just a quick point on this set up.The 2nf C3 cap is not needed to see the affect, It only adds a little to the overall output.

And just to be clear with one of the notes on my note pad.  Where I have L1, L2, L3 written down.  I have (red) next to L3 that is just referring to red magic marker I marked on the L3 yellow wire.  



Chris posted this 27 August 2020

My Friends,

In the thread: The Input Coil, I posted about the Input Coils importance.

I don't want to be picky, Loz has done an awesome job, and most definitely don't want to confuse anyone, so some might be best to not read all this Post perhaps. I only aim to help!

The Input Coil has an optimum length and therefore operation frequency: One Quarter the Wavelength or close to the Partnered Output Coil Operating Frequency. The Input Coil is directly related to the Partnered Output Coils, frequency wise, thus length wise.

This means, the Input Coil's length is the same as one Partnered Output Coil / 4, approximately.

Loz already pointed this out in the video.

Optimising the Input Coil Length and operation will maximise the over all efficiency and make the Input go right down, even go Negative.

You all are awesome and you all should be so proud of yourselves! Humanity has never had an opportunity like this ever before!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friends,


Captainloz posted this 30 August 2020

Hi Itsu

Thanks for your video. Here is the reply-  

I still can't seem to find where the M (mean) data is displayed on my scope.  However as you can see if we take the average amperage reading my efficiency drops drastically, however I'm still showing a small gain.  Note; I do have my circuit set up a little differently than the last experiment, but it's basically the same.



Chris posted this 30 August 2020

Hey Loz,

Have confidence in measurements!

I have posted a Post to the Measurements Thread to help you out with taking measurements. The protocols are right so please be confident!

The video:


Please go and read the post, there is more there!

Keep Input and Output Measurements separate, state them as such: Input or Output Measurements.

Keep your Chin up My Friend, your'e doing fine! If you follow the protocols I have posted for you, you wont go wrong!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friend,


Captainloz posted this 30 August 2020

So sorry Guys!

Not above unity! Bad probe and measurements! It was not my intention to mislead anyone. Obviously I'm frustrated and a little embarrassed, however I'm glad you guys pushed me for the proper measurements because it's been a great lesson. Chris and Itsu thank you for helping me find the error. I've learnt a lot about my scope but more importantly to check your probes for accuracy.  

I've been using that same probe for ages so all my previous results have to be incorrect.  Chris so sorry for putting you and everyone through this.  I feel terrible about this but I've learnt my lesson. Can you please take my devices off the greater than COP1 list.



Chris posted this 31 August 2020

Hey Loz,

Mate I appreciate your Honesty! Honesty always trumps BS!

Many of us have seen the same effects you have shown, and many of us are doing great work! Some of us even having self running machines, where no measurement error can occur and these sorts of problems are irrelevant. 

I very much appreciate your Honesty and finding the problem is a great lesson for the basic Oscilloscope use, errors can easily be made! In the past, many times I have had readings I have had showing Above Unity Results, in the early days, Errors were found. Finding them is sometimes part of the journey!

As is not finding them!

The skeptics will be having a field day right now, but that's fine, being honest is more important! I value Honesty very highly!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friend,


Jagau posted this 31 August 2020

Hello Loz
I have a little trouble understanding your second measurement.
In the first, the probe is at X10 and the Ch4 is at 100A.
In your second measurement you leave ch4 at 1X and you lower the ch4 from 100A to 50A and 2A without doing an autoset?
If you did the math ( ch3 X ch4 ) were you correct in the first measure 

DoI misread what you are showing me?
help me understand


Augenblick posted this 31 August 2020


I'm sure all members back your experimenting here, gains and losses. These are very important steps in learning and progress. An occasional slap on our forehead works wonders. I've had an associate toast a $10,000 exotic/rare component, from a simple wire crossing. It set us back some weeks. We just slapped our heads and moved forward. The results were rewarding after all.

You're so close. Finish to win!



... in the blink of an eye.

Chris posted this 31 August 2020


The Guys are right, measurements in the last video are not as accurate as before. You need all waveform data in screen:


That's why you are not getting RMS Readings. I would really like to see a good Screenshot, one of input and One of Output, but I trust if you want to call measurement error, its ok! I understand why you would go down this path.

I have not seen a Scope Probe read: 7.57 A then drop to 579 mA, just by swapping the Scope Probe, that's a massive variance! Some very bad Scope Probe Damage there! 


Just so you know, there is a lot more than 579 mA in that Circuit! Powering those Globes:


579 mA does not fit right for me! Still, if your Scope Probe was that badly damaged, it is possible.


My Friend, I get it if you want all this to go away, if all the negative attention is getting to much, say the word. It is very easy for us to move this back to Tier II and hide it all from the Skeptics! Its not hard!

Jagau has good advice, resetting the Scope is best done to get the right probe Measurement.

You need to make all your Videos: UnListed if you want to!

Again, I value Honesty very highly!

I very much despise Mis-Truths and Non-Sense, the approach of the skeptics we see all the time!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friend,



Chris posted this 31 August 2020

Hey Loz,

Sometime back I posted a video of how to calibrate the Rigol Oscilloscope:

Before Scope Calibration:


After Scope Calibration:


Test and Check your probes with a DC Power Supply. Of course bad equipment needs to be found and resolved.

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friend,


Chris posted this 31 August 2020

My Friends,

First of all I want to thank Captainloz for his honesty and coming forward with a Bad Probe.

Second, I want to reiterate my above post, Please verify your Scope and Probes, verify by doing simple calibrations on a regular basis to check equipment. Normally you will be fine, everything will just work and it will be pretty accurate!

Third, I want to say, what Loz has shared here does work! Just because we have seen a Bad Probe, should not discourage us! Especially those learning, the up coming!


Because many of us have very advanced machines running, based on the exact same technology, some of us have Self Running Machines, here is our Public and Tier II list:


Personally I am a little cut, but I knew deep down, this was on the cards. We all make mistakes, it is inevitable, we are not perfect. We must remember, this is just a crack in the road and we must keep focused and solid in our path forward.

@Loz, My Friend, Please do not worry! This sort of thing happens! Now you know how the scope works and how to calibrate and test the Scope and the Scope Probes. We fully support You Mate, like Augenblick said, no matter what! You are truly on the right track! Please I ask you don't give up! This will work with the right fiddling, you have my word!

The best way to think of this is the same as the BTG, or Kapanadze's Grenade Coil:

Well, Turns Clock Wise and Turns Counter Clock Wise, the exact same basic operation is the same! We must have Magnetic Resonance, which you are 100% spot on and the Voltage must be Increased sufficiently, remember: I = V / R

You saw the Voltage and Current increase under load, this is how it works, to a point. Increase your Load!

It is easy for the Skeptics to have a field day from this sort of thing. But as I said, sooner or later it was inevitable, something would go wrong, but that's life! We have to Motor On!

Evolution is not for the faint hearted! We must push forward to succeed! How many rockets did SpaceX loose before getting to Space?

@Loz, get your scope back on track, throw out Bad Probes, do regular Scope tests and Calibrations, and we will get you back on track! Avoid all High Voltage Testing on the Scope, High Voltage can damage Probes and the Scope!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friends,


Captainloz posted this 31 August 2020

Hi Chris,

Thanks for those wise words!

After further calibrating of my all probes I've detriment that the probe I thought was good (the one in the video) is also bad! I haven't had time to re-test everything yet. If I'm not over unity, I'm very close! You know, I think part of the problem is I also find my own results hard to believe so I'm very open to the idea I've made a mistake somewhere.  And that has made me too quick to dismiss my own results. With that said even though I have found serious problems, that doesn't mean this experiment is a bust. 

The last video was just to show the bad probe and the huge difference between the two (even though both those probe were bad!). I don't think I had all the Math settings set up correctly in that video. 

Chris my scope is a little bit different than yours in showing the Math data. I expect the Math data to be displayed with a W but it's showing V.  Even though I have the values set correctly on the probes. Math is AxB.  Measure, Source is on Math, but this keeps jumping to a CH this display doesn't have the little check boxes.  And All Measure Source- is set on Math this does have the check boxes like yours but this is just sets up what you see on the display.  I need to find and download the manual to see why I'm not showing Watts next to the math data.

Anyway, I will be a lot more carful now in posting results.  I've learnt a lot from this experience. 

Jagau,  I want to carefully set everything up before taking a screenshoot of all the data for your review.

-A-, thanks for your support. Talk about a slap in the head. I was feeling very defeated but after I found the 2nd bad probe I'm more focused than ever. 




Jagau posted this 31 August 2020

Hello Loz
Don't worry my friend, I learned a lot myself with your thgread, I thank you. At least you have tried it, discouragement is easy but I believe that by working together we can succeed.

I would have another video by the same author as another one proposed to you, this one is very very interesting too
good reading

P.S. In this video you will understand that sometimes you will have to increase the value of the sensing resistor to get a reading on your oscilloscope.


Chris posted this 31 August 2020

Hey Loz,

The Oscilloscope is a steep learning curve. I was lucky, a very good friend, whom I miss dearly, taught me everything I have been fortunate enough to learn on the Scope about 10-12 years ago now. Oscilloscope's are all a bit different, but have the same basic ideas.

The Math showing Watts issue, could be a few things:

  • On your scope, you may have to Set Watts as the units?
  • SourceA might not be set correctly.
  • SourceB might not be set correctly.
  • Make sure A x B is set correctly.
  • Make sure each Probe Channel is working correctly.
  • Make sure your Wave Triggering is set Correctly. Jagau pointed out Auto for this.


Reset all Default settings and start again from scratch is sometimes the best way to move forward.

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friends,


Augenblick posted this 01 September 2020


Ironically, two new Tektronix probes arrived from Seattle a few days ago. Mine were very outdated/abused, as is the CRT scope.

So I decided to buy a RIGOL DS1054Z  today: $349 USD, no tax, free shipping, with 5 yr warranty ... hard to pass by. ... too blind to read the data, but the colors are really awesome, right?

So *all* your efforts do ripple out to our benefit.

Chris, you're a great coach, tech, and lab instructor!

Be vigilant, to be safe.


... in the blink of an eye.

Chris posted this 01 September 2020

Thanks Augenblick, I aim to help where I can.

I hope all here will correct me, point out any mistakes I make, or improvements on the procedures I have tried to provide?

Others here are very much more advanced than me!

I think it is very important we get everything 100% Spot on, error is my least favorite friend, I aim to be correct and accurate at all times, even though sometimes this is open to interpretation.

A simple DC Test on your scope is a very good practice, you then know, your scope and Power Supply are Accurate, bench marking never hurts.

Also, this good practice, getting in the habit of taking Accurate Measurements, it gives Direction and Confidence!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friends,


Vidura posted this 01 September 2020

Hey Loz, Just wanted you to know that I have made mistakes with measurements some time ago. It is certainly a bit frustrating if we believe that we made it, and suddenly the bubble bursts when we realize that something was wrong. But keep up your great effort, be confident that it is possible, there are several Devices that are showing AU and they can be made self sustaining. Personally I have become a bit more cautious after my measurements mistake, and try to always double check with different methods when I got promising results. I found it very useful to put some analogue meters, which proved to be less sensitive to interference and quite reliable . The Scope is an amazing instrument, but I found in some special cases no explanation for the response of the screen. I wish you all the best, be confident, we will be successful. Vidura.

Captainloz posted this 01 September 2020

Hi Guys,

I really appreciate all the support and advice.  And thanks for your understanding. I'm so happy everyone here is actually helping and not criticising.  I will post new results as soon as I can. 



Chris posted this 03 September 2020

My Friends,

Only a few more steps here and this could prove to be very beneficial!

A measurement error just before the Precipice of Success, like I said, Input Coil adjustment to get 1/4 Wave, is a dire blow to Success! A dire discouragement on the Precipice of Success!

Success comes after Understanding and Hard Work:


I do hope we all take this work serious, and do not allow measurement error discourage progress.

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friends,


cd_sharp posted this 04 September 2020

Hey, Chris

By listening very carefully all the videos with Don Smith, I can say the way the following device works could be related to your previous post:

He says it's the power cord length, suggesting it's stretched, but could also be wrapped in a coil.

Also, we must not forget there can be standing waves in the stretched wire:

All of these are worth exploring.

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Chris posted this 04 September 2020

Hey CD,

Be careful not to confuse Acoustic Waves and Electromagnetic Waves. We are viewing very different things in some instances.

Ref: Nothing is something by Floyd Sparky Sweet PHD


Floyd Sweet talks about both types of Standing Waves, Electric and Magnetic by changing the way the System is configured.

The Speed of Light ( c ) is still present, but because a Standing Wave has C + -C = 0, same is true of H, H + -H = 0. I believe the next bit is a typo.

Thank You for posting this, it is worth seeing the difference here!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friends,


Captainloz posted this 13 September 2020

Hi Guys,

I guess some of this thread can be a used as a good example of how easy it is to make measurement mistakes. Haha! Hopefully people will learn from my mistakes!

Here is a quick video showing results with my new scope. My old scope is damaged and won't display the Math data correctly.  I don't think the circuit is above unity. I think I've damaged all my .01ohm resistor blocks because I pumped too much current through them.  The real test will be when I get my new 50 watt wire wound 1 ohm resistors to try in the circuit.  I'll will post results once they arrive.



Jagau posted this 13 September 2020

I will follow your new data with interest.
Don't worry as you say so well we've all learned. So we keep learning
Cheer LOZ


Chris posted this 13 September 2020

Hey Loz,

Very simple bench marks, above, will show any errors with equipment. Thank You for sharing Loz! Great work!

I agree with Jagau, learning is fun! Learning is Evolving!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friend,




Jagau posted this 14 September 2020

Hello Loz

I believe the measurement on 0.1 ohm tare resistor is correct.
Do not forget that the oscilloscope measures the voltage only not the amperes, so by the math menu to oscilloscope measures the voltage and converts it in watt. This does not mean that your 0.1 ohm resistance dissipates 17 watts, it is the value of the total power of the circuit.
So your measurement is correct because if we knew each component resistance value (I mean all the wire ends and series component) of your circuit each dissipates power not just your 0.1 ohm resistance.

Your measurement is therefore correct

P.S. This confirms that your circuit gives a little more power than your power supply gives.


Captainloz posted this 14 September 2020

Hi Jagau,

I still think it's possible I've damaged my 0.1 ohm resistors. I should have some 50w 1 ohm resistors arriving soon, So I will re-test and post the results. Obviously I hope you are correct but I'm very gun shy to say I have above unity at this point. Time will tell.



Chris posted this 14 September 2020

Hi Loz,

One Ohm Resistor will not give you accurate scope measurements.

One Ohm will reduce the accuracy of the Current measurement on low currents. It will introduce more Circuit impedance and reduce over all accuracy. 

The 0.1 ohm resistor was carefully chosen for many reasons.

A one ohm resistor, will likely be: Wire Wound, not suitable for our experiments!


Loz, you are not following any of my recommendations to solve simple problems?

I feel we have something going on here? Is there something I need to know about? I am getting a feeling of unsettled emotions here.

Is there a problem between us?

Best wishes,


cd_sharp posted this 15 September 2020

Hey, guys

@Loz, in order to damage that resistor you need to force it dissipate at least 5 Watts. That means you need to push :

I = sqrt( P / R ) = sqrt ( 5 / 0.1 ) = 7.071 amps through it . If you did that I think it would show some burn marks on the surface of the resistor. Is that the case?

Chris is right, you can use a 1 ohm resistor only to measure very large currents. If it's wire wound it probably has way too much inductance to be of any use.

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Chris posted this 15 September 2020

Hey Guys,

Loz, I am concerned for you old mate. CD is right, its going to take some serious heat to damage the Resistor! You really want to stick with the 0.1 if you can, or at least replace it with the same model with 1% tolerance.

If you do a real simple bench mark, test your equipment, all the fuzzy uncertainty goes away!

Benchmark before Scope Calibration:


Test and Benchmark after Scope Calibration:


Test and Check your probes with a DC Power Supply. Of course bad equipment needs to be found and resolved. By doing a few simple tests and Benchmarks, you can validate all your equipment in about ten minutes.

Please mate, do this at earliest opportunity and eliminate any equipment uncertainty's! Quick clean and simple! You will be glad you did I promise! Its really satisfying to know you have solid gear!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friend,


Captainloz posted this 16 September 2020

Hey Chris,

I did check my equipment before this experiment.  Everything is pretty spot on.  However, I've already swapped my resistors to 1 ohm 50watt. I think Itsu had a good idea on this. They can handle more than enough watts for this experiment. But you are right it's obviously better to use 0,1 ohm resistor.  I'm going to order a some 0.1 ohm 50 watt resistors because I'd rather not have the extra 1 ohm in the circuit. Don't worry my friend we are all good.  I'm just a little disappointed in myself for rushing out results. Maybe I'm trying to be too transparent to my own detriment.   

I have a brand new 100mHz scope and probes. I'm measuring the input and output all in one take. I have the probs and scope set to 10x because of the higher voltage. 

Hopefully now people can be confident I'm measuring things correctly!  Although please tell me if you see something that's wrong!  I will not be offended.  Chris please know I am following your instructions, I honestly wouldn't be this far along without you.  I really think this is the simplest experiment to show asymmetrical regauging.  You can see the sawtooth wave, and it won't work if you disconnect the L3 coil.  

Chris posted this 16 September 2020

Hey Loz,

I am really pleased we don't have a problem! I had a bad feeling is all.

You do awesome work! We all love having you here with us! You are a valuable Member! I love all Members here and will do anything I can for you all!

Right now, you have: COP = 25.9 watts / 11.6 Watts = 2.2327 for an open Core, leaking Flux all over the show, is awesome! Which is the goal! Not achieved, by any other forum!

I know this is possible, and I am very confident you are close, but, please, I ask you, please be very wary with the measurements on those 1 Ohm 50 Watt Resistor. Its Wire Wound for sure. Its really hard to get any conclusive result. As the Voltage goes up on that Resistor, the measured Current will distort more also.

Here is an example:


If Itsu is using the same Resistors, to get accurate measurements he also needs to put them away and use better Precision, non wire wound, Resistors.

You bring up good points! I should have explained I was not totally clear, 5 Watts marked on the metal strip resistor is the rated value, but it can handle more.

You have done an awesome job! Cool accent too! hehehe wink

I care a great deal for you all and am very proud to have you all here with us, doing what we are doing! We are making History, all of you!

I try very hard to give accurate information, but if I do get anything wrong, please, everyone let me know so I can correct!

Also, I want to say, very nice Scope Practices, looking really good now!

You are successful but I really want to stress the Wire Wound Resistor is a real problem. If we want others to take us seriously, we really need to loose the Wire Wound and go back to something others can have confidence in! Even if you need to drop your Input down some to do it.

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friend,



P.S: Sorry, had a few edits.

Vidura posted this 16 September 2020

Hey Loz, Please don't take this the wrong way, Your experiment has potential to be AU. But Chris is totally correct with the wirewound resistor. These components are actually a combination of resistors and coils, which is fine and accurate for DC current only. When dealing with pulsed current or AC, the inductive reactance will add to the readings on the scope, and values will read too high. I will post on the measurement thread some more extensive, also about another issue with shunt resistors, and how to solve this. Regards Vidura.

Captainloz posted this 16 September 2020

Hey Chris and Vidura,

Oh man, I thought I'd had it this time.. Hahaha!  It's all good, the reason I'm here is to learn and hopefully teach others, even if it is from my mistakes. Hahahah! 

Okay I'll swap out the the wire wound resistors and retest. 

Thanks Guys!


Captainloz posted this 17 September 2020

Hi Chris and Vidura,

Yes there is a big difference between a the wire wound and a small ceramic 1 ohm resistor I have.  Although still showing a little extra out.  I'm sure I can get this better!  



Chris posted this 17 September 2020

Hey Loz

Thanks for sharing!

You have a lot of very expensive equipment on your bench! More Equipment than most Radio Engineers I know!

A Precision Resistor falls into a very specific category! 

Most Ceramic ( Concrete ) Resistors are also Wire Wound. I replied to your PM with more on this.

Non-Inductive normally means Wire Wound.

You have taken Resistors that could be trusted, out, and put Resistors, that can't be trusted, in.

A Precision Resistor is not Wire Wound. A Precision Resistor is Metal Film, Metal Strip, or similar, a Resistor that has absolute minimum Inductance and Capacitance, very low Tolerance.


I have covered this in great detail in this and other threads. Sorta feeling like advice is falling on deaf ears. Sorry mate, my position is one of responsibility to make sure, the right path is being taken, however, we are making mistakes that have already been warned about and could be avoided.

I feel like its making me look like a fool in front of everyone.

Even though this is totally, 100%, warned about in this and other threads.

I put a Mammoth effort in, to help others, to post information, making sure the most accurate information possible is posted and having as much supporting information with it, as possible. We have taken steps to be better than any other forum, with the best, best practices on the entire internet. Taking time to reply to PM's and emails and support everyone the best I can here and abroad. I work extremely hard to make this work, to make sure everyone that comes and reads our information takes us seriously!

No one will take us seriously with known bad, or un-trustworthy Resistors to measure Current!

I really am trying to ask nicely! Please follow the Best Practices, we, Members here, have already laid out.

I will not allow this forum to become a laughing stock, due to others not following recommendations and Best Practices, already laid out.

I hope you understand where I am coming from?

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friend


Captainloz posted this 17 September 2020

Hey Chris,

Yes, the one thing I learnt very early on is to have good equipment to see what's going on. Although it can get expensive when you make a mistake....

I get it my friend, unfortunately I missed your advise on this (in this thread). i had been more concerned in making sure my meters were all calibrated and didn't take the time to think about the circuit. For that I'm sorry i mean no disrespect. I don't mean to take up all your time.

If people are laughing at me then that's on them.  I'm have been very transparent on everything I've done and have not tried to misled anyone.  These are honest mistakes and this forum has been quick to point them out. There is a lot that goes into this stuff and sometimes I just forget things I've learnt a long time ago.  

I'm not sure how I'm making you look like a fool? If anything I've made myself look like one.  

Anyway, I know I'm very close to showing an above unity machine.  And that has always been my goal here. 




Chris posted this 17 September 2020

Hey Loz,

No one here, will ever laugh at you! I promise! All Members here are very Respectful and Honest, would only ever help when they see a problem! You have no problem there, I promise! We love having you here with us!

That advice from others, not members here, if I may ask, please verify that advice before putting that into practice? You have received bad advice, from others, not Members of this Forum!

That's where this trouble has come from! If you can read in between the lines a little there?

On another note, if you want Precision, here is a beauty: 


Minimum Inductance, minimum Capacitance, low Tolerance, a real nice unit!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friend


Captainloz posted this 17 September 2020

Hi Chris, 

I do appreciate your support, and understand what you are saying.

I do have people contacting me from other forums. And from around the world, it does take up time I don't have. I don't know how you do it... I am only committed to this forum. I'm continually driving people to join us here to find what they're looking for. 

No I don't have anything new to share right now. However I am sharing all my latest work. I'm trying to make it as easy as possible for anyone to replicate.  I think if we make something that is easy to replicate it will spread very quickly. 

We need to keep it simple.  My goal with this experiment is to show bucking coils / asymmetrical re-gauging in the simplest way possible. I took this idea from one of your videos.

You have given us all the information we need, it's all here! I've just got to stop making silly mistakes and put it out there in way it can not be disputed. 



Chris posted this 17 September 2020

Hey Loz,

The absolute, most simple place to start is the Circuit and Layout I gave, that you follow:


Action, Reaction and Counter-Reaction


Trust me when I say, there is no simpler way! I have spent many years on this, many years! I have given everyone, everything, you take the path that many others don't!

Don't allow their lazy to become your burden!

The ones that have not gotten themselves banned for bad behaviour, have the opportunity to join us, they do not take the opportunity!

We have no obligation to those that wont help themselves!

I have given the Cheapest, most simple Energy Machine that History has ever seen! No one before me has given such a simple Machine that shows Concept! This is just the start!

Remember, you are at the beginning. Much more ahead, many tips and tricks gained over time.

All information I have shared, has been shared in the Public Domain, since 2011 in a slow release format. Giving every single Human Being on the Planet access to the Technology!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friend


cd_sharp posted this 18 September 2020

Hey, Loz, in my opinion, your measurement block should be reverted to the original. I've never found better current sensing resistors than the ones in the AU measurement blocks. I hope you don't mind my sincere opinion. Best wishes!

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Captainloz posted this 19 September 2020

Hi Cd,

I appreciate your opinion. I've gone back to the 0.1ohm resistors. I'm now using brand new ones just encase I damaged the last ones I had.  By the way, I love the quote by Steven Mark you have on your posts, so true!  There are so many different ways to make them interact with each other.  Just finding the best way is the trick. Hahaha!

Hi Guys

In this quick video I've moved the air capacitor to the L2 coil, it gives a very nice rise in energy.  Now, because the capacitor is in series with the L2 coil I understand there are possible phase angle inefficiencies that could show a slight measurement error.  However I believe the scope is taking that into consideration. I think I'm showing enough AU to allow for any errors caused by Air Capacitor Parasitic Capacitance.  Take a look and see what you think. 

I'm going to move on from this now because there are other things I want to try to make it even more efficient.





Chris posted this 19 September 2020

My Friends,

I want to thank Loz for all his excellent efforts! It is great to see such wonderful progress! I am so pleased we have good, very low inductance, very low capacitance, low tolerance, Current Viewing Resistors back in place! Thank You! Remember, we work for the Future, for our Children and their Children! The Unborn! For Humanity!

I ask everyone to put their support behind Loz! This video is very good! Even though we admit there are still problems here, we still have a very large margin of error.

  • Yellow Trace: Current ( 10A / Div ) 7A x 0.707 = 4.949A Not sine, but an approximation.
  • Teal Trace: Voltage ( 20V / Div ) 70V x 0.707 = 49.49V Not sine, but an approximation.
  • Input: 17.106 + 2.405 = 19.511 Watts
  • Output: 37.1 Watts
  • COP: 37.1 / 19.511 = 1.9015


NOTE: The similarity to measurements in Video 5. In the first post.

The Scope Bandwidth is 100MHz so less than 1MHZ is well within the Bandwidth! A Brand New Scope freshly Calibrated.

The Input to the Switching Unit really should not be included in the Input as this could be made very much more efficient! So please understand, the 2.405 Watts is currently included on the Input and should not be!

Lets work out the margin of error:

  • Conventional Transformer efficiency: 85%
  • Current efficiency: 190%


So, 190 - 85 = 105% margin. Now if we lost 50% to Stray Capacitance and Stray Inductive losses, and various other losses, we are still 55% over the average Transformer Efficiency! That is: 19.511 Watts x 0.55 = 10.73105 Watts over and above the Input, this means we have: 19.511 Watts + 10.73105 Watts = 30.24205 Watts, with a 50% Error. These numbers should be enough for any Logical mind to warrant more investigation.

Everyone that wants to replicate this and contribute to the effort here, some other things that can be done to make the margin smaller:

  • Shorten all cables, keep all cables as short as possible.
  • Remove all unnecessary Circuit Impedances: The Input, the 1 Ohm Resistor and other things.
  • Test with and without the Air Capacitor for Measurement differences.
  • At this frequency, look at better possible Current Viewing Resistors: Metal Film or something.
  • Test Temperature of Current Viewing Resistors to make sure they are within the range of accuracy.
  • Look at the application of Ultra Fast Diodes.
  • Look at trying to smooth the Scope Traces some, perhaps Rectify for DC Output and measure.


Please understand, this is early days, many improvements can be made! Tuning and fine tuning is still a path to make improvements on the COP.

Remember: As I said above, Loz is measuring only One Output Coil ( L3 ), the very same quantity of Power is also Flowing in the other Output Coil ( L2 ) which is still unmeasured and therefore unaccounted for.

Others will try to dismiss this effort, but I am telling you, Loz is 100% on the right path, please don't forget history and what we have seen throughout history: Floyd Sweet, Don Smith, The MEG Team, Akula, Ruslan, Tinman and many others! I promise you, this is the path forward! Even if we find some sort of measurement error here, this is still the path forward! Please go and verify this on Tinman's RTV3 Thread.

I would love to see others joining in and sharing if they can? I know many have another circuit they are working on right now, so maybe in a week or so?

NOTE: At this stage, practicing and improving Scope Best Practices, Measurements and testing equipment is something I recommend, this will help in the Path Forward! I do not recommend looking at Measurements when one is starting, simply because it is discouraging and side tracks Experiment.

Loz, Thank You for sharing! We all very much appreciate all your excellent effort here!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friend


Chris posted this 19 September 2020

My Friends

Very quickly, I want to point out:


The Resistance of this globe at 12 Volts and 7.5 Watts, is 19.2 Ohms approximately.

If the Voltage across this Globe was 24 Volts, that means, according to Ohms Law, the Globe is consuming the Power of: P = V2 / R = 24 Volts2 / 19.2 Ohms = 30 Watts.

Please be careful not to dismiss this because of the type of Load! A foolish person, supposed to be an expert in Electrical Engineering, has argued with me on this without doing any figures to support the serious malfunction he was having. It so disappoints me, we have so many professionals that are truly stupid!

Could more than 30 Watts really be consumed in that Load - Absolutely Yes!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friends


Atti posted this 20 September 2020

Hey Loz.

I may see it wrong. But it seems more like a series resonance to me. If it is only connected in place of the diode and there is no other change.
Nothing changes from this comment. This is just a comment.



If you want try this.

In this way, do not open any type of doubts regarding
to the power at the load, since the capacitor will store
all the energies that circulate through your secondary.

I hope it helps.YoElMiCrO.

I have not made measurement here. This is not relevant now. But watch the capacitor insert. Maybe it should be considered.


YoElMiCrO posted this 20 September 2020

Hi all.


I have the circuit finished, but I have not tested it.
Today is late, tomorrow without fail I will try it.
I'll let you know everything I find about it.
I also want to analyze your video and compare it to
my results.

Thanks in advance.


Chris posted this 20 September 2020

Hi Atti,

I do not ever want to mislead anyone!

This means, we must be equally:


You must understand, a Capacitor is a Short Circuit when the Voltage is Zero. At short Circuit Conditions, the maximum Current Flows.

Maxwell's Displacement Current:


Amperes Law:


The logic behind the Theory is, Current must Flow Through a Capacitor.

To be Scientific, we must, by definition, be: agnostic and devout at the same time, not being one or the other! We must investigate the effects properly.

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friend


Captainloz posted this 23 September 2020

Hi Atti,

Yes it is series resonance, I did make the edit to that post. Thanks for pointing that out!

Hi YoElMiCrO.

Thanks for the video I need to study some more.  I'm not following well.  

Really busy with work at the moment. The only thing I've done is to try different winding arrangements.  It completely changes things so much more to try!

Hi Chris,

I really appreciate your posts.





Chris posted this 26 September 2020

My Friends,

I was really hoping to see more here replicate Loz's work and sharing their results.

I know many are busy with Jagau's Circuit. This is really simple however, and also really important. Please don't pass this over guys and gals. Its much more important than many may realise!

Many here have replicated this work, as many already know, its very easy! It is very easy to make improvements, to make this more useful! The Input Coil, the Input Circuit, and the Output can all be improved!


  1. The Input Coil can be made much more efficient.
  2. L2 carried Power of X
  3. L3 also carries the same Power of X


We can make this very much better than we have seen in some cases. We have: Asymmetrical Electromagnetic Induction

Meaning, we have: Action, Reaction and a Counter-Reaction all occurring, via Electromagnetic Induction, in one machine at once!

   1: Action = Primary Coil Current changing in Time: di/dt
   2: Reaction = Secondary Coil Opposing the Primary, Current changing in Time: di/dt
   3: Counter-Reaction = Tertiary Coil Opposing the Secondary, Current changing in Time: di/dt

Each "Current changing in Time: di/dt" is a Magnetic Field as we all already know!

Each time we see: di/dt we have the opportunity for Electromagnetic Induction to Occur, and it can be in more than one direction at a time! The propagation of Magnetic Fields can a occur in more than one direction at a single point in Time.

Some of you, here, are very advanced! I know already many have very advanced machines. Everyone wishing to learn more, this is your opportunity!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friends


Chris posted this 27 September 2020

My Friends,

FYI: Captainloz Video 9 (showing COP = 2) replication

Currently, they are not even close! They just don't have the understanding you all have here! I have said before: One needs a Background Understanding to make this work! As you all here have got, and as a result, you can make this work!

I wish they would listen to us!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friends


Chris posted this 01 October 2020

My Friends,

I hope this helps some:


Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friends


Chris posted this 02 October 2020

My Friends,

I really want to sound like a broken Record! Sorry, this needs attention!

CaptainLoz's basic Circuit:


Applying some simple Math to the Loads, where Resistors in Parallel are:

1/RT = 1/R1 + 1/R2 + 1/R3 = 1/70 + 1/70 + 1/19.2 = 1/0.08065476190476190476190476190476 = 12.398523985239852398523985239852, and using basic Ohms Law: P = V2 / R = 252 / 12.398523985239852398523985239852 = 50.40923 Watts.


1/RT = 1/R1 + 1/R2 = 1/70 + 1/70 = 1/0.02857142857142857142857142857143 = 35, and using basic Ohms Law: P = V2 / R = 252 / 35 = 17.85714 Watts.


You will see, it is the same basic Circuit as mine, as Loz pointed out:

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friends


YoElMiCrO posted this 03 October 2020

Hi everyone.

Whenever time allows me
I test with this Loz configuration
which is the same one that Chris has shared.
I have realized that this technology is connected
directly with the propagation time of the magnetic field
within the core, so delayed conduction is important.
This end I continue with the experiments to better understand
its operation, as the variables on which it depends.


Definitely the magnetic field has inertia, your circuit
It proves it, I hadn't done any tests yet.
When i understand even partial of the variables that depend
I'll let you know.

Thank you all in advance.


Chris posted this 04 October 2020

My Friends,

I wish I had more patience with some people, but those that think they know everything, and try to correct others, when they simply do not know, frustrates me, to no end!

Can you believe this post here:

Itsu and AC,

I think I was wrong when I said Chris was using a full bridge circuit to drive the primary.  He appears to be using a high side switch only at least based on his own posting on his forum.  The info below is taken from-

If the pix below is what he is using to switch the primary, there is no path for the collapsing current to reach the power supply.  What there is however, is a path for the avalanche current of the P-channel mosfet to draw current from the power supply!  IOW, what he thinks is returned current is actually additional current draw from the supply.  This is his circuit gain for OU IMO!

To confirm this, I need to study his schematic which he supplies on his forum somewhere but all I see on the driver pcb that CaptainLoz is using in video #9 is one, large case semiconductor.

This would explain why he states that when a load is presented on the POC, the returned current increases.

If this is how he and all his followers drive the primary of his POCs, there is no OU!

The second pix shows the scope waveforms from his schematic.


Ref: Captainloz Video 9 (showing COP = 2) replication



Completely Wrong

Now, I am sorry, but Partzman has everything completely wrong! I cant believe how wrong he has it! I mean really? WTF!!!

This bit here, it is truly words of a blind man:

This would explain why he states that when a load is presented on the POC, the returned current increases.


No wonder they are SO FAR BEHIND! They have no idea what so ever! More than 40 years in the game and this is where he is at, oh my! I mean, he cant tell the difference between a N Channel and a P Channel Semi:

avalanche current of the P-channel mosfet to draw current from the power supply!


It is more than obvious, WE USE N CHANNEL MOSFETS!


Let me give you all a very small reminder of what happens when this is right:


Partzman goes on to admit his mistake:


Since CaptLoz is not responding to Itsu, I will propose the input scheme I believe Chris is using for his device.  I had stated earlier that there is no way for a single mosfet circuit to return energy to the power supply but that is not correct and I know better from past experience so, I'm blaming my 79 years young as the problem! 

Anyway, I've attached a schematic and scope pix of the input circuit and will explain how it works.  Ch1(yel) is the input pulse to the mosfet, CH2(blu) is the power supply voltage, CH3(pnk) is the output voltage across the drain, CH4(grn) is the current in L1, and Math(red) is the input power.

Initially, L1 is connected between + and ground via M1 and current begins to ramp up linearly.  At a given point in time M1 is turned off and the current in L1 starts to fall as the voltage across L1 attempts to reverse.  This action can not happen instantaneously however due to the capacitance that appears at the mosfet drain or Coss plus the parasitic capacitance of L1.  So, this total capacitance will begin to charge and we will see a half sine wave at the output of the drain as long as the mosfet is not going into avalanche.  When the voltage across the capacitance has reached a peak, the energy it contains will nearly equal the energy stored in L1 and the current in L1 will be zero.

Now, the charged capacitance will use L1 for the discharge path back to the + power source and will discharge back to zero volts and the current in L1 will now be negative and nearly equal to the positive peak current reached during the charging phase.  This is when the energy stored in C1 returns to the power supply as seen by the negative current and power on the scope traces.  Notice the relatively low net average input power of 43.7mw when the average input power for just the positive half of the cycle is 747.7mw in the 2nd scope pix.

I personally did not use this type of input circuit when testing my variations of the POC device but will give it another try to see if there is any possible OU.


Ref: Captainloz Video 9 (showing COP = 2) replication



Now, it would be nice to see: "Sorry everyone, Chris was right, and I did not pay enough attention".


Partzman, still does not have the full answer! He still misses the most important solution!

What is L1, your Input Coil, exposed to when it is Switched Off? Yes, that's right, Electromagnetic Induction via L2. Why are so many Experts so terrible when new things, they have not read in a book, been presented? WHY?

When others, use total non-sense, to try to explain, what they have no clue about, the Science community is in absolute turmoil!

Here is another post of absolute non-sense:

Chuckle~! C.C  Yes, this is what I meant.  The reason the output increases when that secondary is opened is that the leakage inductance created by the shorted secondary is gone.

If Chris is correct about the polarity connections on his POC circuit, consider the fact that the flux present in the core or air, can only change in magnitude over time due to di/dt but at no time is any additional flux or H field added to the circuit to provide a gain.  Now if the secondaries only conduct during the "off" time of the primary, [IOW reverse the diode connections] there may be some magic in the collapsing primary driving the connected secondaries through the leakage inductances.  This so called "leakage inductance" can store energy which few are aware off!

I know you are intent on replicating CaptainLoz's circuit and if he is still claiming OU at this point in time, it may be worth it.  For my 2cents, I don't think he has OU.


Ref: Captainloz Video 9 (showing COP = 2) replication


Completely Wrong

What did Don Smith tell us:


On the Magnetic side, you can make as many copies of it as you like


Making this claim: "but at no time is any additional flux or H field added to the circuit to provide a gain" exposes the total non-sense some people are exposed to, and push on others without having any factual evidence what so ever! What is clear, is Partzman is in total ignorance of Energy in the Magnetic Field and how Actions and Interactions occur in the Time Domain in Magnetics!

Assuming Electromagnetic Induction only occurs in One Direction is not only Foolish, it is outright Wrong!

It is clear, and presently obvious, to any logical mind: Greater than 90% of the Flux in the System is not anything to do with the Input Power, thus the Gain in Energy! Try explaining this to an Educated person! Good luck with that!

They currently, have 3 pages of nothing and it grows faster and faster, if they cant understand simple Science, and do not believe, why keep trying? Why do they persist? Is it because they know that its real, that they just do not understand it? How many independent replications, do they need?

What is clearly obvious, is Some People can not be helped! That is for absolute Sure!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friends,




P.S: I don't blame you at all for not responding to their questions Loz! Not at all! OMG!


AlteredUnity posted this 31 October 2020

I made a similar setup. Blue is input current from L1 over 1ohm resistor connected to collector, yellow is current on POC2. I can draw circuit if needed. Is this what I should be seeing? 

Blue current over 1ohm on input, yellow is poc3 over 1ohm



Little further back so you can see the work being done giving sawtooth waveform on POC

May have switching issues on second pic. Sorry for all the edits, phone issues. Haven't tried diff mosfet or transistor yet. 

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Hey AlteredUnity,

Thanks for sharing! One image is not working.

For help posting images, please see: Help with using the Forum.

Images must be under 2Mb.


@CaptainLoz - Are you still with us My Friend? Not heard from you for a little while. Hope all is ok!


Best wishes,


Captainloz posted this 03 November 2020

Hi Chris,

I've been taking a break on this one. For me this experiment was successful. As you said this principal and effect can be easily produced without a huge investment.  I encourage people to build and experiment. We can't do it for them    

I'm currently working on the Maxim Aliyev device that I purchased from Ukraine awhile ago. Now I have a better understanding I'm taking another look, building the coils from scratch.  I don't have anything great to share yet but hopefully soon! 

I saw a lot of rubbish about you and I over at   People saying that we are the same person... it's just dumb.. And other stuff that just makes me wonder if they want to build stuff or just pull people down.  You know me I've been very transparent. There just seems to be a lot of haters. And I'm not going to take orders from people too lazy to do the work themselves. 

Anyway mate I hope you're staying healthy and doing well.  You've built a great forum here, it's really helped me a lot!



Chris posted this 03 November 2020

Hey Loz

My Friend, I could not agree more! Lots of haters out there! Lots of people that are not out to help themselves, or others, only to Toll Others, that's why I Ban Trolls! I will never let this forum become over Run with Trolls like other Forums are!

Partnered Output Coils can easily be scaled up and as one scales, the Output goes up as a function of the Scale. 

Stay well and stay safe my Friend! Cant wait to see what you have when you get a minute!

I am happy you are still with us Loz, you're a good man! Ignore those Haters over at!

Best wishes,


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Chris posted this 04 November 2020

My Friends,

It is interesting, how the Haters respond: Captainloz Video 9 (showing COP = 2) replication

It is very interesting reading the posts, especially from the well known Trolls! It is interesting what lines of Text they, put in, and leave out, on purpose! They are very selective on what they write and how they post it, and its just laughable! They are so see through its not funny!

They come, they read our pages, they desperately look for guidance, they post non-sense:

From Itsu, of all people:

To me it is unbelievable that someone who is searching for Free energy can sit on a "Nobel prize worthy" device which produces twice the output compared to the input, "takes a break on this one" and goes working on another Free Energy device.


What Itsu does not realise, is how easy this is for us! He is still struggling with the basics of Electromagnetic Induction!

On another note, Tinman has resurfaced and replied:

Hiya AC

Are you sure this is true in all cases ?.
Can i throw a little puzzle your way. Let's call it TinMan's conundrum
Lets see if you or anyone here can answer it without building the circuit and trying it.

First up,lets talk LEDs.
We have say a standard 10mm white LED,and this LED conducts fully at 3 volts.
Now,we know when we have a 3 volt potential across the LED of the correct polarity a current must flow,and the current flow is in the direction indicated by the diode arrow of the LED.

So we first look at diagram 1 (V1).
This is pretty straight forward .
During the on time,current flows through D1,L1,and R1 as indicated by the blue arrow.
When the source is switched off L1 then becomes the source,and current flows through R1 in the direction indicated by the red arrow,and through L1 in the same direction as it was when the FG was the source.

Now we look at diagram 2 (V2)
We have the same coil,wound in the same direction,but we have tapped into the center of the windings,and added two LEDs between the windings.
When the FG is on,we once again see the current flow through D1,L1,R1,and now LED2.
LED2 see's a potential of 3 volts across it,and it starts to conduct,and current flows through L1 as in the first test.
But what happens this time when the FG switches off,and the magnetic field starts to collapse ?.
As you state,we see a reversal of voltage across the coil.
We now see in excess of the needed 3 volts across LED1,of the right polarity for the LED to conduct-->but the current flow is in the wrong direction !apparently! for that LED to work ???
So we have the correct potential now the FG has switched off,and the voltage across L1 has inverted,and enough voltage for LED1 to light,but the diode part of LED1 will not allow current to flow in that direction,as the current is suppose to continue to flow in the same direction once the source is disconnected-->right ;D

So,will Led1 light up when the source(FG) is disconnected,and the field starts to collapse?
Or will the current continue to flow in the same direction through LED2 when the field collapses ?.




Tinman is a Member here on this Forum, but has not posted here. Brad does visit us and read our forum on a regular basis. He and I have resolved our past issues and as far as I am concerned, we are now friends again.

Tinman will soon get tired of trying to teach those brainless people simple things and maybe in time, he may post here, once he realises they are lost in the Darkness!

Stefan from recently asked me for a list of Trolls on his forum. I have not yet replied, however, I think it is not my place to name others and it is something he should make his own decision on. Stefan is trying to Clean up his Forum!

I have such a giggle at these so called experts, the geniuses, or at least self proclaimed geniuses, have no idea what so ever on the most simple things we have not only covered but have Mastered in great detail!

I wrote:


We have already Banned some of the Trolls here! They will never get away with this sort of behaviour here! They have been dumped on their Ear, they just don't like the fact that we are so far ahead and that we will not tolerate their bad behaviour here!

We will Ban Them if they try to sign up an account here!

They have lost control! We now have all of the Control! We have beaten them and shown publically what they are really about! They will have their names written in Stone, problem is it will be for the wrong reasons and will be known thorough out history as Trolls!

The Facts:

For me this experiment was successful. As you said this principal and effect can be easily produced without a huge investment.  I encourage people to build and experiment. We can't do it for them


CaptainLoz is right, why cant they do it for themselves? They are Lost in the Darkness!


If only, they weren't so lost, they could have seen wonderous things like we have! They have no idea what so ever how far advanced we are! This is why we have the power over them now! We lead the world in Energy technology, they lead in, well I cant give you anything here, because they just don't have anything!

Hahahaha! Let them carry on with their Clownathon!

Best wishes,


Chris posted this 07 November 2020

My Friends,

I dont understand why Itsu cant achieve a simple Waveform! See what's going on with Itsu's experiment:


NOTE: Itsu states several things in the video that is just outright WRONG! On the verge of Misleading! E.G: Loz did NOT use 60 Volts, max was in the order of 30!

All Itsu has done, is build a very in-efficient Transformer!

He is using a 1Ohm Current Sensing Resistor! WHY? That's a lot of unwanted Circuit Impedance!

He does not appear to have followed the very basic advice we have given, his waveform is not right and basically his replication is falling over on every aspect we have shared!

What a shame!


Tinman, Loz, Jagau, Vidura, YoElMiCrO and many others here will see Itsu's work as another Failed attempt, and then Question as to WHY Itsu keeps failing the most basic things!

Itsu and I have had issues before, where he does not listen and follow basic important rules. Has he done the same this time around? Is it again a deliberate act, not listening? Not following the basic Rules laid out! It would seem so...

I grow tired of trying to help others when they will not help themselves, I have been doing this for a long time now. 2015 I started at, many years before that, on my own at, and truth is, nearly all Members here, have something, all at different stages, but very few want to share and show others and I can not blame them, this world we live in, is just wrought with Corruption and Greed! A dangerous world to live in! No one wants to poke their head out for fear of what might happen!

I do NOT Trust the Members, broadly, over at over unity research. Never have, never will.


Jagau posted this 08 November 2020

Hi Chris
It is normal that they do not have the same waveform as Loz, the output L2 and L3 are not connected like the circuit of loz. L2 and L3 should be completely separate,

in its connection we see res although it has inverted in their connection

Schematic of Loz


Chris posted this 09 November 2020

Hey Jagau,

My Friend, yes, you are right! The Waveform is different and it is a Tell Tail Sign, Itsu has it wrong.

Here is an indication, CaptainLoz's Waveform:


And, here is Itsu's Waveform:


Itsu shows no Energy "Generation" Waveform Characteristics at all! None, It is an indication he has it all wrong.

All here who have read my Pages, know immediately what Itsu is missing, which Loz has consistently shown all along! I am not going to repeat it again here for the millionth time!

With good research, and attention skills, every single Human Being on the planet can see where Itsu is going wrong, can Itsu? Can Itsu's friends point out where Itsu is going wrong? Do they want to point out where Itsu is going wrong? I think not! I may be wrong however?

Best wishes,



P.S: I hope Itsu is able to achieve Success! I wish him Luck! My Faith is currently some what eroded and perhaps a little lower than normal, my bad!


Chris posted this 09 November 2020


Focus specifically, specifically, the Actions and Reactions between your two Output Coils! Partnered Output Coils. For when you get these Output Coil Interactions right, this is when you get Energy "Generation" in the Machine!

Best wishes,



Chris posted this 09 November 2020

My Friends,

I post Itsu's response here:

Ref: Itsu's Response


Can anyone here tell me what Itsu has wrong? Why his Waveform is Wrong? What he is missing?

Do you see now why some days I get totally frustrated? If Itsu "closely matched Captainloz" don't you think Itsu's result would match Captainloz's Output result a little bit closer? I mean 0.7 to 1.9 is after all a long ways off! Others cant Learn when they know everything already! Can they? I don't know everything! I am still learning, even though I have learnt a lot already!

@CaptainLoz, My Friend, would you like to give Itsu a pointer here on your thread? No obligation My Friend. wink

Best Wishes,



P.S: I did give a hint, in the Scope's Waveform I posted from Loz. All here know what I am talking about!


thosewhocandothosewhocantteach posted this 11 November 2020

No diode should be removed or replaced, it's the main part of the POC principle.


Shouldn't the dot of L2 be on the right side, as compared to the layout image of Chris? I find the dot-convention confusing.

Chris posted this 11 November 2020


Yes, you are correct! This is important, at least in the early stages! As one is learning!

The "Generation" of Electrical Energy is very Specific! The Sawtooth Waveform is the Defining Waveform for Energy "Generation"! This was shown above in the Image I posted of CaptainLoz's Experiments and is seen all the way through CaptainLoz's Experiments! 

Itsu does not have any sign of Linear Slope ( Sawtooth Waveform ), meaning he has no Polarity of Fields right because he is missing the Diode to set the polarity! Energy is Pumped from the Source, the Linear Slope is then visible, as CaptainLoz has shown. The Atom, Electrons come from the Outer Orbitals of the Atom, One Ampere is 6.24 x 1018 Electrons / Second, and Itsu just does not have any sign what so ever of this very simple, critical, requirement.

Once this is achieved, this Linear Slope, it must then be Capitalised on and Maximized upon! The least Input, for the Most Output!

I hope Itsu can learn from this and progress forward with this information!

My Friends, you are all completely awesome and I have the greatest respect for you all! Success comes from our Soul, and if we all share our successes, then we grow in ways we have never done so before! We are destined to Evolve in ways that we cant yet imagine, but hey, It feels good to help others out, why shouldn't we help others out! We are all literally made of Star Dust!

Best Wishes,


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My Friends,

It appears Itsu is resisting Commonsense across the board on this. I wish he would take our advice, that is, if he really wants to make progress?

One must always Start at the Start! This is important and I have said this from Day One!

Itsu's response:

Ref: Captainloz Video 9 (showing COP = 2) replication


CaptainLoz said, in Video 9:


I think, any serious Researchers really need to take, and then implement, the Advice given, as all Successful Replicators here, have in the past, and to come in the Future!

Truth is, I have no intention of wasting anyone's time, for this reason, I am blunt and to the point! If others wish to give everyone around them the runaround, then this needs to be viewed for what it really is!

A Sensible Researcher, would follow the advice given and then decide what to do with the results. Loz Shared His results for all of you to see, now Loz is tired of all the negative attention he received! I don't blame him and I wish with all my heart others would Grow and Evolve instead of being Foolish and Petty! I have no control over this and it is a case of Hoping others will see those people for what they are!

Like the good Captain said: There are a lot of Haters out there!

Itsu's capitalised letters indicate, somewhat, frustration, sadly. But if he chooses to replicate what we share, then his effort must match that of what we have already achieved, or no replication can be claimed! It would be misleading to show and share anything else!

I appeal to Itsu: Please follow our advice, as CaptainLoz has, and make sure the Polarity is right, then, once this is done, a better result will be seen.

Best Wishes,


Captainloz posted this 12 November 2020

Hi Guys,

Sorry, I haven't been following along. I'm just really busy at the moment with work. I'm finding it hard to make time for any experiments.

Honestly I'd have to look back at my own videos at this point to see exactly what I was doing.  But Chris is correct I had everything working with the diodes in place first. I don't remember how much OU it was with just the diodes.  However once I put the air cap in place of one of the diodes it was an improvement.  That's in the last video I posted on this experiment, video 9.

My advise is to make sure you see the sawtooth wave at a lower duty cycle.  You have to see that before doing anything else. The length of the wire sets the frequency. The only adjustments I was making was the, duty cycle, voltage, and capacitance. 

Itsu, yes I did remove the diode on L2 in Video 9 (The diode on the load side supporting the lights).

Jagau, I don't think I have the dot convention right on my little drawing.  I still get confused by the dot convention! Haha!

Hope that helps!

Chris thanks for keeping this thread going!




Chris posted this 13 November 2020

My Friends,

It is very much EASIER to show a Failed Experiment than a SUCCESSFUL one! Especially when one wants to! 

Itsu's reply:

Ref: Itsu's Reply


I wish I could say, I find this response positive and constructive, with a definite direction Forward, alas, I can not.

  • Why cant he just stick to the advice given?
  • Why cant he just replicate what we have shared?
  • Why is he so Extremely Reluctant to avoid to the Replication we have shared? WHY?


It is obvious his Replication is a Failure! It is obvious he does not, at all cost, make steps in the Right Direction, even when Loz said:

But Chris is correct I had everything working with the diodes in place first.


This is why I post updates here of progress and STATE THE OBVIOUS!

  • Itsu has not followed Advice!
  • Itsu's replication attempt is not inline with Our Work!
  • Itsu is not qualified to make any sort of judgement or conclusion on Our Work based on the above facts given!


What we have shared, it truly is about as SIMPLE as it Gets! If one can not Successfully Replicate this Simple Circuit, then nothing can ever be Replicated Successfully! There is no Circuit more Simple than the Circuit we have Shared!

I urge all Members and Readers to look at the Long List of Successful Experiments, Others, Here, have shared, then make, Educated, Logical, Honest, Judgement.

If one person says it cant be done, but 30 people tell you it can, who should you put your faith in? The positive weighted average speaks for itself, in Favor! It is obvious the One Person has dire problems with their Replication! All logical minds must come to the same conclusion!

I really hope others can see a pattern here! It saddens me, that we have to deal with such Problems and can not just move forward with more and more Successes!

Once we have a basic Understanding, even Square Wheels can be made to work:


Without this very Important Understanding, Square Wheels are just Impractical!

Best Wishes,


Captainloz posted this 14 November 2020

Hi Chris,

I will say I'm happy to see others trying to replicate the coils on the ferrite toroids like I've done.  I really hope someone else can show the same results as me.  All the information is in this thread. I haven't held back anything. Nothing is hidden, it's all here! 

Honestly if people do exactly what I've shown they should get the same results.  It's the very basic circuit you put up for us. The credit really goes to you Chris! 

I don't know why Itsu is having difficulty, I know he is a smart guy. I remember following all his Ruslan experiments with great interest. I really hope he succeeds. Although I haven't seen any of his scope shots that are close to what I was showing. 

To all the people that say I'm measuring incorrectly.  I will not accept that until I see someone else show the same scope shots and then explain to me how it's a measurement error..

One thing that could be making a difference is the type of ferrite I'm using. I tried to find the receipt and looked back through my Ebay purchase but I can't find anything about the toroids I'm using.  I remember they were cheep, thats it.  There are no numbers on them, or identifying marks.

Anyway my friend thanks for keeping this thread alive!  I wish I was back in Australia right now this Covid thing is getting really messed up over here.







Chris posted this 14 November 2020

Hey Loz,

My Friend, I fully support you!

Your measurements are good! No one can make claim of Measurement Error - That's simply not true! Period!

Only TROLLS would make this claim!

We have seen this already! From the TROLLS! The Haters!

I agree, I want to see more people replicate what we have shared! BUT, I want to see others do it properly! Not introduce Silly and then make wild in-accurate claims about the performance! I want to see this done with some professionalism! If others cant do it properly, then I would rather see them NOT do it at all!

What you very kindly shared with everyone, is one of the most credible Machines ever introduced to Humanity! No Secrets, No Black Boxes! Just a few Wires, few diodes and the Right Frequency! You are a Hero My Friend!

My Friend, I am sending my Best wishes for you and Family in these Times! Its horrible what this world has come to! It was said as soon as Slow Biden got the job, he would put Lockdowns back in place! Thats exactly whats occurred! I just don't think its right! Its Criminal!

We are with you My Friend!

Best Wishes,


Chris posted this 14 November 2020

My Friends,

I ask you, please learn this, what we have shared! This thread and in the Thread: Chris's Non-Inductive Coil Experiment.

Soon, a new Geometry will be coming, and if you have not learnt this, and learnt this current technology properly, the next step will be difficult to grasp! This is really important before we move on to the next step!

Stick with the two output Diodes, at least until you have an understanding of how this technology works! Learn from others Mistakes!

The next step, the coming Geometry, will not be understood if you don't understand this first!

Best Wishes,


thosewhocandothosewhocantteach posted this 15 November 2020

A new Geometry will be coming?

Chris posted this 16 November 2020

My Friends,

It appears, Itsu's Captainloz Video 9 (showing COP = 2) replication has:

  1. Failed and he has decided to go no further
  2. Succeeded and he does not wish to publish any more results


You will notice a bunch of things on that forum:

  1. Little to no comments helping Itsu along.
  2. Very little to no posting on how it might work on other threads.
  3. So called experts go NO WHERE near this topic!
  4. Zero postings on Energy, E.M.F, M.M.F and how an Electromagnetic "Generator" is linked to this Machine!
  5. And the list goes on...


The term Lost in the Dark comes to mind:


Think why Itsu has been left, almost entirely by himself to work on this. Why have those members that have searched all their life, not tried to further this and help Itsu along? More than 400 Years of Combined Knowledge and Itsu is left by himself to do this.

Don't forget, we have a massive Track Record, from Tinman, to all the Members here including Loz sharing his work, we have many many replications under our belt, and not one of the so called gurus have helped Itsu along? Why?

In point of fact, We, Members here have helped Itsu along more than them, Itsu flatly refused to take our advice!

No one has been able to find any error, even though they make wild claims about this on many occasions! Not one of those so called measurement experts could find a single measurement error on Tinman's RT! Believe me, they TRIED with all their might!

We have the best measurement Protocols of any forum on the Planet! We check and double check with very good, very reliable protocols!

We are:

Light Years ahead of the other forums!


We all can tell you:





Doors open when one asks the right questions!

Tinman has tried to help them on many occasions, at one stage giving up and saying he was not going back, then after a long time he did go back and he tried again. There are no recent posts from him however.


Ask the simple Question:

"An Electromagnetic Generator is made up of several simple things. What about these simple things Generates Energy" - Don't say Shaft Torque as this is an Uneducated Brain Washed Scientists answer! Shaft Torque can never ever be converted to Electrical Energy! Simply, there is no Electrical pathway! No Transformation Mechanism! Shaft Torque is the Effect after the Cause, as in Cause and Effect! One needs to stop and think about it!


Best Wishes,


Captainloz posted this 16 November 2020

Hi Chris,

Thanks for the support!   


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Chris posted this 16 November 2020

My Friends,

After a PM from Loz, I realise I have been a little rough on Itsu.

I want to:

  1. Apologise, Sorry Itsu, I only meant to try and help!
  2. Invite Itsu to join us here, we can, and will, help Itsu advance this work! Gotta follow advice though ok?


We really need to see Successes, more now than ever before!

Best Wishes,


Chris posted this 17 November 2020

My Friends,

Itsu's Reply:

Ref: Itsu's Decline


I have read between the lines on this one, and I will, at this stage, keep my opinion to myself. Loz has also invited Itsu to join us!

Most would take a little Advice and add a Diode in the right polarity, for the Holly Grail, obviously not all!

Itsu is not aware of Members Here that have succeeded in getting the Same or Similar Results as CaptainLoz! Some Members are very much more than 2x! We have: "The Holly Grail" and have had it for a long time!

Best Wishes,


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Captainloz posted this 18 November 2020

Hi Chris,

I really appreciate you making the offer to Itsu. Thank you for that!

I think it's a shame he doesn't want to take you up on it... I was really hoping Itsu would come join us here. There are no strings here I'm not sure what he means there. Anyway I wish him luck. He had some good insight and questions and I really like that.  I'm sure he would have been a good addition to this forum.

Oh well...




Chris posted this 18 November 2020

Hey Loz,


There are no strings here I'm not sure what he means there.


That means: "cant succeed at any cost! Failure is the ONLY option". That's the way I read it anyway.

Best Wishes,


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Chris posted this 19 November 2020

My Friends,

I was waiting for it:

Ref: Itsu's workbench / placeholder


I really want to Highlight the sentence: 

Is there an explaination on why in this setup there is so much difference in the shape and form of the current trace from the 0.1 Ohm csr (see screenshot 1) compared to the current probe trace and 1 Ohm voltage trace (see screenshot 2)?


At first glance, it appears Itsu is trying to find Fault in our Measurement Protocols. Reading further, he does clearly state that's not the case, and I do appreciate this.

At least Itsu is being honest:

Not that it will explain the COP=2, but it puzzeles me how it is possible.


Itsu is looking at "In Circuit Impedance" and the Difference between 1 Ohm and 0.1 Ohm. A Difference of 0.9 Ohm. Now other factors are playing a role here, for example, Wire Wound 1 Ohm Resistors, we all the the problems we have seen with these Wire Wound Resistors. Extra Inductance and Capacitance Factors.

If the Circuit Impedance changes, the Current must also Change, the Voltage Drop must also Change! Its a Cascading issue and definitely something that needs to be taken into account!

We have already warned about this and most here will remember me saying: The 0.1 ohm resistors were very carefully selected for a very good reason.

It is really important to minimise the In Circuit Impedance to get an Accurate Result! Other wise, the Circuit will not perform as it would without the CSR Resistor in the Circuit.

I am very pleased, we here, have been able to teach Itsu something very Important!

Best Wishes



P.S: I learned these Measurement Protocols from a very good Friend and a HP Engineer that used to Engineer the HP Lab equipment a few decades ago. Our Measurement Protocols are SOUND and among the Best in the World! We truly are Light Years ahead of the Other Forums! You will note, the other forums have never accounted for Non-Linear Load Characteristics! We do and have always! 

P.P.S: See Measurements thread for information on the Video posted in Itsu's Post.


Chris posted this 19 November 2020

My Friends,

For your reference: From the Measurement Thread


My Friends,

In our quest to bring easy simple measurement to every person with an Oscilloscope, we have had a few issues that have cropped up, simple issues to fix, but issues one needs to be aware of.


Best Practice: It is always best practice to use a Current Sensing Resistor ( CSR some use the term CVR Current Viewing Resistor ) that will have the least possible effect on the Circuit! As if the CSR was not in the Circuit! Remember, you always want to take measurement on the Circuit , which means if you change the Circuit by introducing large Impedances, the Circuit is no longer the same! To take accurate Measurements, the Circuit must be minimally affected by introducing your Measurement Equipment! This is important!


Recently, Itsu has done a video on 1 Ohm vs a 0.1 Ohm resistor:


For sure, the 0.1 Ohm Resistor is Bad!

Ohmite Resistors are commonly Wire Wound, they say that they are not, or say: "Non-Inductive" but beware, they can go bad very easily!

CD_Sharp has seen this issue before and we have resolved this simply by replacing the Resistor.

This is another reason Equipment should always be Calibrated and Checked! We have not yet seen any issues with the Measurement Block I have shared with you all! The Measurement Block should always give you a solid stable Signal! However, it is wise to Test its accuracy on a regular basis!



  • Green Trace = Clamp on Current Probe.
  • Blue Trace = 0.1 Ohm Current Sensing Resistor.


Current Signals should always be the same! If they are not, as in Itsu's case, above image, there is a Problem!

I have left a Message:


Best Wishes




Itsu has a fresh round of "Surprising" data:

Ref: Itsu's workbench / placeholder.


This is an astounding series of statements! It really is!

Every single Engineer on the planet will disagree with Itsu's statement that a 1 Ohm Current Sensing Resistor is Superior!


Proving Incorrect

In the following circuits, you can see the Voltage Drop across the Load and the Current Sensing Resistor:


You can see, with a 1 Volt Supply, with a 0.5 Ohm Load, we get a greater Voltage Drop across the 1 Ohm Resistor than the Load, this means, more Energy is being wasted in the 1 Ohm Resistor than is being consumed in the Load!

This Circuit, because we introduced the 1 Ohm Resistor is now Mal-Performing by a factor of: 2

This circuit is NOT being measured properly, because we have changed the Circuit by introducing 2x In-Circuit Impedance is not greater than the Load!



This Circuit, because we introduced the 0.1 Ohm Resistor is now Mal-Performing by a factor of: 0.2, an improvement of 10 times!

Now we can say we have reduced the In Circuit Impedance by 10 Times and also have a Circuit that is MUCH Closer to the actual way the Circuit is supposed to actually work!

It is Best Practice to measure a Circuit, with minimal Introduction of Impedances!


Current Sensing Resolution

How does Resolution work?

The Voltage Drop over a Resistor is using the Ohms Law equations to determined Current via: I = V / R

NOTE: Current Sensing Resistors are ideal at specific Ranges of Currents! Beyond those Ranges, they are not adequate and should be replaced with adequate Resistors!

As far as I understand, 50mV per division is Industry Standard Baseline for Noise test. So anything below 50mV per division is not useful for accurate Measurement.

People must think about this! This is important!

If we plot, the Voltage Steps vs the Current we see something that is very important:


The deviation between the 1 Ohm Resistor and the 0.1 Ohm Resistor grows linearly, this means, the Error is greater per Voltage Step, on the 1.0 Ohm Resistor! Yes, Error!

For every 50mV step, which is mA if on has the Scope set correctly, is: 10x

What does this mean? Well, we are able to Measure much more finely, we can Measure, 10mA to 1mA, let me show you:


There you have it, the Resolution is much greater on the 0.1 Ohm Resistor than the 1 Ohm Resistor, we lost a whopping: 45mA compared to the 0.1 Ohm Resistor: 4.5mA. So you see here, we have 10 times the Resolution with a 0.1 Ohm Resistor! 10 Times More Accurate! Simply: 0.1 Ohms is 10x the Resolution of a 1.0 Ohms Resistor!


A Resistor is a Resistor is a Resistor

NO! You need to carefully select a Resistor to do the Job! The exact same waveform should always be available every single time between the Resistors, except for the above stated Resolution issues! If the waveform is in any way distorted, throw away the Current Sensing Resistor and get a Good One!

We have very carefully selected the 0.1 Ohm 1% Tolerance, Metal Strip Through Hole Resistor to accurately give measurements in median Current Ranges! Others can try to find fault all they like, but really, they just show how un-educated they are about such things!

A good Current Sensing Resistor should be nothing more than a piece of Wire of Known Impedance. Remember, keep all wire lengths short as possible! Always!




I hope you can see, why we are Light Years ahead of the other Forums! This, what I have shown here is simple stuff and they should know this stuff!

It is Industry Standard to use Very Low Resistance Current Sensing Resistors! This is very well known! Extremely Low Resistances, even as low as 0.0001 Ohms, or 100 μOhms.


I recommend all to do their own research and even check and double check what I say!


Rigol DP832 Precision Power Supply Current Shunt Resistor: 0.02 Ohms 1% Tollerance


The top of the line Keysight Current Probe uses a 0.1 Ohm Sensing Resistor! Thanks Jagau for the link!

Don't let yourself be led up the Garden Path, is easy, if you let this happen!

NOTE: This group of people that have been calling: "Measurement Error", on your machines for decades! Do you see why I have done what I have done?

Stick to Facts, Logic and what Makes Sense!

Best Wishes,


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Chris posted this 20 November 2020

My Friends,

For your reference:



The top of the line Keysight Current Probe uses a 0.1 Ohm Sensing Resistor! AC and DC Probe! The lack of education in this field is astounding! See why we are Light Years Ahead of the Other Forums! Thanks Jagau for the link!



If your Current Sensing Resistor has no more Inductance than a piece of Wire of the same length, then its affect in the Circuit will be no more problematic than that of a length of Wire! Common-Sense should always prevail! This is WHY we use tiny Resistances! To also minimise the Inductances! Keep your Wire Lengths short as possible, especially at High Frequencies.


I wont be trying to help Itsu any more. Itsu is not following Industry Standard Best Practices!

Rigol Precision Power Supply is just as accurate with switched, as DC Currents! These Statements made, I urge you to beware of! It is very easy to prove otherwise! No matter what the circuit and measurement method, stray Inductances are always a problem!

We have proven, at the frequencies we work with,'s Measurement Block is on par with the Rigol DP832 Precision Power Supply! Proving we have accurate Measurement Protocols! I cant speak for other forums however!

I have given, and shown all I need in my last, above, post to show you what you need to know.



Never let anyone else tell you your Measurements are not correct! If you have followed our Protocol, there is a very good chance, you are pretty accurate! Very much more Accurate than any one else, elsewhere on Other Forums! Remember, any Measurement is always just an Approximation, and should never be expected to be 100% Correct! 

The truth of the matter is, they are not qualified to make Judgment!

Best Wishes,


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Jagau posted this 12 December 2020

Hi loz
As Chris tells you don't let others think your measurement protocol is inappropriate. Don't trust those who come up with great theories not verified by the community who knows what they're talking about like John Bedini.

John Bedini used the same type of measurement as us with a resistance of 0.01ohm for the measurement of the input current during the 2014 Electronic Conference

See it in, Bedini SG advanced handbook page 28

In the book that Peter Lindemann wrote on "energy science and technology conference 2014", he describes very well how to do measures taken this way with this kind of resistance. I believe that if two engineers qualified in the fields of energy research made this decision we can certainly trust them.

There are of course more expensive means to take these measures but we go with what we have. Our established protocol is a good foundation and it is reliable. There is always a way to improve.

We can't wait to hear back from you my friend


Chris posted this 12 December 2020

My Friends,

Jagau is Wise, he is correct!

I have said before, the Measurement protocols we use are sound and legitimate!

I have a Friend that has given me these protocols from a Hewlett Packard Electrical Engineer! This Hewlett Packard Engineer used to Design and Build Measurement Equipment for Hewlett Packard! All I will say, is his name was Bob: ( Robert ). I am not saying any more because I was asked to be quiet on this and I will!

I have another Friend that taught me, on the Bench how to implement these Protocols! An Electrical Engineer, Trained in the Military, with decades of experience! Thank You Gerry!

Anyone that challenges this simple Science is either Stupid, or a Troll!

We truly have the Best Measurement Protocols of any Forum in the World! We are very advanced in the Field and I challenge anyone to better Our Already Extremely well Documented Protocols!

Any and every single Measurement is an Approximation and never 100% Correct! Always, there exists a margin of Error! The skill in taking any measurement, is to minimise this Margin of Error and this is exactly what we do!

Between a $2,000.00 Current probe and a $1.50 CSR, 0.1 Ohm Current Sensing Resistor, there may be a 1% Margin of Error. ( As long as one chooses a GOOD Resistor, NOT a Rubbish one! )

Do the math, anyone that is not smart enough to figure this out, and do the math, they are simply Trolling you!

Plain and Simple! I am really not a fan of Trolls!


NEVER ALLOW others to make judgement for you!


Always do your own Homework! Learn why a very small value Current Sensing Resistor in circuit can be so Accurate! Learn the basics! Little steps for little feet! But, NEVER ALLOW Others to make judgement for you! Advice is ok, but check and double check that advice! Even advice from Me!

NOTE: Some Members here on this forum, are extremely advanced and highly Educated in the Field of Electrical Engineering! They have also contributed to this Protocol! Beware, before you put your foot in your mouth! We have Measurement, Down, and Accurate!

We will not tolerate Trolls Here!

Best Wishes,



P.S: I do, so very much, wish others would replicate this and share as the good Captain has. This is so simple and it works! We have a Track Record better than ANY other! What we are sharing, WORKS! Its just Understanding!


Chris posted this 13 December 2020

My Friends,

This Thread is starting to go off topic!

Everyone needs to realise, if they do not already, Failure is entirely dependent on Understanding!

If one has not gained an Understanding, one will likely Fail!

I am sure, All Members here, that have succeeded, will agree?

Best Wishes,



P.S: The Message to Loz and others, is simply, a Successful Machine, in no way means any sort of Measurement Error! With Knowledge and Understanding, this is so simple, easily possible, that All Trolls out there now look like Dummies! Our Measurement Protocol is sound, that this, Can Not be over looked by any Scientist that is doing Real Science! Only a Troll can dismiss this!

Captainloz posted this 14 December 2020

Hi Guys,

I agree the measuring protocols we have here are solid and should be followed. Trust me I learned the hard way! I embarrassed myself a couple times...

The big problem I keep having is putting too much current through my measurement resistors. It does have an affect on their accuracy if you get them to the point when they turn blue from the heat. 

I've been working on a couple other devices that didn't pan out... so now focusing on Asymmetrical transformer again!  All roads keep leading me back to this type of transformer. wink



Jagau posted this 15 December 2020

Hello Loz

Yes, I believe like you that the key to our future research and success should focus on the asymmetry of transformers and their operation. I am preparing another thread on the subject, in parallel with the one I have at the moment. It deserves a thread on its own I think because it applies to all of us and I will try to document it as much as possible.

with demonstration proving its proper functioning


Chris posted this 15 December 2020

You Guys are Wise!

Logic Dictates we must follow the path of least Resistance and Optimum Result! Which IS what we are sharing!

Distraction and disarray must be eliminated!

People with common-sense will pickup the Ball and Learn what we are sharing! If they only knew what's possible!

Best Wishes,


Chris posted this 16 December 2020

My Friends,

It seems some are actually starting to wake up to the Facts?

NOTE: When people Fail, it is because they do not grasp the FACTS!

When many Rabbit Holes exist, it is easy to get caught going down endless Rabbit Holes! One must think logically, look at presented evidence. Look at what facts can be extracted. Itsu has made an interesting statement:

Ref: Itsu's workbench / placeholder


NOTE: I have used Off the Shelf Parts, all parts that are easily accessible to ANYONE! It should not be up to me to make things accessible to others, others should be able to do it for themselves also!

It is, very, clearly, obvious, Itsu has the wrong Mindset! Is Achievement in his skillset?

Itsu's greater than $2,000.00 Current Probe will have more Inductance than the 0.1 Ohm Current Sensing Resistor, but I think we all know where he is trying to go!


A piece of Wire the same length has more Inductance, check the Datasheet!



Don't forget, it was Itsu that told CaptainLoz to use a 1 Ohm Wire-wound Resistor to make measurements! Didn't we all learn how big a mistake that was!


I really hope Itsu is able to make progress! Many Hundreds of Others have! Itsu now has learned a great deal about taking Measurement! He should be able to achieve this very simple task! I hope! Especially with Loz helping him!

I was going to give up and no longer try to follow and help, I have done far more than my fair share! I will be giving this away soon and concentrating on other things! I have already done way more than most, to assist in this field!

I grow tired, I have started loosing patience, I see I have helped some, but most, are no better off. Most simply can not be helped! They cant help themselves let-alone be helped by others!

NOTE: I do believe, Itsu still has no idea, how accurate a Good, low Resistance Low Tolerance, Current Sensing Resistor actually can be! 

All Precision Equipment use this simple cheap Tech:


Don't Forget, Kirchhoff Current Law:

Kirchhoff's current law (1st Law) states that current flowing into a node (or a junction) must be equal to current flowing out of it. This is a consequence of charge conservation. Kirchhoff's voltage law (2nd Law) states that the sum of all voltages around any closed loop in a circuit must equal zero.


This is Why a CSR is so Accurate! Don't use Rubbish CSR's, choose good ones! Beware: We use 1% Tolerance, one can purchase 5% also, so if someone presents a CSR with 5% then this error will be very much greater! Beware of this!

Best Wishes,


Chris posted this 27 December 2020

My Friends,

Need I say any more here:

Ref Itsu's workbench / placeholder.



Do you see a MASSIVE, very MAJOR ERROR in Itsu's Work?


I get the feeling a lot of this is going on over there:


Itsu's focus on CaptainLoz's Frequency is detriment to his understanding, as 99% of our work is no where near these sorts of Frequencies!

E.G: Mine was 3Khz.

Floyd Sweets was 409Hz and then 60Hz.

Do not let Frequency be misleading! Itsu has missed a MASSIVE piece of the Puzzle! Massive Piece! So many desperate assumptions!


Self Running machines, we have them! Itsu and co, do not!


So many acts of desperation coming from this group!

Beware of infiltration:


Itsu said he did not want to be a Member of this forum, do you know why he said this?

Some Members here are not who they say they are! Or WHO pretend to be! Beware! Careful WHO you trust!

I do track all IP's and track Times of all logins and Site Visits. I generally know who is who! How, timing of posts and IP's with related data, you'd be very surprised how much data can be gained!!!

NO Personal data is stored! 

Who here, can tell me what Itsu has entirely missed? Making Itsu's work completely irrelevant and even misleading! Like you, I expect nothing but misleading from that group!

This Massive, very MAJOR ERROR will see them gone for ever! All Credibility GONE, their track Record, will make them the Laughing Stock! Laughed out of Town!


OMG this is a TOTAL Laugh! Massive Laugh, unbelievable! They all were so sure they had explained our work away, but when you see the answer, VERY SIMPLE, Electrical Engineering 101, you will not believe their act of desperation!

I hope you see now, why we are Light Years Ahead of the other Forums!

Best Wishes,


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Chris posted this 28 December 2020

My Friends,

I was going to wait and let someone else answer this question:

Who here, can tell me what Itsu has entirely missed? Making Itsu's work completely irrelevant and even misleading!


The Following renders Itsu's work completely irrelevant and misleading!


Electrical resonance occurs in an AC circuit when the two reactances which are opposite and equal cancel each other out as XL = XC and the point on the graph at which this happens is were the two reactance curves cross each other. In a series resonant circuit, the resonant frequency, ƒr point can be calculated as follows.



We can see then that at resonance, the two reactances cancel each other out thereby making a series LC combination act as a short circuit with the only opposition to current flow in a series resonance circuit being the resistance, R. In complex form, the resonant frequency is the frequency at which the total impedance of a series RLC circuit becomes purely “real”, that is no imaginary impedance’s exist. This is because at resonance they are cancelled out. So the total impedance of the series circuit becomes just the value of the resistance and therefore:  Z = R.

Ref: Series Resonance Circuit


CaptainLoz's circuit is in Resonance! It is a very basic Requirement, which means, VERY BASIC Electrical Engineering Requires all Impedance become the DC Resistance of the Circuit!

We have been through this many many times and all here know this stuff inside out!

Where do we find Maximum Current Output: Resonance or where Reactance is Zero!

Very basic Electrical Engineering knowledge and skills and they opted to ENTIRELY Miss the important information to try and explain our work! A miserable failure is an understatement!




I urge all here, that read their posts, to see, how easily it is to be deceived! Let no one DECEIVE YOU

And the "Self Proclaimed Guru's" fall to the bottom of the heap, showing their attempt, to mislead others!


Itsu, on the forum he is a Member of:


I hope you see now, why we are Light Years Ahead of the other Forums!

Best Wishes,


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cd_sharp posted this 28 December 2020

My friend, of course not taking into account the RLC resonance is a mistake. I see another fishy thing. I quote Itsu: "The red line shows the total measurement path taken before presenting this voltage to the scope to do some power calculations using this voltage as current":

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

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cd_sharp posted this 28 December 2020

Sorry, I've lost a part of the post. Question: Don't you think that when the scope is calibrated, the parasitic capacitance, impedance and others are not included in the compensation algorithm ?

Now, why would anyone make such a dumb and expensive tool sealed ?

I think Itsu is not trying to replicate. He's trying to undermine. The bad intention is there, in plain sight.

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Chris posted this 28 December 2020

Hey  CD,

Yes you're right!

Itsu is trying to show stray Inductance, saying stray inductance is one of our issues. It is something to be considered, but as you know, we have already covered this, and are well aware of this, loop E.M.F creating false readings. 

Vidura has covered this in great detail in our Measurements thread.

Impedance does change with frequency, Itsu is right about this, but clearly he does not understand that at resonance, Impedance becomes the DC Resistance. Normal rules, keep very short wire lengths on High Frequency machines, most of us do not work at high frequency!

In the Image you posted, it is blatantly obvious Itsu has no idea how a scope probe works! There is zero electric loop in the Scope Probe like Itsu has tried to show!

The above posts are very important for all here and elsewhere to read! Just as important to Understand. They are not the guru's they would like to have you believe, in point of fact, they make simple mistakes all the time and are not trust worthy! Simply they are not qualified to make any decisions or judgements on technology they have no idea how it works!

But, they do try, and we have seen them Fail Miserably, in a flaming ball of Triple Face Palms!!!


I really do wish every Member and Reader would closely study the posts: Here and Here. It is really important others see what we face, and how Totally Wrong they are! And how deliberately they try to push their agenda!

If only, they were a little smarter and did not end up putting their foot in their mouths all the time!

Best Wishes,


Chris posted this 29 December 2020

My Friends,

Itsu's response:

Ref: Itsu's workbench / placeholder.


Like the 1 ohm, Wire Wound Resistor, maybe this is a lesson that can not be taught here? Maybe one must learn from experience on this one. I have zero care about Itsu gaining any knowledge from us here, but I do care about others that have the Will to Learn and Evolve!


For Members and Other Readers:

Reactance is Circuit specific, Period. Reactance comes from Frequency the Circuit is running at! This means, as I gave reference to, the Series Resonant Circuit, like so:

Ref: Series Resonance Circuit


The Inductor, Capacitor and the Resistance shown, which is showing the Inductor and Capacitor Resistance ESR  and so on, the entire Circuit, every single bit of that Circuit, has No Reactance at Resonance!

  1. Never forget, Reactance is AC Resistance!
  2. Resistance limits Current Flow!
  3. We see Maximum Current Flow! Period! This means No Reactance!


Never forget this, it is simple Electrical Engineering 101, every single First Year EE should know this inside out! It is very important to know and understand!

For example: Add a second Inductor with known Inductance, retune the Circuit, to its new resonant Frequency, again the Reactance disappears, but only when Resonant!

Again, we have yet another example of others making a mammoth effort to try to explain OUR Work away with an understanding that is Completely In-adequate and Intellectually Challenged at Best!


Best Wishes,


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Generally speaking: When does resonance happen without a C?

I think the "resonance" to look for is in the 180 phase difference of the 2 output coils, like you demonstrated with an AC signal. a pulse must then be a 1/4 wavelength iirc.

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Chris posted this 30 December 2020

Hello Alann,

C is the Distributed Capacitance in the Circuit, between the turns and so on, All components have an element of C as they do Inductance L and Resistance R.

A Coil, standing alone, by it self will resonate at it's own Frequency, as does an Antenna! Does an Antenna loose all its Reactance at Resonance? Yes it does, it is Resonant and the Maximum Current can Flow!


When an oscillating force is applied at a resonant frequency of a dynamical system, the system will oscillate at a higher amplitude than when the same force is applied at other, non-resonant frequencies." 

So antenna resonance results in no reactance in the impedance at the feed point.

Ref: resonant half wave dipole?


I really do wish, the self-proclaimed gurus, over there, would wake up to their understanding that is Completely In-adequate and Intellectually Challenged at Best!

There is a lot of this going on over there:


I suggest, do some homework over on the other forums and count how many times they have made the call: "Measurement Error".

Then look at this very simple, extremely simple, data, I have shown them to be completely wrong and entirely In-adequate in their understanding! Imagine how many times before, they have been completely wrong about their assumptions! Like they are completely wrong here! 


Any and All Inductances, in a Resonant Circuit, lose their Reactance's, period, at Resonance, and any person disagreeing with this basic, Electrical Engineering, First Year, Textbook, Knowledge, is outright misleading you! 

It is clear, they are simply plucking straws from fresh air to suit a faulty analysis! They have no idea what so ever how an Antenna Works!


Again I quote:

At resonance the impedance of the CIRCUIT is equal to the resistance value as Z = R.

Ref: Series Resonance Circuit


It is classically funny watching them squirm out of this massive, very major Error! They are so, absolutely, totally, wrong!


At Resonance, Maximum Current, where: One Ampere = 6.24 x 1018 Electrons per second, past Terminal T1, must flow through the entire Circuit with only the DC Resistance as the Current's Impedance. This is Circuit Specific! This is unable to occur if Reactance's are in Effect! 

What they are effectively trying to tell you is the following Circuit can be resonant with L1 and C1, but not L2:


This is just out right Ludacris and Foolish! Any Halfling knows one must re-tune the Circuit to find the Frequency of CIRCUIT Resonance! Which will be close to: ω0 = 1 / (√LC) or fr = 1 / (2π (√LC)) Damping Factor ( ζ ) is worth learning more about, where they call instability, is an area of interest:

Ref: Whirl Speed and Stability Analysis


I want to say UFB but don't want to, how about Triple Face Palm!


Do not let yourself be Misled! Know the Facts Only, and disregard any thing other than the Facts!

Best Wishes,



P.S: There is something else they have totally left out, a very important aspect, which I will keep under my hat for the moment, as ammo to further prove them wrong! This is a VERY Important piece to this very SIMPLE puzzle!

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Chris posted this 31 December 2020

My Friends,

I want to point you to a very good, an excellent article, in old ascii, that gives the really pure old school basics on this debate.

I have proven them Wrong, any Year One, or greater, Electrical Engineer, knows this! But, I decided to post more proof as promised! I ask, please read this carefully, it is not as easy to grasp as one might think:

Keep in mind, we are now talking Transmission Lines:



A transmission line is either NONRESONANT or RESONANT. First, let us define the terms nonresonant lines and resonant lines. A nonresonant line is a line that has no standing waves of current and voltage. A resonant line is a line that has standing waves of current and voltage.

Nonresonant Lines

A nonresonant line is either infinitely long or terminated in its characteristic impedance. Since no reflections occur, all the energy traveling down the line is absorbed by the load which terminates the line. Since no standing waves are present, this type of line is sometimes spoken of as a FLAT line. In addition, because the load impedance of such a line is equal to Z0, no special tuning devices are required to effect a maximum power transfer; hence, the line is also called an UNTUNED line.

Resonant Lines

A resonant line has a finite length and is not terminated in its characteristic impedance. Therefore reflections of energy do occur. The load impedance is different from the Z0 of the line; therefore, the input impedance may not be purely resistive but may have reactive components. Tuning devices are used to eliminate the reactance and to bring about maximum power transfer from the source to the line. Therefore, a resonant line is sometimes called a TUNED line. The line also may be used for a resonant or tuned circuit.

A resonant line is sometimes said to be resonant at an applied frequency. This means that at one frequency the line acts as a resonant circuit. It may act either as a high-resistive circuit (parallel resonant) or as a low-resistive circuit (series resonant). The line may be made to act in this manner by either open- or short-circuiting it at the output end and cutting it to some multiple of a quarter-wavelength.

At the points of voltage maxima and minima on a short-circuited or open-circuited line, the line impedance is resistive. On a short-circuited line, each point at an odd number of quarter-wavelengths from the receiving end has a high impedance (figure 3-31, view A). If the frequency of the applied voltage to the line is varied, this impedance decreases as the effective length of the line changes. This variation is exactly the same as the change in the impedance of a parallel-resonant circuit when the applied frequency is varied.

Figure 3-31. - Sending-end impedance of various lengths and terminations.

At all even numbered quarter-wavelength points from the short circuit, the impedance is extremely low. When the frequency of the voltage applied to the line is varied, the impedance at these points increases just as the impedance of a series-resonant circuit varies when the frequency applied to it is changed. The same is true for an open-ended line (figure 3-31, view B) except that the points of high and low impedance are reversed.

At this point let us review some of the characteristics of resonant circuits so we can see how resonant line sections may be used in place of LC circuits.


A PARALLEL-RESONANT circuit has the following characteristics:

  • At resonance the impedance appears as a very high resistance. A loss-free circuit has infinite impedance (an open circuit). Other than at resonance, the impedance decreases rapidly.
  • If the circuit is resonant at a point above the generator frequency (the generator frequency is too low), more current flows through the coil than through the capacitor. This happens because XL decreases with a decrease in frequency but XC increases.

A SERIES-RESONANT circuit has these characteristics:

  • At resonance the impedance appears as a very low resistance. A loss-free circuit has zero impedance (a short circuit). Other than at resonance the impedance increases rapidly.
  • If the circuit is resonant at a point above the generator frequency (the generator frequency is too low), then XC is larger than XL and the circuit acts capacitively.
  • If the circuit is resonant at a point below the generator frequency (the generator frequency is too high), then XL is larger than XC and the circuit acts inductively.

Since the impedance a generator sees at the quarter-wave point in a shorted line is that of a parallel-resonant circuit, a shorted quarter-wave- length of line may be used as a parallel-resonant circuit (figure 3-31, view C). An open quarter-wavelength of line may be used as a series-resonant circuit (view D). The Q of such a resonant line is much greater than can be obtained with lumped capacitance and inductance.

Impedance for Various Lengths of Open Lines

In figure 3-32, the impedance (Z) the generator sees for various lengths of line is shown at the top. The curves above the letters of various heights show the relative value of the impedances presented to the generator for the various line lengths. The circuit symbols indicate the equivalent electrical circuits for the transmission lines at each particular length. The standing waves of voltage and current are shown on each length of line.

Figure 3-32. - Voltage, current, and impedance on open line.

At all odd quarter-wave points (1/4l, 3/4l, etc.), the voltage is minimum, the current is maximum, and the impedance is minimum. Thus, at all odd quarter-wave points, the open-ended transmission line acts as a series-resonant circuit. The impedance is equivalent to a very low resistance, prevented from being zero only by small circuit losses.

At all even quarter-wave points (1/2l, 1l, 3/2l, etc.), the voltage is maximum, the current is minimum, and the impedance is maximum. Comparison of the line with an LC resonant circuit shows that at an even number of quarter-wavelengths, an open line acts as a parallel-resonant circuit. The impedance is therefore an extremely high resistance.

In addition, resonant open lines may also act as nearly pure capacitances or inductances. The illustration shows that an open line less than a quarter-wavelength long acts as a capacitance. Also, it acts as an inductance from 1/4 to 1/2 wavelength, as a capacitance from 1/2 to 3/4 wavelength, and as an inductance from 3/4 to 1 wavelength, etc. A number of open transmission lines, with their equivalent circuits, are shown in the illustration.

Impedance of Various Lengths of Shorted Lines

Follow figure 3-33 as we study the shorted line. At the odd quarter-wavelength points, the voltage is high, the current is low, and the impedance is high. Since these conditions are similar to those found in a parallel-resonant circuit, the shorted transmission line acts as a parallel-resonant circuit at these lengths.

Figure 3-33. - Voltage, current, and impedance on shorted line.

At the even quarter-wave points voltage is minimum, current is maximum, and impedance is minimum. Since these characteristics are similar to those of a series-resonant LC circuit, a shorted transmission line whose length is an even number of quarter-wavelengths acts as a series-resonant circuit.

Resonant shorted lines, like open-end lines, also may act as pure capacitances or inductances. The illustration shows that a shorted line less than 1/4 wavelength long acts as an inductance. A shorted line with a length of from 1/4 to 1/2 wavelength acts as a capacitance. From 1/2 to 3/4 wavelength, the line acts as an inductance; and from 3/4 to 1 wavelength, it acts as a capacitance, and so on. The equivalent circuits of shorted lines of various lengths are shown in the illustration. Thus, properly chosen line segments may be used as parallel-resonant, series-resonant, inductive, or capacitive circuits.



As the good Captain noted and I stated as a requirement, the Length of the Coils and Wires are important!

As stated above, All Power is delivered to the Load, there is No Loss! We have ZERO Electrical Power Reflections! The Circuit is a Tuned Line! There is only One Node and only one Antinode, this is at the Load!

Again, I reference:

At resonance the impedance appears as a very low resistance. A loss-free circuit has zero impedance (a short circuit). Other than at resonance the impedance increases rapidly.


It really, truly, does not get any more simple than this!

What happens in any Transmission Line where the Nodes and Antinodes are at an absolute Minimum?

NOTE: Floyd Sweet does speak about this also!

This article is also good on Transmission Line Resonances: Here

The Fact of the Matter:


Self Running Machines, we have them! Itsu and co, do not!


They are Totally and Utterly Wrong and that's all there is to it! They very clearly have a very Poor Understanding of Power Technologies! If you can understand this Quoted Document, you will see how terribly wrong and In-adequate their Understanding is! They are not qualified to Boil Potatoes! Sorry but true!

It now should be extremely clear how you MUST NOT Allow yourself to be Misled! FACTS Only! Trust no one that is willing to steer you WRONG!

Nothing aggravates me more than others making active attempts to steer others Wrong! This is so very frustrating!

Best Wishes, and Happy New Year!


Vidura posted this 31 December 2020

Very good and simply explained the article. Would be nice if we could organise this kind of information in the resources section. This can be very useful and on spot to improve our devices. Of course it has to been taken in account for Measurements to place the CSR and voltage probe as close as possible to the load, to minimise influence of reactance. Thanks Chris!

Chris posted this 31 December 2020

My Friends,

What is a real shame, is how far behind they are! It is so easy to make a simulation show something you WANT it to show! This is not Science!

What is Reactance? It is an In Line Reflection, Resisting Current Flow, creating a higher Impedance Path! Zero Reactance means No added Impedance to the Path, Current can flow only impeded by the DC Resistance! There is No AC Resistance when XL + -XC = 0!


Remember: There is a difference between Power and Magnetic Field Standing Waves, we:

  1. Don't want Electrical Standing Waves, in the same Wire!
  2. Do want Magnetic Standing Waves! But, in different Wires! One Wire represents the Blue Wave, the other Wire the Red Wave, thus: Partnered Output Coils!


Vidura is right, a Miss-Match, of Frequency vs Line Length, will result in Reactance and thus more Impedance as is already pointed out. The Point is to avoid this Miss-Match, E.G: Maximum Current Amplitude on the Output!

This was pointed out by Floyd Sweet:

Resonance frequencies may be maintained quite constant at high power levels so long as the load remains constant. We are all familiar with AM and FM propagation, where in the case as AM, the voltage amplitude varies, and with FM, the frequency is modulated.

However, the output power sees a constant load impedance, that of the matched antenna system. If this changes, the input to the antenna is mismatched, and standing waves are generated resulting in a loss of power. The frequency is a forced response and remains constant. Power is lost and efficiency becomes less and less, depending on the degree of mismatch.

Ref: Floyd "Sparky" Sweet - Magnetic Resonance


You see now, why we are Light Years Ahead of the other forums!

Best Wishes, and Happy New Year!


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Munny posted this 01 January 2021

Do want Magnetic Standing Waves! But, in different Wires! One Wire represents the Blue Wave, the other Wire the Red Wave, thus: Partnered Output Coils!


I have to reiterate the above statement.  I have known about standing waves for years, but I never made this particular observation or specific consideration.  It has to be magnetic or in the magnetic domain.  An electrical standing wave was always my prior assumption.  The problem is with electrical, you have both the dielectric and magnetic which gives us no advantage dealing with Lenz Law, but if we are dealing only with magnetic, it's a different ball game.  The reason being is impedance, which is basically a real-time application of Ohms Law.  Just imagine for a moment what can be done when you can blank out one of the three variables in Ohms Law--the math becomes completely different.

I'm not sure why I made the assumption that I did, but I suspect I wasn't the only one to do so, which is why I highlighted Chris' statement.  It's another one of those very obscure, but very important distinction we have to be aware of.

Thank you kindly for pointing this out Chris.  I could have easily gone another ten years without picking up on it.

cd_sharp posted this 01 January 2021

Guys, a magnetic standing wave is what happens in Mr Preva experiment.

"It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other" (Steven Mark)

Munny posted this 02 January 2021

Guys, a magnetic standing wave is what happens in Mr Preva experiment.

I have a thought here I'd like to get people's opinion about...


Consider the ferromagnetic material (the core) for a moment and what we know about waves transitioning a medium.  If we have a solid core like a toroid, the magnetic waves will just circulate around and around with superposition being the only real means where a standing wave can form.  There are no reflections because the core material is consistent all the way around.

Conversely, let's look at a split core or open core.

At the "ends" of the core where we transition from a ferromagnetic material to air, we are bound to get magnetic wave reflections.  It's my feeling these magnetic reflections will setup the conditions for standing waves far better than we could ever achieve from a solid core.  My question is then:  Has anyone had success with a solid core?  My gut feeling tells me no way.  The only way to get the kind of standing waves we need is to have magnetic reflections, so the core must be open ended or have some form of air gap, even if it is very tiny.  With reflected magnetic waves creating the standing waves, we would have locations (nodes) about the core where we can precisely position our L2 and L3 coils and maximize our current output.  Captainloz explicitly mentioned moving his coils around to get the best output.  If my thinking here is correct, the reason why becomes rather obvious.


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Chris posted this 02 January 2021

Hello Munny,

Please, do not over complicate this. Please understand, when I say this, I know how easy it is, to over complicate simple things, and that's what I struggled with for some time! I say this only to help!

  • Partnered Output Coils = Magnetic Fields Opposing. 
  • Core = Magnetic Field Containment and Directing/Focusing.
  • Core Gap, sometimes required.
  • Coils = Ideal Path for Current Flow = Waveguide! Tuned medium for a Wave of Current to Propagate!


The Electric "Generator" or Dynamo is the best Analogy for what is occurring here!


One Partnered Output Coil being the Stator Coil! The other Partnered Output Coil being the Rotor Coil! The Input Coil being the Simulation of Shaft Rotation! Like Figuera said:

Watching closely what happens in a Dynamo in motion...


when the induced is approaching the center of another electromagnet with opposite sign to the first one.


If you fully understand what's occurring here, we can use Asymmetry, to make this System Work with excess Gains!

Best Wishes,


Chris posted this 09 January 2021

My Friends,

They are still scrambling, even going as far as using red highlighted text, its beyond a joke!

While they may have a chuckle at the odd comment made here, we are Laughing Out Loud at their inability to grasp a bigger picture!

Itsu now admits he got some of his work wrong and has at least publically explained this to be so!

Taking readings, on an In Circuit Element, Out Of Circuit, and assuming it behaves the same, in and out of the Circuit, is a Massive Mistake! This is TOTALLY FOOLISH and they should know better!

They still do not understand Resonance of a Transmission Line! 


If 10 Miles of Transmission line has no Reactance at Resonance, do you think 150 Millimeters ( mm ) of Transmission line has no Reactance also, at Resonance?

Ref: Terminating a Transmission Line


You can see: Z = R, this means, there is No Reactance and R is only the DC Resistance. The Minimum Impedance is the DC Resistance R. This simple tech, very simple tech, they are entirely oblivious to!



Resonance frequencies may be maintained quite constant at high power levels so long as the load remains constant. We are all familiar with AM and FM propagation, where in the case as AM, the voltage amplitude varies, and with FM, the frequency is modulated.

However, the output power sees a constant load impedance, that of the matched antenna system. If this changes, the input to the antenna is mismatched, and standing waves are generated resulting in a loss of power.

The frequency is a forced response and remains constant. Power is lost and efficiency becomes less and less, depending on the degree of mismatch.

Ref: Magnetic Resonance - By Floyd A. Sweet. Ph.D.


It is a real shame, they do not know about basic Transmission Line Impedance at Resonance! They truly are showing how wrong they really are!

This Intellectual Handicap shows why We are Light Years Ahead of the other Forums! It is funny, beyond description to watch!

Best Wishes,


Chris posted this 10 January 2021

My Friends,

This is their proof:

Ref: Itsu's workbench / placeholder.


Can anyone see anything that ISN'T a MASSIVE ERROR here?

What have they missed: Everything!



Well, this proves it beyond a doubt, they are not, in any way, out to prove a device works!

They are out to falsify data, to suitably prove, to them ONLY,  it doesn't:



This circuit, in no way, even remotely, resembles what we have been sharing! Nothing in this circuit remotely resembles a Resonant Transmission Line! Entirely missed all requirements!

This is like saying: I am going to build a Space Rocket out of my box of Raisins and fly to the moon!



We have exposed them, now all readers know what they are about! All readers know, can see, we have proved beyond a shadow of a doubt, they have:

Nothing, Nada, Zip, Zilch!


How terribly embarrassing for them, this has to be one of their biggest mistakes ever! What ever happened to Professional Circuit Analysis?

From Itsu's own mouth:


Do you see what I mean by this now:


See what we have been up against for so long?

My Friends, trust Facts Only! Facts will not steer you wrong! Ever! Never trust Fake News! Learn to spot Fake News, if you have not already, it is a very useful ability to have!

Best Wishes,


Jagau posted this 10 January 2021

Hello Chris

I have no doubts in choosing a 0.1 CSR for the captloz experiment.
All the criteria have been observed with the standards of the company Dale which makes them the specifications with very high proven technologies.

Engineers and very knowledgeable people use this resistance model every day and that is why Dale sells it.
In addition, another characteristic which should not be neglected is the thermal coefficient of this type of resistance which greatly affects their value if certain conditions of use are not respected. This is why we must not exceed a certain power.
Forget those who do not understand here we have understood well, that's why we are not here to misinform but to learn new technologies with a desire to learn while letting others make mistakes and then better understand what that they did not understand

Chris posted this 4 weeks ago

My Friends,

I want to bump this thread again, really to rub it in our foes faces, on the other side, the Dark Side! To say some of them are Simple is an understatement!


The good Captain did an excellent job, we have the same results and we have the absolute best Measurement Protocols on the entire Internet! They tried to fault our Protocols, but failed miserably!

Anyone up for a Free Energy Machine? Its extremely simple!

Yup, We got the Power!

Don't forget, Fighter's ZPM is another example of our Free Energy, Above Unity Machines! Bucking Coils is the only real path to good energy gains!

Just read, watch, and learn what the Good Captain has learnt, and you're off to the races! Simple and Cheap!

Best Wishes,


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