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Andreas posted this 10 February 2022

Hello,

I am new on this forum, I do researches for free energy devices since about 10 years. I learned much about physical basics but was not yet able to produce energy efficiencies over 100%.

In the last weeks I reed much about bucking coils, the threads here, the very interesting experiments shown, but I am a little confused. It is in my opinion, very essential to understand the basics first, before you heat up the soldering bar. So the same seems to be true for bucking coils:

It should make no matter, if you take a transformer priciple or not, or if there are some diodes, capacitors and so on. In my understanding, the key to success is the bucking mode of two coils, canceling out each others magnetic fields. Some people pointed out, it is the magnetic delay, which makes it possible to draw enery from the vacuum. The coils need distance to each other. When current flows thru the opposing coils, the moving charges (current) first seeing two single coils in series. The inductance is relatively high (L1 + L2). The two single magnetic fields of the coils are moving toward the other coil to cancel out each other. This should be the magic moment. The series inductance of the two coils falls significantly, the current rises. This current rise should be awaited by conventional rules of physics. According to this rules, only the power supply  should deliver this current. It is said, that this current will rise more then expected, when the bucking mode is correct. The next step is to turn off the current. The magnetic field in the core is relatively low, because the two magnetic fields cancel each other. Anyway, we still have relativly high current (caused by bucking, magic effect), so we have a magnetic field in each coil, which is decreasing with decreasing current, Voltage is induced due to Lenz Law. This two decreasing magnetic fields are traveling in the core towards each other. This should increase the flowing current, the magic moment should occur again.

With this things in mind, we can try to proof it. In my opinion we can reduce the problem by focussing on three questions:

  1. How strong should be the coupling of the two coils?
  2. How far must be the distance between the coils?
  3. How many current must we use and is it useful to go toward or even beyond the saturation of the core?

A supplier company for magnetic cores has given me 13 kg of transformer iron for toroid cores for free, useless rests for them. So I want to try it. The first goal should be the answer to this questions. With this answers, every electronics freak should easily be able to build a simple power generator. Sure, many of you did more or less sucessful experiments with this stuff, great respect for it. But by solving this questions first, the things will become clear. Every well educated person then should be able to understand existing schematics or be able to construct his own solution.

My own answers to this question in this moment are:

  1. The coupling should be as strong as possible, because then the reduction of inductivity is very high.
  2. First I thought it must be as far as possible (13kg iron).. Later I read a document on this forum, which speaks about 5cm for air cores. Sorry, I dont remember where I found the link to the PDF. If the 5cm is correct for air, I would expect a little shorter distance in iron, because the magnetic wave in iron should travel in less then light speed.
  3. I believe, the higher the current, the more "magic" occurs. But saturation mode of the core should be tested in this relation.

I would be interested in information about this topics. Then I want to build a generator. Maybe the answers already exists, then I can save the time and material for those tests. I am always happy to share expiriences made, with people who work on the same "strange" stuff.

Best Regards to the other fighters for a better world,

Andreas

 

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Melendor posted this 10 February 2022

Hello,

I am new on this forum, I do researches for free energy devices since about 10 years. I learned much about physical basics but was not yet able to produce energy efficiencies over 100%.

 

Best Regards to the other fighters for a better world,


Hello Andreas and welcome to the forum.
You will find lots of information here and many of the answers you seek.

There is an experiment called "" Mr.Preva Experiment ""

You have 2 coils ,on a small toroid , and at Resonance , at some point in time , the current in one coil will flow in the opposite direction , to the current in the other coil.
We call this current 180 degrees out of phase , or magnetic resonance.

Before you start with 13 kg of core material , I would highly suggest that you try to bring the currents to oppose in an inexpensive Mr Preva experiment.

You will need  1 x OSciloscope and 2 X Non inductive 0.1 Ohm resistors.

If the resistors are inductive, they will bring some noise on your Scope trace.

I wish you best of luck.

~~~Melendor the Wizard.

Chris posted this 11 February 2022

Hello and Welcome Andreas!

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You are right, your Post mostly contains the right approach!

Voltage is Separated, One Terminal has Greater number of Elementary Charges, than the other, and Current is Pumped! Of course, this is the purpose of Bucking Coils, or Partnered Output Coils!

So, you have a very good understanding thus far, almost an uncanny understanding...

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Andreas posted this 11 February 2022

Hello Melendor,

Hello Chris,

Thank you for your warm welcome. about 10 years ago, I was about to build a new kind of bycycle- motor. The back wheel itself should be the motor. It worked, but it was not very successfull. By doing this construction, I found infos about Bedinis work. From this on, my interest went toward this stuff, because commercial bycycle motors were invented and a still running trend. So, my new hobby was the research for free energy- devices. I build many battery pulsers (solid state) and earned good charging results with COP 0.8 - 1.0. High voltage experiments with Tesla Coils and pancace Tesla Coils. Before I found Chris's and others work on bucking coils, I experimented with a self build Rodin- Coil. The toroidal shape of the magnetic and electric fields leeds to the bucking coil, because of the "bloch wall". Unfortunally the pulsed rodin- coil transformer delivered no overunity. It seems, the impedances and therefore especially the resonances must fit perfectly, to perform well.

The Mr. Preva Experiment looks very promising for me. I will take a small iron core and want to test this assymetrical configuration, instead of a simple bucking coiled pulser. Yes, I tried it already, a 1:1 bucking coil with a distance of about 10 cm on a toroid- core. I pulsed both coils in series with short pulses and grabbed the back pulse from cutting the current over a diode to a load. It performed very bad, but there was a thing, not normal: the higher the current was (longer pulses), the more COP I got - but always below 0.8. This observation and your outstanding work convinces me, to be on the right path.The losses should rise in squares, because of I^2 * R... but it has dropped a little...

Don't be afraid, I will not waste my iron, first I test with small cores. I am always happy to share such work with people, really interested. Thank you for the many suggestions. You are right, current measurement must be done with resistors via voltage with an oscilloscope. My first COP calculation was more then 3 for a configuration - I used a digital ampere- meter (multimeter) and for the output current a coiled classical ampere- meter. Both were wrong.

I'am happy, that I found your forum.

Kind Regards,

Andreas

 

 

 

 

 

Andreas posted this 14 April 2022

Some Thoughts after some experiments:

the last weeks, I tried the Mr. Preva Experiment, without OU. Then I build a big toroidal iron core with eight coils. The distance between the coils is about 5cm toward the next. One coil is clockwise wound, belonging to the core, the next counterclockwise and so on. A Royer oszillator produces a sinus- shaped current. This current flows thru the partnered output coils and a load. I tried a wide range of frequenzes, but - nothing: 100% in, about 50% out...

But, Chris, you should be right. The problem is to get a usable voltage over the partnered coils, when the current rises or falls. In another thread you suggested to use some voltage protection diodes, to produce a time delay in the current - voltage relation. Here is another idea:

The partnered output coils could do the job alone. We have two inductances on one core. Each coil hast the same induction as the other: L1 = L2. So we put both on the same core, electrically in series, magnetical bucking. We get the over all Inductance of this series circuit L(12). My coil has L1=2mH = L2. L(12) is 0.08mH. Now I use the coil L(12) and load it with a current. The coil L(12) is loaded with energy E = 1/2 L(12) * I^2. When we shoot off the current, we get back this energy. In my experiment I took this back- EMF out with a Schottky diode and powered loads as resistors, light bulbs and lead- batteries. This back- EMF produces very high currents oscillating, in the partnered coils with frequences of about 25 MHz. Forward oscillating goes into the load, backwards it goes to the voltage- source via the internal Mosfet- diode. The results were delighting: Cop of about 90%.

Now I will build a new pulser, which is always powering the load. In my above description I only used the Back- EMF. Now I will additionally power the load during switching on the current.  When I switch on the current, I get a voltage against my supplying voltage, which is very much higher then the supply voltage. It comes as a sharp peak at the beginning. After that peaks (oszillating) , the current rises as expected in a 0.08mH coil. The benefit of this configuration is, that the partnered output coils produce the flowing current and voltage in the same direction, at the same time and very strong, but very short...Now I have to make the impedances fitting, with this all done OU could be possible.

I hope this experiences and thougts could give some ideas for simple OU- configuations with partnered output coils, powering themselves through L(12) charging. Thank you Chris for sharing of your experiments. It is essential to understand the basics, before success, your videos are very helpful here. My problem is, when I use a L3 for triggering the output coils, it is easy to get a strong changing magnetic field in the core, but the voltages in the output coils are always in opposite directions against each other. All tries to make it "asymmetrical" are a little bit difficult, because of the principle: A changing field induces opposed voltages in opposed coils. I am very intersted in opinions on this.

Best Regards,

Andreas

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Andreas posted this 14 April 2022

This will produce sharp pulses in the load. The IRF 840  500V is only experimental. The on resistance should be 0.85 / 4 Ohm. Maybe it is possible to us one IRF 3205 for example, with an on resistance of about 20mOhm,  55V only. I suggest to prefer low impedance, maybe a conventional transformer as the load, powering RL, if wanted or / and neccessary. Impedance matching seems to be very important, With low on resistances, very high cops, nearly 1 should be possible. Even without any "bucking effect" of L(12) in series. The goal is, to bring the coils L1 and L2 to produce flowing current in the same direction. Because in the switching moment the volage comes in series, in the same direction, supporting the current. A very strong current in "Bucking Mode" can flow throu the Coils and will hopefully produce a stong current amplifying effect.

A simple pulser for coils

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