Clemente Figuera

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Wistiti posted this 09 January 2018

 

 


Hi guys!


In the past I play a bit with the Figuera concept. It use the POC as we already know the potential. I think this guy, Marathonman, understand the principe behind the Figuera device...

 

Chris, if there already a tread about Clemente Figuera, feel free to move this at the good place!

 

 

 

 

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Chris posted this 09 January 2018

Hey Wistiti, Sweet Thread! 

The News Articles that we have on Clemente Figuera, and his device, tell all about the device, and yes Marathonman has it entirely Correct! This we have covered for a long time also.

Figuera says, very clearly, he sold the patents to the Bankers, so we must not trust the Patents!

 

Telegrama / Telegram Figuera 1902.

As we know, experiment proves truth, dis-proves lies, we already know much of what is said in the Patents is not true, sorry Hannon, but Experiment On the Bench does not support the Bankers falsified Documents.

What Experiment On the Bench does support however, is what Figuera said in the early News Articles. A source that is hard for the Bankers to change...

Thanks for sharing Wistiti, Figurea is one of my favourites, a great man that only now, more than 100 years later, is getting credit for his work!

   Chris

 

P.S: My favourite resource: http://alpoma.net/tecob/?page_id=8258

Chris posted this 09 January 2018

I think it should be noted, and is very important, all the research done and data gathered is important for the Historical Record!

It is up to the reader of the information to Prove or Disprove the information contained!

It is very easy to Prove or Disprove! A very simple Experiment like The Mr Preva Experiment can shed a lot of light on these devices!

In saying this, the words used by Clemente Figuera, forgetting all else, the words used, are critical:

  • induced
  • inductor
  • magnet
  • electromagnets
  • turns
  • variation
  • field
  • traversing
  • voltage
  • current - 37 times second to top, The top word in this document is Figuera at 42 times.
  • dynamos

All these key words, are critical to only one thing: 

Electromagnetic Induction

It is even said, by Clemente Figuera himself:

This principle is not new since it is just a consequence of the laws of induction stated by Faraday in the year 1831: what it is new and requested to privilege is the application of this principle to a machine which produces large industrial electrical currents which until now cannot be obtained but transforming mechanical work into electricity.

PATENT by CLEMENTE FIGUERA (year 1908) No. 44267 (Spain)

   Chris

 

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Chris posted this 10 January 2018

 

How many Coils does Clemente Figuera Use?

 

How many Coils does Melvin Cobb Use?

 

How many Coils does Alexander Frolov's Phi Transformer Use?

 

How many Coils does Don Smith Use?

 

How many Coils does Floyd Sweet Use?

Divide by Two and exclude EX1 and 2 because they are Dive Coils.

  • P1 = 2 + FB1 = 3 Coils
  • P2 = 2 + FB2 = 3 Coils

EX1 and EX2 are Drive Coils, for Feed Back, or Feed Forward, depending on how you want to look at it,  giving a Time Constant via an Induced E.M.F from the two Power Coils Opposing Fields squeezing out the side through the EX Coils.

Turns Ratios and the Wavelengths used are important, we know this already.

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Marathonman posted this 10 January 2018

Thank you Wistiti and Chris for your kind words. i had or tried to post a very informative post but when i tried to post it said i had to relog on thus my entire post disappeared  so ill keep it short this time.

the first pic you have on your last post was a failed attempt from Wonju and that core orientation will not work in the Figuera device. i will slowly reveal all about this device as we move along as to not overwhelm or leave people behind as my sole intention is to get this device to the world and not be like other so called free energy people selling lousy books and trinkets that do nothing but be a good paper weight.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 10 January 2018

I also would like to point out that the banksters really did not touch the patent as such because Figuera wrote a slightly cryptic patent so i guess they left it a lone. most people can't even get past part G because they are associating the pic to the device when in reality the pic is just part G in it's very, very basic form just for understanding purposes and one needs to think out side of the box and of that time period.

there are basically only two ways to control currant, one is through resistance which is very, very wasteful and the other is through a magnetic field. a lost art that was used at the turn of the century using a magnetic field to control currant flow. what Figuera did was split the feed into two and controlled both separately using an inductor and a rotating brush. as the positive brush rotated the currant running through the primaries to part G caused a north magnetic fields at the brush from both feeds. having two north faced opposing fields allowed them to stay completely separate while varying the currant of both in complete unison dynamically. as the brush rotated the amount of winding's changed magnetically linking to the system thus varying the amount of magnetic field opposing the original currant flow.

and this my new friends is how Figuera did it.

 

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 10 January 2018

In a standard Generator we have almost the same thing happening as in the Figuera device except of course the Figuera device main section that does the generating does not move. in a standard geny part of the output is used to excite and create a magnetic field then the rotor rotates through these fields creating currant. the amount of power used to excite this field is ONLY a few percent of the output so why in hell can't a geny be overunity.  well it has to do with the cogging effect, as the rotor passes the stator polls it tends to not want to let go. the attraction is so intense that it takes massive power to overcome this attractive force and destroys any chance of being OU. using 125 % power to get 50 % power is not only crazy but only benefits the rich oil barrons and rapes the environment 

Figuera on the other hand figured out that he could do the same thing by just moving the weightless, massless field back and fourth totally eliminating the cogging effect entirely.

did you hear what i said  (THE WEIGHTLESS,  MASSLESS FIELD)  that takes a minute amount of power to move back and fourth thus rendering those smog farting, environment and people killing machines OBSOLETE.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 10 January 2018

my next video will include the primary and secondary relationship thus the cause of coherency between the primaries and secondaries. If the Primary fields are not coherent (In Unison) the total energy in the region is the sum of the energies of the one field, i.e., the increasing electromagnet. if coherency is maintained the square of the field intensity of each electromagnet combined is integrated over the region of space occupied by the secondary, thus the total energy is the square of twice the field intensity integrated over the region, or twice the energy of the two fields incoherent!. so basically that's twice the field intensity squared compared to regular bucking coil fields.

Marathonman

Chris posted this 10 January 2018

Hello and Welcome Marathonman!

I agree with your posts, that last one in particular, speaks volumes...

The field energy is proportional to the square of the amplitude of the total electromagnetic field. As a result, the simple addition of the energy fields of the total field can be many times the energy of the initial fields separately. This property of the electromagnetic field is non-additivity of the energy field. For example, when added to a stack of three flat circular permanent magnet energy of the total magnetic field is increased to nine times! A similar process occurs with the addition of electromagnetic waves in the feeder lines and resonance systems. Total energy of a standing electromagnetic wave can be many times greater than the energy of waves and the electromagnetic field to add. As a result, the total energy of the system increases. The process is described by the simple formula of energy field

Andrey Melnichenko - Transgeneratsiya electromagnetic field energy

 And

The underlying principal (forget Millikan’s experiment) has been derived in that magnetic effects vary on the square of the current. As the load on the machine increases, the volt-ampere product increases. The rate of flow of charges increases.

Floyd "Sparky" Sweet - The Space-Flux Coupled Alternator

We have an experiment here we, well I refer to all the time, The Mr Preva Experiment, this proves exactly this. It is undeniable and only Fools try to dispute it.

You are right in what you say, I have found the same things, spending many years gluing a long trail of references and data to support my findings!

Simply, hard provable data can not be disputed by any sane mind!

Welcome!

   Chris

Marathonman posted this 10 January 2018

I have been just posting randomly so to get a better understanding of the device i will start at the beginning.

Marathonman's Synopsis of the Figuera device

After three years of constant study, research and on hand experience, i have concluded that the Figuera device operates in said capacity according to the 1908 patent and the following is my interpretation of said free energy device.

in the patents it can be seen how ingeniously and by mechanical methods, how the engineer tried to generate electrical energy inside a coil by varying the flow of two opposite and opposing magnetic fields, trying to get into the machine the same characteristic behavior of a conventional generator, but without moving part.

In a standard generator we have what is termed a quadrature. the incline and decline of the north magnet and the incline and decline of the south magnet. also we have what is termed "the cogging effect". the cogging effect is where the rotor passes the stator electromagnet and upon passing the electromagnet an extreme attraction force wants to pull the rotor back in to register (alignment) causing the motor to bog down from the heavy load of the attractive force. this extreme force from present day generators has been the same since the days of Praxii in France and has not changed. thus we are left with a system that is completely crippled from the cogging effect and inefficient beyond belief. the amount of fuel used in this type of system is staggering and certainly benefits only the Oil Companies and tax hungry Governments.

in the Figuera device both electromagnet accounts for only 1/4 of a quadrature but with no cogging effect what so ever since the device is stationary and no moving parts. thus allowing the 1/4 quadrature to be much more efficient in terms of power usage (input) verses power output. since the cogging effect has been removed the amount of power that was wasted on rotation is now available to the system for use to power it's electromagnets and rotating brush motor which amounts to very little leaving a system that is so efficient it powers it self and the load indefinitely. once the system is started with an external power supply, it can be removed and the system remains running with no noise, lubrication, pollution or waste products to deal with. the implication of such a device is utterly mind boggling and a game changer to the average human. allowing each and every human to grow their own food 24/7 365 days a year, pump their own water, power their own home and personal vehicles. thus changing the very evolution of the human race advancing toward a more productive, peaceful, harmonistic society riding the powerful elite of their choke hold on the human race through control.

My further understanding is that through my research a setup with two bar magnets facing each other separated by a nonmagnetic bar glued between both like pole faces to keep them separated by a fixed distance and a stationary loop with an attached galvanometer. if the magnets are moved back and forth, the galvanometer will move back and forth with twice the deflection magnitude as that of a single magnet moved at the same rate. proven by Michael Faraday, James Clerk Maxwell and William J Hopper and others.

What is the Figuera device.

The Figuera device consist of a complimentary set of primary opposing electromagnets (Set N and Set S) between them resides an output coil/core (Y) governed by a controller part "G" that varies the currant allowed through the the primary electromagnets.

the primary electromagnets are varied in currant in unison, one taken high, the other taken low, just enough to clear the secondary then reversed. in the said action a unique condition takes place in the area the secondary output coil resides in causing the condition known as a Motional Electric Field. as both primaries are occupying the same relative space in space, we have a set of conditions where both B fields (Magnetic fields) are opposing one another therefore effectively canceling each other out. in this unique condition, both fields are effectively equal zero but the electric fields of both electromagnets remain intact therefore doubling the effective E field compared to one electromagnet alone thus the square of the both. 

 by using a DC source through part G, the original source is effectively split into to two separate feeds allowing the primary electromagnets to be varied separately in unison allowing the cancellation of B fields and the additive E fields to remain to be collected by the secondary, a condition known as a pure BV field. the secondary according to the patent is "properly placed" in this area that is effectively zero B field zone but where the Electric field is actively present and doubled in strength.

Superimposed magnetic flux from the two sets of electromagnets (Set N and Set S) consists of one electromagnet with left to right spin taken high, and one electromagnet with right to left spin taken low in unison. thus we have a unique condition in the space surrounding the secondary: the resultant magnetic flux, due to superposition of fields, is zero; and the resultant motional electric field intensity is E = B1 x V1 + (-B1) x (-V2) = 2B1 x V1, or E2, double the intensity attributable to one electromagnet alone, where B1 is the magnetic flux due to the electromagnets and V1, the electron drift velocity in, say, the in and out direction. although the magnetic flux energy in the device is reduced to zero, the electromagnetic induction giving rise to what we term the "motional electric field" has by no means been canceled nor reduced in any way as both are positive and additive. this is and have been verified by William J Hooper and others.

another unique condition of the opposing primary electromagnets is that while one electromagnet is taken high, the other is taken low but in doing so in it's receding action, the rising electromagnet basically shoves the receding electromagnet out of the secondary core into it's own core from where it's magnetic field was born. this action causes a considerable amount of magnetic flux to be confined in the said core thus allowing the magnetic energy to be shoved out the back of the receding electromagnet into part G to be stored in a magnetic field for later use therefore feeding it's self every half turn of part G. if the receding electromagnet is taken down to far or the primary electromagnets are not in complete unison the pressure between them will cease and induction will fall low to the output of the peak of the rising electromagnet.

Part G

After much research into the origin and function of part G, i was able to narrow, with the help of a colleague, the origin, device and manufacturer of the part G device to Germany and Zeiss or Otto as the manufacturer. both companies produced precision variac of the highest quality and were the go to companies for quality workmanship. more then likely it was Zeiss as the dates and events are to easily lined up. one little known fact is that DC can be used through a Variac and produce similar effects of currant restriction through variation with a twist of a knob. Figuera on the other hand chose to have the core wound with one continuous wind, one end to Set N and the other to Set S all while varying the currant through the rotating brush making contact with two winding's at a time in a make before break scenario to avoid currant disruption to the primary electromagnets. this action would be detrimental to the function of the device if b emf were allowed to take place as all induction would cease and power production would come to a halt.

part G is a magnetic resistance device rarely used in today's modern world, a forgotten relic in a world of silicon ic's that can be had in any style, shape or form. part G is unique as it splits one DC feed into two separate independent feeds. this feat is accomplished through two opposing fields as the currant enters part G through it's winding's causing two opposing north magnetic fields. these two magnetic fields restrict the amount of saturation of the core restricting currant flow and through self inductance or rather dynamic self inductance (magnetics).

part G is connected to the primary electromagnets to allow the inductive kick back from the receding electromagnet to be stored in it's core every half turn of the rotating brush, thus allowing the stored magnetic field to be converted into currant feeding the primaries as the brush rotates. this action of part G is similar in action of an inductor allowing energy to be stored and used. as the brush rotates so does the magnetic field. when constructing the device a second secondary can be wound on the output core allowing said secondary to be used for the sole purpose of powering the device to replace losses occurred through heat and wire loss, which accounts for very little aiding the inductive kickback from the declining electromagnet allowing the device to be self sustaining. once this device is started with an external power supply, the supply can be removed and the device will run indefinitely powering what ever you so choose.

Suppression

scientist's of our present day say that free energy is "impossible" yet their are over 10,000 free energy device patents in the united states and over 40,000 globally, most of which were illegally seized by the patent office under the guise "of national security". funny thing is the US patent office is not even part of the US Government ( independently owned and operated) yet they are continuously allowed to do so, steeling average citizens free energy patent. the suppression of free energy is coming to an end as all through out the world are becoming aware of the ability to self sustain. Maxwell and Faraday proved with out a doubt, that free energy is possible. if this was not so then why did J. P. Morgan, a rich banker, spend million trying to hide the fee energy equations through Heaviside, Lorentz and possibly Einstein through bribe monies. J. P. Morgan even went so far as to pull school books and had them changed and put back into circulation. he was also responsible for the suppression of the most gifted person of our time, yours truly Nicola Tesla. reducing him to the point of feeding pigeons for the remainder of his life. if perpetual motion is not viable, then apparently Figuera and our Universe did not get the memo, wouldn't that be awkward if the world stop spinning tomorrow.

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Chris posted this 10 January 2018

@Marathonman - Are you aware of the very old devices called Mag-Amps, Saturable Reactors and the like?

 

“Now I'm going to say something I should not. Floyd Sweet was privileged to work with the  Germans after WW2. He pulled this trick on me with the VTA except I caught him and was  booted out he only made it look like he condition the magnets . The Germans already had  developed, kept away from the people rotating mag amps and Sweet worked on them. ( He  was an electromagnetic expert in this field) It was funny to me when I would go over to  Sweet's place with the coils I wound for him and when I would leave it would be working the  next day. I asked him to remove the 100 watt power Amplifier and he refused so I left then  was asked to never return by Tom Bearden, Tom did not know as I never told him. Tom even  brought one over to me to test away from Floyd's house where it was working before Tom  left to have it tested. Floyd went nuts when Tom told him he was testing this at my shop. It  did not work. So whatever GE had knowledge of , Floyd knew How, but I can make this  machine work either way.”

...

“That is why nobody can make it, Sweet device also Magnetic Amplifier.”

John Bedini

 I was never able to confirm any of this. But back in those days it was how they did things. So its hard to say.

We are growing stronger every day, with every new member, we are working as a team and we are moving forward all the time. Our Collective Will makes us in stoppable! We are already making a difference!

We work for the next Generation, making the difference the last Generation should have, but only few did.

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Marathonman posted this 10 January 2018

Yes i am, i have done extensive research into mag amps. in the old days they were called reactors. why do you think i know so much about part G and it's operation thus the connection to Ziess who made part G.

using mag amp control is indestructible and can not be downed by emp blast if used in a plane, boat or car.

Marathonman

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Marathonman posted this 10 January 2018

To whom are you directing this question to?

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dummyload posted this 10 January 2018

I was offline for a little bit, so I hadn't seen the reply from Chris when I posted. I just deleted my post. It just seemed that the mag amp or DC Variac described had a special construction.

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Marathonman posted this 10 January 2018

It's all about the control of saturation in mag amps. i can take 12 volts and control any kind of voltage and currant i want.

in the figuera device part G is basically the same thing with a twist.

Marathonman

Chris posted this 10 January 2018

I was offline for a little bit, so I hadn't seen the reply from Chris when I posted. I just deleted my post. It just seemed that the mag amp or DC Variac described had a special construction.

Hey Dummyload - I may have been late to reply, sorry, I have been really busy lately. got a side project and its taking a lot of time.

GE built what's called an Amplidyne, it is a Rotating Magnetic Amplifier. I do not know if this was what Floyd may have worked on, but it fits the description given by JB.

One has to ask the question, why would GE put a "Generator" on the end of a Motor? It clearly served a purpose, especially on the gun mount control system in the Military.

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Chris posted this 10 January 2018

in the figuera device part G is basically the same thing with a twist.

Marathonman

Agreed, it is, the Twist is Electromagnetic Induction, we are Amplifying Voltage and Current in excess of Unity, and above! Charge is Separated, Conduction Improves, which in turn Resistance drops, because Conduction = 1 / Resistance.

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Marathonman posted this 10 January 2018

 it was a motor generator combination used to control gun turrets and heavy industrial equipment.

Quote;

To convert a generator to an amplidyne, what would normally be the load brushes are connected together and the output is taken from another set of brushes that are parallel with the field. The perpendicular brushes are now called the 'quadrature' brushes. This simple change can increase the gain by a factor of 10,000 or more.

it also says Ward Leonard has something similar but i already knew this from my studies of Ward Leonard but what has always amazed me was why did this tech get passed by.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 10 January 2018

I really don't look at it quite like that. i don't see charge separation, negative or positive anywhere in our universe. what i see is pressure gradients of highs and lows pulsing in and out, reaction and reaction in a wave type motion.

in my mind electricity is pressures of high and low not positive and negative so the Figuera device is a pressure pump. as pressure always tries to equalize the Figuera device keeps the pressure out of balance seeking equilibrium  and is in a constant state of.  or as another view in a constant state of charge and discharge.

the Tesla AC to DC patent is such a device that allows the pressure to travel only one way being blocked by a magnetic field the other direction.

Marathonman

Chris posted this 10 January 2018

I agree, it is a Pressure, it is T.H. Moray's "Pump":

Electricity is not made by the generator, it is merely pumped. From that standpoint, an electric generator might be referred to as an electric pump and the Moray radiant energy device as a high-speed electron oscillating device.

T. H. Moray - The Sea of Energy in which the Earth floats

 There is beauty in Logic. A Jet Engine, Air Pressure, a Turbo is the same. This video of mine, Stress is a Pressure:

 

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Marathonman posted this 11 January 2018

Every atom collects it's energy from the Zero point energy field NOT from mater. mater has no energy it self other than what is supplied from the energy field. it does not exist until it is brought into existence from that said field. and i believe EVERY word from Nicola Tesla as he WAS THE MASTER. i may not understand it all but i have a fairly good grasp on things. we as all mater that is living has a common connection and thus are naturally connected through the energy grid that functions as a two way highway of information and energy connected through God.

yes i believe the Anunnaki created us as the information and evidence is way to over whelming to not consider. we have been lied to for 6,000 years and those bastards are still trying to lie to us. we were created as slaves but i refuse to be a slave any longer, that is why i need to get the Figuera device out there to the people who deserve it.

i am a man of my word and live by my word and you people will get the information in my head if it kills me or they kill me first.

Marathonman

Chris posted this 11 January 2018

Hahaha Nicely worded - We feel the same way Marathonman! I assure you!

For the sake of Science and the way Science has discovered Nature and all of the Great Scientists that have contributed to Science, I follow Science and do Science, but Experiment is what guides my beliefs. Not the Dogma of bad Scientists! Which is NOT Science!

As all Great Scientists have, even the Great Nikola Tesla, worked with the Fundamental concepts of Electrical Energy, as this is my focal point. This being Voltage and Current, the quantities we Measure and observe.

I have my own views on how these particles have managed to stay in existence for as long as they have. I have chosen to stay largely silent on the underlying concepts, simply because I do not wish to confuse people.

I want to stay on target and leave out all unnecessary complications, at least where possible.

That's just the way I want to go with my work. Any following my work, and the progress I have had in the study of Floyd Sweet and my side projects that relate and correlate to Floyds Sweets work, can then follow the same Concepts laid out in Science, a Standardised View Point that is well documented.

I need not re-invent the wheel, only tighten a few spokes...

The reason I say this here, is, this is how Clemente Figuera also approached his work. As many Greats did following Figuera.

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Marathonman posted this 11 January 2018

So the basic concept of the FIguera device is this.

two primaries facing each other being opposing north face electromagnet one increasing one decreasing. the decreasing electromagnet will catch the back side of the spin as it is retreating causing the E Field to be in the same direction as the increasing electromagnet. either electromagnet is only taken down 1/3 to 1/2 just enough to clear the secondary the back again to the other side as it is increased. in this process the secondary being between them connected to a load, currant will begin to flow producing an opposing field to the currant flow so what we end up having is similar to that of a squirrel cage motor. the primaries cause the initial induction in the secondary but as the currant starts to flow in the secondary and load it created a second field opposite to the first ie... lenz law. is it this field that is shoved from side to side in the secondary from the primaries. what we end up having is  N>N<N with the secondary field in between and is easily moved from side to side with very little effort.  moving the weightless, massless field which is much easier than a massive hunk of iron in regular generators.

 

as the currant flows through part G we have a set of conditions that control the currant flow. since we have a brush rotating around the cylinder the amount of winding's change as the brush is rotated thus we are changing the amount of winding's magnetically linking to the circuit thus changing the opposing magnetic field that opposes the original currant flow through the circuit. since currant is flowing in two direction we have a north north opposing fields at the positive brush that keeps both sides of the inductor separate allowing complete unison as the brush rotates.

 

as the brush rotates to one side the reducing side magnetic field is reducing releasing energy back into the system and at that same time as the low primary is shoved out of the secondary into it's own core a high pressure is built up in that core and is shoved into part G feeding the high primary. this sequence of events happen every half rotation of the brush thus we have an orderly rise and fall of currant through the primaries.

 

you could say that part G is a duel dynamic inductor that is basically a pressure regulator regulating the currant flow through the primaries with two independent sides that act like short term batteries charging and discharging every half rotation all while varying the currant.

the larger the magnetic field the more drag on the original flow of currant. in the regular teaching of an inductor they only teach you that a change in currant causes more or less opposition to currant flow. what they never say is the reverse is also true by changing the conditions of the circuit ie.. winding's and core length (magnetically linking) you can also control the currant flow and this you will never find in ANY University around the world.

 

Marathonman

Zanzal posted this 11 January 2018

i am a man of my word and live by my word and you people will get the information in my head if it kills me or they kill me first.

No worries man. As of this year (((they))) don't have the influence they once had. Also I don't think they kill people for knowing about FE or how to build FE devices. Though I am fairly certain they killed people who tried to upset the balance or status quo or who had invented something truly special. Unless you are manufacturing anti-matter in your basement or trying to put a FE device in every home/car you don't have anything to be concerned about IMO.

Chris posted this 11 January 2018

As of this year (((they))) don't have the influence they once had

World Wide Eutrophic Smack Down of Evil - I am totally tickled about this! (((they))) have been reaped and this time the Grim Reaper is shinning light for all!

Team Q

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Chris posted this 11 January 2018

since currant is flowing in two direction we have a north north opposing fields at the positive brush that keeps both sides of the inductor separate allowing complete unison as the brush rotates.

And this is the part that is music to my ears!

We have, from the Horses mouth, Clemente Figuera, that the Clemente Figuera Infinite Energy Machine was, in his words:

 

PRINCIPLE OF THE INVENTION

Watching closely what happens in a Dynamo in motion, is that the turns of the induced circuit approaches and moves away from the magnetic centers of the inductor magnet or electromagnets, and those turns,  while spinning, go through sections of the magnetic  field of different power, because, while this has its maximum attraction in the center of the core of each electromagnet, this action will weaken as the induced  is separated from the center of the electromagnet, to increase again, when the induced is approaching the center of another electromagnet with opposite sign to the first one.

Because we all know that the effects that are manifested when a closed circuit approaches and moves away from a magnetic center are the same as when, this circuit being still and motionless, the magnetic field is increased and reduced in intensity;  since any variation , occurring in the flow traversing a circuit is producing electrical  induced current .It was considered the possibility of building a machine that would work, not in the principle of movement, as do the current dynamos, but using the principle of increase and decrease, this is the variation of the power of the magnetic field, or the electrical current which produces it.

The voltage from the total current of the current dynamos is the sum of partial induced currents born in each one of the turns of the induced. Therefore it matters little to these induced currents if they were obtained by the turning of the induced, or by the variation of the magnetic flux that runs through them; but in the first case, a greater source of mechanical work than obtained electricity is required, and in the second case, the force necessary to achieve the variation of flux is so insignificant that it can be derived without any inconvenience, from the one supplied by the machine.

Until the present no machine based on this principle has been applied yet to the production of large electrical currents, and which among other advantages, has suppressed any necessity for motion and therefore the force needed to produce it.
In order to privilege the application to the production of large industrial electrical currents, on the principle that says that “there is production of induced electrical current provided that you change in any way the flow of force through the induced circuit,” seems that it is enough with the previously exposed; however, as this application need to materialize in a machine, there is need to describe it in order to see how to carry out a practical application of said principle.

This principle is not new since it is just a consequence of the laws of induction stated by Faraday in the year 1831: what it is new and requested to privilege is the application of this principle to a machine which produces large industrial electrical currents which until now cannot be obtained but transforming mechanical work into electricity.

PATENT by CLEMENTE FIGUERA (year 1908) No. 44267 (Spain)

The truth is, Electromagnetic Induction does produce an E.M.F and as a result, most of the time, a Current, an M.M.F will become available.

Of course, these two quantities are our Focal Point.

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Marathonman posted this 11 January 2018

I hope you realize the part you quoted i am talking about part G the controller Chris not the generating part.

the average person i have found through out my journey can not understand or decipher the patent on the Figuera devise in it's entirety and especially falters on part G associating the pic in the patent with the real device. that is why i am trying do describe what is happening in the parts of the device. i am not sure if posting parts of the patent will have a positive or negative effect on them.

what i suggest is any one pursuing the Figuera device is down load all patents and read word for word every line and what i have posted to get a better understanding of what is going on in this device. identifying the parts of the system will also help in the understanding of what i post.

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Zanzal posted this 11 January 2018

Good info here, definitely convinced me to give this one a try. For a small prototype what is the recommended construction recipe here. I understand the coils all need to have a soft iron core (which is difficult and somewhat expensive to source). Can anyone recommend based on experience:

1. minimum number coil sets (7 shown in the patent, can it be done with 1 set, 2 sets, etc?)

2. minimum/maximum dimensions for soft iron cores for N/S coils and also for pickup? 

3. wiring gauges for wiring for both the N/S coils and also pickup?

Just looking for basic replication starting point, not for use necessarily on a practical scale. 

 

Chris posted this 11 January 2018

Hey Marathonman, yes, I see.

Studied and read many times. Perhaps my interpretation is a little different from yours.

Do you have your own schematic drawn up?

   Chris

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Marathonman posted this 11 January 2018

yes i can. start with no less than two sets.

use MOTS to start (microwave oven cores) all the same size and weight.

any dimension will do as long as the secondary is not larger than the primaries.

wire size is up to the builder but output is recommended to be same or larger.

start small for replication.

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So lets sum up the the information that is presented so far on the Figuera device through my research and what was shared to me .

------------PRIMARIES------------

1. primaries need to have low self induction as fast response time in essential.

2. lowest ohms as possible since part G controls the currant and we need the highest magnetic field possible within the limits of the core material. can be series or paralleled but preferrable lowest ohm's possible. use of thick wire is recommended for lowest ohms possible and the use of thick foil is most optimal. wind as electromagnets with highest magnetism not according to known winding tech. part G controls the currant not the primaries.

3. the coil winding's need to span almost the entire length of the core not leaving huge gaps.

4. the primaries have to be equal or larger than the secondaries and at no time smaller. remembering square of the distance.

5. primaries need to be separate from the secondaries as eddy currants will interfere with the primaries main function and create losses and heat.

6. be butted up next to secondaries with as little as gap as possible, use resin on ends.

7. be properly secured as massive pressures will make parts fly at extreme velocities with possible risk of injury.

8. use of N/N primaries opposing fields to attain double strength E field as N/S.

9. Winding will be announced after complete running device and self sustaining. CW in testing.

10. Not wound according to present winding techniques. wound specifically to be electromagnets as part G controls currant flow.

----------SECONDARIES----------

1. core thickness to match primary.

2. wound with thicker wire according to load requirements with headroom.

3. winding span almost entire length of core not leaving huge gaps.

4. can be series and or paralleled to attain voltage and currant requirements.

5. use of secondary to power it self to replace losses in part G from wire, heat and core losses.

6. wound according to present day techniques.

----------Part G------------

1. Core va rating must exceed load rating (primaries high and low) plus additional head room steering clear of saturation. if saturation occures device will cease functioning.

2. be wound with thicker wire than primaries remembering that the wire rating is the sum of lower smaller branches plus headroom. since patent says (commutator bars ) i would suggest square wire as it is easiest to get a flat face.

3. use a closed core system, ie. toroid type core (most efficient) as feedback from primaries is of great importance mirroring primaries opposing function and proper magnetic field rotation. EI core can be used but with lower performance. straight core is not recommended as flux field can not be retained nor rotated.

4. secure wire to core as relative high rotational speeds will be attained if using standard rotating part G. transistor driven does not.

5. use high quality brushes as wear longevity is essential for standard rotating part G.

6. brush rotation of part G causes dynamic induction allowing currant manipulation through magnetic core saturation/inductance/impedance change. rotation of brush magnetically links windings to circuit causing additional self inductance.

7. be wound CWW starting from Set S output on bottom up the left side all the way around in one continuous wind or two halves joined together. 

------------TIMING-------------

1. timing is very crucial in the Figuera device, primaries are to be kept in complete unison at all times,

2. timing of primaries are 180 degrees from each other, as one is rising the other is falling but allowing the primaries ans secondaries to remain in phase. 

3. at no time is the primaries reduced to below half way and NEVER ZERO as induction will be lost from the reducing electromagnet falling to the output of the rising electromagnet reducing the output to 1/2 of original output. suggested 1/3 to 1/2 depending on core geometry.

4. collision wall of opposing electromagnets has to just clear secondary to attain proper B x V Motional field function as does maintaining complete unison all while retaining 80 to 90 % of original field strength.

----------DEVICE----------

1. this device is DC operated. ac will not work in this device as reversing polarities will cause the destruction of the duel Motional Electric Fields as well as all inductive kickback ect. also the magnetic fields take to long to build up with AC.

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Chris posted this 11 January 2018

In the original documentation some images were placed in the mix, I have no idea if they are legit!

 

 

I do suspect someone has gone a little crazy with a red pen... Inflicting some pain on what was really being said.

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Marathonman posted this 11 January 2018

Like i said  that miss information will only serve to confuse people and new comers.

that paper was assumed by someone and found to be incorrect. besides the fact that the drawing is there for comprehension ONLY and IS NOT THE REAL DEVICE as stated in the patent. i repeat the pic is NOT THE REAL DEVICE.

and i hope your understanding Chris is not based on that pic.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 11 January 2018

Chris;

Interpretation is a little different than yours.

well lets here it and i will explain in detail if there are errors.

Marathonman

Chris posted this 11 January 2018

and i hope your understanding Chris is not based on that pic.

Hey Marathonman,

No sir, expressed was scepticism, not faith!

   Chris

Marathonman posted this 11 January 2018

We have a long way to go yet to get everyone up to speed on this device so i will wait just a bit before i start posting schematics.

I am still working out an anomaly in part G but i will post a general sketch of the device as a whole.

Marathonman

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Chris posted this 11 January 2018

Chris;

Interpretation is a little different than yours.

well lets here it and i will explain in detail if there are errors.

Marathonman

Hey Marathonman,

I guess I work a little different than most. I look for Key Words, Key Sentences and then I use Fact to disseminate Negative Sentiment.

Basically, I look for provable Facts. Facts that can be proven to be true on the bench. All else I put in a "Maybe Later" basket. So, what Facts do we know about  Clemente Figuera?

  • He studied in depth Dynamos, same type of device as we know today as an Electrical "Generator"
  • Obtained from the Clemente Figuera Device was an excess of Current and Voltage
  • This Excess was attributed to Faradays Laws of Electromagnetic Induction.
  • As was mentioned, the word "Current" was one of the top words used, we know a Changing Current is analogous to a Changing Magnetic Field, thus supporting the Electromagnetic Induction hypothesis.
  • Fact is, the description of the device does vary from document to document which could mean several things.
  • Clemente Figuera spoke of "the sum of partial induced currents born in each one of the turns of the induced", this we have evidence and experimental proof several times in other Devices.
  • It was often mentioned, pluralised: "induced currents", for example: "Therefore it matters little to these induced currents if they were obtained by the turning of the induced, or by the variation of the magnetic flux that runs through them"
  • Fact is, the Sum of two Currents is greater then one Current Individually. A quality we are focused.
  • No one description of the device holds with Electromagnetic Induction.
  • The use of the term: "induced" is regularly mixed up, or confused with the mentioned Coil and or Input to its respective Output - Remember Figuera studied in depth Induction, he knows what "Induced" means!

The list goes on, but I think there is enough here to see what I mean. To get a bit of a handle on where and what I look for.

My one line interpretation of the Clemente Figuera device: 

A Machine that took full and complete advantage of Electromagnetic Induction to produce an excess Output Power in respect to its Input Power.

I hope this helps?

   Chris

 

Marathonman posted this 11 January 2018

The machine took full advantage of electromagnetic induction because it was lined up core to core at all time not separating like rotating ones.

the reason the device put out more than it took to run it was due to the fact that it had no moving parts and only moved the massless weightless field plus sentence one.

induction is just induction according to Faraday's laws of induction. a regular generator would do the same if it wasn't for the massive cogging effect. both type only take a small percent to excite.

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Hey Marathonman,

Just for the record, I think youre on the right track.

Todays massive Hydro Generators can be very efficient. Today’s standard reaches up to 99%.

One has to think about this for a while, What exactly is measured and what is converted to what in these measurements?

Shaft Torque is 100% of the Input Energy, this is the unit Newton Metre.

The Output is Electrical Energy, this is Watts, which is Joule's per second.

So what's the < 1% - Bearing Friction, Hysteresis and Windage Losses. 

A Transformer, the same problem exists, Hysteresis Losses and so on.

The Problem here is, we have a ratio of Input to Output! This ratio is a function of the Energy Conversion Process. This is a Closed System and no extra work can be done at any time during this process.

Energy Input: One Unit

Energy Output: Transformation of the One Unit less losses.

Ensuring a System that is ALWAYS below Unity.

In our System, we must invoke more than one Transformation, I have shown how to do this here: Some Coils Buck and Some Coils DONT

   Chris

Marathonman posted this 12 January 2018

I agree and Figuera bucked the system all to hell

that is why he says a transformation of mechanical work to electricity in layman terms is BS.

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Marathonman posted this 12 January 2018

I read and study up to 15 hrs a day on my days off and my brain hertz. time to go to bed, i'll catch you guts tomorrow.

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Chris posted this 12 January 2018

I agree and Figuera bucked the system all to hell

that is why he says a transformation of mechanical work to electricity in layman terms is BS.

Agreed Marathonman, he does actually point this out in his text:

electromagnet with opposite sign to the first one

...

what is sought is the patent for the application of this principle

You can check the context if you like, but there is a direct correlation between the two snippets. One is the 'objective' and the second is the 'intent'.

Clemente Figuera was a very smart cookie! Well before his time.

Gnite, sleep well.

   Chris

Marathonman posted this 12 January 2018

i cannot add pictures at all. when i click  the pop up nothing on it works. plus i can not copy and paste only when i use script block will it let me copy and paste plus it double post a lot like just now it posted twice so i deleted one and both disappeared so i posted a gain.

It could be my browser.

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Marathonman posted this 12 January 2018

If you want to get nitty gritty Buforn's patents are null and void. you can not patent a patent and thus renders them useless. they made a mistake at the patent office which was in Barcelona Spain by issuing them to him. even though his patents are the same as Figuera's he spilled the beans a little more than Figuera did as we all know from the 1908 patent is really cryptic and exposed only enough info to just get the patent.

the 20 year patent ran out in 1928 and  was buried in the patent office until it was found about 8 years ago and has been in the public domain ever since thus any replication there of CAN NOT BE PATENT as any and all in the public domain can not be patent.

i expose this info for all to see and build so those sorry Banksters can go to H#LL.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 12 January 2018

Just tried another browser and no dice still no pic post.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 12 January 2018

When using mots use the center leg only. carefully cut the other legs off and clean up core as best as you can either by layer by layer or the whole thing at once. it was suggested by someone to use the same winding that were on the mot but the winding's are not wide enough to span the whole length of the core so a rewind is at hand. make sure the primaries are exactly the same size and weight.

when i can finally post pics i will show you guys how to make awesome bobbins on the cheap with recycled plastic bottles cloth i picked up from wall mart @ 23 cents each 12x12 inch. after i cut and wrapped around my core supper gluing into place then covered in fiberglass resin. the cloth soaks it up and becomes rock hard bobbins with just a few coats.

you can then wind away.

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Chris posted this 12 January 2018

Just tried another browser and no dice still no pic post.

Hey Marathonman, an odd problem!

What browser are you using? And what Version?

Can you try the following:

  • Turn off popup blockers.
  • Turn off any Active Screen Filters you may have
  • Update Java to the latest version.
  • Turn off any anti Virus software.

If you can try one at a time, then try to add an image, this may narrow down whats causing the problem. 

Of course, when done, turn them all back on!

TinyMCE is perhaps the most popular html editor in the world! The website: https://www.tinymce.com/

Perhaps try on their site with one of the many demo's there also.

No one else has reported this problem, is anyone having this problem?

   Chris

 

P.S: So you're not getting the second popup after clicking the Image Button like this:

 

 

 

Marathonman posted this 12 January 2018

I get the pop up but the browse button is not there and the rectangle boxes are covering up half the words. i already have the pop up turned off, java is ok and Flash is allowed so beyond that i haven't a clue.

I will attach a pic of the pop up box.

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Chris posted this 12 January 2018

I get the pop up but the browse button is not there and the rectangle boxes are covering up half the words. i already have the pop up turned off, java is ok and Flash is allowed so beyond that i haven't a clue.

I will attach a pic of the pop up box.

Hey Marathonman - I have to go out, but real quick, try pasting the Image path into the box 'Sour' so it might look like something like:

  • C:\Users\Chris\Desktop\Image.jpg

but yours will be different path, and then try clicking Ok.

See if you can make some progress that way?

The image you posted, I have not seen it before, have no idea why you're getting this box.

You've followed all the steps here: Help with using the Forum and that's the box you get? This is completely odd!

   Chris

Marathonman posted this 12 January 2018

Can not copy and paste won't let me. even tried the new Mozilla Firefox, Google chrome, Internet Explorer and Chromium,  the same thing.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 12 January 2018

One thing is very useful when testing your primaries is the use of a high powered resistor. see the primaries are wound to get the most bang for the buck with low resistance not according to present day winding techniques where resistance controls the currant. since the are specifically wound as electromagnets because part G controls the currant flow,  that tends to freak out power supplies so a few high power resistors connected in series helps. checking the resistance on an adjustable resistor set to 100 ohms  with the primary connected will will give you  1 amp @ 100 volts and this is what Figuera used.

i have two 300 watt adjustable resistors and they come in real handy at a purchase price of 24 dollars each.

using a little more currant will not hurt a thing as long as you don't go crazy.

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Zanzal posted this 12 January 2018

Can not copy and paste won't let me. even tried the new Mozilla Firefox, Google chrome, Internet Explorer and Chromium,  the same thing.

Marathonman

I don't get the browse button either so I cheat:

1) Upload the image as an attachment after creating the post
2) Copy the attachment link below the post into the clipboard
3) Edit the post and insert the image using the attachment link url
4) Wait a few seconds for the image to appear then edit the dimensions of the image to better fit the forum.

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Marathonman posted this 12 January 2018

we will see if it works. yahoo,,, thanks Zanzal.

below is a pic of the finished primaries and secondaries on a core of iron.

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Marathonman posted this 12 January 2018

Here is a pic of the building of the bobbins. the cloth is eco-Fi  craft felt made from recycled plastic bottles.

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Marathonman posted this 12 January 2018

Here they are curing in front of the fire place.

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And finally here is a pic of painted finished bobbins.

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Wistiti posted this 13 January 2018

Hey MM, it is a pleasure to have you here with us!


I want to start with a welcome to finally a forum where people can freely share their building experiment without the fear of being challenged by bad mind people...

Here people are free to experiment with the bucking coil ,POC, technique (cause we already know it work) or any other approach they want. 

The main idea here is to build, learn and share together.


With that say, please do not be upset if the “mass” do not replicate what you are sharing.... This “mass” builders is not so high in number and some share their experiment and some other prefer to not... That the way it goes and it is ok like that.

Anyway, everyone learn and progress at their convinience...

Again I’m happy to have you here sharing!

Zanzal posted this 13 January 2018

Those coils turned out pretty nice.

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Marathonman posted this 13 January 2018

Here is a pic of my winder and the winding tree as i call it made from water pipe from Lows.

Thank you all for the kind comments.

Marathonman

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Marathonman posted this 13 January 2018

And here is a side view of the finished primary.

Marathonman

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Marathonman posted this 13 January 2018

Here is a shot of the 300 watt resistors i use to test my primaries out with the 100 volt  power supply.

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Marathonman posted this 13 January 2018

This is a very, very important graph. as you always have to be aware of the spin and currant directions when winding coils.  if your wire goes around the bottom of the core you will catch the top side spin.  if your wire goes around over the top you will catch the bottom side of the spin.

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Marathonman posted this 13 January 2018

The first pic is a weld on a lot of cheap MOTs that has to be ground away to separate the I from the E. the second pic is where the cut lines are to be.

If using MOT cores (Microwave Oven Transformers) the pic illustrates where the cut lines are to be made. the red line is for the center leg and the blue line is for the outer legs where you will have to use both legs to equal the center leg. i would suggest using to matched center legs for the primaries and use the double outer legs for the secondary or all center legs if you have that many cores,

using stuff that other people throw away can really lighten the load on the wallet but will require a little thought and work, but in the long run you will be that much more happier because not only did you do it yourself, you lightened the load to the landfill.

other transformer material can be used also. if you find a three phase trany all three legs are the same size and can make many, many cores but with added work to the finished core.

I have pure iron cores to work with but the cost for 99.8 % pure cores are totally crazy expensive and the benefits do not out weigh the cost. using modern day laminations will get a higher output and stronger primaries.

The reason the primaries and the secondaries are on separate cores is due to the fact that the secondaries will have eddy currants that will effect the primaries function and this is not what we want. the sole purpose of the primaries is to be an electromagnet so by separating them and using laminations is the best way to go. since the magnetic field from the primaries resides in the space occupied by the secondary the secondaries have no influence what so ever on the primaries.

once your system is set you can use resin to attach the core to each other that way there is a barrier to stop eddies.

Marathonman

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Marathonman posted this 13 January 2018

Here is a pic of my solid iron cores. if you notice i have them cut and resined together to stop eddy currants i then buffed them out removing unwanted resin. bobbins can be made square to match your MOTS if using them and can be wound so much easier than directly to the core plus can be adjusted more easily.

putting clamps on the MOT's will help stop the laminations from separating when cutting them. use a new blade also.

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Marathonman posted this 14 January 2018

Again i can not stress the importance of spin and currant direction. all primaries are in the same winding direction with the exact amount of winding's as balance is essential between the primaries. i am sorry i changed it, it is CW looking at the face of the electromagnet.

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Marathonman posted this 14 January 2018

If anyone is interested in building this device and will be using mot's, the folder i have attached is exactly how i made my bobbins. they can be made ANY shape you want just remember to cover your cores with some non stick material first. i oiled my core down lightly but i still had a time getting them off as that resin can be quite stubborn at times. plus covering them will give your bobbins some extra inner diameter allowing them to slide on the core with ease.

Marathonman 

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Marathonman posted this 14 January 2018

A very handy tool when experimenting with coils and magnets is a magnetic pole identifier. just push the button to find the pole orientation.

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Marathonman posted this 14 January 2018

 

Here is a very basic illustration of the system. i know this is a lot of info so i will take it easy for a while to allow the people visiting this thread to study, understand and absorb the info presented so far.

reading and understanding the Tesla's AC to DC patent you will come to realize the same type of dynamics are at work, the use of a magnetic field to block currant in one direction but allows currant to flow in the other direction all while allowing currant put into the system to flow through it.

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Marathonman posted this 15 January 2018

Chris,

  Yesterday i tried to log on and got an error message. i  took a screen shot of the error and printed it out as a PDF. the attached is that error message. i would of used a personal message but you can't add after posting there. you can delete it after seeing it if you want.

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Marathonman posted this 15 January 2018

 

Here is a shot of what part G would look like. in the original part G what Figuera used was an inner brush wheel that rotated inside an insulated iron cylinder but since that takes some awesome skills that the average person doesn't have i would suggest a build like the pic that is still immune to brush lifting from centrifugal forces. since the motor is only rotating a brush it doesn't have to be a monster motor. as long as it can rotate the brush at the speed required to get the frequency of your country. ie.... 3600 rpm for the US, 3000 for 50 hz.

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Marathonman posted this 15 January 2018

Basically like the picture shows your part G will control the currant in this fashion. raising and lowering the currant is a nice orderly linearly fashion. as the brush rotates from say set S to set N.  the set S side will have more winding's being added magnetically linking to the circuit thus more opposition to currant flow and the opposite for the set N side all while staying completely separate from one another through the opposing north fields at the brush thus acting in complete unison of each other. both halves acting just like independent dynamic inductors either storing and releasing energy at the very moment the reducing electromagnet inductive kick back is inserted into part G thus amplifying the the power going to the increasing electromagnet and the storing of the field from the rising electromagnet for the next half cycle.

 

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Chris posted this 15 January 2018

  Yesterday i tried to log on and got an error message. i  took a screen shot of the error and printed it out as a PDF. the attached is that error message. i would of used a personal message but you can't add after posting there. you can delete it after seeing it if you want.

Hey Marathonman, a bit of a pain this message. The Antiforgery token has been issued twice and one becomes invalid. Its normal if you try to logon over top of an existing login. Not to say you did, but sometime hitting the login button twice fast while logging in can cause this. Other things can cause this also. Its ok, no problems your end, or Server side, its just an issue with the login.

This is resolved by closing the page and trying again or sometimes going back and using the previous Token.

Thanks for letting me know!

   Chris

Marathonman posted this 15 January 2018

OK.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 15 January 2018

I have had the worst day of my life. my friend of mine and i were moving my device build to a larger facility for testing purposes as he has more equipment for measuring,  the BONE HEAD tripped and dropped the box that had my completely built cores in them completely destroying one core all together and mangled the other badly. this set me back so bad i could just smash my head against the wall. he was so scared he bought me a case of beer and ran out the door.

here is a pic of what is left of one of my primaries.

 

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Chris posted this 16 January 2018

Sorry to hear Marathonman, a bad day! Hope your day improves!

   Chris

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Marathonman posted this 16 January 2018

Rather than trying to repair them i will just build them from scratch. the secondaries thank god are still ok, how in the world that happened i haven't a clue. hopefully i have enough wire and resin still on hand. oh by the way, if anyone in the US is in need of wire EIS is the cheapest in the US for wire. i would of liked to wind them with square wire but that would of been to expensive so i just used square on part G.

but please remember folks that the primaries DO NOT dictate or control currant, that is the job of part G. so wind your primaries to be specifically electromagnets.

Thanks Chris, and yes it did. i got a call from a friend that needs help that will net me a few grand so i will be replacing the primaries very shortly. i also had damage to the brush holder that connects to the motor so back to the shop it goes to be repaired or redone.

my advice to people would be don't enlist the help from a clutz.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 16 January 2018

I have decided to replace video 1 with a general video of the device as a whole and the function of the parts since i deleted the original. even though i wish Energetic forum servers would burn to the ground, we must move on so i will replace it. also video 3 will be out shortly and it will be about the primary and the secondaries actions. part 4 will be about part G exclusively.

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Marathonman posted this 16 January 2018

I hope that if any one has any questions whether logged on this forum or as a visitor has a question please feel free to ask away. even if you are a physics graduate or a teacher please feel free to grab a name on this forum and ask away. i care not from which you travel from, i only care from which you travel from here. knowing the ways of Mr. Figuera will change your life and your knowledge of this world. there should be a device in every house and village on this planet thus the lousy grid should be torn down and scrapped to build more devices.

Please ask away if you don;t understand or are even curious. PM me if you want to remain anonomous.

Marathonman

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Marathonman posted this 16 January 2018

picture is for illustration purposes only to grasp the system of Figuera. the actual wind direction of part G is CCW starting at set S to set N as this would give the necessary N><N field at the positive brush allowing both sides of the brush to act independent but in complete unison,

 

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Marathonman posted this 16 January 2018

This is part of the reason why a magnet pushed into a coil and pulled out of a coil the spin direction changes. i may be wrong, i may be right but all i know that when you pull out a magnet or decrease it's currant the currant changes direction. this is why i believe something so minute we can't see is spinning in our universe.

plain old research DOES NOT LIE.

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Zanzal posted this 17 January 2018

Not to derail, but I should point out in reference to that graphic that the bible provides an answer to key to the Kingdom of God. The key Kingdom of God is the Messiah. There is a door only he can open and only he can shut. This door provides entry into the Kingdom of God. Further its understood that flesh and blood (which is powered by DNA) cannot enter the Kingdom of God. These things can be described in sciency terms (higher dimensions, virtual universe simulations, etc), but DNA is not the key to the Kingdom of God.

 

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Marathonman posted this 17 January 2018

WOW ! i just laid out so much info to the figuera device and all you can say is is a comment about something i completely forgot that was on that graph about a book that is basically a complete lie in the first place twisted by man to suit his own needs as a tool of control.

it seems i might be in the wrong place to present the Figuera device and need to reassess my reasons for being here .

Marathonman

Vasile posted this 17 January 2018

This is part of the reason why a magnet pushed into a coil and pulled out of a coil the spin direction changes. i may be wrong, i may be right but all i know that when you pull out a magnet or decrease it's currant the currant changes direction. this is why i believe something so minute we can't see is spinning in our universe.

plain old research DOES NOT LIE.

Marathonman

Welcome to the forum Marathonman, I apreciate your input and watch with interest every post you make.Today I took a relay coil and a magnet. I connected the relay coil to an osciloscope and while pushing the magnet in the coil and taking it out of the coil I noticed the voltage waveform changes polarity, so I confirm watch you are saying.

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Marathonman posted this 17 January 2018

Yes Vasile, simple tests at home can verify everything i have posted. i have and do make mistakes on occasion just like everyone else as i am human but my time spent researching this device is in the 10's of thousands of hrs.  sometimes i just sit and think about the fields flowing back and fourth interacting with each other so the mistakes i make are far in between.

a lot of so called free energy devices out there are literally just scams to rob you of your hard earned money like on Energetic and OU just to sell pipe dreams and trinkets for a buck. i on the other hand have chosen to raise the awareness of people around the world that this device did in fact exist and was functioning in his house powering his lights, a twenty horse power motor and the street lights around his house.

everything in my videos can also be verified in the comfort of your own home. and hopefully if i am successful in my endevers i will be the spark that light curiosity and possibly bring self sustainment to humanity that desperately need it.

watch, learn, build, test, verify and be happy.

Marathonman

 

 

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Marathonman posted this 17 January 2018

The pic represents part G and the opposing magnetic fields at the brush that allow both sides of the inductor to act as independent inductors but being in total unison. as the brush rotates toward set N the opposing magnetic field is growing smaller thus more currant is allowed to flow from less winding's magnetically linking the circuit also storing currant in the form of a magnetic field used to feed set S the next half rotation of the brush. as the brush rotated toward set N, set S winding's are increasing magnetically linking to the circuit reducing the currant and releasing energy into the circuit. at the same time Set S electromagnets is reducing being shoved out of the secondary causing EMF generation in the winding's that aides the reducing inductor amplifying the power to set N with two forms of supply. thus the two acting as an amplifier to the rising set N.

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Marathonman posted this 17 January 2018

Here is another graph depicting the same thing, a orderly rise and fall of currant in complete unison using self inductance, a opposing magnetic field to control currant flow. if a regular resistor used here would cause massive losses and enough heat to heat your house or catch fire.

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Vasile posted this 17 January 2018

 Hello again Marathonman.It is clear you have a deep understanding of this device.The best understanding that I got was from the video that u posted some days ago.U explain better your ideas thru videos.Atleast this is my opinion.

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Marathonman posted this 17 January 2018

Thank you Vasile.

I really am glad you understand the point i was trying to convey. i have other videos in the making. i have decided to replace video 1 as it was just a gripe video of Energetic pitfalls. anyways it will be an overall operation of the device. video 2 is what you watched explaining why electromagnets are all north face. video 3 will be on the operation of the primaries and the secondaries and video 4 will be on part G exclusively.

again thanks and i hope you enjoy the series.

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Vasile posted this 17 January 2018

 I studied it myself and as a point I noticed is that the currents circulating in the primaries with the aid of part G, remain in oposition meaning N-N but they are 90 degrees out of phase.Am I right?

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Marathonman posted this 17 January 2018

That would possibly be true if it was AC but in this device we are using DC so not a phase difference.  just in relation to the secondary the raising and lowering of the currant. while one is rising the other is falling or rather reducing.

this is how the double intensity E field is produced as the reducing is catching the back side of the spin making both Circular E fields the same direction while maintaining their magnetic opposition.

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Marathonman posted this 17 January 2018

I don't know where i got this from maybe Walter Russel might have said It i don't remember but what it said is the Magnetic Field itself that creates drag; it creates Friction on Electric Charge itself. It can be seen as heat in Conventional Electric Generators. ie. Lenz Law. this would tend to be very true especially in an inductor's point of view. a changing magnetic field creates drag on currant flow thus reducing it for a period of time and when the field equalizes full currant flow is restored. the reduction period in the part G has been extended on a dynamic basis adding or subtracting winds as the brush rotates thus the two fields are either increasing or decreasing and never equalize.

This very fact must be true as Walter Russel's device had almost no magnetic properties at all and was based on the amplification factor similar to a tornado amplifying voltage and currant.

Interestingly, the World’s most efficient Generators are 98–99% efficient; this means that 100% of Rotational Shaft Energy, with a 1-2% loss in friction/heating and other losses, and the other 98–99 % are the effects of Lenz Law creating Magnetic Drag on the moving Rotor to generate Electrical Energy.

in the Figuera device the 98 to 99 % rotational drag has been eliminated all together.

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Zanzal posted this 17 January 2018

WOW ! i just laid out so much info to the figuera device and all you can say is is a comment about something i completely forgot that was on that graph about a book that is basically a complete lie in the first place twisted by man to suit his own needs as a tool of control.

it seems i might be in the wrong place to present the Figuera device and need to reassess my reasons for being here .

Marathonman

Greetings Marathonman,

Yes, I appreciate your sharing and being here. I have a religious obligation to combat heresy just as I have an obligation not to lie or to steal or to harm other people. We have to be true to our beliefs. Feel free to express yourself in any way you see fit, I shall do the same and with much politeness if at all possible.

Marathonman posted this 17 January 2018

I can appreciate that but the post was very unintentional as i forgot that was on that graph even though an interpretation directly from the dead sea scrolls stated that very fact. i tend to leave the religion beliefs and science completely separate as my belief don't coincide with a man written book of control and science and physics speak for them selves.

I dedicated my life to this device (to help out humanity) not to religion so you will have to excuse my frankness from time to time as i mean no harm or ill will toward anyone except energetic forum. i hope his mainframe melts to the ground. ha, ha, ha

So how did you like the info on the mot's ? hopefully it will be useful to builders of very small test builds as mot's are easily attainable.

 

Marathonman

 

Zanzal posted this 17 January 2018

So how did you like the info on the mot's ? hopefully it will be useful to builders of very small test builds as mot's are easily attainable.

I thought the info you provided was very complete and concise and your own turned out excellent. I was sad to hear about the mishap. I myself don't have the equipment or machining skills today to take the same path, but there are those that can and will thanks to that info. I was thinking about obtaining some smaller bar stock and making a scaled down version. I'm doing some research into the solid state version of part G that uses two decade counters. I find that device alone to be very interesting and I'm going to build one and study it as soon as I can.

Marathonman posted this 18 January 2018

Thank you very much. i to was dazzled a the thought of electronics but the cost of the electronics to exactly mimic the rotation was out of this world. it will be very hard to replace part G as it has many functions that aide in the function of the device that can't easily replicated with electronics. that is why i went back to the original device build.

maybe something like 1/2 inch iron bar might be down your alley but mots are so easily had as people throw them away all the time

good luck either way.

Marathonman

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Marathonman posted this 19 January 2018

Zanzal;

I to don't have a lot of tool but what i do have gets it done or i IMPROVISE. i wanted my core nicely cut so i went to a machine shop that fixed valves and asked the big boss what he would charge to cut them. when he asked me what it was for his eyes lite up and i sat there for 30 minutes explaining the device. well long story short he cut them for free and said good luck and to please stop by for an update on the device. so you see improvise to get it done and include people in your adventure, it makes them feel like that had a part in it.

down load all pics and graphs and study this device like crazy. be sure to tell other people about it and what you are doing to help humanity, you will be surprised at what you can accomplish and what doors will open.

I have the flu, don't feel well and 10 hr day is long tomorrow so i must rest.

Marathonman

Zanzal posted this 19 January 2018

down load all pics and graphs and study this device like crazy. be sure to tell other people about it and what you are doing to help humanity, you will be surprised at what you can accomplish and what doors will open.

Have you considered the level of danger individuals pose to your work? Everyone so concerned about the Rothschilds, never realize there are those who would suppress this because it suits their interests as well. Especially because of where you live, lots of people with ties to oil, wind, and solar. Think about this: Someone blabs and tells their rich Uncle about your research, the next day two ex-cons show up and rand-sack your home. You remember the theory that everyone is connected by at most 7 levels of separation?

I have the flu, don't feel well and 10 hr day is long tomorrow so i must rest.

My whole house over here recovering from whatever is going around. Get well soon.

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Marathonman posted this 20 January 2018

Zanzal;

According to your post two weeks ago there was no threat yet today there is one.

You darn right there is always that possibility as are world is full of sick, greedy materialistic people that would like nothing better than to kill the opposition to maintain there pathetically empty, rich life style.

if everyone in this world knew of this device the safer it will be, hell they can't kill us all even though we at the present time are heading for extinction from the destruction of this planet through Corporate greed and pollution.

in my world everyone should have a power supply at their house, car, boat or what ever you have that needs power. the ability to grow their own food thus steering their lives as they seam fit. if we lived in a cashless society where everyone chip in a few hours a day of there time or materials for the betterment of the whole the seven deadly sins would be a thing of the past. i am sure everyone knows the seven deadly sins come directly from money,  the tool of control.

this device actually existed,  was built and was powering his house.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 20 January 2018

Here is another graph of the general operation and set up of the device. using the Tesla Ac to DC will allow currant to flow properly so when the reducing side of part G is releasing energy and set S inductive kick back into the system it can flow to the primaries as it should.

 

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Zanzal posted this 20 January 2018

Zanzal;

According to your post two weeks ago there was no threat yet today there is one.

You may have to take me literally sometimes. I'm known for splitting hairs. My words were this:

No worries man. As of this year (((they))) don't have the influence they once had. Also I don't think they kill people for knowing about FE or how to build FE devices. 

What I was saying is that group of people often referred to as the cabal aren't a serious threat to researchers. At least not in the early stages. Invent something revolutionary, and they come into the picture to take it from you (force or money depending on the nature of the invention and its implications), otherwise they are content to watch. Or at least they were, they've lost control now. Another threat may emerge to replace them, but again I don't see them as a threat to most FE researchers.

Now people who want to change the world have other threats to contend with. That's why I asked if you had considered human nature here.. Forewarned is forearmed.

Marathonman posted this 21 January 2018

I was forced to change my post for the really sensitive uninformed types so here it Goes.

you contradict your self in the same paragraph. research into the suppression of FE devices might be to your advantage as my 15 years Plus of research suggests otherwise. the list of murdered people following the FE path is longer than my front driveway.

i am here to spread the info of the Figuera device not squabble about 6,000 years of suppression, that is for another thread.

Chris;

I changed it according to your feelings but i must mind you that noting ones lack of information is in no way uncivil or disrespectful in any book.

Have a nice day.

Marathonman

 

Chris posted this 21 January 2018

@Marathonman - please check your PM, I have asked to edit and tone down your last post. 

We want to keep Civil and Respectful communication going here, unlike the other forums.

Thank You for respecting our Code of Conduct.

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Zanzal posted this 21 January 2018

you contradict your self in the same paragraph. research into the suppression of FE devices might be to your advantage as my 15 years Plus of research suggests otherwise. the list of murdered people following the FE path is longer than my front driveway.

I re-read what I posted and I don't see the contradiction you are referring too. Since I also read your original post where you made it clear you did not want to continue the discussion, I will leave it at that.

Zanzal posted this 21 January 2018

I found this video while searching for information on Clement Figuera, has some good details in it:

 

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Chris posted this 22 January 2018

I found this video while searching for information on Clement Figuera, has some good details in it: 

Hey Zanzal - Thanks for sharing!

For the Record, I disagree on this working principle. But I am interested to see what the end result is. My interpretation of this device is quite different, yes, I have read all patents and paper work.

The "Secondary Coil" will still exhibit Lenz's Law, Opposite magnetic Field effects, that will Reflect back on the "Primaries".

If the Primary Coil, is subjected to, any sort of, Magnetic Field Reflection, Lenz's law, from a Secondary Coil, then we are still stuck with an in-Efficient Transformer. Remembering the Magnetic Field, is Current, which is MMF and two opposing MMF's at the same time, if you have to pay for one of them, well, we know what a Transformer does.

That's my opinion and my experience, but happy for Marathonman to prove me wrong? Or anyone else?

   Chris

Zanzal posted this 22 January 2018

If the primary's oppose, which primary is the secondary linked too in a transformer....? If secondary flux is linked to N wouldn't it's opposition to N assist S or vis versa? Because the power though N is opposed by S (via part G) that the flux linkage normally enforced through Lenz might be opposed in this configuration.

Normally because of Lenz transformers can't gain energy from time rate of change.. Because the draw on the primary is always proportional to the secondary.. However, if that symmetry can be broken even by a little, then increases time of rate of change could increase power output, couldn't it? Further multiple transformers producing even a small percentage of excess power could result in a lot of power when put in series. I think your assessment is not unreasonable Chris, but its far from clear that this is a simple transformer. There is a lot of consider here so I think its worth exploring more.

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Chris posted this 22 January 2018

Hey Zanzal - Perhaps Marathonman will prove me wrong?

I am going to leave the floor to Marathonman or whoever else, and see if they can show I am wrong. I will read from now on.

   Chris

Marathonman posted this 22 January 2018

First off that video you posted has many flaws and one of them is about a rheostat. i am sorry but part G is not in any way shape or form a rheostat as any and i mean ALL resistors waste energy in the form of heat and in this case would heat your house up. Figuera as a really smart physics professor would of course use the most efficient method he could in his device aside from the fact that the patent specifically says the drawing is just to understand it;s operation and is in no way the real device. so why in heck are people so darn determined to treat it as such is beyond me. i am still laughing at this guys sad interpretation of the Figuera device thus obviously knows nothing of the sort with a complete lack of reasoning skills that totally miss the tech of that time period. plus the graph was ripped off from my Energetic forum thread and used in that video.

secondly your theories of  generators is completely flawed. i am sorry fellas this device IS NOT A TRANSFORMER in any way shape or form and you will never get anywhere if you continue to treat is as a transformer.

Yes Chris the secondary will still exhibit and follow the lenz law as that is unavoidable but  you are overlooking the fact that the field interaction is taking place outside of the primaries in the space occupied by the secondary and again the figuera device is not a transformer and you need to get that association out of your head if you are to understand this device at all and that goes for EVERYONE.

the primaries cause the initial induction in the secondary but as the currant starts to flow in the secondary and load it created a second field opposite to the first ie... lenz law. is it this field that is shoved from side to side in the secondary from the primaries. the way i understand it that once the secondary creates this second field inside of the secondary, the primary fields can easily move this field from side to side with ease with basically almost zero effort as long as the load is present.

this analogy is similar to that of a squirrel cage motor,  there is no current or voltage going into the rotor. It develops it's own current through induction and establishes it's own magnetic field only as a result of the relative motion between the rotating field and the core. If the core catches up to the rotating field the relative motion is reduced and the current in the rotor reduces slowing down the rotor until the relative motion is fast enough to induce a stronger field in the rotor so it can be pushed around by the rotating field again. They don't combine into mutual fields as that would stop the relative motion. Without having a rotating rotor like the squirrel cage motor to provide the difference between the rotating field and the induced field on the rotor it takes a bit of creative thinking to accomplish the same effect in a stationary condition of the cores in Clemente's generator. Maybe that will resonate with your classical training.  There is no electrical connection from primary to secondary and after induction in the secondary from the primary's, it produces current around the secondary (Y) which creates another field inside Y they part company and the primaries become the motive force that exerts motion onto Y provided Y is a closed circuit with resistance of it's own. motion across the circular E field in an N>N<N field with the secondary field in between the primaries.

I hope this helps.

Marathonman

 

Marathonman posted this 23 January 2018

As i have been saying i am open for questions and if you don't understand i will answer to the best of my ability. just please remember a Transformer is NOT a Generator and can not be treated as such.

Marathonman

Zanzal posted this 23 January 2018

Hey Marathonman,

Looking forward to seeing more on this. Your build is off to a great start. I'll reply back if a question comes to mind, but I'm going to focus on other projects for now.

Chris posted this 23 January 2018

I must post to say, sorry Marathonman, I have to disagree again, Electromagnetic Induction is Electromagnetic Induction and the rules or Laws don't change from Transformer to "Generator", Electromagnetic Induction is the fundamental Law, can not be changed.

A Transformer works on the Fundamental Electromagnetic Induction Laws, as does a "Generator", they are not the same devices, but the Laws are the same.

Transformers are designed around the exact same Equations as Electromagnetic Induction and Efficiencies are about the same for well designed devices.

So, I have to disagree with your interpretation and differentiation of the two devices. The underlying principles are the same, even though the devices are not the same.

The Hooper-Monstein Experiment might be worth your while looking into. Also you may find the Flux Gate Magnetometer interesting.

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Chris posted this 23 January 2018

I should have said - We have two different devices that both give us the same end result via the same fundamental Laws:

  • A Coil of Wire with Positive on one Terminal and Negative on the other Terminal.

   Chris

Marathonman posted this 23 January 2018

Yes, ill agree to the last only for the sake of the readers but in reality there is high pressure on one side and low pressure on the other.

additionally the Figuera device has an output square of two coils combined from the lowering of one coil thus the E fields are coherent and this can not be achieved by two plain bucking coils as their E fields are non coherent. thus the square of the two Figuera coils are 4 times the output of bucking coils.

a transformer transforms currant and voltage either up or down with the potential being the same with both minus losses.

a generator generates potential that is not proportional to it's input thus being a lot higher than what was put in. your average generator only requires a small percentage of it's output to excite it's magnetic coils and this is something that can NEVER be achieved with a transformer. this is something that Ramswami dude piece of junk in the PJK  book found out the hard way of trying to make a transformer generate, it isn't going to happen.

the Motional Electric Field is in no way proportional to standard transformer induction thus achieving a much higher potential than that of induction. this is FACT NOT OBSERVATION. thus a geny would only transform not generate if this was not the case.

these very equations is what J.P.Morgan paid Heaviside and Lorentz to rid Maxwell and Faraday's equations of all traces of free energy thus what we have left is pure crap equations. Morgan paid Millions to hide these equations from the public eye changing every book he could get his hands on.

aside the fact that a lot of our so called fundamental Law's of Physics are flawed from the start including gravity that does not exist. just like the fact that everything gives off a magnetic field from the energy it collects from the surrounding environment yet our eyes and brain show a different picture of reality thus giving us a false sense of observation and incorrect assumptions of Physics and reality as a whole.

sure the apple fell from the tree, that does not mean that gravity exists, just that our observation of what our eyes and brain told us it happened.

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Marathonman posted this 24 January 2018

Since i started this journey i have had a ton of people disagree with my findings so it is nothing unusual. most of the defiance is because of the lack of understanding or the total mind set of dogma classical training. in most cases the confusion are of spin direction or the fact that we have one electromagnet coming in (increasing) and one going out (decreasing) thus changes the spin or rather the E field direction and NOT the original magnetic field which does not change. just because you are pulling a magnet away from a coil does not change the fact that the magnetic field is always in one direction but the fact is we are catching the back side of the spin thus changes the direction of the E field to match that of the increasing electromagnet giving us an output that is the square of the two electromagnets in coherency thus four times the output as two non coherent.

as the secondary, with a load attached begins currant flow, the secondary will produce a opposing field according to the lenz law. it is this field that is sandwiched between the primaries and is swept across the E field that produces the output. it is just the relative motion of the primaries that causes this effect.

if the primaries are taken down to far in strength it will take to long for the magnetic field to build up and induction will drop to the rising electromagnet thus the output will fall considerably. this is why AC can never be used in the Figuera device. once the fields are up to running conditions the currant will flow through the primaries as if it was a straight piece of wire because the fields are at maximum strength and can not store any more in it's field. when the currant is reduced through part G (the controller) the primaries are still retaining a very large portion of its magnetic field so little currant is used or lost after this reducing process. the reducing is not in relation to each other but in relation to the secondary. since we have two opposing fields the width or breadth of the opposing fields will be quite large so the currant reduction of the reducing electromagnet will be small (1/3 to 1/2) to just clear the secondary then  rise as the other reduces in an orderly unison fashion.

since the electromagnets are NOT controlling the currant (PART G DOES THIS) they are to be wound specifically as electromagnets with very little resistance allowing them to fulfill their intended use. this again has everyone confused as most are use to winding them with resistance that controls currant flow and this would not be the case in the Figuera device as PART G controls the currant flow NOT the primaries. the primaries are not wound according to present day teachings because of the before mentioned fact. when testing primary electromagnets a high power resistor is handy to have as the low resistance of the primaries will freak out a power supply so additional resistance is helpful.

the secondaries on the other hand ARE wound according to present day teachings just as any standard generator would be.

since all the currant will be governed by part G and basically will be the power supply once the starting power is removed it is suggested to make sure the wire wound on part G not only has little ohms (resistance) but is large enough that it can handle the currant it is to supply the system plus headroom. part G stores and releases energy in the form of a magnetic field combines with the reducing electromagnets inductive kick into part G at that very moment causing an  amplification to the rising electromagnet. this also store considerable power in a magnetic field to feed set S the next half rotation when set S is set to increase and set N is decreasing. the N-N field at the positive brush allows the inductance of the two inputs to be governed separately but in complete unison. the addition or subtraction of winding's as the brush rotates will cause them to magnetically link or unlink to the system thus the opposition to currant flow will rise and fall in an orderly fashion using self inductance (magnetic fields) to control currant flow at an efficiency that not a single resistor on this planet can touch. the addition of the secondary attached to the system is there to supply currant from losses and aides in the amplification process to the rising electromagnet.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 24 January 2018

As you can read there is a lot more to the Figuera device than just a couple of bucking coils and it took one hell of a genius to figure this out. it is quite obvious that Figuera was unbelievably gifted but hid his device from the public eyes probably knowing some day it would be found and the cat would be let out of the bag.

MEOW !

Marathonman

Chris posted this 24 January 2018

Since i started this journey i have had a ton of people disagree with my findings so it is nothing unusual. most of the defiance is because of the lack of understanding or the total mind set of dogma classical training. in most cases the confusion are of spin direction or the fact that we have one electromagnet coming in (increasing) and one going out (decreasing) thus changes the spin or rather the E field direction and NOT the original magnetic field which does not change. just because you are pulling a magnet away from a coil does not change the fact that the magnetic field is always in one direction but the fact is we are catching the back side of the spin thus changes the direction of the E field to match that of the increasing electromagnet giving us an output that is the square of the two electromagnets in coherency thus four times the output as two non coherent.

Hey Marathonman - Although I disagree, doesn't mean I am not willing to learn, perhaps I have missed something in my journey? I am not stuck with dogma or ignorance - I am a student of Nature and all it has to share.

Every day I wake I look forward to a little more enlightenment, Learning is my thing, I am looking forward to your sharing of something new.

   Chris

Marathonman posted this 24 January 2018

Please do not get ruffled up as i was NOT pointing directly at you as that statement was directed to society as a whole.

you happen to be the 1% exception to the rule.

i would like to hear why you disagree and your point of view. then i might be able to give an answer that can resonate with your currant belief as to the function of the Figuera device. if it is about spin direction you might want to look again as  CRT does not lie nor the fact that when a magnet or electromagnet is taken down or out the currant direction changes other than that i do not see what there is to disagree on.

I to enjoy learning something new everyday and my journey into the Figuera device has awaken a monster inside me that has an insatiable desire to learn. and hopefully i can enlighten people before i pass to the wonderful world of Figuera.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 24 January 2018

Actually a very high percentage can't even get past the drawing even though it specifically say in the patent "FOR UNDERSTANDING OF THE FUNCTION" and is in no way the real working device.

Marathonman

Chris posted this 24 January 2018

Hi Marathonman, I am not "ruffled" I am interested in seeing what you have to share. I am back in reading mode now.

Will watch your progress.

   Chris

Marathonman posted this 25 January 2018

B fields or rather magnetic field from a magnet or electromagnet do not magically change direction at any time thus the field is in one direction at ALL TIMES. this is how the pressure is maintained between the electromagnets when one is reduced, the field is not reversing just reducing.  the pressure between them (magnetic fields) is what keeps them separate but by reducing one while the other is increasing the spin direction at the conductor of the reducing electromagnet is reversed ( induced direction) to match that of the rising electromagnet surrounding the secondary with a 100% E field. 

and again it would take to long for the magnetic fields to build up if the electromagnet was taken down to far or to zero thus induction would fall to the rising electromagnet thus breaking coherency between them. this is the very reason why AC can NOT be used in the Figuera device. the primaries are only reduced to just clear the secondary then back up reducing the other side to just clear the secondary thus allows the fields to retain 80 to 90% of their magnetic field maintaining coherency between them.

if you are still having trouble with that visualization picture a sheet of paper between two water glasses. if the pressure is maintained between the two the paper stays but if the pressure between then is not maintained the paper will fall from between them. now picture the glasses moving from side to side in an orderly fashion. if the pressure between them (magnetic field) is maintained the paper stays (induction from both) if the paper falls from between them from pressure to low (week magnetic field pressure) the paper (induction) will surely drop and drop it will to the rising electromagnet.

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Marathonman posted this 25 January 2018

It's all about charge and discharge thus the spin direction is very important . 

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Marathonman posted this 26 January 2018

All the info i have presented to this forum through my posts and graphs can be downloaded and studied at your home. reread the posts and study the graphs intensely and try to visualize what is happening in the parts as the device is in operation. i have provided the winding direction of part G the controller/regulator and the winding direction of the primaries so that and the other info i posted should be enough for people out there to test at their own home at your leisure. using microwave oven transformers is a very good option because they are thrown away quite often even with just a blown fuse. this will lower the initial starting expense and ease the burden on the wallet. using a high power resistor is recommended when testing your primaries  magnetic field strength. Buforn slipped in his patent and mentioned 100 volts @ 1 amp so i would suggest this as a starting point when testing out your primaries and overall operation. even if you use 1 1/2 to 2 amp in your device i see no reason for it to have ill effects as long as the VA rating of part G's core can handle that plus headroom.

Figuera used solid iron cores but the use of laminated core will actually boost the output reducing eddy currants. also remember part G controls the currant NOT the primaries so wind them specifically as electromagnets with the highest magnetic field possible but not to saturation. also remember your output of your secondaries is split between your primaries, meaning if you are shooting for lets say 500 watts output then your primaries are accountable for half that. each primary magnetic field is responsible for 250 watts of energy thus combined supply the 500 watts to the secondary but being the square of the two output it will rise much higher than that.

balance is the whole key to this device, by just taking the reducing electromagnet down to just clear the secondary and back up will maintain the required magnetic field strength to allow the primaries to stay coherent maintaining the output to the secondaries and the load. once the device is operational  and the proper fields are acquired the currant consumption of the device will drop considerably.

I hope what i have presented give the readers a clearer understanding of this device.

Marathonman 

Marathonman posted this 26 January 2018

 

 

In the Continuous Electrical Generator there are no mechanical losses; friction losses; brush losses; windage losses; armature reaction losses; or air gap losses, because there is not any movement of any kind. There are eddy current, heat  and hysteresis losses, which are inherent to the design, construction and the materials of the generator, but in the same extent as in common generators.

A few percent of the total energy produced by present electric generators goes to create their own magnetic field; a mechanical energy that exceeds the total output of present generators is used to make them rotate in the process of extracting electrical currents from them. In the Continuous Electrical Generator there is no need for movement since the field is in fact already rotating electro-magnetically, so all that mechanical energy will not be needed. Under similar conditions of exciting currents, core mass and windings design, the Continuous Electrical Generator is significantly more efficient than present generators, which also means that it can produce significantly more than the energy it needs to operate. The Continuous Electrical Generator can feedback the system, the temporary source may be disconnected and the Generator will run indefinitely.

As with any other generator, the Continuous Electrical Generator may excite its own electromagnetic field with a minimum part of the electrical energy produced. The Continuous Electrical Generator only needs to be started up by connecting its inducting  windings to a DC external source for an instant, and then to be disconnected, to start the system as described herein. Then, disconnected, it will run indefinitely generating a great excess of electric power to the extent of its design.

The Continuous Electrical Generator can be designed and calculated with all mathematical formulas in use today to design and calculate electrical generators and motors. It complies with all of the laws and parameters used to calculate electrical induction and generation of electricity today. thus the exception would be the primaries as they are specifically wound as electromagnets.

Except for the Law of Conservation of Energy, which, by itself, is not a mathematical equation but a theoretical concept and by the same reason does not have any role in the mathematical calculation of an electrical generator of any type, the Continuous Electrical Generator complies with all the Laws of Physics and Electrical Engineering. The Continuous Electrical Generator obligates us to review the Law of Conservation of Energy. In my personal belief, the electricity has never come from the mechanical energy that we put into a machine to move the masses against all oppositions. The mechanical system is actually providing the path for the condensation of electricity. The Continuous Electrical Generator provides a more efficient path for the electricity thus moving the weightless massles field not a huge chunk of iron.

 

The Continuous Electrical Generator is and will be a very simple machine. The keystones of the systems reside in the ultra-low losses of a non-movement generation system.

I couldn't have said it better.

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Marathonman posted this 27 January 2018

Just for the record the full name of Figuera is  Clemente Figuera Ustáriz or D. Clemente FIguera of which i am trying to find out which one is this real name.

 

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Marathonman posted this 27 January 2018

Have been working a lot of hrs as has my room mate and buddy also so i thought i would surprise with a few cases of beer and rent on top.

it's going to be one hell of a week end fellas.

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Marathonman posted this 28 January 2018

 

This is basically what is happening in  the Figuera device 60 times a second or in other countries 50 times a second as the brush rotates on part G. as the primaries are raised and lowered in unison over the secondary. the secondary is not shown but of course it is placed right in the middle to collect the electric field. the primaries are reduced to just clear the secondary then back up while the other side is reduced. in this process the primaries retain 80 to 90% of their magnetic field reducing currant usage to a bare minimum and accelerating the E field to maximum.  in this process of raising and lowering of the primaries the reducing primary has a reverse spin at the conductor causing both primary E fields to be coherent..... ie,  in the same direction and in complete unison all while maintaining pressure between them.

to many beers (two cases gone) and not enough aspirins i think it's time to crash.

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Marathonman posted this 29 January 2018

Here is the output of the secondary in relation to the brush position on part G thus the currant flow through the primaries.

 

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Marathonman posted this 30 January 2018

In regards to that last post i posted a pic of the patent but one must remember the depiction of part G is NOT what it seems. the patent specifically states it is just a drawing for the understanding of the function of the device thus is NOT the real device as so many on you tube seem to think. at the turn of the century (1900)  resistors and diodes were not even made yet so what were the options for resistance of currant. one was the use of resistance in the form of wire resistance thus still used today along with resistors which is very, very wasteful dissipating energy in the form of heat or two the use of a magnetic field to block the currant in one direction and allowing to flow in the other. in the latter almost zero energy is lost in the process with the added benefit of the ability to store energy in the form of a magnetic field. this stored magnetic field can also be used to curtail currant from the resistance of the magnetic field on the charge as it flows. since a magnetic field is like the brakes on a car it can be used to very the currant in a timely fashion in which Figuera used in part G to control currant flow. the extra benefit of storing energy in a magnetic field is when the currant is reduced energy is released into the system acting as a very short term battery feeding the system along with the reducing primary electromagnet being shoved out of the secondary thus two forms of power giving an amplification to the rising electromagnet.  part G which is a large inductor with opposing fields at the brush keeps both sides of the inductor separate but as the brush rotates it adds or subtracts winding's that magnetically link or unlink to the system sides that are directly connected to the primary electromagnets thus causing an orderly rise or fall of currant. the electromagnet that is increasing will store a magnetic field in part G for the next half rotation and the electromagnet that is decreasing will release energy into the system in part G  for the rising electromagnet giving it a boost.

if you think about it why in the world would someone put very thick commutator bars on a cylinder then connect it with little thin wires ? i am sorry but that is just plain ridiculous notion or thought. what is the best place to control currant and that would be within the wires or between them. using a magnetic field with reverse emf to oppose the original currant flow was sheer genius on Figuera's part. with a steady supply of currant and the change of the inductor length as the brush rotates adding or subtracting winding's magnetically linking or unlinking to the system (increasing or decreasing BEMF)  will cause an orderly rise and fall of currant and this very fact can not be found in NO college text book. the use of an inductor dynamically.

 

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Marathonman posted this 30 January 2018

 

 

Here is another graph to wet your willy. i have corrected the post as the spin directions of N and S are in the same direction but when looking at the face of the magnet both induced currants will be different directions thus can not be used in the Figuera device. well it is just my two cents worth referring to my video you will get a better understanding of why NS can NOT be used

if you notice i have Lorentz name crossed out because Maxwell had the same equation in his notes when Lorentz was 8 years old so NO it is not the Lorentz force it is the Maxwell's force equation.

things that make you go Hummmmm !

 

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Marathonman posted this 31 January 2018

Sure is a big difference between a massive block of iron spinning and one that is not, by aligning the core up at all times allows a much higher output with very little losses. graphs are just for shits and grins but give one a visual comparison of the two systems.

 

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Marathonman posted this 01 February 2018

Inductance is a property of an electrical conductor which opposes a change in current. It does that by storing and releasing energy from a magnetic field surrounding the conductor when current flows, according to Faraday's law of induction. When current rises, energy (as magnetic flux) is stored in the field, reducing the current and causing a drop in potential (i.e, a voltage) across the conductor; when current falls, energy is released from the field supplying current and causing a rise in potential across the conductor. 

These effects are derived from two fundamental observations of physics: a steady current creates a steady magnetic field described by Oersted's law and a time-varying magnetic field induces an electromotive force (EMF) in nearby conductors, which is described by Faraday's law of induction.  According to Lenz's law a changing electric current through a circuit that contains inductance induces a proportional voltage, which opposes the change in current (self-inductance).

A current  flowing through a conductor generates a magnetic field around the conductor, which is described by Ampere's circuital law. The total magnetic flux through a circuit  is equal to the product of the magnetic field and the area of the surface spanning the current path. If the current varies, the magnetic flux through the circuit changes. By Faraday's law of induction, any change in flux through a circuit induces an electromotive force (EMF) or voltage  v in the circuit, proportional to the rate of change of flux.  thus the surface area in the circuit path in Figuera part G changes dynamically as the brush rotates varying the currant on both sides of the brush since the north opposing fields keep them separate they will act as two independent inductors but in complete unison.

The negative sign in the equation indicates that the induced voltage is in a direction which opposes the change in current that created it; this is called Lenz's law. The potential is therefore called a back EMF. If the current is increasing, the voltage is positive at the end of the conductor through which the current enters and negative at the end through which it leaves, tending to reduce the current. If the current is decreasing, the voltage is positive at the end through which the current leaves the conductor, tending to maintain the current. Self-inductance, usually just called inductance,  is the ratio between the induced voltage and the rate of change of the current. in the Figuera part G we actually have no pole reversal as the opposing magnetic field keeps them separate but the process is still taking place as currant in an inductor when releasing will always travel in the original direction to maintain currant flow.

So therefore inductance is also proportional to how much energy is stored in the magnetic field for a given current. This energy is stored as long as the current remains constant. If the current decreases, the magnetic field will decrease, inducing a voltage in the conductor in the opposite direction, negative at the end through which current enters and positive at the end through which it leaves. This will return stored magnetic energy to the external circuit in which can be considered as a short term battery feeding the system each half rotation of the brush.

a variable Y (Currant) is said to increase or decrease linearly with another variable X (Magnetic Field)  if every increase or decrease of a fixed amount in X (Windings and Core Material)  results in another fixed increase or decrease in Y. In terms of a graph, the relationship is a straight line of currant increase or decease.

If y tends to increase linearly as x decreases, the variables are linearly correlated.  If y tends to decrease linearly as x increases, the variables are linearly correlated.

When an inductor operates in continuous mode, as in the Figuera device, the current through the inductor never falls to zero just like the primaries. a certain amount of field is always present as reducing this magnetic field to zero will take to long to build up thus induction in the primaries would loose coherency reducing the output to the rising electromagnet. since the whole objective is an orderly rise and fall of a specific amount of currant the inductor is only reduced to get the reducing electromagnet to clear the secondary then increase as the other side is reduced.

Inductance, L is actually a measure of an inductors “resistance” to the change of the current flowing through the circuit and the larger is its value in Henries, the lower will be the rate of current flow. thus in the Figuera part G we have a constant rise and fall of magnetic resistance which correlates to a steady rise and fall of currant flow in the primaries.

 again feel free to ask any questions that come to mind.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 01 February 2018

 

The Y is a reference to a space with out movement of it's own having two fields move over the space. The force between the two fields pushing against each other is the analog form of using one high intensity field being rotated with a physical core.  the force between the two increases the lines of the fields which determines the amount of induction as each of the two fields are shifted to cover the Y as the other retreats without losing the overall force between the two fields. If ether of the two fields collapse to much the compression of the two is lost and the output will fall off to the rising electromagnet. this very fact is the reason why the coherency between the primaries needs to be maintained as the loss of compression results in loss of E field coherency between the primaries thus reduced induction.

here is a tidbit on transformers and generators.

Transformers only use a single field to which it is converted up or down or used to isolate the mains from the load in case of a short on the load side. thus the primary are susceptible to Hysteresis and Eddy currants from the secondary.

A generator using the field, increases it's field strength by using the output to feed back into the field to generate more output until it is generating more output then the combined load of the field and the working external circuit. since the secondary (rotor) is swept through the magnetic field of the primary (Stator) the Hysteresis and Eddy currants in the primaries are nonexistent but are in the secondary and then the lenz law rear's it's ugly head.

I hope this can ring true for the readers.

 

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 02 February 2018

Statement from (sparky) Floyd Sweet

" Why the field of a magnet is not the property of the magnet: First the electromagnet – it takes power from a source to initiate and bring to steady state the field of the magnet. Once the field is stabilised and the exciting current is no longer changing, no further power is needed from the source. The only power required is that needed to support the I2R losses due to the ohmic resistance of the conductor comprising the coil of the magnet. This loss appears as heat.

Now we have a magnetic field, a potential source of energy in existence without support of the source of power to the coil. True, the moving charges through the copper conductor are accompanied by a magnetic field, also true this field requires no power from the source. As stated, the only power is that supporting the I2R losses. Then the field due to the moving charges is not a property of the current drawn from the source but a property of incoherent energy quanta in the surrounding space interacting coherently with fields produced by moving charges on the electrons in motion through the coil."

 

This very statement from a master tells me what i have been saying for quite some time now, aside from the power used to initialize the polarization of the secondary and the initialization of the primary fields brought to a steady state,  very little power is used in the process of sweeping the fields across the secondary.   once brought to a steady state,  currant will pass as though it was a straight piece of wire as the magnetic field intensity are at their highest point thus the only currant used is in the replacement of the reduced primary magnetic field to full state which is small as they retain 80 to 90% of their magnetic field and losses from which is replaced by the secondary loop back. at no time is power used in the excitation of the primaries transferred to the secondaries except for the initial polarization of the secondary thus the two systems part ways  and the primaries become the motive force that exerts motion onto Y provided Y is a closed circuit with resistance of it's own. 

Since a Magnetic Field Changing in Time is a requirement for Electromagnetic Induction we have the Figuera device doing just that, two independent electromagnets decreasing and increasing just enough to clear the secondary both opposing but the E fields acting as one field. these bucking field are the exact thing Chris is working on except the fact that Chris is completely reducing a primary and in the Figuera device we are not.

thus the change in the field no matter how small will produce induction and since we are using two electromagnets in unison we end up with square of the two or four times the output.

Figuera had the device working in his house and supposably it was fairly small yet put out a fantastic amount of power near 20 kilowatts.

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Marathonman posted this 04 February 2018

Confusion, Confusion and more Confusion.

It seams their is some confusion about the patent wording. in the patent it says when one electromagnet is full the other is empty. while this is all fine and dandy in reality it can not happen and here is why.

if the whole objective is to get the highest possible inductance to the secondary from the primaries then why would someone reduce a primary so low that induction is lost. by reducing a primary to zero the pressure is lost between the primaries thus inductance is substantially reduce to just the rising electromagnet. if in the process of reducing the electromagnet to just clear the secondary then back up again to peak potential you will retain 80 to 90% of the magnetic field that is being used to induce the secondary in which will require much less currant to bring the electromagnet back to full potential.

if in the process of reduction the electromagnet is reduced passed half way or to zero the time it takes to bring the magnetic field to full potential is far grater than the time it takes to just reduce it to 80 to 90 %. this is the main reason why AC can not be used as induction is lost from the speed of the rising electromagnet being to slow since it has to overcome the resistance of the wire plus the flipping of the magnetic domains . since the whole objective is induction to the secondary why would you reduce it to zero when you don't have to thus keeping the fields at maximum potential equates to the highest output possible. even in the process of reducing and increasing the electromagnet very little you will still get induction as per Faraday and Maxwell equations but since the electromagnetic fields are at their maximum so will be the induction. thus the output of the Figuera device will be many orders of magnitude higher than that of a standard generator.

since complete unison of the primaries is required in the Figuera device he came up with a solution to not only keep the primaries in unison but to also reuse the power running through it. part G the controller regulator is an inductor being like a cross between a magamp and a variac. when the brush rotates around the core each side of the brush will act as independent inductors adding or subtracting winding's that are magnetically linking to the circuit. as the individual magnetic fields rise and fall, currant will be reduced or increased from the magnetic field opposition. bemf from this field reduces currant flow so as more winding's are added to the circuit more currant reduction takes place thus the reverse is happening on the other side of the brush as less winding's equate to less opposition to currant flow.

in the process of reducing the primaries being pushed out of the secondaries, a EMF is produced and fed into part G thus combining with the reducing inductor EMF will cause an amplification to the rising electromagnet. since the the rising side of the inductor is storing a magnetic field for the next half cycle of reduction there will be a drop in potential across the inductor thus the two previous mentioned sources of potential will cause an increased potential to the rising electromagnet offsetting the drop.

since the part G controls the currant why would anyone wind the primaries to have resistance high enough to control currant when that is the job of part G. by winding the electromagnets specifically as electromagnets will allow them to achieve their intended goal to produce a magnetic field. the added bonus of winding them this way is the response time of the electromagnets are increased substantially from lower resistance and self inductance allowing them to respond to the rise and fall of currant in a timely manor.

 

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Marathonman posted this 05 February 2018

Another problem people are having as i once did is the amount of windings on part G. the whole key to currant reduction is the magnetic interaction with the winding next to it that is the cause of self induction in the first place ie (magnetic linking). one person used 20 to 40 winds on his part G and stated that that will not work period. so months later after i was tagged as missinformed,  latter to only find out the winding count was way, way to low to oppose the currant in the first place. 

the whole reason people are not getting good output is the fact that they are either not keeping their primaries in sink, reducing them to far or not reducing them enough which is the most logical issue and cause. in the picture above the top graph is where most people are reducing their primaries shown in RED. by reducing to little you are not utilizing enough of the secondary exposing to little of the E field and this will cause extremely reduced output. the bottom graph is the ideal area shown in BLUE that will create an E field that spans the entire secondary. you must sweep your primaries with enough reduction in currant to clear the secondary then back up to full potential otherwise you will get squat for an output.

this is one of the keys in getting a proper output and miss matched primaries are another as they need to be mirror images of each other for balance.

 

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Marathonman posted this 06 February 2018

In a standard generator you have the power (DC) to the inducers on at all times in which you would think it uses a lot of power but if you did you would be mistaken. as per the post on Sparky Sweet once the field of the electromagnet is brought up to working conditions the currant to the inducers just passes by as if it were a straight piece of wire. this is because once the field is established, it can not hold any more in the field per the amount of currant so the currant draw on the inducers is reduced to that of just the IR2 losses from the wire to maintain the field needed. since there is residual magnetism in the inducers it does not require flashing of the inducers to get a magnetic field to produce power once rotated. rotating the rotor through the magnetic fields causes a increase and decrease of magnetic flux as per Faraday's laws of induction.

In the Figuers device we have the exact same thing except the flashing has to take place every time it is shut off and restarted.  again once the field of the inducers are brought up to working conditions the power used to create the magnetic field is reduced to the currant used to maintain the magnetic field which is the IR2 losses.

since we do not have a rotating rotor how are we to get motion into the secondary when the secondary and the primaries are stationary. you move the magnetic field presented to the secondaries which causes induction as per Faraday's laws of induction. by manipulating the currant in the primary you cause the magnetic field to increase then decrease in strength which is the exact very thing as a standard generator. the only difference is once the secondary creates a opposing field to the first there is no way to bring it back to the other side once you push the opposing field across the E field. so Figuera put another inducer on the opposite side of the secondary to push that field back across the E field to the opposite side of the secondary. in doing said action one of the primaries has to be reduced and one increased to get full motion across the secondary but in doing so the reducing primaries E field is reversed to match that of the rising electromagnets E field causing the square of the two or four time the output.

you only reduce the primary to just clear the secondary then back up to full potential reducing the opposite primary at the same time. by keeping the primaries in complete unison the power from the output will rise very rapidly producing a substantial amount of power from a small device. this operation uses very little power to fluctuate the field back and fourth just like a standard generator except the fact that in the standard geny you are rotating a HUGE mass of iron through the north and south fields with MASSIVE LENZING EFFECT and in the Figuera device you are fluctuating the weightless massless field back and fourth only replacing the power of the reducing electromagnet to full potential which is very minute plus standard losses from wire and heat.

so on that note i will leave it to your imagination as to which one produces the most output compared to it's required input.

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Marathonman posted this 06 February 2018

If the readers want to try the Figuera concept in the video at the start of this post i have some suggestion that can be performed at your home to prove the validity of the opposing fields.

Take a magnet and glue or tape it securely it to a paint stick then tape that stick to a sawzall or any reciprocating device. take a small coil mounted to another stick or what ever you have and place it to be non moving. with a galvanometer attached to your coil reciprocate the magnet about one to two inches from the coil recording the output. now take the other magnet and attach it to the other side of the magnet leaving room so the reciprocating action does not hit the coil. with two opposing magnets reciprocating it then record your output. you will find that you have twice the deflection as one magnet a lone.

you can even use two electromagnets attached to the same stick with the same output.

in your efforts you just duplicated the Figuera device and the William Hooper table top experiment he did in front of many, many people proving the validity of the opposing magnetic fields.

Congratulation your on your way to building the Figuera device. thus are light years ahead of most sites.

 

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norman6538 posted this 07 February 2018

I did Marathonman's Test 1 and got very little current and the same for test 2. I suspect some coil/magnet geometry problems and will increase the repelling magnets gap to 1/2 in from 1/8 so it will be about the same as the coil width so the same pole is approaching the coil and also leaving the coil out the other side.  I will be pushing the magnets through the coil hole so its more like the Figuera configuration instead of pushing the past the cored coil. I use black silicone seal to hold the magnets and that takes a good 12 hrs to hold. Hot glue will not hold the repelling magnets. I am using 3/4 ceramic magnets.

 

Anybody else get some better results?

 

I tested the wider gap between repelling magnets and did not get a greater current.

Now what?

 

Norman

Marathonman posted this 07 February 2018

I to had the same problems when i tried it. after a few tries i figured it was a geometry problem also but with the magnetic fields not the magnet or coil it's self.  i soon realized that the magnetic field of a magnet will not extend past the actual length of the magnet itself. so i took my field pole tester and measured out until the light on the tester went out and low and behold the field was as long as the magnet it self. so i adjusted the magnets accordingly to act as that of the Figuera device just clearing the coil the back to the other side and this was a success. double of that of a single magnet.

 

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Marathonman posted this 07 February 2018

Another thing to consider is there has to be compression at the collision point of the magnetic fields where the magnetic field lines have to be compressed. i found that using small magnets i was not able to do this so i ordered 1x2 neo's to preform the test with much better results. since the extension of the magnetic field from the magnet was two inches per magnet i was able to adjust with proper compression and still had room to play with.

 

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norman6538 posted this 07 February 2018

Could you describe the physical movement that you used for the test. Most people pass a magnet over one of the core ends...And when you do that you will get one voltage polarity as they approach each other and another when they leave each other. But I chose to pass my magnet through the coil and you get the same voltage polarity approaching and leaving as in passing the core.

Mechanically going through the coil does not make a generator. Were it not for my such experiments I would not understand this at all.

Now picture a magnet being flipped so that N goes in and gets flipped so that N also comes out which means the coil voltage polarity does not get flipped....Figuera did that so that he got the same polarity  approaching and leaving instead of switched polarity. But I am not sure about the current doubling. My test will show that when the glue dries over night.

Norman

 

 

 

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Marathonman posted this 07 February 2018

The coil in a standard generator passes through a magnetic field and it never gets the electromagnet shoved into it so i don't see where you are coming from.

In the Figuera device the magnetic field is outside of the primary core so all induction is taking place in the secondary where both primary field are colliding. there is no need to stick the magnet into the coil as that tells me your magnets might be to small or to week for the test.

Figuera did not flip a thing, he simply used two opposing magnetic fields and varied their currant up and down with the secondary in between them.

The amount of pressure between the magnets or electromagnets is directly related to the amount of output you will get.

 

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Marathonman posted this 08 February 2018

From a trusted source it was calculated that the pressure between the primaries to be at 14.8 lb per 1 kilowatt of output then that output can be divided between how ever many sets you have or want to work with or the pressure you are comfortable in working with.

meaning the pressure between the primary magnetic fields is related to the amount of line of force present between the both of them which  directly correlate to the intensity of the E field presented to the secondary remembering both primaries add up to the output you are shooting for from your secondaries.

 

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Marathonman posted this 11 February 2018

It is very crucial to maintain the pressure between the primaries as both contribute half of the required field presented to the secondary. the amount of pressure between the primaries is the same as a high intensity field of a standard geny so if the field pressure drops so does the output. if the pressure between the primaries are increased so does the field line as they are compressed together and as such when the electromagnet that is reducing the E field is reversed to match that of the rising electromagnet.  the amount of field lines is directly related to the intensity of the E field presented to the secondary.

if you do not reduce your primaries enough the E field presented to the secondaries will be small thus the output will also be small. if you reduce the primaries to much the pressure between them will drop to low and the output will drop to that of just the rising electromagnet.

as you see it is very crucial to just reduce the primaries to just clear the secondary as the other is rising as that will maintain the required pressure between them all while retaining 80 to 90 % the overall magnetic field thus requires much less currant to maintain the magnetic fields as opposed to taking them down to zero.  which will require much more currant and the time it takes to build up the field plowing through the resistance and flipping the magnetic domains.

 

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Marathonman posted this 12 February 2018

If you look at the chart you will see that the lines of force required for 14.8 lbs per kilowatt is near 32,500 lines per square inch. i just added the chart so you can see that the pressure required between the electromagnet is quite intense and precautions should be taken when testing.

at 14.8 lbs per kilowatt X 1500 watts is 1.5 x 14.8 = 22.2 lbs of force divided by 4 primaries = 5.55 lbs of force per primary so according to the chart that is around 20,000 lines per square inch of force per primary.

in my set up i have two core pairs so each of my primaries are accountable for 5.55 lbs of force presented to the secondary and each of my secondaries will output 750 watts for a combined total of 1500 watts.

you can divide the output to how ever many cores you have or the pressure you feel comfortable in working with.

Marathonman

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Marathonman posted this 12 February 2018

There are many reasons why Figuera separated the primaries from the secondaries and one of them is Hysteresis and Eddy currants.

the secondary outputting AC will be effected by those conditions and as a result would be a good idea to use lamination's to reduce these effects. the primary on the other hand is not effected by Hysteresis and Eddy currants as they are using DC to excite them and at no time are they reversed like the secondary. that is another reason why AC can not be used to excite the primaries. that and the fact it would take to long for the magnetic field to build up to full potential plowing through the resistance and flipping all the magnetic domains. induction would be lost from that primary thus the output would drop to the rising electromagnet.

since the primaries are just reduced in pressure to clear the secondary then back up to full potential there is no reversal of currant so there is no Hysteresis or Eddies to contend with. so by being butted up against the secondary there is little losses in magnetic field being transferred to the secondary.

another reason that that the secondaries do NOT influence the primaries in any way is the field of the primaries are in a space outside of the primary core occupied by the secondary core and it is this very fact that confuses many people that correlate this device with transformers and transformer equations. i hate to tell you this but if you do you would be incorrect. with both primaries having their own core with the secondary sandwiched in the middle Figuera eliminated the influence of the secondary to the primaries thus reducing Hysteresis and Eddies to a negligible amount.

this allows the primaries to do there intended job of being Electromagnets and the secondaries to do their job of outputting power.

in the process of reducing the primaries and being shoved out of the core at the same time from the rising electromagnet, currant is produced in the reducing primary. even though the primary is only reducing the wire see's it as reversing and produces EMF and it is this EMF that is shoved into Part G to combine with the reducing side of the inductor that is releasing the EMF from the reducing magnetic field causing an amplification from both sources off setting the rising side of part G inductor's potential drop. thus a amplified potential is presented to the rising electromagnet giving it an added boost.

each time part G rotates we have and orderly rise and fall of the inductor on both sides of the brush, one rising and one reducing in one half and in the other half the reverse takes place.  each time the reducing half is reducing it along with the reducing primary's EMF produced off set that rising side of the inductor's potential drop. in the next half rotation the rising side is reducing and the reducing side is rising.

so we end up with the primaries and part G inductor's on either side of the brush having an orderly rise and fall of currant storing and releasing their magnetic fields to counter act the potential drop and at no time is the fields ever depleted just reduced to 80 to 90 % of their full potential.

so as you can see and read, part G would be VERY, VERY hard to replace with electronics as it's functions are many thus the device would be useless without it.

 

 

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 13 February 2018

Just like the person that shared quite a lot of info to me years ago I to am having problems with the balancing of part G. in a continuous wind around a toroid it seams it was a lot harder than i have anticipated  and i might have to go to plan B. it is working fine except getting the primaries just right has been a chore to say the least and i am getting quite aggravated spending a month trying to balance it.

since the original more than likely used something that was made from Ziess or rather his partner Abby was likely an E core of some type. since i can not find an E core with a wide enough center leg i have a very good idea to simplify the building of part G to make it easier for everyone that is building or experimenting with the Figuera device.

Below is what i have envisioned, a C core cut not in half but length wise to get the flat top i so need for the smooth operation of the brush. by making the C core 6 or so inches wide and long it will make the winding and balancing MUCH, MUCH easier and can be assembled in one day then ground flat the next. it will still be a closed core just like Figuera did but much easier to make.

i will be working on this very shortly as i have already contacted my supplier i work with and it can be made with no problem. i will be using square wire so i do not have to grind very little to get a true flat surface for the brush contact.

i will still be working on the other one i have but i anticipate this one to be much better for future builds.

 

 

Marathonman

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Marathonman posted this 14 February 2018

A standard Generator;

 

As the requirements for larger scale power generation increased, a new limitation rose: the magnetic fields available from permanent magnets. Diverting a small amount of the power generated by the generator to an electromagnetic field coil allowed the generator to produce substantially more power. This concept was dubbed self-excitation. 

The field coils are connected in series or parallel with the armature winding. When the generator first starts to turn, the small amount of remanent magnetism (ie Polarization)  present in the iron core provides a magnetic field to get it started, generating a small current in the armature. This flows through the field coils, creating a larger magnetic field which generates a larger armature current. This "bootstrap" process continues until the magnetic field in the core levels off due to saturation and the generator reaches a steady state power output.

as you can see the residual magnetization left in the field coils is already polarized ie. a North Field and a South Field thus can immediately start producing power and as it says a SMALL amount of it's output is used to further excite the field coils until the Generator is producing more power than the field coils and the load combined. this power used to excite the field coils is RIDICULOUSLY small compared to it's output and once the field is up to running conditions the power used to maintain the fields is the I2R losses according to Sparky Sweet, in which we already know was extremely gifted and educated.

In the Figuera device we have the EXACT same thing happening except the fact that the Flashing (polarization) has to take place every time it is started. once the field coils and part G's fields are up to running conditions the power to maintain the field magnets are reduced to that of just the I2R losses just like a standard generator.

since a standard generator uses two fields (N & S) and rotates through them from low high low of the North then low high low of the South in the Figuera device we need some way to get the same conditions in the field coils and that is where part G comes into play.

by using self inductance of the coils on the core of part G we get reverse induced voltage to counter act the incoming currant thus reducing the currant flow through the field coils allowing us to shift the fields of the field coils back and fourth. with the North North opposing fields in part G at the positive brush Figuera was able to keep both side of the inductor independent while keeping each side in complete unison. as the brush rotated winding loops were added or subtracted magnetically linking or unlinking to the circuit which allowed each side of the brush to increase or decrease the currant flow through the primary field coils thus sweeping the fields back and fourth over the secondary maintaining the required pressures between them.

once the secondary is polarized from the primaries ( just like in a squirrel cage motor) the primaries and the secondaries part ways and the primaries are the motive force that exerts motion into the secondaries. at that time the two systems are maintaining them self independently and at no time is the power in the excitation of the primaries used in the output of the secondary and the load aside from the small portion of the output used in maintaining the field through excitation and losses just like that of a standard generator.

Always remember Transformers Transform up, down or isolate both sides remaining equal minus losses.

Generators Generate both sides NOT EQUAL.

Imagine that !

 

 

 

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 14 February 2018

I can EXPLAIN it to YOU but i can't UNDERSTAND for you.

That is your job through experimenting which will lead you to learning and understanding.

learning is not through osmosis but through experimenting.

ACTION !

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 15 February 2018

As you can read from the description of a standard Generator that if it wasn't for the Lenz effect (Cogging) a standard Generator would be an OU device. the massive chunk of iron being pulled back into register from the Lenz effect when currant is being drawn is astronomical to say the least and takes way, way more power to rotate it than it puts out so what we are left with is an inefficient poison farting machine that cost to much to run and destroys our environment.

this spell cast from the status quo has remained for 150 years and it is time to break that spell and crush it into the ground.

The Figuera device is rather simple to make, runs nearly silent and best of all after being started requires NO outside power and saves our environment from the TOXIC WASTE spewed from the present day machines. since it it not connected to the failing grid that those Morons want US to pay for while they rake in the money, you will never have a power outage again,

he had this device running in his house in Barcelona Spain and most likely in the Canary Island's also. plus back then YOU HAD TO HAVE A WORKING DEVICE TO PATENT IT unlike today you can patent a French fart if it smells different.

I see people are trying to over complicate this device from the description of the patent but the truth be told this device is rather simple but the patent is VERY, VERY confusing and was worded that way to ward of the banksters from hiding it completely like most of them they get there hands on.

I hope in my efforts i have described the device in a understandable way. i know i have brought up a few functions many, many times but all i was trying to do is word it a little different since not everyone understands at the same level or description. thus my goal is to get this info out to the masses to let people know that not only have we been lied to for over 150 years but that we do NOT have to live like we are now.

we are the only creature on this planet that has to pay some other greedy jack ass to live and I for one find this VERY, VERY DISTURBING on many levels. Michael Tellinger has a lot of wonderful things to say and I for one agree with him as i know we can live in a society where we ALL chip in for the good of the whole where crime will be a thing of the past and all our needs are taken care of with the ability to explore everyone of your talents or desires all by chipping in a few hours a day. we are heading down a one way dead end street lead by CORRUPT GOVERNMENTS and GREEDY OUT OF CONTROL CORPORATIONS that think of us as expendable dollar signs in there disgusting lust for power and control.

we the people of this world can NO LONGER sit by in idle and watch them destroy us and this world so GET OFF YOUR BUTTS AND BUILD THIS DEVICE or at least spread the info i have provided.

your very survival may depend on it in the very, very near future. exposing this information to your children is the up most priority as they may well be the generation to lead humanity to a new frontier in the evolution and survival of the human race.

 Like i said stay with the present control of enslavement or stand up and make a difference.

IT"S ALL UP TO YOU !

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Marathonman posted this 16 February 2018

 

Again i can not emphasize the importance of reading and understanding the patent using the tools and know how of that time frame of the turn of the century.

in the patent it specifically says and I Quote, " To fix ideas is convenient to refer to the attached drawing which is no more than a sketch to understand the operation of the machine built using the principals  outline before."

and

" Let be "R" a resistance that is drawn in an elementary manor to facilitate the comprehension of the entire system." end Quote.

so if it is just a drawing for understanding of the system and the resistance is in it's complete elementary form then thinking of that time frame this really reduces the outcome of the possible uses he used and implemented in his device.

IF R has some resistance but is NOT a resistor as stated in the patent of just some resistance then how could someone reduce the currant without using resistors that waste power like no tomorrow through heat then we are left with ONLY ONE LOGICAL OUTCOME and that is magnetic resistance. 

very few used this technic to manipulate currant and Tesla was one of them. Figuera on the other hand figured out that by putting winding's on a iron core (Amplifying self Inductance) with a rotating positive brush he could split the feed into two and manipulate each side of the brush keeping them completely separate with north opposing fields and vary their currant in absolute unison. this allowed Figuera to get his primaries a very orderly rise and fall of currant presented to them and maintaining the required pressure for a specific output.

as i have outlined from previous post the pressure between the primaries is directly related to the number of field lines thus the intensity of the E field presented to the secondaries. if this pressure is not maintained between the primaries the induction will fall to that of just the rising electromagnet.

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Marathonman posted this 18 February 2018

quote;

"Basically part G is a rotating variac on a closed core (Inductor) .The magnetic field in the core is pushed side to side providing the resistance in the form of reluctance or self inductance. The collapsing portion of the inducer declining being shoved out of the secondary will return the reducing portion to the core of part G adding to the field in that part of the core or conserving it if you wish to view it that way. Diodes will prevent the return of the energy back into the system in turn it will never self operate if every time the machine makes a full cycle it has to provide all the energy again from the source. That's no different then a normal transformer, Which even that uses the flux in the core to limit the current used from it's source.

After the field is established with no load the field is pushing back and forth against itself only the amount of current absorbed as losses to heat and I2R is replaced from the secondary in each cycle, part of the heat is produced in the core at the moving bloch wall. In Figuera's scheme the inducers are not connected cores so the block wall is just a point outside the  inducer magnetic cores and no heat loss in the magnets by a bloch wall inside the magnets secondary core. As the loads increase on the output  resistance in the portion of the external circuit goes down and more current flows increasing the potential which increases the potential on the portion being returned to the beginning where the source is connected to part G  Increasing the amount of power passing through part G to the field magnets and being stored in the field of the core of Part G." 

This is exactly what is taking place in the Figuera device.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 19 February 2018

I think this graph will help people understand what is taking place and why the Circular E field is circulating around the secondary.

study the graph and the relationship or orientation of the Magnetic fields to the Electric fields then apply to this device or the device you are working on.

Magnetic fields cut the wire Electric fields follow along the wire.

since the Electric fluid travels on the outside of the wire it seams that there can be no resistance from the wire but from the magnetic field causing drag on the moving charges themselves.

so therefore the Figuera device part G should make much more sense to you that a magnetic field is used to control currant.

Marathonman

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Marathonman posted this 21 February 2018

I surely hope no one out there is following PJK video or using any of his advice as he is a total train wreck when it comes to the workings of the Figuera device and the info he posts is laughable at best.

while i do applaud his efforts in his fine collection of apparent free energy devices he know NOTHING about the operation of the Figuera device and it's totally obvious he knows nothing about magnetic resistance.

i have laid out in good detail the real functions and operation of the Figuera device backing it up with Physics that can not be disputed. i'll give the satisfaction of the argument about the resistance of the wire as that does take a rather large leap of faith but all the other information i have presented has been researched for many, many years with test performed at my own home not relying on other person hearsay. there is a working device here in the United states but that person is hell bent on keeping it to himself reducing posts to cryptic garb that 98 % can not understand or are not able to read between the lines.

i try to explain the device as well as i can and i share any and all the information i have learned through my research that i have performed with the public through forums and youtube. my hope or rather my intention is to spread as much information as i can about this device to as many people as i can so when shit hits the fan (and it's coming) that people around the world will be able to build this device and hopefully be the pioneers to lead mankind into a new frontier out of the devastation the corrupt Governments and the World Corporate slugs have lead us into.

in the very near future food will be scarce so it will be up to families, individuals to grow their own food, heat their own houses and provide electricity for themselves. if not for devices like this and the two others i have mentioned that will not take place and people will die.

Corporate world and our Government do not have OUR BEST INTEREST and are hell bent to destroy and control us so it BEHOVES YOU to download all info from these devices and spread that information with everyone you know.

the more that knows about these devices the less likely they will be able to rid this information from the minds of the people. ignorance leads you to Government and Corporate control while intelligence will set you free and it is up to the people of this world to stand up, tell these Murderers NO ! we are in charge of our lives NOT YOU.

The Figuera device WAS and IS a REAL device that he had in his home in the Canary Islands and Barcelona Spain. is not a pipe dream sold in books like Energetic and OU do. everyone of those so called free energy researchers do NOT HAVE ONE SINGLE FREE ENERGY DEVICE BUILT thus are preying on the uninformed raping them of their hard earned money selling NOTHING but pipe dreams and trinkets. the people that have exposed these ruthless pieces of crap as being a fraud were immediately barred from the forums to protect there cash cow fraudulent claims.

I don't want your money, all i want you to do is build this device and be free of the shackles of bondage place on us by crooked, murdering, greedy Corporate Controlled Government thugs.

I like Chris post freely,  real Empirical data backed by solid research.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 21 February 2018

Just like the movie the Matrix.

 

I can only show you the door, it is you that has to walk through it.

 

i can post all the info i have gathered through my research and even if it was sent to you directly from God himself  it doesn't amount to a hill of beans if you are not willing to build it  or do the research yourselves to find out how this device works.

sitting in a movie theater watching a good movie is exciting but it does not tell me how the movie was made.

I had a really evil and cheep father and to this day i still dislike him but the lesson he taught me was invaluable. he said if i wanted a bicycle i had to get a job and buy it. well since i was in the fourth grade there was no way i could get a job as most people do not take a nine year old seriously so i began to acquire bicycle parts from the dump. over the next month i had so many parts i built my own bicycle and painted it myself. i was so proud of my accomplishments but the fact of the matter was i had no clue how to build or repair a bicycle until i jumped in with both feet. sure i messed things up but eventually i got it right and was peddling my ass off with the rest of the kids on the block.

soon after that all the kids in the block came to me to repair their bicycle because they could not and their parents were pissed they tore it up.

long story short don't under underestimate your abilities to build something as the biggest hurdle to your accomplishments is YOU.

this site has a wealth of information and is free for the taking and all that is required is that you build it, prove it , then show it, to the rest of the world. then when you are done drop a line and say thanks for the true path.

 

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 22 February 2018

 

Here is another view of the vector fields in relation to each other always 90 degrees from them selves.

second pic is the circular E Field around the secondary.

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Marathonman posted this 26 February 2018

By the time the true direction of electron flow was discovered, the nomenclature of “positive” and “negative” had already been so well established in the scientific community that no effort was made to change it, although calling electrons “positive” would make more sense in referring to “excess” charge. You see, the terms “positive” and “negative” are human inventions, and as such have no absolute meaning beyond our own conventions of language and scientific description. Franklin could have just as easily referred to a surplus of charge as “black” and a deficiency as “white,” in which case scientists would speak of electrons having a “white” charge (assuming the same incorrect conjecture of charge position between wax and wool).

He also discovered that only one of these charges can move while the other is stationary. He didn't know which so he made a guess and said the current flow from + to - which he had a 50/50 chance and got it wrong. Then in 1900, J.J. Thompson discovered an electron and proved electrons are negative and that they flow to a positive charge. In reality, - flow to + Physicists use: - flow to + Engineeers use: + flow to -.

Why engineers use a wrong assumption? Becuase during 1900's they didn't change their textbooks. So we are stuck with a wrong convection current. 

However, because we tend to associate the word “positive” with “surplus” and “negative” with “deficiency,” the standard label for electron charge does seem backward. Because of this, many engineers decided to retain the old concept of electricity with “positive” referring to a surplus of charge, and label charge flow (current) accordingly. This became known as conventional flow notation:

yes i do agree that the pressure flow is from - to + but i personally do not believe there is such a thing as positive or negative charged particles anywhere in our universe as i do believe in a few things Ken Wheeler says and that is eather pressure modalities. the so called negative is actual charging to a higher pressure potential (counter space) creating heat and positive is radiative discharging (Space) to less pressure which is radiated to cold in an never ending cycle.

Just something to consider and keep fresh on your mind is the direction the actual currant is flowing, the spin direction of the rotating fields and the pressure between the primaries required for a specific output.

Marathonman

electrocute posted this 28 February 2018

Hello everyone

I am a newbie here and I caught interest in the Figuera-device when this thread was brought up. By watching the priming video by wisiti I thought it should be possible to test if it was something to this principle by doing a simple experiment.

The goal is to have one magnet moving out the same time as another one is moving in. Supposedly a pickup loop will then “see” a fading N-pole on one side and an increasing N-pole on the other side. This would be a new way of inducing something into a coil and the outcome not so easy to predict.

I first fixed one stack of neo ring magnets on a brass rod and dropped it through a vertical pvc pipe. On the outside of the pipe I had a pickup coil about 30cm from the top. The pulse was recorded on the scope. This would be the reference (normal induction). Peak value about 4.4V.

Then I fixed two stacks on the rod and dropped it from the same height. In this first test it was obvious that the spacing between the magnets was not optimal, so I decreased a little bit and did a new drop. Now it seems that the generated pulse is exactly what is proposed in the video:  double voltage – over 8 volts!!!

This is of cause a very crude experiment but may be the proof that this principle really has some merit.

 

This is what I used:

 

 

Pulse from one magnet stack:

  

 

Bucking magnets 1.try

 

 Bucking magnets 2.try: (now the scale is 5V/div)

 

 

-electrocute

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Marathonman posted this 28 February 2018

electrocute;

 

 I do agree it was a crude experiment but quite an effective one and you hit the underlying principle of the Figuera device right between the eyes. ie bulls eye.

the amount of pressure between the magnets directly correlates to the amount of field lines present thus the output of the device. the only difference between your experiment and the Figuera device is that Figuera used a very orderly sweeping of the field line collision back and fourth over the secondary just clearing the secondary then to the other side.

in the experiment i suggested is basically the same thing except the fact that you would be sweeping the magnets in an orderly fashion and your experiment it was a one time deal but again quite effective.

I applaud you in your efforts and thank you for joining me in this journey as it has been an uphill battle for four years trying to get people to build this device and you are well on your way to a fine build thus joining me in this great adventure.

just be aware that when dealing with electromagnets that the pressure between them is quite higher and precautions should be taken. all the info i have posted and my video on the front page will get you to a working device plus i have other videos about to be posted on youtube to explain the workings of the device.

if you have any question please feel free to PM me but i would rather you ask in the thread as it may be possible to answer other peoples question they may of had as my sole intention is to spread this device to the world.

Congrats my friend, i hope you enjoyed my video.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 28 February 2018

Mrblobby;

  You do know this thread is about the Figuera device don't you. what would be the point you are trying to convey to people building the Figuera device. it seems you have the wrong thread.

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Marathonman posted this 04 March 2018

Electrocute;

Now can you just imagine a pair of high power electromagnets performing the very same. what you will get is a rise in voltage very quick much higher than the original voltage used to excite the electromagnets in the first place.

the Figuera device is actually a very simple device but there is a lot of things happening at the same time especially with the controller part G that has many functions.

i have been working everyday well over a week now and have two days off before i have to go back to finish the house exterior. i will be posting my rebuilds of my core that got damaged and it is my goal to have it self running by May or June with an output of 1500 watts as i am just using two core pairs.

again i am glad you decided to research the device and prove to yourself the validity and operation. it is amazing that something so simple as taking an opposing electromagnet down at the same time as one rising can double the output.

Marathonman

electrocute posted this 05 March 2018

MM,

I did a couple of experiments some time ago with two electromagnets. As I understand the goal is to have one electromagnet going from 100% to zero at the same time as the other is going from zero to 100%. The result should be a triangular curve. In my first experiment I did this with just two transistors driven from a 2-channel function generator. I had a magnetometer with which I measured the resulting field on the pole faces. It took a lot of tuning of the timing of the pulses together with the driving voltage from the power supply and the resistors in the back emf circuit to get a fairly good triangular curve. If the timing was not set right the field would start above or below zero. The very interesting thing I observed was that the output was a square wave. This could mean that with this kind of field the induction is constant, giving DC in each cycle. But of cause change polarity each cycle.

In the next experiment I did I wanted to boost the field strength and at the same time improve the linearity of the curve. Since the loading current was depending on a RL-circuit in the first experiment (which gave a fairly linear curve) I would try to load through a constant current source. Darlington bipolar gave a nice linear curve. But for the decrease I used the same RL circuitry as before. I also used some smaller coils which gave higher field, about 0.5T as 0.1T in the first experiment. Unfortunately my magnetometer probe was smashed between the magnets so I have not finished the experiment yet. I think a magnetic field instrument is a must in these experiment. A new probe is under way from Ebay.

I am not sure if the fields should go from 0% to 100% or maybe from 50% or higher. It's difficult to know exactly what the part G does but as far as I can see there is always some resistor in the circuit, never a full break. That should indicate current always above zero.

As you may understand I am not so dedicated to a mechanical version of part G, partly because I don't have the means to make mechanical parts and also because I believe it is possible to make the necessary waveforms with electronics.

-electrocute

Marathonman posted this 05 March 2018

Electrocute; the second to the last paragraph is very correct.

In the Figuera device the primary electromagnets are never taken to zero. the reason is like trying to use AC in the Figuera device is that if you take the electromagnets down to zero it will take to long of time to build up the magnetic fields to proper field strength as it has to plow through the resistance and flipping the magnetic domains thus loosing coherency between the primary electromagnets which equates to loss of induction from the reducing electromagnet. even in a standard generator the field magnets are on full all the time.  Figuera did NOT reduce the electromagnets down past 1/3 to 1/2 which allowed his electromagnets to remain in coherency of E fields doubling the output.  the time it takes to reduce the electromagnet to 1/3 then to full power and reducing the other at the same time is so small that the Primary electromagnet E fields remain in total coherency as the reducing electromagnets E field is reversed to match that of the rising electromagnet E field.

According to Maxwell and Faraday all that is needed to produce electricity is a rise or fall of magnetic field strength like that of a standard generator but in the Figuera device to keep the two primary opposing fields coherent he only reduce them just enough to clear the secondary then back up to full potential reducing the other side at the same time.

what this did was allow the field magnets to retain 80 to 90% of there field strength and still get the required reduction and rise of magnetic field  strength to induce currant flow just the same as a standard generator but in a stationary scenario.

i posted a graph of the window of currant required to keep the primary electromagnets in coherency. part G allows this to happen when the brush rotates around adding and subtracting winding's that magnetically link or unlink to the system allowing an orderly rise and fall of currant through the primary electromagnets. part G also stores and releases energy into the system which aids the rising electromagnet to counter act the potential drop of the rising side of part G. part G also splits the feed into two and keeps them separate by using two North face magnetic fields allowing them to remain separate but in total unison keeping the primary electromagnets in total coherency. yes there is always some resistance in part G as it never reduces it's fields in the core to zero just like the primaries thus a magnetic field is always present reducing or rising of the currant flow to the primaries.

so as you can see part G CAN NOT be replaced with electronics or at least with no less than a truck load of parts.

in the magnet test you performed you basically took the Figuera device to one side thus dropping the two opposing sets through the coil which was the rising and lowering of two electromagnets one time. in the Figuera device you do this repeatedly back and forth or rise and fall opposite of each other in an orderly fashion only reducing one to just clear the secondary then back up to full potential.

I hope this helps in your understanding of the device. if you or anyone still have some confusion, i will try to explain it the best i can in other forms of description.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 05 March 2018

The cost of making the Figuera device electronically is prohibitively expensive as i know as i am pursuing this avenue also with the original build.

the cost of the electronics benefits only the companies that make the electronic parts thus will drain your wallet in a heart beat and make them even richer. 

the cost of the original is way, way less expensive and most likely last way longer but then again that choice falls squarely on the builder.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 06 March 2018

To achieve the goal of double the output as you and I have done with our demo the primaries have to be in complete unison and can NEVER be taken below half way or induction from the reducing electromagnet will cease thus the output will drop to the rising electromagnet. by not reducing them below half way the pressure is maintained between them thus the E fields remain in coherency which is the square of the two electromagnets.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 11 March 2018

Sorry for the late post as i am working everyday for weeks playing jungle Jim on a two tier scaffold. ..... and i am tired.

The experiments performed by myself and electrocute can be performed by anyone who reads this thread. in the case of the magnets or electromagnets opposing fields the field lines are compressed at the collision point doubling the field lines present. when dropped through the coil the first magnet through the coil will act as it is being reduced and the second magnet will act as it is being increased doubling the output of the E field thus the voltage from the coil or secondary

in the Figuera device the electromagnets are doing the exact same thing except the primary electromagnets are raised and lowered in complete unison from part G. the reducing electromagnet's are reduced to just clear the secondary the increased to full potential as the other primary electromagnet is reduced thus the field intensity of the electromagnets remain very high.

the opposing fields in part G will cause the inductors to remain completely separate but in complete unison all while raising and lowering the currant supplied to the primary electromagnets.

all the said action of the magnets and the Figuera electromagnets are in complete compliance with Faraday's Laws of induction and CAN NOT be denied.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 14 March 2018

I still am amazed why people can not get the idea through their head of part G recycling or reusing power. since part G is basically a dymamic inductor like all inductors that release energy from their magnetic field into the system when the currant drops and is stored in the magnetic field when the currant rises.

since we have a positive brush that rotates around the cylinder making contact with the winding's the currant coming from the primaries will cause a north>< North opposing magnetic fields allowing the two sides of the brush to act as independent inductors. as the brush rotates the amount of winding's and core material are linking and unlinking to the system sides. as the process of linking, meaning the brush is rotating away from set S winding's around part G are being added to that half of the system which will cause more opposition to currant flow as more winding's will have a larger magnetic field (reverse EMF) associated with that half of part G causing the currant to drop thus the magnetic field will release that potential into the system with the added potential from the reducing electromagnet EMF produced while it is retreating forward biasing part G and giving the rising electromagnet a boost. 

the process of increasing the magnetic field in set N causes a potential drop in part G as with any inductor as the amount of winding's decreases in part G the field is increasing thus the potential drop. the decreasing side of part G off sets this potential drop and gives the rising electromagnet an added boost at that time. the secondary is their to replace system losses from heat and wire.

part G is an inductor that is in a dynamic state but it still stores and releases energy into the system just like an ordinary inductor would.

It sure is nice having a day off.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 16 March 2018

 

I am sorry that the picture is rather trashy but i just wanted to try to get the point across that part G stores and releases energy into the system every half turn. in the pic set S is releasing magnetic field energy into the system to feed set N as the winding's i have been talking about are magnetically linking to that half of part G causing a drop in currant so that half is releasing some of that energy into the system and set N is storing a magnetic field for the next half cycle because the winding's are less as the brush rotates. this will cause a potential drop in that half of part G as any inductor would so the reducing side is releasing energy into the system to off set that potential drop along with the reducing primary EMF produced when it is retreating thus both causes an amplification to the rising side of part G and the rising electromagnet.

The secondary feed back is there to replace losses in the process and will replace the losses over time as plowing it full of currant will kill the process and the unit will cease to function.

Marathonman

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Enjoykin2118 posted this 16 March 2018

The same laws rule the Figuera's overunity machine.... This is that rule

ps: The same HZed FORCE like in Mr.PREVA device, HZ(ed) antennas, Floyd Sparky Sweet VTA and all OU devices.

Vladimir’s Korobejnikov and Ted's Hart mathematical work is the realization that the electric charge in dynamic electrons always has two components - forward and rotary(spinor 1/2). As a result, the electromagnetic field of this dynamic charge consists of two complex components: two (№2) separate and distinct electromagnetic fields Vector and Scalar EM-FIELDS. The properties of these two electromagnetic fields are very different in space. Conventional Hertz devices work on the forward progress of electric charges (current) in the conductors. A feature of the HZ device is that the cylinders have some conventional forward electron progress (conducting current) but the ROTARY movement or Electron's spin is master dominant. This sets up a condition to create magnetic streams counter to each other (compensated balance fields) and generate longitudinal HZ magnetic field (aka Scalar field, aka compression/decompression field, aka shock wave, aka radiant) those of the ordinary tuning coils.

 

 

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Enjoykin2118 posted this 16 March 2018

How to generate Spinor field or simply make electrons twist together at the same place ?

Order electrons to TWIST at place where they are by creating two vector magnetic streams counter to each other in well known Chris Sikes configuration known as partnered.

THREE RULES MASTER HZ-ed aetheric FORCE.

1. Two opposite (each other) conducting currents create two opposite vector magnetic streams.

2. Timing or time lag or phase shift between two halves of partnered coils or precise time-lag between two vector magnetic streams.

3. Critical frequency at which wave-lenght of HZ(ed) going to infinity, and the term of @speed@ become the nonsense, because instantaneous power transfer through the whole Aether, or simple HZ(ed) would become the Aether's property.

Think about the Aetheric power involved in neverending game of dynamic fields.

ps: In Fernandez project coils are for sure 100% in Chris Sykes Partnered configuration. Pluse time-lag to achieve HZ(ed) Critical Frequency. And result is always BINGO.

Same stuff in A.F. Möbius Partnered HZ(ed) coils.

Enjoykin2118

Enjoykin2118 posted this 16 March 2018

How to catch  "uncatchable" HZ(ed) field ? 

Marathonman posted this 17 March 2018

I will say again what does that have to do with FIguera and the info i am trying to get across. it seams you are on the wrong thread. i f you don't like the thread i would suggest opening your own thread as what you have posted has little to do with FIguera's device so you might want to move your post to Chris's partnered output coil thread or at the very least explain the point you are trying to convey. this thread is about the CLemente Figuera device and that should be respected.

Marathonman

Antimony posted this 17 March 2018

I am fascinated with Figuera, and your work MM is interesting. I have been interested in replicating it for a long time but i wasnt able to make the rotary switch, or anything like it.

Are you going to follow the patent, and use a rotary brush switching?

Thanks for sharing.

/antimony

Marathonman posted this 17 March 2018

Antimony;

Yes i built the rotary switch but am having balancing issues right now that is why i posted a different way to build the rotary device that will be easier to balance. the person that shared a lot of info to me had the same issue with his rotary device but managed to get it right.

I was pursuing an electronic version but the price tag to do that is crazy expensive so i will just stick to the rotary version for now.

I hope you have gained some good insights from what i have posted  that will help you get there a little quicker.

If you have any questions please feel free to ask as the soul purpose of me being here is to spread this info.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 17 March 2018

Another thing antimony is that once the rotary device is built it should be slightly ground with a surface grinder to get a true flat surface. the person that shared with me used a surface grinder at the speed of the actual brush rotated at meaning at 3600 rpm. the result was a superior flat surface with almost zero sparking and the wear on the brush was amazingly small.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 19 March 2018

Another experiment that i conducted i ordered two powerful magnets that were 1x1x2 and it was magnetized through the two inch. i attached the opposing magnets on a paint stir stick with some fairly good pressure between them. i then wound me a coil like electrocute did using pvc but in my case i mounted the coil to a block as to be non moving.

I then attached the coil to my meter and the paint stick to a sawzall blade with electrical tape. squeezing the trigger on the sawzall i was able to hit over 20 volts continuous output.

I then wound some small opposing electromagnets attached to the same paint stick with a 12 volt supply and managed to get the same results with twice the output of just one electromagnet.

It is test like this that prove the validity of the Figuera device and that the reducing magnet or electromagnet are catching the back side of the spin causing the two opposing fields to remain separate but Electric fields to be positive and additive therefore doubling the output.

any one of these tests can be done by anyone, anywhere and anytime and proves the validity of the Figuera device and it's function hands down that can not be denied or debunked by anyone.

This device Clemente Figuera built was a real device that worked and worked very well. of course the banksters tried to hide it and let it rot. i am here to see that it will not and the world needs to know about this device.

Marathonman

Enjoykin2118 posted this 19 March 2018

Tell us the basic principle of figuera device IF YOU KNOW HOW. All great stuffs must be extraordinary simple.

i am 100% sure that without HZ(ED)-component there is no practical way to obtain C.O.P.>1.

The only way we can obtain it is partnered coils (or partnered magnets) configuration. i saw it in Floyd's VTA , in Figuerea Device and in many working and suppressd free energy devices.

Point of view is EXTREMELY simlpe. Suppress two opposite vector magnetic fields with proper timing and don't forget scattering phasing of coils and trigger HZ(ed) component which is self independent once properly triggered. HZ(ed) is obligatory responsible for generation of free energy because it is part of Aetheric forces. As Tesla said - there is no energy in matter, so the source is out of it, in Aether. HZ(ed) is portal to the Aether.

Why you always made big volume devices, why not start with small model ? The point is not in size but in idea.

p.s. what the hack is HZ(ed) ?

it is a STANDING WAVE, MAGNETIC STANDING WAVE!

This "came to hit now"! Behind a wave guide wall, there is quite concrete wavelength, and in same timinging, it is equal to infinity in a wave guide.By the way, at an entrance to a wave guide the plane wave turns by 90 degrees and with sidewise or precise - magnetic component, slip through it..

Regards

Enjoykin

 

Marathonman posted this 19 March 2018

Enjoykin2118;

I have already stated how the device worked many, many times and that if you read the whole thread you would of seen that and i don't need a mountain of equations to tell me this device works.

the research i have done with the magnets then the electromagnets proved the validity so i acquired some cores and decided to build a small 1500 watt device and i see no ill effects of doing just that. it is small to me so once i am done all i have to do is add more cores and power something big if i want.

Thanks for the reexplanation of your post but unfortunately i have no idea what you are talking about scattering phasing of coils and trigger which to me makes absolutely no sense to me and most out there reading this post. so please explain further if you would like.

I don't see it as suppressing the opposing magnetic fields in fact in the FIguera device we are counting on it as the point of opposition is what is swept back and forth over the secondary just clearing then to full potential.

I have no ill will towards your post it just needed more explanation as to it's content and i am assuming that HZ(ed) means Counterspace.

and yes Tesla was right and Einstein was wrong there is no energy in mass as polarization starts the process of energy extraction from counter space.

my intention of my posts were to keep it as simple as i can to get the point across to as many as i can without over complicating it with miles of math garb that is all.

Marathonman

Enjoykin2118 posted this 19 March 2018

MM ok, I UNDERSTAND.

Good luck with Figuera.

Enjoykin

Marathonman posted this 19 March 2018

If you want to explain it with math that would compliment my posts then by all means have at it as our sole intention is for us to get this information out there to the masses. maybe another point of view is a good thing.

the last time i checked we were on the same side, at least i hope we are.

Marathonman

Enjoykin2118 posted this 19 March 2018

Yeap.

Already done in attached file. But nobody listen and read.

By the way, yes!, we are still on the same suppressed (mirrored) side of reality.

ps.  What HZ(ed) did with ordinary radio - in case with HZ(ed) antenna ?

http://www.xferra.com

Regards

Enjoykin

 

Marathonman posted this 20 March 2018

Figuera Function,

  When winding your primaries always remember the primaries are not controlling the currant,  that is the job of part G so the primaries are to be wound specifically as electromagnets which is not according to present day teachings but the secondary is wound according to present day teachings as all standard genies are. the primaries are opposing with one reducing and the other rising from the actions of the dynamic inductor part G brush rotation. as the reducing electromagnet is reducing the rising electromagnet is pushing it out of the core at the same time so as it is shoved into it's own core it will produce an EMF equal to the reduction. this EMF combined with the reducing side of part G's at the same time is releasing potential back into the system as any reducing inductor would. both potentials combined off set the rising side of part G as any inductor rising in currant will have a potential drop across it as it is storing the potential in a magnetic field for the next half cycle so the amplification from both sourses of potential off set the drop in potential giving a boost to the rising electromagnet.

as the reducing and rising electromagnet will always have pressure between them from the opposing magnetic fields the reducing electromagnet E field direction is reversed to match that of the rising electromagnet causing the square of the two output combined.

as the secondary and the load starts to draw currant (closed system)  a second opposing field in the secondary will form opposing the initial field and it is this field the primaries opposing field push from side to side. the primary electromagnets are reduced to just clear the secondary then back up to full potential as the other side is reduced.

since part G is a dynamic inductor using the magnetic field to curtail currant that is used in a different form from present day teachings a load has to be present in order for part G to work.  the self induction can only take place if the device is in operation and can not be tested with an induction meater as the readings will be null. part G uses self inductance ( reverse magnetic field) amplified by the iron core to cause a rise and fall of currant as the brush rotates magnetically linking and unlinking to the system as the brush rotates causing an orderly rise and fall of currant. as in any inductor when the currant is rising the inductor will be storing the potential in the magnetic field and as the currant is reduced the inductor will release potential into the system.  as the windings are linking to the system the span of the magnetic field and circuit will be larger thus the reverse EMF produced will be larger causing a reduction in currant flow thus the magnetic field will release that potential into the system at the same time. the reverse is true for the rising side of part G. just try doing that with no less than a truck load of electronic parts.

as you can read the Figuera device is always kept out of balance seeking equilibrium in which it never happens. it is in a state of constant increase and decrease and never allowed to get to a steady state as that would kill the device. basically it is a pressure pump and part G is the pressure regulator that stores and releases potential as does the primaries. the secondary feed back is there to replace the IR2 losses and the rising electromagnet from reduction and it does this over time just like a standard generator does feeding the input until the output is higher than the excitation and the load.

once the initial polarization of the secondaries from the primaries takes place they part ways and the primaries are the motive force that exerts motion into the secondary provided the secondary is a closed system with resistance of it's own.... ie a load.

And yes i did read your post enjoykin, it just took me reading it twice to understand what you were talking about. and thanks for the explanation.

 

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 20 March 2018

Basically what you will be doing is reducing the primaries without reducing the field presented to the secondary. the reducing electromagnet is only reduced in relation to the secondary not to it's self or the other primary. this will cause the field of the primaries to retain a large portion of it's field (80 to 90%) at all times thus the output of the secondary will remain very high.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 22 March 2018

 

Here is a pic of the variables of part G that one must consider when building part G. the second pic is a graph that part G will be built to and operate in a specific window of currant rise and fall. if you are using say 1 amp to power your primaries at full potential then part G must be wound to give a currant reduction according to the ratio (size) of your primaries and your secondaries and also the type of core material used and winding count ect. just remember that if the reduction of your primaries are to much the pressure between them will drop and induction will fall to that of just the rising electromagnet.

 Part G's core must be closed core as an open core or straight core will not give the proper feed back and retention of magnetic fields used in currant reduction of the primaries and the release of the magnetic field potential into the system.

Marathonman

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Marathonman posted this 22 March 2018

 If an inductor is designed so that any one of these factors may be varied at will, its inductance will correspondingly vary. Variable inductors are usually made by providing a way to vary the number of wire turns in use at any given time, or by varying the core material or both.

that is exactly what Figuera did in his part G by varying the amount of winding's magnetically linking and unlinking to the system he added or subtracted core material and winding's as the brush rotated keeping them separate with N><N fields at the brush. by changing these two parameters increased and decreased the size of the inductor this allowed him to vary each inductor on each side of the brush separately while remaining in complete unity and pressure between the primaries is maintained at all times.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 22 March 2018

Here is what i am working on right now. i am designing a new brush holder to connect to my motor as the old one was smashed out of balance and can not be repaired.

the picture is the design i have in mind. the center shaft and hole is what will connect to the motor with set screws. the second larger shaft is for slip rigs and the large bottom piece with the groves in it will house the brush or brushes and on the other side a counter weight. the frame that will screw down to the brush holder will allow me to adjust the diameter of the brush rotation in and out for proper currant rise and reduction. once the proper rise and reduction is found i can attach more set screws to make it secure.

Marathonman

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Marathonman posted this 23 March 2018

And here is the frame i was referring to. there is one on top and on bottom with two halves (one not shown) that can slide over one another that would allow it to be adjusted to any and all builds of part G and adapted in a few minutes. this would allow you to dial in the exact currant drop that is needed for your specific build.

out for a larger currant window and in for less of a currant window. the black dots are the screw holes and the square is the actual brush supported on top and on bottom. with this idea it will have around 3 1/2 to 4 inches of adjustment and to me it can't get any better than that.

if any one has any better ideas please feel free to voice the idea.

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Marathonman posted this 24 March 2018

In the Figuera device he used DC to excite his primaries just like a standard generator does to excite it's N&S fields not ac that some people seam to think. if one was to use AC there would be all kinds of phasing issues to deal with and this is unacceptable and a royal pain in the backside. not only would that cause hysteresis and eddy currants in the primaries and this is detrimental to it's magnetic field output. since the time it takes to plow through the resistance of the wire and the flipping of the magnetic domains are far to long to respond in any reasonable manor. thus would be darn near useless in the FIguera device.

by using DC in his device it eliminated all hysteresis and eddy currants but also the phasing issue involved in using AC. the secondary has these effects that is why he split the cores up the way he did. using DC allowed him to get the highest possible magnetic field from his primaries without all the said draw backs. by using DC and winding them specifically as electromagnets he was able to attain the highest magnetic field possible with the fastest rise in magnetic strength.

since he used DC and did not reduce his primaries down below half way this technic allowed the primaries to be reduced and increased to full potential with very short response time keeping a very orderly rise and fall of the primaries to remain in complete unison throughout this action.

just think about that for a while with some common sense. if one was to try to use AC in their primaries,  the time it took to rip through the resistance and to flip all the magnetic domains which would never happen because before the all the domains got flipped the AC is traveling the other way so the resistance and the flipping of the domains starts all over again. so what you would end up with is a rather weak electromagnet that gets hot from eddy currants and hysteresis. the time involved to do this process is crazy slow and coherency between the Electric fields would be lost and induction would fall to that of just the rising electromagnet.

now with that common sense still flowing by using DC that never reverses the Electromagnets do not have to deal with eddy currants or any hysteresis ill effects nor any phasing issues to contend with. when the DC electromagnet is brought up to proper field strength and reduced to just clear the secondary then back to full potential the time frame of that action is so minute that the primary Electric fields are able to remain in complete coherency. thus induction is at it's maximum and the output is the square of the two primary electromagnets compared to two plain bucking fields (NON COHERENT). very little magnetic domains are flipped in this process once it is at full potential because all Figuera did was reduce the currant to just clear the secondary then back to full potential which does not flip the domains like AC would. the electromagnets remain cool and have very fast response time.

in the process of splitting the DC currant both primary electromagnets remain in phase at all times and are just reduced in relation to the secondary and not them selves. since the wall at the collision point of both opposing electromagnets will be quite large the reduction of currant to get the primaries the sweeping action across the secondary will be quite small. not to mention the opposing field of the secondary once currant starts to flow in the secondary and the load will be sandwiched in between those two primary electromagnet. refer to the squirrel cage motor action and apply it to this scenario.

the primary electromagnets cause the E fields but it is the relative motion of the primaries being reduced and increased with the opposing secondary fields between them that induces currant flow into the secondary and the load. once the polarization takes place and currant begins to flow the primaries and the secondaries part ways and it is the primaries becomes the motive force that exerts motion into the secondary provided the circuit is closed with resistance of it's own.         ( ie a load)

thus in compience according to Faraday's laws of induction ANY rise or FALL of the magnetic field will cause induction no matter how small.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 25 March 2018

Continuing on the common sense theme part G will become the power supply of the device after the initial start of the device then the power supply can be taken away.  every half rotation of part G it stores and releases energy into the system each half of part G almost acting independent but feeding each other. when one side is storing energy in the form of a magnetic field the other side is releasing energy into the system from it's magnetic field. in the next cycle the reverse is true, the previous rising side will be releasing energy into the system and the reducing side will be storing into the magnetic field.

as the magnetic field is released into the system from the reducing side of part G the reducing primaries magnetic field is reduced also releasing that part of the reduced magnetic field into part G. both sources of potential are combined causing a forward biasing of part G similar to a mag amp. this amplification off sets the rising side of part G potential drop as any inductor when currant is rising will store into it's magnetic field causing a potential drop on that side of part G.  both sources of potential combines off setting this potential drop causing an amplification to the rising electromagnet boosting it's output. these magnetic fields are also used in the manipulation of the currant. with each half rotation of the brush each side of the brush will act as independent inductors with the length of the inductor changing with the brush movement adding or subtracting winding's that magnetically link or unlink to that half of the inductor causing a linear rise and fall of currant.

once the fields are up to working conditions the currant draw of the device will drop as per Sparky Sweet and the only power needed will be the replacement of the IR2 losses and the rising electromagnet to full potential which is small since the primary is only reduce to just clear the secondary then back to full potential.

just like a standard generator a small portion of the output is fed to it's exciting field to replace the losses which are inherent in all man's devices as nothing is 100%. just like a standard generator once the magnetic fields are up to working conditions the currant draw is reduced to that of just the IR2 losses to maintain the fields.

the inducing side and the induced side are actually separate system and the only power used from the inducing side to the induced is to polarize the secondaries. once the secondaries currant starts flowing they part ways and almost act independent of each other.  when the currant flows in the output according to the Lenz law an opposing field will form opposing the original currant flow and this opposite field is what is pushed side to side from the primaries across the circular Electric field that is formed around the secondaries from the actions of the primaries.

in a standard generator the exciting fields are on all the time and as the rotor rotates through the magnetic fields it encounters different strengths of magnetic field and the closer it gets to the exciters the stronger the field gets thus the farther it gets from the exciters the weaker the field gets. so in the FIguera device since the electromagnets are stationary with no moving parts in order to get the rise and fall of magnetic field strength he had to raise and lower the currant to the primary electromagnets to mimic this process and that is where part G comes into play inducing and orderly rise and fall of currant.

all said actions of a standard generator and the Figuera stationary generator are the laws of induction set forth by Faraday and violate not one as any and i mean any increase of decrease in magnetic field strength will cause an EMF in the output and the Figuera device does just that.

 

 

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 25 March 2018

J.P. Morgan spent Millions hiding or ridding the world of Maxwell and Faraday's free energy equations replacing school books across the country.

I for one believe that one can get more out of a system that is needed to put in. if not for the lenz law, the cogging effect when a rotor passes the stator when currant is drawn from a standard generator then it would be OU as the amount of power used to excite the field is stupidly small compared to it's output.

in the Figuera device he did just that, removed the cogging effect by making it stationary.

Ask yourself how can free energy be possible when MAN said it can't. simply put the world told me. if free energy is not possible then why in the world does our world continue to spin for millions of years if perpetual motion is not possible.  apparently the world did not get that memo from man.

simply put perpetual motion IS possible and i believe we have been lied to for 150 years. if you don't believe it's possible then what are you doing on this web site in the first place.

the Figuera device is such a device.

wouldn't it be awkward if the world stop spinning tomorrow. NOT LIKELY ! 

knowing the difference between the transformer and the generator helps. knowing the true operation of a standard generator will really get you to where you need to go on that long road to OU.

Marathonman

 

Marathonman posted this 26 March 2018

In my research the reason i brought in William Hooper and associated his work with Figuera was his table top experiment dealing with motional electric fields.

In my research in magnetism i found that two opposing magnetic fields can not occupy the same time space domain at the same time. it has to be one or the other not both. when two opposing magnetic fields are forced together the magnetic field line are highly compressed but still remain separate, if these two fields remain separate then how in the world did Figuera get such an amazing output from such a small crude device.

Two words...... "ELECTRIC FIELD"

The Motional Electric Fields are not like the opposing magnetic fields. they are the same coin but the other side acting differently in respects to time space domain. even though the magnetic fields remain separate the Motional Electric Fields do not and are positive and additive.

Figuera in his amazing research found out that by increasing the currant in one opposing electromagnet and decreasing the other at the same time both electromagnets Motional Electric Fields were both positive and additive as both were in the same direction giving him double the output as one electromagnet a lone. all that is required to keep this action at a constant is maintaining the magnetic field pressure between the primary electromagnets when one is reduced and the other increased allowing the Motional Electric Fields to remain in coherency....ie in phase.

the magnet tests that were performed are the exact same actions of the Figuera electromagnets. as the first magnet through the coil it's magnetic field will act as it is being reduced and the second approaching the coil will act as if it were being increased. with the opposing magnetic fields compressed  just like the electromagnets in which is directly correlated to the to the amount of output you will get the magnets create the Motional Electric Fields just the same as the Figuera device. both magnets electric fields are positive and additive as both are in the same direction.

The Figuera device is intriguing, fascinating and has captivated all my attention thus i have devoted my life to the disclosure of this device...... ENJOY!

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 27 March 2018

I was asked just the other day how in the world can the primaries exert motion into a secondary when both are stationary. ?

the primary electromagnets cause the E fields but it is the relative motion of the primaries being reduced and increased with the opposing secondary field between them that induces currant flow into the secondary and the load. once the polarization takes place and currant begins to flow the primaries and the secondaries part ways and it is the primaries becomes the motive force that exerts motion into the secondary provided the circuit is closed with resistance of it's own. ( ie a load)

So lets stop and think about that for a minute. the compression of the two opposing electromagnetic fields dictate the intensity of the electric field and as one is reduced and the other is increased both E fields are in the same direction as both are positive and additive.

now the only time power from the primaries (inducers) are transferred to the secondaries (induced) is when the secondaries are to be polarized. once this polarization takes place and currant begins to flow in the secondary and the load the Lenz law comes into play and an opposing field to the first is formed in the secondary.

since this opposing field will be in between the opposing field of the primaries it is the relative motion of the primaries being reduced and increased that pushes that opposing secondary field across the Electric field formed by the primaries in the space between the primaries occupied by the secondary. this will cause the secondaries to appear to have the illusion or appearance of motion in them to the Electric field thus currant will flow.

once this process takes place the primaries and the secondaries part ways and it is the relative motion of the primaries that exert motion into the secondaries provided the circuit is closed with resistance of it's own. after they part ways each system is essentially completely separate and no other time is power transferred to the secondary system. the power requirements of the induced (primaries)  is reduced to that of just the IR2 losses and the replacement of the currant in the process of reducing the primaries to get motion into the secondaries then back to full potential.

the power used to sweep the opposing secondary field ( Weightless Massless Field) across the Electric field formed by the primaries is so rediculously small that the unit can power it's self and the load once it is started. 

part G in the patent is basically a dynamic inductor that increases or decreases the currant through the primaries that exert the illusion or appearance of motion into the secondaries.

BA-Bang said Figuera, the chap has it right.

 

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 28 March 2018

I have said it before and have stated many, many times that the Figuera device DOES NOT RUN ON AC. this is a DC device so there is NO scattering NO phasing or trigger or any other kind of AC operations. there is no phasing or time lag of any kind because it is a DC device.

I have stated the facts of why AC can not be used and maybe some need to reread what i have posted through my research and findings. to get the strongest electromagnet possible you have to use DC that is plain and simple.

even a standard generator from clear back to Praxii in France used DC to excite it's field as does a standard generator of present day. why do you ask ? because you can not get the intense magnetic field of a DC electromagnet using AC. not only that, the phasing issues, eddy currants, Hysteresis, heat  and God knows a ton of other crap involved.

YES PEOPLE THIS DEVICE USES DC.

their was a person on overunity years ago that was a troll type that swore i was dead wrong and the Figuera device used ac. well years later after spending a boat load of money and never getting the device to work with ac i got a PM from him six months ago apologizing for his actions and that i was dead right after all. even though the torment from him and others caused me to loose my temper and get moderated even to this day i still gave him some advice to his present device he was working on as it should be.

i have no desire or inclination to miss lead anyone as this F- up world we live in  we need to work together if we are going to survive.

This device is in the public domain and therefore can not be patent. that just means EVERYONE can build it.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 01 April 2018

A very good point that idea1man link on another thread to another site talks about overunity laws and overunity law #2 that states Iron acts as a currant amplifier and that is so obvious that i don't think it needs to be touched upon except the 1932 Coutier device uses this concept exclusively as does all generators of any kind.

what i want to talk about is the OU law #3 that states electromagnetic energy can be recycled. to me this is a DUH ! statement since energy can not be destroyed only converted to another form of energy so to me it is quite obvious that it can be transformed from one energy state to another with ease.

in an LC circuit we have the magnetic field potential from the inductor as it is being reduced transformed into an electric potential of the capacitor. when the capacitor releases the electric potential it is converted to the magnetic potential of the inductor on a continuous orderly basis.

In part G we have those energy states taking place. when part G which is an inductor it stores and releases magnetic field potential from the system on that same orderly basis to the form of electric potential. each half rotation of part G there is a rise or fall of the inductor potential either converting it to electric potential off setting the potential drop of the rising side of part G or storing the electric potential in the form of a magnetic potential in the rising side of part G.

The primary electromagnets do the same thing as part G. when the primary is rising it is storing a magnetic potential in it's field and the reducing primary electromagnet  field is releasing the magnetic potential into the system in the form of an electric potential. both released magnetic potentials of the reduced primary and the reducing part G inductor are converted to electric potential offsetting the potential drop of the rising electromagnet and part G as they are storing into the magnetic field.

what we have then is a very orderly rise and fall of potential that is constantly converted from a magnetic potential to an electric potential and back again many times a second depending on your country. 

Part G becomes the power supply once the initial power supply is removed and it recycles the energy in the inducer side imparting motion into the induced side which is a closed system of it's own.

THIS ACTION CAN NOT BE DONE WITH A RESISTOR THAT WASTE ELECTRIC POTENTIAL AS HEAT. THE ELECTRIC POTENTIAL IS CONVERTED TO HEAT POTENTIAL THAT CAN NOT BE RECOVERED BY THE SYSTEM AND AMOUNTS TO MASSIVE UNRECOVERABLE LOSSES. ON THE OTHER HAND THE ELECTRIC POTENTIAL CAN BE CONVERTED TO A MAGNETIC POTENTIAL AND BACK CONTINUOUSLY WITH VERY LITTLE LOSSES WHICH IS THE IR2 LOSSES.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 03 April 2018

Electrocute;

After reviewing your magnet drop pics again i noticed you were off on you voltage assessment. your first drop was in fact 4.4 volts for a single magnet stack but the third drop of the double magnet stack after adjustment was in fact 9 volts. that is slightly more than double the voltage output.

This is more than enough reason to explore the world of Figuera in my book as partnered output coils in the right switching scenario can more than double the output of your device.

I have been thinking that if someone used very strong magnets arranged with mechanical linkage with a small motor to allow a group of magnets to be shifted back and forth in an opposing manor that there should be no reason why it could produce more output than the motor requirements. if the group of magnets were on opposite sides of a shaft that they would counter balance one another eliminating vibration.

as a small model this could be done for someone to prove to themselves it could be done.

I will not pursue this avenue as i am committed to the larger scale of Figuers device.

Marathonman

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Marathonman posted this 04 April 2018

There are still a few things i have not talked about and one of them is the ratio of the primaries to the secondaries.

in all the patents one from Figuera (1908) and the others from Buforn they show the primary from 1/2 to 1/3 larger than the secondaries. while i am quite aware that the patent specifically states that it is just a drawing for understanding of the device in reality it does have substantial merit.

the first thing that comes into mind is the Inverse-Square Law that basically has to do with just about any forms of energy including magnetism.  it simply states that the energy is evenly radiated out from a point source in three dimensional space. as it gets farther from the point source it is spread out over an area that is increasing in proportion to the square of the distance from the source thus the intensity falls off dramatically the farther it gets from the source.  magnetism is no exception even though it is traveling in an iron core the effects are basically the same. the magnetic fields will start to dissipate as the length of the field reaches the length of the magnet or electromagnet.

I have a few 2 inch long strong magnets that have been tested with a pole tester.  the field from the magnet could only detect a field 2 inches away from the magnet exactly the length of the magnet it's self. i then attached a core  to the magnet and tested again and the results were the same. the magnetic field could only be tested out to 2 inches.

I then made some small powerful electromagnets and performed the same tests with exactly the same results. the magnetic field projected out the exact length as the core length it self.

So this is the reason for me to believe that the reason Figuera chose larger electromagnets where because of the Inverse Square Law. if the electromagnets were the same size the magnetic fields from the primaries would be very weak if it had to travel through the secondary core of the same length.

by making his secondaries 1/2 to 1/3 smaller than his primaries the magnetic fields from the primaries would remain very powerful even through the reduction process maintaining the proper field strength between the electromagnet. in the process of reduction the electromagnets would only have to be reduce very little to just clear the secondaries then back to full potential as the other electromagnet is being reduced allowing the Electric Fields intensity to remain at it's highest thus the output of the secondary at it's highest.

years ago a person did just that (no names mentioned) he made his primaries and his secondaries the same length but not only that he had a 1/2 inch gap of core material between them.  his coils were only 1 inch wide not even the length of the core. needless to say he got literally nothing for output and was quite frustrated. it was quite obvious he did not listen to advice that was given to him. since his coil was only 1 inch wide the magnetic field projected from it was only 1 inch plus the gap was over 1/2 inch wide so it could not even reach the other side of the secondary. the inverse law bit him right in the back side.

Remember The Inverse Square Law and wind your coils the entire length of your core leaving as little end space as possible. this will allow you to project a magnetic field the length of the core it self. if this was a north and a south magnet in a closed core it would have a different outcome but what we are dealing with is an opposing duel mono pole excitation system projecting it's magnetic field outside of it's core so the Inverse Square Law directly applies to the primaries.

Marathonman

Zanzal posted this 05 April 2018

Good stuff Marathonman. You've inspired me to try one of these soon. I've got a couple ideas for approaches for a solid state part G. The most simple approach involves combing a constant current source with a sine wave along with an NPN and a PNP transistor to create two oscillating current limited DC sources that are 180 degrees out of phase. A simulation here:

Oscillating two phase DC source

The two opposing coil sets would go where the 1 ohm resistors are.

Should that approach fail to get good results I will likely try a 10-transistor Johnson Counter feeding a 10 tapped toroid approach, but not the one recommended by Patrick Kelly as that one appears (to me anyway) to have some flaws.

Marathonman posted this 05 April 2018

As i have stated many, many times and proved that part G can not be replaced with electronics with ease all i can say is good luck in your adventure.

Part G is simplex, meaning it is simple but has a myraid of function that literally can not be replaced with electronics. the function of the inductor storing and releasing of energies is the main function that will be the largest obstacle one must overcome. this function can not be replicated with electronics so i would suggest using part G with transistor switching (say PNP's on high side) if you are so determined to take this route. i personally find no satisfaction in making the company rich that makes the electronics as it will take no less than a boat load to replace part G and the brush rotation.

also you must keep clear the fact that the primaries are NEVER taken to zero only reduced to just clear the secondary then back to full potential. if this very fact is overlooked or forgotten the induction from the primaries in sink will fail and the output will fall to that of the rising electromagnet.

while i do appreciate the fact that i have conveyed the information to someone in a proper manor that has sparked an inner enthusiasm and excitement enough to pursue this device build i would still throw out a word of caution toward the use of electronics as the replacement of part G will not be an inexpensive option.

if you are still determined to continue on your path i would remind you that part G has to have a considerable amount of winding's to amount to the proper self induction (BEMF) to control currant. in order to exactly mimic the brush rotation it would take many, many transistors plus the fact that they will have to be in a (make- before -break) scenario in order to keep the currant flowing in order to avoid the magnetic field collapse in part G and the primaries.

there are a mountain of things to consider when using electronics and all i am doing is to make you aware of them.

I do thank you again for the positive comments from you and everyone that reads this thread or watches my videos (more to come) . i have spent literally years and 10's of thousands of hours researching this device understanding and replicating it's function. i sit sometimes for hours just staring at the cores or part G simulating the magnetic field interaction as they move or rotate through it's core. i still to this day study this device almost to the atomic level some times up to 15 hours a day.

I guess it is my destiny to spread the word of this device to the world as it is all i can think about 24/7 and there is not a day goes by that i am not talking about this device to someone. i guess God put this device in my heart, i really don't know. what i do know is all the people that had devices built that were associated with free energy got to damn greedy trying to make millions died with their vision with them.

i don't want to be a millionaire, I JUST WANT TO BE HAPPY. 

good luck in your adventure Zanzal i am glad you are aboard and i hope you have positive results.

 

Marathonman

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Marathonman posted this 06 April 2018

I am assuming everyone knows i am working on the Figuera 1908 patent. even though the part G inductor/regulator/controller rotates,  the Generating part is stationary in opposing fashion. i really think Figuera in his infinite Genius and wisdom knew that his patent would eventually run out and people would find it and build it. so i really believe he gave this device to the world to help humanity. his prototype device he took to the patent office even with defects put out over 550 volts and stated that it powered a 20 HP motor. the 20 HP motor alone requires 15 Kw to power plus he powered his lights in his house and the street lights outside his house. this device had to put out darn near 20 Kw even being small in size. back then you had to have a working device to get a patent and also it was certified by the Barcelona Patent office to actually work.

his 1902 patents which consisted of 4 patents were sold to the bankers for a rather large sum of money to pay back his financial backer Buforn and to finish his grand daddy of them all his 1908 device. the subsequent patent after 1908 were legally nul and void as they were a direct infringement on the 1908 patent and i am quite surprises they were issued to Buforn in the first place.

in the 1908 patent it talks about part G as having some resistance yet NEVER mentions resistors explicitly and states in the patent for the understanding of the function in it's elementary form. so being in it's elementary form just for the understanding of the device is just that, for the understanding and function and is in NO WAY a resistor or a resistor array.

Quote;  "to pass through a rotating brush which, in its rotation movement, is placed in communication with the commutator bars or contacts of a ring distributor or cylinder whose contacts are in communication with a resistance whose value varies  from a maximum to a minimum and vice versa, according with the commutator bars of the cylinder which operates, and for that reason the resistance is connected to the electromagnets N by one of its side, and the electromagnets S at the other side."

and

" a switch and comprising a brush or rotary switch, which makes contact successively on the series of fixed contacts and get a continuous variation of the current flowing through the coils of the inducer electromagnets."

think about this for a second, he is giving you clues as to the way part G is built. since having thick commutator bars embedded into a cylinder then connecting them with thin wires would be total insanity as the thin wires would burn up immediately. but there is more, or contacts of a ring distributor or cylinder,  a ring distributor or cylinder would imply an iron cylinder of some sort. 

whose contact are in communication with a resistance whose value varies from a maximum to a minimum and vise versa. this tells me that the contacts are actually the winding's on the cylinder that has some resistance but is not a resistor of any kind and the value varies from a maximum to a minimum as the brush rotates making contact with more than one winding at a time.

The brush as it rotates around the cylinder making contacts with the winding's magnetically linking or unlinking to the system that increases or decreases the size of the inductance with the movement of the brush. if there are no resistors then it has to be controlled by magnetic resistance in which it has to be a dynamic inductor that varies the currant as the brush rotates magnetically linking and unlinking causing an orderly rise and fall of currant. (varying the self inductance dynamically as the brush rotates)

this would also allow part G to split the feed into two by having north opposing fields at the brush keeping them totally separate but remain in complete unison as the currant rise and fall in an orderly fashion.

it would also allow each half to act independent one storing into the magnetic field and the other releasing some of it's magnetic field to offset the rising side of the inducers and part G.

there is no way in hell a resistor can do this as all it would be for in this case is waste power and heat up your house. on the other hand an inductor will not only change the currant level but store and release energy at the right time to counter act any potential drop that may occur in the process of storing the potential in a magnetic field in the rising side part G and the primaries. as the reducing side of part G is releasing potential into the system so is the reducing primary. both magnetic potential when reduced will release that reduced potential into the system off setting the rising side of part G and the rising primary potential drop.

PART G IS A DYNAMIC INDUCTOR and is in NO WAY a resistor of any kind.

 

Marathonman

 

Marathonman posted this 07 April 2018

What really amazes me is the total non advancement  in the field of magnetic's and electricity in general in the last 118 years. it seams quite obvious in my research that JP Morgan was one of the sole perpetrators in destroying the advancement of these fields guided by good ole Rochefellers and the Rothschilds. he literally took school books from the system and had them changed to rid all traces of free energy. this would be grade schools and colleges and he spent millions in this process. 

HOW SICK IS THAT, TOTAL GREED AT IT"S FINEST.

what also amazes me is the simple act of pulling a magnet or reducing an electromagnet from a coil causes the induced currant to reverse direction (reversed Electric field).  how in the world can something so disgustingly simple be so severely overlooked through out the scientific community is totally beyond me.

a simple technic of taking one electromagnet or magnet in or rise of currant and the opposite on the other side to reduce in currant or taken away from the coil causes the doubling of the voltage from the coil. what is amazing is Clemente Figuera did this 110 years ago and was purposely hidden from the people.

we can not sit by idle and let these rich disgusting fools take advantage of us any longer.

the Figuera device is simple, it uses a dynamic rotating inductor that varies the currant to two opposing north face electromagnets that cause the doubling of the electric field from the action of one electromagnet being reduced and the other increased all while keeping both in total unison. as long as the pressure between the primary electromagnets are maintained the Electric field presented to the secondary will remain at it's highest potential with increased output.

what is killing people is the standard way an inductor is used in present day.  since people are so hypnotized by present day dogma science that states an inductor is just a passive device that just sits there and curbs currant only for a short time and stores and releases a magnetic field potential. when on the other hand if you have a positive rotating brush on an inductor wound on a core with it's core and winding's changing as the brush rotates causing both side to increase or decrease in length will cause an orderly rise and fall of magnetic fields used to curtail currant on an absolutely orderly basis. then using those magnetic fields in a positive advantage manor to offset the potential drop of the rising side and splitting the feed into two separate feeds.

currant in an inductor will change intensity if the condition of the circuit changes ie.... the amount of core material,  the winding count and the length of the inductor. even if the circuit is presented with say 10 amps the window of the inductor will allow only the amount you need as per the winding count and the radius of the brush. increasing only when the currant draw on the output increases thus the output fed back to part G increasing the currant flow to the primaries.

this very use of an inductor takes it from a passive device to an active device on a dynamic basis as the brush rotates. and this my friends can not be found in NO school books around the world.

welcome to my world and the world of Clemente Figuera and the infinite energy machine.

 

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 08 April 2018

if an inductor is wound on a straight rod-shaped core, the magnetic field lines emerging from one end of the core must pass through the air to re-enter the core at the other end. This reduces the field, because much of the magnetic field path is in air rather than the higher permeability core material. 

a higher magnetic field and inductance can be achieved by forming the core in a closed magnetic circuit. The magnetic field lines form closed loops within the core without leaving the core material. The shape often used is a toroidal or a cylinder iron core. Because of their symmetry, toroidal  or cylinder cores allow a minimum of the magnetic flux to escape outside the core and this is called flux leakage.

the iron of the cylinder amplifies the self inductance (reverse EMF) which is used to control the currant in the FIguera device on an orderly basis. by being a closed core the magnetic fields are contained and preserved inside the core thus the leakage is at a minimum.

when a positive brush is added to the inductance cylinder on a rotating basis the magnetic fields from the currant source will cause two opposing fields at the brush allowing them to act as two independent inductors but remaining in complete unison. while one side is increasing in currant the other side is decreasing in currant at the same time because the self inductance (opposing EMF) to the original currant is decreasing on the rising side. meaning as the brush rotates closer to set N the inductor is getting smaller thus the self inductance (opposing EMF) is getting smaller allowing more currant to flow in set N.

the opposite is true for set S as the brush rotates closer to set N the inductor on the set S side is getting larger thus the self inductance (opposing EMF) to the original currant flow is getting larger causing a currant reduction for that set.

each half rotation the reverse is talking place,  the side that was increasing in currant will be reducing and the previous reducing side will be increasing in currant flow. as the currant is increasing in half of part G it is storing in the magnetic field and the side that is decreasing will be releasing some of it's magnetic field. the next half cycle the reverse is true.

the whole reason Figuera chose a closed core was the fact that it is much, much more efficient than an open core can ever be thus would not be able to be self sustaining as the flux leakage would be to great. using the closed core allowed him to recycle the magnetic and electric potential with greater efficiencies storing and releasing these potential with ease.

the inducing side is a closed core system as is the induced side and at no time is the energies of the induced side transferred to the induced side except at the start when the initial polarization of the secondary takes place. after that the two remain completely separate and it is the relative motion of the primaries that exert motion into the secondaries thus the load.

 

 

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Marathonman posted this 08 April 2018

Another fine point to bring up is as we have two opposing north magnetic fields at the positive brush we will also have two south opposing fields in the other half of part G. opposing field can be used as an insertion point to insert the potential from the secondary if used properly thus a second brush on part G can be attained with the use of a Two or a four pole commutator allowing the negative connection to remain in that half opposite of the positive brush as it rotates thus part G truly becomes the power supply once the initial power is removed.

since the winding's are currently reducing the currant from self inductance it would not matter what kind of currant was added as it will still reduce it anyway and store it in the magnetic field to be used in the next half cycle. if the load increases on the secondary so does the return from the secondaries to part G and the primaries.

so what we are left with is literally only two ways to connect the secondary to the device to make it self sustaining and that is the Tesla AC to DC device in which i have posted previously and the above scenario as i interpret both will work. we shall soon see the light.

CORRECTION; the use of a four pole commutator  might not be a bad idea as it will alleviate any chance of overlap that can cause a dead short on the two pole commutator.

I will be building the new brush holder and will test this very thing.

 

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Marathonman posted this 09 April 2018

Part G;

   The illusive part G that has so many confused to no end. as i was on two free energy site before this one and all i heard from people every single day was that i was crazy thinking part G was not resistors. even to this very day i posted on another site and a long time fool (unintelligent) and known troll type just had to post saying if a resistor array waste so much power then why did he put one before his primaries,???

SIMPLY PUT, BECAUSE HE DIDN'T USE A RESISTOR ARRAY in the first place.

like my previous post the patent specifically says " in it's elementary form for the understanding of the function" why in the world can't people get past this very factual statement as the picture is just that a picture for the UNDERSTANDING OF THE FUNCTION.  if Figuera had used resistors the device would be so wasteful that it would never be able to be self sustaining if it had to replace the massive losses from heat in which it would of heated his house to an unbearable temperature. i personally think the picture was purposely drawn and  worded to confuse beyond belief as most of the public CAN NOT GET PAST THE PICTURE.

while i was on this other sites i was trying to convey the fact that the core not only was not a resistor but was an inductor that rotated on a closed core. Figuera in his utter genius would have never used heat death resistors in his device if he wanted to use the most efficient way he could to control his device. not only that it was passed to me many years ago that the device was a continuous winding. well a person wound the device then stated that it can not work with a continuous wind and i was publicly labeled as wrong and a fraud. well i finally found out the the person in question only used 20 to 40 winds on part G and this is not nearly enough to get the proper currant reduction as i so found out through my research. if the person would have doubled his winding count the device would have worked just fine and not be almost a dead short. his core was to shallow also as the graph i posted on parameters to control inductance.

think about this for a while. if part G splits the feed into two, forward biases the rising side like a magamp controlling saturation, attenuates the currant on a dynamic basis and stores and releases magnetic potential to offset the rising side of part G and the primaries all while remaining cool then how in the world can someone think a resistor could be used here. it in fact can NEVER be used in this device. the amount of power wasted would be unbelievable compared to an inductor that would be in the range of around 97% to 99% efficient. the only losses ocurred would be a few percent in the worst case scenario.

an inductor is not just a passive device,  it can be used as an active device in a dynamic state of continual rotation. the present day usage of an inductor says that currant changes control the amount of magnetic field opposition (self inductance ie..Lenz Law, reverse EMF)  to the original currant flow and thus eventually evens out to a steady state as does the magnetic field.  the magnetic field is in a steady state until the currant rises or falls then self inductance will raise it's head again.

while this is fine and dandy what they don't say that if the condition or parameters of the circuit changes as in the adding or subtracting of core material and the winding count that the self inductance, reverse EMF to the original currant flow can be changes also on a dynamic basis giving a way to control currant in an orderly rise and fall of currant.

by utilizing a positive brush on a closed core system,  the self inductance (reverse EMF)  of the windings can be amplified fron the iron to control currant flow as the brush rotates increasing or decreasing the size of the inductor as this is directly correlates to the amount of self inductance, reverse EMF to the original currant flow.

welcome to Figuera  part G Dynamic Inductor 101.  resistors 101 has been cancelled indefinitely due to fire damage.

 

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 09 April 2018

Another thing i think people are having a hard time understanding is if part G becomes the power supply when the original supply is removed then how can the current not be reversed in the primaries.

Simple, the currant travels in the same direction at all times.

if you read up on how a an inductor works you will then realize that when the twin part G inductors on either side of the brush are fed DC currant then reduced, the magnetic field releases that potential which travels in the same direction in which it was receiving the currant in the first place. what it does is try to maintain the currant direction in the closed system thus the rising side of part G and primaries are fed from the reducing primaries plus the reducing side of part G to offset the potential drop of the rising side. the currant is never reversed only attenuated from the reverse EMF of the twin inductors. the original currant flow is always in the same direction,

an inductor's self inductance resists the flow of electrons not the direction of the flow itself.

as you can see from the pic's below that the currant direction does not change whether the Inductor is storing or releasing potential. each half of part G's brush acting independent either storing into the magnetic field or releasing from the magnetic field. the increasing side is storing into the magnetic field to feed the reducing side the next half rotation and the reducing side is feeding the rising side only to reverse it's operation the next half cycle.

each time the source of potential is released it acts as a short term battery feeding the system. so if you have two sources of potential back to back, the reducing primaries and the reducing side of part G,  it will act just like two batteries in series offsetting the potential drop to the rising side.

 

 

 

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Marathonman posted this 10 April 2018

The inducing side and the induced side are actually two separate systems as is a standard generator. part of the secondary output is used as feed back in the excitation of the inducers. the only difference is one is rotating with MASSIVE COGGING EFFECTS  with the use of an AVR and the other is completely stationary with the use of part G. with the massive cogging of the rotating generator it needs a powerful motor just to turn it but the Figuera device does not. it moves the weightless, massless field from side to side.

both when drawing more currant the output will send more currant to the inducers to produce more output then the combined load of inducers and the load.

once the field magnets are at their optimal magnetic potential the currant in both will pass right on by as if it were a piece of straight wire because the magnetic field can not hold any more flux in the field as per the currant so the currant draw is reduced to that of just the IR2 losses. the only time this is increased is when the load demands more currant.  otherwise the currant is still there to maintain the field but it is not being used by the inducers.

since the rotor rotates the output coils through different strengths of magnetic field of the north and the south,  in the figuera device this is where part G comes into play. through the different levels of self induction as the brush rotates allows the currant to be varied on an orderly basis raising and lowering the amount of reverse EMF to the original currant flow thus varying the currant through the primaries.

in the process of raising and lowering the currant to the primaries the secondary opposing field (Lenz Law) can be shoved from side to side with very, very little effort. the opposing magnetic fields from the primaries are in a space out side of the primary core in a space occupied by the secondary so there will be no interaction of adverse effects from the secondary to the primaries. this allows the primaries to do their specific job of being electromagnets and the secondary to do it's job of outputting EMF. since the coils are on separate cores there will be NO transfer of eddy currants or hysteresis of any kind.

remember this is a generator and NOT A TRANSFORMER and should be treated as such. there is a big difference between mutual inductance in a closed core system and FLUX CUTTING in a generator and the Figuera device.

you can call it the same it doesn't really matter to me as everyone's thoughts are different. i think a transformer can never be close to 100% as it has losses and is self regulating but a generator can be way past 100% if built right.

exceptions to the rule are the 1932 Coutier device that amplifies the currant to 212 times the original currant. 

the only reason a standard generator is not OU is from the massive attraction (cogging)  between the stater and the rotor as it rotates,  so much so that is boggs down the motor when currant is drawn. all Figuera did is get rid of the attractive cogging setting it free from smog farting machines. 

 

Marathonman

 

Marathonman posted this 11 April 2018

Another  thing i would like to talk about is the FIguera's 1908 patent. when reading the patent one will soon realize Figuera was very, very cryptic in his wording exposing just enough of the device to (just) get the patent. i think if he exposed a little less they would of refused it.  even the picture he used was cryptic and so basic it would take very deep thought to realize what part G actually was. inductors back then were not used as much and definitely not as just a passive device as in present day usage. taking the passive inducting device and using it as an active device was sheer genius on Figuera's part.

Figuera also did NOT expose the whole system leaving out the connections and the device to where the charge separation actually took place and especially when an external power supply was connected to start the device in the first place. since i know part of the secondary output was connected to part G as it becomes the sole power supply there still has to be something that separates the charge when an external power supply is connected to start the device since the circuit is looped back to it's self for self running. this would stop a dead short from happening as the device is looped back to it's self. if not when the external power supply was connected sparks would fly to no end frying everything

if you see the first pic of Figuera's 1908 patent you will see that the circuit is totally incomplete. it has no charge separation shown with no sign of a  slip ring or rotating roller brush. totally cryptic to ward off the banksters in there attempt to take over the patent. that is why it was left alone and not altered. as for the rest of the patent i'm sure it was purposely destroyed as it probably contained the wiring schematic.

now, lets look at pic # 2 Buforn's patents. all of them show a box where the charge separation takes place. he exposes a little more in his haste to repatent Figuera's device which is actually illegal.  looking at the arrow #1 it shows a box where the charge separation took place. since diodes were not invented back then and the Tesla AC to DC patent was in 1889 i truly think Figuera used some sort of device that was similar to Tesla's device to achieve charge separation and an avenue to apply an external power supply to start the device.

arrow #2 shows the intention of the secondary loop back to part G. while again being cryptic not exposing the entire circuit. if a two or four pole commutator was attached to the motor and brush assembly, it would allow part of the secondary output potential to be directly infused into part G making it the sole power supply once the original starting supply was removed. if a two or four pole commutator was used and knowing that AC is cyclic then the positive rotating brush could be connected to one commutator side and remain positive at all times allowing the negative side to remain opposite from the positive brush at all times infusing potential into part G making it the sole power supply. the secondary supply would be absorbed into the magnetic field in the core of part G to both sides of the south south brush. the twin inductors would prevent a dead short scenario plus feeding the device.

in the picture above the box labeled #1 charge separator,  the single line to the rotating brush is positive and the two lines going to the inducers is negative.

even if a device like the Tesla AC to DC converter was used causing charge separation it would not impede the flow of currant from Part G to the input to the primary electromagnets. currant would therefore travel in the same direction at all times and allow part of the secondary output to part G be used in a positive manor aiding in the replacement of potential from the losses occurred from heat, IR2 and core losses. this device would allow an external supply to start the device and not impede the loop back function as part G is the sole supply feeding the primaries once the external is removed. 

another thing to consider that the starting supply can not be connected where the secondaries are because it would be a dead short to the secondary output so the above is the most logical thing to do. this was the last piece of the puzzle i needed to complete my device build and it came to me in a dream i had.

Thank you FIguera.

Marathonman

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Marathonman posted this 11 April 2018

Another thing i would like to bring up is even though the picture in the patent is in it's elementary form for the understanding Figuera did give a few subtle clues as to what the part G device really was.

in the pic below you will see what i mean and judge for your self. the first pic is an Inductor it has been used since the days of Pixii in France as the symbol for either a coil of wire or an inductor.

the second pic is the symbol used for a resistor since the days of Pixii in France and has NEVER changed.

the bottom pic is the elusive part G's so called resistance according to the patent of having some resistance. just look closely at those wavy lines. my oh my how does it look just exactly like the symbol of the Inductor used since darn near Pixii in France.

 

 Simple clues so highly overlooked, can you say INDUCTOR,  imagine that !

Marathonman

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Marathonman posted this 12 April 2018

In this graph Below you can see with the North >< North fields at the positive brush are what keeps the inductor sides separate from the currant flow from set N and set S. as the brush rotates adding or subtracting winding's and core on that side of the brush that causes the magnetic fields opposing the original currant flow to rise and fall in an orderly linear fashion from the self inductance being raised and lowered.

on the opposite side of the core from the N><N brush is the perfect place to introduce the secondary output.   if the secondary in being introduced here which will be negative in sign it will be opposing South><South fields at the brush since part G is wound CCW . what this will do is add to the cores magnetic fields if they are are in need of more potential from the losses occurred in it's function. this will allow part G to become the sole power supply once the starting supply is removed.

since a commutator is rotating with the brushes it can be used to always keep the secondary negative polarity in the opposite half of the core as to not interfere with the positive brush. so this means that the negative side and the positive side will always be opposite from one another.

i know this might sound a little confusing but if you study the graph, the rotation of the fields and the interaction of the currant you will begin to realize what i am trying to convey to everyone. the twin inductors will allow the currant to be absorbed into the magnetic field and not be a dead short as you might be thinking. as the negative secondary brush rotates towards the input from the primaries the potential will be at it's peak allowing that potential combined with the reducing primaries and the reducing half of part G combined giving an amplification of potential to the rising primaries. the magnetic fields are of course inside the core as this is just for visualization purposes.

 

 

Marathonman

 

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Marathonman posted this 13 April 2018

Correction;

On my previous post i had stated that the AC peak was in the middle of the core and that was wrong and i do apologize for this brain fart blunder. the peak of the AC wave from the secondary looped back to part G through the commutator and opposite the positive brush would be at the inputs from set N and set S. this added to the reducing primaries and the reducing side of part G will give the amplification factor i had previously talked about.

I will correct my previous post and post a graph showing the correction and positions of the brush as the secondary is added to Part G.

Again i do apologize for this mistake on my part as yesterday i was not feeling well.

 

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 13 April 2018

Please excuse the poor graphics but i am sure the point will still be conveyed.

if you look at the graph you will see that as the secondary output is at it's peak it will be at the input of the low side of part G and primary either set N or set S.  since the reduction of the primaries magnetic field is being released as is the low side of part G's inductor,  the potential from the secondary and the other two will give the amplification to the rising side of part G and the primaries boosting the output to the secondaries. by looping the secondary back to part G through a commutator it will allow the device to be self sustaining as we are basically replacing the losses from the system in the inducing side which is a closed  system. the commutator keeps the negative side of the secondary AC wave turned to DC in the opposite side of the positive brush at all times. the same is true for the positive side of the AC wave as it keeps both positive side together.

and this my friends is how Figuera loped his secondaries back to the system to attain self sustainment.

 

 Welcome to my world and the World of Clemente Figuera,  the infinite energy machine.

Marathonman

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Marathonman posted this 13 April 2018

Here is basically what the whole thing (Part G) will look like when i am done building it. a rework of the brush holder is required as the neck was not long enough to add the 4 pole commutator.

 

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Marathonman posted this 13 April 2018

With this device we are getting the exact same results as Chris is in some coils buck and some coils don't. 

Energy "Generation" without loading the Source Magnetic Field

the magnetic fields are free to move in the system and that they do from side to side as one is raised and one is lowered. this is to get motion into the secondary moving it's opposing field back and fourth over the Electric field.

there is Zero Lenz Law drag on the primaries magnetic fields as their fields are outside of the core in the space occupied by the secondary. these two fields are basically balancing the forces between the primaries just lowering one to clear the secondary them back to full potential as the other is being reduced. since the magnetic field resides outside of the core we have the same ability to reduce the cost of producing the magnetic field in the first place which is the IR2 losses. a simple act of raising an electromagnet  and lowering the other doubles the kinetic energy rate.

thank you Chris for your fine work in the field of bucking Coil fields.

We just changed the world today.

 

Marathonman

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Marathonman posted this 14 April 2018

Partial Quote from Ed Leedskalnin 1936.

 

"and if you believe in things that cannot be proved, any feeble minded person can lead you" 

this is exactly what the universities are doing with Status quo BS taught in schools around the world. not only that their are massive trolls in other well known forums that try to badmouth and discredit peoples work on a daily basis even though they have NEVER tried to replicate the experiment themselves. they simply assign themselves as as the authority in the field and state it can not happen.

 

what i have shown you here in this thread can be verified at your own home at any time. the magnet test that prove the validity of the Figuers device. it is a rather easy inexpensive test that shows the reducing magnet or electromagnets Electric field is reversed to match that of the incoming or increasing electromagnet therefore more than doubles the output of one alone.

there was a person that made a video on my advice with an variac using DC with 12 volt bulbs attached to the output. when the knob was twisted the currant was reduced or raised in unison. what this did is change the circuit parameters magnetically linking or unlinking winding's just as i have been saying, as long as there is continual movement of the knob or brush currant can be controlled.

there are a few other ways to test self inductance with DC and i will leave it to the readers to do those tests to prove the validity for yourselves. i already know self inductance in a closed core using DC and a rotating contact changes currant so the rest is up to you.

I have provided a mountain of information and i hope the readers have enough to begin testing and eventually build the Figuera device.

if God willing i will be completed by this summer. money is tight ill do the best i can.

 

 

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 16 April 2018

Part G self induction;

Graph position.

A. set N is at it's highest peak potential with very little self induction (reverse EMF) resistance to original currant flow. the size of the inductor is very small. set S on the other hand has a very large inductor that has a lot of resistance to currant flow allowing less currant to flow. set N is storing into the magnetic field and set S has released it's magnetic potential.

B. set N currant is decreasing as the size of the inductor is increasing with more resistance to currant flow. set S inductor size is decreasing, less resistance to currant flow. at this point the inductance is equal and both primaries are even. here set N is releasing it's magnetic potential and set S is storing the magnetic potential

C. set S  inductor is at it's highest potential and smallest size allowing with the least resistance allowing the most currant to flow. set N inductor is at it's largest having the most resistance to currant flow. here set S is highest stored potential and set N has release  it's magnetic potential

D. Set S inductor is increasing in size with more magnetic resistance (reverse EMF) to currant flow. set N inductance is decreasing in size with less resistance to currant flow allowing more currant to flow. at this point again inductance is equal and both primaries are even. here set S is releasing it's magnetic potential and set N is storing it's magnetic potential.

A starts the cycle all over.

in this process of brush rotation we have a linear rise and fall of currant with both set N and set S in complete unison.  each side storing or releasing it's magnetic potential combined with the other released potential of the reducing primaries aided by the secondary output replacing losses.  the increase and decrease of magnetic field potential amplified by the iron core increases or decreases the Reverse EMF to the original currant flow.

 Lenz's law states that an induced current has a direction such that its magnetic field opposes the change in magnetic field that induced the current. if the number of turns in the coil is increased, the amount of induced voltage will also increase.

 

 

 

Marathonman

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Marathonman posted this 16 April 2018

Inductive Reactance

The reduction of current flow in a circuit due to induction is called inductive reactance. By taking a closer look at a coil of wire and applying Lenz's law, it can be seen how inductance reduces the flow of current in the circuit. In the image below, the direction of the primary current is shown in red, and the magnetic field generated by the current is shown in blue. The direction of the magnetic field can be determined by taking your right hand and pointing your thumb in the direction of the current. Your fingers will then point in the direction of the magnetic field. It can be seen that the magnetic field from one loop of the wire will cut across the other loops in the coil and this will induce current flow (shown in green) in the circuit. According to Lenz's law, the induced current must flow in the opposite direction of the primary current. The induced current working against the primary current results in a reduction of current flow in the circuit.

It should be noted that the inductive reactance will increase if the number of winds in the coil is increased since the magnetic field from one coil will have more coils to interact with.

 

 

Similarly to resistance, inductive reactance reduces the flow of current in a circuit. However, it is possible to distinguish between resistance and inductive reactance in a circuit by looking at the timing between the sine waves of the voltage and current of the alternating current. In an AC circuit that contains only resistive components, the voltage and the current will be in-phase, meaning that the peaks and valleys of their sine waves will occur at the same time. When there is inductive reactance present in the circuit, the phase of the current will be shifted so that its peaks and valleys do not occur at the same time as those of the voltage. in a DC circuit this is not so.

Self inductance or Inductance

The above scenario is when using AC with DC we have a whole new ball game. in a DC operated device it is called self inductance or inductance. since DC is a semi steady state how are we to get the same reactions of currant reduction simular to that of AC which is alternating currant.

 

 we have to make some kind of changes to the circuit to cause the magnetic field to change in intensity that causes the field to interact with the windings next to it to produce the reverse EMF to oppose the original currant flow. something has to move to induce a change. there are three ways to achieve this 1. change the currant like AC does. 2. change the magnetic field. 3. change the circuit parameters...ie the length, core and winding count which in turn changes the magnetic field that changes the currant flow.

Any alteration to a circuit which increases the flux (total magnetic field) through the circuit produced by a given current increases the inductance, because inductance is also equal to the ratio of magnetic flux to current.

this is what the positive brush does. as it rotates it is magnetically linking or unlinking to the circuit and it is this that causes the magnetic field to change that produces the reverse EMF to the original currant flow. in the AC device the currant up or down causes the reaction,  in the DC circuit the circuit increasing or decreasing  in size is what causes the currant change.

The AC device is static but the alternating currant causes the change.

In the DC device in order to get the changes the device has to be changed from a static device to a dynamic device thus the use of a positive rotating brush allows this device to have currant changes dynamically on the fly.

If the device operation was static the magnetic field would even out over a short time and allow a steady currant to flow so in order to get a constant currant rise and fall the circuit has to be constantly changed in length adding or subtracting winding's and core material dynamically as the brush rotates.

and this my friends is how Figuera's part G operates.

 

Marathonman

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Marathonman posted this 16 April 2018

With the two primaries in opposition we have the fields highly compressed between the two Electromagnets that will accelerate the electron kinetic energies boosting the output beyond that of a single electromagnet.

in the first graph we have two opposing electromagnet field in a static scenario we end up having the primary magnetic fields in opposition (Scalar Direction) and also the electric fields in opposition. since the electric fields (Scalar Direction)  are in opposition we will get little to no output and actually get more with just one electromagnet.

in the second graph we have the switching like that of the Figuera device with one increasing and one decreasing. in this scenario the electric field of the reducing electromagnet is reversed to match that of the rising electromagnet's electric field just like that of a bar magnet taken in and out from a coil of wire.

therefore both electromagnets electric fields are coherent more than doubling the output of just one electromagnet alone.

in both cases the magnetic fields of the opposing electromagnets will remain in opposition at all times but the only time both electric fields (Scalar Directions) can be positive and additive are when they are switched like that of the Figuera device therefore doubling the output with increases kinetic energy.

the purple area is the highly compressed lined of force thus the increased kinetic energy of the circular electric field. the higher the compression the higher the kinetic energy.

 

Marathonman

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EmilP posted this 16 April 2018

Dear Mr. Marathonman,

I read all the posts and have some suggestions:

1. Part G would be good to be totally independent of the rest of the configuration for better testing of variants, regardless of the configuration of the toroid, conductor coils, etc.

2. In the case of the final version, the brush can be used directly on the toroid, but on the inside of the toroid, to use the centrifugal force to press harder on the toroidal windings. (one problem is: copper is softer and will be rubbed).

I studied on a car distributor rotor that exactly what it does (send the spark to spark plugs) and is balanced for high speeds. The rotor contact is made in distributor cap and is made of a hard material.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/mq8AAOSw8d5ZSPwR/s-l1600.jpg

Sorry for my english, I'm using Google Translate.

Yours,

Emil Platon

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Marathonman posted this 16 April 2018

EmilP;

The brush wear is quite minimal when using a surface grinder at the speed it is used at. this will allow the brush to spin spark free and has very, very little brush wear.

I do appreciate the feed back but i have already have performed so many test on the device operation.  i am not quite sure on you point you are trying to convey.

Yes the original was possibly an inner spinning device but there is no way anyone can make that with ease as the average person does not have that equipment to do so. using the core as i have suggested will not allow the brush to lift off in rotation thus achieve it's desired objective. there is a device built in the USA right now that uses this style of set up with no problems at all.

The use of PNP's can be used in the situation you are describing about the distributor but i myself will not pursue that avenue just yet until i have completed the original build.

Figuera used a rotating wheel brush in the original device but that is hard to impliment. yes there will be slightly more wear on the brush but it is less than you think.

as for part G, it is simple but simplex. it uses self inductance rather than resistors to control currant and also stores and releases currant at the right time to amplify the potential to the rising electromagnet. what a sweet set up.

Glad you decided to come aboard EmilP. as you see i have posted a boat load more of info. all i can say is google your butt off as i am glade to have people around the world see just what this device can do.

PS. part G is to a very vital part of this system so i really don;t understand the part of independent study your are referring to.

We can change this crappy world we live in.

 

Marathonman

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Hopeful1 posted this 17 April 2018

marathonman

"Thank you" seems inadequate. What is missing from most forums is someone who is unselfish enough to share ALL their research and discoveries for the betterment of mankind. On this site there is none of that, only like minded people who want to see man progress.  I have had this patent saved for a lot of years and understood the basics of how it works, but thanks to your work i may someday be able to make it work. Thank you again.

Tony

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Marathonman posted this 17 April 2018

Hopeful1, Tony;

  OMG !  i'm filled with joy that i connected so profoundly enough with someone to post a comment like that. i have to admit that was one hell of a positive comment and i do thank you so much. i have not a greedy bone in my body and will spend my last dollar on my fellow man to make sure he has a shirt on his back or a meal to eat.

I dedicated my life to this device and  i am quite sure from your response i definitely got through to you. my only hope is that i have gotten through to the rest of the world in the process.

I try to describe the best i can in detail the actions of this device at a level that everyone can understand. my only hope is that i have gotten to 10,000 more so if i am eliminated it will go on.

I do thank you and if there is a question that arises please feel free to ask as i do not have a thing to hide.

I am the servant of humanity as so God told me . my mind is your mine so i share my work freely as god's gift is of humanity.

Thank you again.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 17 April 2018

If you haven't already noticed Figuera was a sheer Genius of the fact that using the reducing magnetic fields to his advantage aiding the device in a very positive way.

take the primaries for instance, powering up the primaries to full potential will have a  very nice magnetic field projecting out of it's core. since we all know now that once that magnetic field is established the power to maintain said field will be reduced to the IR2 losses of the wire. as per Sparky Sweet that field is essentially separate from the currant which becomes the property of incoherent  energy Quanta . when the primary electromagnet is reduced to induce motion into the secondary it releases that potential amount of reduction from the field in the same direction it was traveling in the first place. since it is traveling in the same direction it will be added into part G. 

Now at the same time part G's reducing half is doing the exact same thing releasing it's reduced potential in the same direction it was traveling in the first place. now you have the reducing primaries potential added to the reducing potential of part G's inductor and at that very same time the secondaries potential will be added also. these potentials combined give an amplification to the rising  primaries boosting it's output to the secondaries.

since we all know that when an an inductor is increasing,  storing into it's magnetic field there will be a potential drop across the conductor. this is also true for the increasing primary electromagnet as they are storing into the magnetic field. as there will be a potential drop across both of them the potentials from the reducing magnetic field offsets these potential drop giving an amplification to the rising sides of the device.

this action happens twice in every rotation each reducing side feeding the increasing side in one half then the opposite takes place in the other half.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 17 April 2018

Keep things adjustable when building the Figuera device.  since the primaries are exact copies of each other plus i put them on bobbins allows me to have adjustment done on the fly.

also on part G once it is wound will not be so adjustable so by using the adjustable post like below will allow you to adjust the balance of the primaries if needed. they are cheap as in a few dollars and save a hell of a lot of time.

 

Taking the screw out and flipping the tab allows you to use it much better than the original way.

 

 

now it can be slid very easily, they can take fairly thick wire and a lot of amps to boot. this makes it easier to adjust since part G is one continuous wind. when winding part G remember to wind CW as that will give a north north field at the brush and since it is a continuous wind i would suggest to start between set N and set S then use the connectors above for adjustment.

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Marathonman posted this 17 April 2018

This post is dedicated to the brain dead people that still think part G is resistors.

And i quote from Wikipedia on Inductance;

Any alteration to a circuit which increases the flux (total magnetic field) through the circuit produced by a given current increases the inductance, because inductance is also equal to the ratio of magnetic flux to current.

That means larger inductor = less currant flow smaller inductor = more currant flow and as the brush is constantly rotating so is the size of the inductor on either side of the brush.

now i think that is all i have to say about that. if you still don't get it i guess i am through.

Resistors waste potential as heat Inductors store and release potential.

Marathonman posted this 18 April 2018

Another thing i would like to talk about is deciding on the amount of output. once the amount of output has been decided for your project that output can be divided between how ever many core you want. it takes 14.8 lbs pressure PSI for every kilowatt of power at around 33,000 line PSI so that can be divided between how ever many cores or pressure you feel comfortable in dealing with.

hypothetically lets say you want 15 kilowatts output. divide that by how ever many secondary cores you want or the pressures you feel comfortable in dealing with. lets say we want 12 core sets, 15 kilowatts divided by 12 cores is 1250 watts per secondary core.

so the output has been decided at 15 kilowatts. that equals 222 lbs pressure between the primaries. if it was one set then the size of the cores would be very huge plus the pressure is quite high between them and could potentially be dangerous. that pressure can be divided between many other core with a pressure you feel comfortable in dealing with. so we have 12 core sets, that is 222 divided by 12 = 18.5 lbs pressure per core set between the primaries. since each primary is accountable for half of that output each primary needs to have 9.25 lbs of force.

always remember to start with the secondary and work your way back. the secondary core size must be able to handle the output you are trying to achieve. so from the above scenario each secondary is accountable for 1250 watts. and remember it must be able to handle this with no distortion (saturation)  so leave a little headroom. then you match the primary to the secondary output you need. so as you see from above the primaries in order to achieve a 1250 watt output from the secondary they needs to have 9.25 lbs force from each primary.

also remember the primaries are not controlling the currant flow, that is the job of part G so they are to be would specifically as electromagnets which is NOT according to present day teaching. the secondary on the other hand IS wound according to present day teachings as any standard present day generator output would be.

another thing to remember is the size of the wire in part G. since part G will become the power supply once the starting power is removed, it must be able to handle the power requirements with ease and the less resistance the better. with any power supply the sum of all the lower parts add up to the final load plus headroom. part G is no exception and this must be considered when building. please also remember the core of part G must be able to handle the load plus headroom.

the secondaries can be series or paralleled to attain the desired currant and voltage you are so seeking. also the use of laminated core material is highly recommended. since there will be considerable amount of mathematical calculation when dealing with foreign core material,  it is best to use material that has known output for the amount of material used. manufacture can usually provide these calculation to ease this burden which equates to a specific output per lb of core material. the secondaries can then be calculated from these figures then the primaries from that.

always leave headroom in all core as saturation is the enemy.

 

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 18 April 2018

Winding the Primaries;

  Since the whole objective of the primaries are to put out the strongest magnetic field possible with out saturating them or having high resistance and slow reaction times within the boundaries you have set a few steps can be taken to accomplish this.

the single most valuable technique to get the strongest possible electromagnet is to wind the coil the entire length of the core as this will utilize all the magnetic domains in the core.  leave as little of space as possible with your configuration.

another technique is the winding style. if i used one single wind of say 6 layers then the coil will have higher resistance, capacitance and inductance. since the whole idea is to have the strongest electromagnet that is also fast responding to currant changes.

by splitting the winding up in layers the response time can be significantly reduced it could either be wound up and back 3 times or all single winding attached at the ends. what this will do is significantly reduce the resistance, capacitance and inductance of the coil thus substantially increasing the reaction time of the electromagnet to currant changes.

there are also things to consider from Tesla . Tesla wound an electromagnet as single layers then attached the back of the winding to the next wire beginning. what this did was allow the currant to always be traveling in the same direction so each layer vector direction were in the same direction. in a standard winding of 6 layers each other winding's vector direction is in the opposite direction. this seams rather odd thinking but when you wind a coil with the Tesla style with the same size core and winding's the Tesla style will be much stronger EVERY TIME but the resistance will be higher than that of the 3 layer as above..

these are just some of the factors to consider when trying to wind the most efficient and responsive electromagnet you can.

PS. the use of a round core will use the least amount of wire compared to a square core but a square laminated core is much easier to make or attain than a laminated round core. the bobbin making PDF i posted some time ago will make winding the coils much easier and to make adjustments.

 

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 19 April 2018

I have been testing the commutators in the effort to loop back the secondary output to part G. the 2 pole would not work so i moved then to a 4 pole but it seems to spark a little to much when the off time comes around as there is still to much power flowing from the AC tests i performed. i then moved to an 8 pole commutator and have had very good results. what i did was connect 3 sections together on each side and one off section in between those on each side. 

what this did was give me on time of 135 degrees and an off time of 45 degrees. as you can see from the graphs below the gold segments are the commutator that shows where set N and S are in relation to the brushes and the commutator. the graph below that is the AC wave form from the secondary that shows the on time and the off time in relation to the first graph. this is in relation to the secondary output loop back only. 

so far everything seems to work just fine so by the time my new core arrives i will be rockin and rollin.

 

 

 

Marathonman

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Marathonman posted this 19 April 2018

Just ordered Aluminum Round Bar 6061-T6 (6") from on OnlineMetals.com for my new brush holder design. the extruded seems to be the cheapest way out but has very good qualities. i have a company ready to do the CNC machining on it when it arrives and the adjustable part that holds the brush.  with two set screws it will attach to my small three phase motor with controller to rotate it at 3600 RPM. the controller takes 12 volts up to 10 amps but i will not need all that to rotate it at 3600 RPM. it is at another location right now but here is a pic of the motor i will be using.

 

since i do not have the machines to do it myself i have to pay to get it done. i guess that's life on earth as we are the only creature on Earth that has to pay to live.

 

Marathonman

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Marathonman posted this 19 April 2018

I forgot to add the solenoid calc tool i have been using. it really comes in handy when designing coils and such. use the relative permeability of 200 for iron as far as i know. i really wish it had a button for changing core material but it is what it is.

it also has other useful calc tools on hand like around 200.

http://www.calctool.org/CALC/phys/electromagnetism/solenoid

 

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 20 April 2018

As you have read from my posts you might have realized that trying to replace part G with electronics will be a very difficult task to accomplish. to mimic the brushes rotation would require a lot of PNP transistors in a make before break scenario, meaning another one next to it has to be on before the last one turns off. beside the fact that the core can not be replaced as the inductor functions of storing and releasing potentials is a vital part of the core.

this is why i am building as close to the original as i can even though part G's original brush rotated on the inside it could still work as i am building with no brush lift. as long as the original function of part G are retained there should be no problems at all. and this is reality as i have had no problems with my test on part G and brush lift.

another thing to consider is if one would get the idea of using transistors they would have to exactly mimic BOTH brush rotations at the same time and this will not be an easy task.

besides building the original will allow you to gain a lot of knowledge and insight of the working parameters of inductance and magnetics then maybe some time in the future you could try your hand in a totally non moving device.

this device reuses all the potential through out the circuit that is why it is most fascinating to me and one of a kind device as all of our present day devices waste potential like no tomorrow.

 

Marathonman 

Marathonman posted this 20 April 2018

So basically what part G does as the brush rotates is change the ratio of magnetic field to the amount of currant. as the brush rotates the amount of winding's change magnetically linking to the circuit increasing the magnetic field. since self inductance is the reverse EMF that opposes currant flow in the first place the more winding's we add the more opposition to the original currant flow we will have. the opposite is also true, the less winding's we have in the inductor the less the magnetic field the less opposition to currant flow. with a currant rise in the increasing side of part G's magnetic field it is gaining in intensity but the overall space occupied storing the increased potential is small with little reverse EMF.

the iron in the core will enhance the reverse EMF aiding the self inductance of the inductor. if it was an air core the currant reduction would not take place so the addition of the core thus amplifies self inductance to the point of  linear currant reduction. since the real currant flow is from negative to positive the currant flowing into part G from both set N and set S will cause an North><North opposing magnetic fields at the brush and it is these fields that keep the two side of the inductor separate at all times. so what we end up having is one huge inductor separated by magnetic fields divided into two at the brush each acting separate but in complete unison.

we have as the brush rotates  two inductors either increasing or decreasing in length,  increasing or decreasing the reverse EMF to the original currant flow that causes a complete orderly rise or fall of currant in a linear fashion. then to top that off as the currant is reduced the reduction in the field will release that reduce part into the system aided by the reducing primary's potential plus the secondary loop back causing an amplification of potential to the rising primary. 

now tell that to someone classically trained in present day dogma taught schools and step back and watch the sparks fly.

 

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 20 April 2018

This is a quote from Aubrey Scoons that replicated Royal Rife's work;

"DON’T BE FOOLED!

Complexity does not equal credibility. Just the opposite in fact. Anyone who has genuine insight will be able to explain to you in simple language exactly what they mean and you will then be able to verify it with known scientific fact. If they can’t.....well, what do you think?"

This is why i choose to explain things in detail but at a level everyone can understand. it is usually the troll or the Ney Sayers that try to use words that you can't understand or even dishonest tactics to discredit/belittle you.

quote from another forum troll; " I say show me the empirical data. You clearly don't comprehend the meaning of empirical."

See this is a clear tactic of a troll and a shill either using big words or moving to belittlement to discredit the person in question in front of his peers.

This site does not do that at all. we are here to share our work in an effort to enlighten.

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 21 April 2018

Holy crap, i just received my order from OnlineMetals.com to day.

24 hours it was at my front door, now that's very impressive.

This will be turned into,

 

This.

 

the first adjustable brush holder that i know of from 2" to almost 6".

Marathonman

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Marathonman posted this 22 April 2018

There is a contoversial subject i would like to present here when dealing with the Electric field.

last year i read an article about some studies a person did on motors.  what it was about was the starting and restarting of an electric motor. in the first test the individual started an electric motor and it took 300 watts draw to get the motor up to speed.  he then shut the motor off and let it sit for a very short time and restarted the motor again. this time the motor only took 150 watts to get to full running speed.

you have to ask yourself why did the motor only take 150 watts the second time, well i think it was the actions of the electric fields surounding the motor. in the actions of raising and lowering a magnetic field the field reacts rather quickly but in this case i think their was a remnant electric field that does not react as fast as the magnetic fields do either that or it just remains their longer.

in the Figuers device even though the magnetic fields are raised and lowered in a timely manor and the fact that two opposing magnetic fields can not occupy the same realative space in space at the same time,  i personally think that the Electric fields do no retreat like that of the magnetic fields.  if the magnetic field is at full potential at one side of the secondary then lowered to the other side as the other increases the Electric field starts from one end of the secondary to the other end of the secondary as it is being reduced. since the Electric fields are possitive and additive this tells me that the Electric fields are not as fast as the magnetic fields or just remain in that space for a time longer than that of the magnetic field.

so therefore i believe that the Electric fields remain in space longer than the magnetic fields do allowing them to be positive and additive and it would seem there are remnant Electric field as the magnetic fields retreat in the space that was previously occupied by the magnetic field. even though the magnetic fields retreat the door to the Dielectric sea remains open for a brief moment allowing both Primary Electromagnets Electric fields to be positive and additive.

i know this sounds a little on the wild side but it is just my observations in my research in magnetism and the Electric fields.

just a few cents worth that's all.

 

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 22 April 2018

Years ago i had a person share with me information on the Figuera device. ever since then i have completely infatuated with this device. in the investigation of part G core geometry it was possible that the origin was was from Zeiss as the part was ordered from Germany right after his partner Abby invented means for controlling a high intensity light for his microscopes.

even though the original part could have been an E.I. core and made to look like a ring in the patent the person in question build part G on a ring core made from an alternator core of 100 amp. it worked but it was according to him a total bitch to balance from peak to peak of the primaries. i have been pursuing this avenue since and have experience first hand the problems of the balancing issues. the device works but again i am experiencing balancing issues just like he did.

in my proposal a few weeks ago i have stated that i came up with a way to eliminate or minimize the balancing issues with the ring type core. what i came up with is a wide C core split on the ends not in the center like most to give me a nice flat top to wind on. this will allow me to wind part G with ease and minimize the balancing issues plus retain all the wonderful functions part G is capable of.

so on that note i just placed an order with BridgePort Magnetic for a wide C core and i will get it in three weeks. i will post pics when the building begins and i am expecting wonderful results as i will have the adjustable brush holder also with brushes, commutator and slip ring coming from Eurton Electric.

I will still continue with the original design also so i will have two forms of part G to work with as both are a viable option. always remember part G has to be a closed core. trying to use an open core will result in massive flux leakage and losses of flux needed for self sustainment.

 

Marathonman

 

Marathonman posted this 23 April 2018

When assembling part G remember that the brush must be able to span no less than two wires minimum at a time.  this is called make before break and is a technique used to avoid any sparking by making contact with the next one in front of it before breaking contact with the one behind it.

it states this in the patent quote; " and always in contact with more than one contact, rotates the brush."

so you see the brush has to be in contact with no less than two and even better three as this will be an avenue for the secondary to infuse it's  output looping back to part G on the opposite side of the positive brush. the patent even states brush or group of brushes so this confirms what i have just said.

 

Marathonman

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Marathonman posted this 24 April 2018

I just received an email that Eurton is shipping my brushes, slip rings and commutator for my new part G.

The other part G is being worked on by a tech friend of mine to see if the balancing issue can be resolved in another way. it works and i am getting a good output but it is still not right as it should be putting out more than it is.

the new build will be way easier to balance plus the new brush holder will be adjustable to dial in exact window of reduction.

another thing that was realized through the rewind of the primaries were that of the winding's. even though i have stated the winding direction which is correct being CW,  i realized that the start and finish can be on the same end then connecting the three sets  together thus lowering the resistance and increasing the speed. this also gets the wires out of the way between the secondary and the primaries allowing more room for adjustments.

Keeping things adjustable will come in handy during the final tuning stage getting the balancing just right.

 

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 25 April 2018

Again i can not emphasize the importance when winding your electromagnets specifically as electromagnets. there is no reason to wind them with high resistance to control currant as that is the job of part G. why add more complexity to the system then need be. winding them specifically as electromagnets will allow them to adapt to the changes in currant darn near instantly maintaining the coherency needed between the primaries.

also you have to realize that the peak currant when the electromagnet is high is such a short time frame that the the wire will not burn up. hypothetically if i was to use say 18 awg wire for my primaries. even though the rating for that wire is low and you exceeded that for a fraction of milliseconds it will not have any ill effects. if a steady currant exceeding the rating was applied it of course would heat and burn up. 

so even though you might exceed the rating of the wire the time frame it is at peak currant flow will be in the low hundred microsecond range and that is not enough time to harm the wire.

example;  say the brush on part G is traveling at 3600 which is the RPM required to get 60 HZ out of the secondary for the US. since there are 1000 milliseconds  in a second divided by 60 revolurions per second = 16.66 milliseconds per revolution.  now divide 16.66 by the number of winding's that make contact with the brush as it rotates and hypothetically lets say 60 in it's complete rotation. that ends up to be .277 which is 277 microseconds per winding but the ends are on for twice as long as the ones in the middle so it ends up being 554 microseconds.

so you see the primary currant at it's peak is only on for 554 microseconds and this is way to short of a time to heat up a wire let along burn it up.

just a few things to keep in mind when winding your electromagnets SPECIFICALLY AS ELECTROMAGNETS.

 

Marathonman

 

Marathonman posted this 25 April 2018

So basically what part G does as the brush rotates is change the ratio of magnetic field to the amount of currant. 

the fact is the effects of an inductor taken from a static device that opposes the currant for a short time then rising to a steady state. so in order to get the same reaction of the inductor but at a continuous basis we need to take it from a static device to an active device.

 so lets talk about this since a few are still having a little trouble with this statement.

Quote from Wikipedia; 

"Any alteration to a circuit which increases the flux (total magnetic field) through the circuit produced by a given current increases the inductance, because inductance is also equal to the ratio of magnetic flux to current."

now would you not think that as the brush rotates around the core is not an "Alteration" of the circuit. ? and would it not change the magnetic field increasing or decreasing which is the ratio of magnetic field to currant, why sure in hell it is.

this is why the part G inductor changes the currant as the brush rotates around the core. it changes the ratio of magnetic field per the amount of currant increasing and decreasing the size of the inductor on both sides of the brush separated by two North><North magnetic fields allowing them to remain completely separate but in complete unison.

the currant running through the wire causes a magnetic field around the wires and it is this magnetic field that strikes the winding next to it that causes the reverse EMF to form that opposes the original currant flow. the more winding's that magnetically link to the circuit the more opposition to currant flow. thus the reverse is true, the less winding's that magnetically link to the system the less opposition to currant flow.

So as the brush rotates around the core making contact with more than one contact at a time in a make before break scenario, the winding's are magnetically linking or unlinking to each side of the circuit on each side of the positive brush where the North North fields keep them separate. allowing them to increase or decrease in size thus changing the ratio of magnetic field to currant thus changing the currant on a complete orderly basis.

another fact is while the inductor on one side of the brush is increasing in size it is releasing the reduced potential into the system feeding the increasing primary electromagnet while the other side is reducing in size  storing into the magnetic field to feed the next rising primary electromagnet.

 

Marathonman

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Marathonman posted this 26 April 2018

As you can read part G is simplex. it is very simple but has a myriad of functions all happening at the same time. the very use of an inductor has so many confused but hopefully though my posts i have cleared some confusion toward part G.

most have a mind set that an inductor can only be used as a passive device which was handed down from generation after generation from the Dogma taught Government controlled school system that was implemented by good ole J.P. Morgan.

 

The facts i have presented can be verified by EVERY reader that reads this thread, that proves an inductor can be brought from a passive device to an active device and used in a dynamic state. i have posted the dynamics of how self inductance takes place,  the steps taken to get continuous increase or decrease of currant flow then taking the stored magnetic field of the inductor or electromagnet and using them in a very positive manor.

it behoves everyone that reads this thread to perform the suggested test that not only prove the validity of the  North North primary electromagnets but also the validity of part G. all test performed have been proven on the bench and backed up with Physics and science.

 

using a core and winding the primaries and the secondaries on the same core is NOT the Figuera device in any way shape or form and is just a transformer. anyone that says any different is a complete fool and does not know the difference between a transformer and a Generator in the first place and needs a reality check. i am stating the facts of the Figuera device alone and no assumption towards other devices.

the Figuera device being a Generator, separates the primaries from the secondaries for certain reasons. if the primaries were to be on the same core it would cause the transfer of Hysteresis and eddy currant to the primaries which would cause the reduction of magnetic field resulting in large heat losses in the primaries. by remaining separate the magnetic fields from the primaries resides in a space outside of it's core which is the space occupied by the secondary.  this allows the primaries to do the intended job of being electromagnets and have no ill effects from the secondary what so ever.

BUCKING FIELDS OPENS THE GATEWAY TO VAST AMOUNTS OF ENERGY.

reading and understanding the patent is such a vital step in the replication of this device but researching and testing on the bench proving it's operation of each device opens the door to knowledge and is the gateway to a complete self running device with not only this device but other in the past and future.

i hope these post from me will help the readers in the understanding of this well forgotten device and bring it's long forgotten simple technology to the present day that can do nothing but aide in the advancement of HUMANITY.

 

Love and peace not war and hatred.

 

Marathonman

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Marathonman posted this 27 April 2018

Well just received my order from Eurton Electric and what a bummer. in the pic bellow you will see why it is a bummer.

it seems that the info posted on their website was wrong about the commutator. it was suppose to be 15 mm bore but as you can see it is around 7mm bore. so i called and got it squared away so they fixed the wrong info. since they did not have an 8 section commutator with the proper bore i had to move to a 16 section commutator with 17 mm bore.

so now both slip rings and commutator will be 17 mm bore so the shaft of the brush holder need only be one size shaft of 17 mm.

More delays, oh boy !

 

Marathonman

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EmilP posted this 28 April 2018

As an alternative to using brushes, you could replace with

heat treated copper, which has some spring to it.

I am with you in the effort to achieve the Figuera prototype.

Thank you for sharing your ideas and the progress of your work.

 

 

EmilP

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Marathonman posted this 28 April 2018

You still seem to have the mind set that the brush will wear down in a week. in reality the brush when built properly will have very little wear as the surface should be hit with a high speed surface grinder for precision. the brush will then last a very long time.

using heat treated copper will have the same effect as a brush and i see no difference between the two as the friction will still be the same.

The use of  roller brush's could be an option for you since you seem a little freaked out about the brush wear. i have thought a little about it but they are very hard to find or build. it could be an option for you.

The idea's you so refer to is reality of this device and not opinion or speculation. with near 6 years of research into just this device alone i tend not to speculate and rely solely on provable bench findings.

and you are absolutely welcome EmilP.

we as a human race are on the brink of destruction and the extinction of humanity. if we don't work together the Elite shills will kill us all so i think this device might help to turn the tide. when shit hits the fan people are going to need electricity to heat their homes and grow food 24/7 and this device just might fit the bill.

all the information i have provided plus the final build spects will be put on am M disc that will last 100 years plus i will make it downloadable for everyone to have access to.

 

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 28 April 2018

Brush wear;

  I have devices in the home i live in that has been running for 7 plus years with the same brushes. so if i need to change the brushes in my part G every 7 plus years i really think i can live with that. having built the device i think i could change the brushes rather easily or build a spare part G with the money i saved on electricity which would be in the thousands.

if the brushes lasted 7 years and say i had a 150 a month average electric bill i have saved 12,600 dollars in 7 years. i think i can afford a new set of brushes or a rewind of part G so i don't see the point you are trying to make. to me the brush wear is insignificant and your time should be utilized in the understanding of the device and the building of it instead of trying to make improvements. that is like the apple in front of the horse, it chases the apple but never gets to it. 

there are a few clown on OU that are trying to improve the device with resonance and other things and both of them have never ever built the device in the first place thus the lack of understanding of it's function.

i think one of the most important aspects is understanding what is in front of you first instead of blindly jumping in with both feet. i have posted a mountain of info that should be read, studied and understood.

Marathonman

 

EmilP posted this 28 April 2018

Your brushes are the ideal case, I have just presented a simpler alternative to tests.

On rollers I saw a sparkle in a video.

I have the electricity on hydro (a small creek) that offers me 1.5kw with which I assure the house needs and hot water.

The heat is made with wood, and that's why I want to make the Figuera device, as time passes, I get older, and it will be hard for me to hang on to the stoves in the house.

I've done all sorts of home automation and I think I'll do it with you too.

Thank you again.

EmilP

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Marathonman posted this 28 April 2018

EmilP:

This is off topic but wrap copper pipe around the exhaust from the wood stove with many wraps with insulation then get insulated drum or drums with a 12 volt pump and circulate the hot water around the house. this stores the hot water for shower purposes and heats your home for much longer time than the wood can by it's self.  one good fire in the stove can heat water for days of shower and heat if insulated properly.

Good to have you aboard.

Marathonman

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onepower posted this 28 April 2018

To brush or not to brush is the question?.

Given the choice I would rather change brushes every five years rather than change oil every 5000 Km and fill my gas tank twice a week. I would be happy to change those brushes knowing that power bill and that heating bill most pay was not coming in the mail. I would take care and patience changing those brushes making sure everything was just right because they represent my freedom and independence from a system bound to consume itself.

We should note there are no electronics to my knowledge which can handle a stray 50 Kv voltage spike yet a brush has no problem with it. Even a small carbon brush can handle a periodic 600 amp discharge which is not true of most electronics. In fact it is the most robust switch one can have in our toolbox.

Never underestimate the virtues of simplicity.

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Marathonman posted this 28 April 2018

Exactly my point, why over complicate things when it is not needed. part G is very simple but has many functions that are being overlooked in the shadow of a stupid resistor that does nothing but waste potential as heat needlessly. or even the fact that people's first reaction now a days to to grab a bunch of electronic parts and believe it is going to work, why everyone is so blinded by Corporate Gadget in to thinking we need electronics is beyond me, it's complete nonsense. all people are doing is feeding the monsters that are trying to control us in the first place. how many of you fed the monsters today or fell for their bull crap.

another thing is part G is an inductor but so many people have it in their mind that an inductor's role is to just sit there passively curbing currant once in a while or boosting the voltage in a boost converter. little do they know an inductor can be brought to an active state and control currant on a continuous basis.

WHY DO HUMAN ALWAYS HAVE TO OVER COMPLICATE THINGS ?

by the year 2020 38% of a car sticker price is because of electronics. what most people don't know is all those electronics extend the gas mileage NOT ONE SINGLE MILE and do nothing but suck up your hard earned money. just look at all those high mileage carbs that were bought up by Corporate oil to hide them. in 1935 Pogue invented a carb that got 100 miles per gallon. in 1983 GM did a study on a carb, set it up and ran all night. the next morning the MPG meter said 258  and that was on a half pint of fuel. 

so tell me hows that electronic thing going for ya.

Simplicity and function is the way to go which equates to longevity and ease of repair.

I we the human race does not pull our head out of are asses and stop the corporate takeover of our lives the human race will be exterminated for sure.

 

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 29 April 2018

Another thing to remember is this is a generator so plan accordingly. for instance if i was shopping for a whole house generator i would be looking for a generator that can handle all the electric devices in the house on at the same time. this is the total possible draw in the worst case scenario.

there is no difference in the Figuera device so when planning a build of the device think about the total power to fulfill your needs then always leave some head room. 

"BUT" a store bought generator can not be changed to increase the output of the device once it is built. the Figuera device can if part G had headroom when built,  you can always add extra cores to increase the output if your power needs change as long as part G's core has extra headroom you can extend the system and accommodate the extra primaries.

so if i have say an extra 500 va in part G's core i can change the system from say 5,000 watts to say 10,000 watts by adding extra core pairs and this can never be done by a regular present day generator.

it would really come in handy if one can only afford a small device or say there was no supply of core material and later when a supply was acquired  you could add to the system. it all depends on your supply demands. as long as your primaries and the secondaries are around the same weight and similar material you should have no problem adding other core to the system. just remember the primaries need to be mirrors of each other, meaning try to build with the exact winding count and weight of the one's already in the system.

if the cores are stacked together in close proximity the magnetic fields from the core will pick up from the core next to it thus all magnetic fields will be the same intensity as the lower field will match the slightly higher intensity field next to it.

so it is advisable when building a permanent device to place the cores in close proximity to one another like the picture below as this will cause all the core magnetic field if slightly mismatched  to align to each other and even pick up extra power from the one next to it. YES, the secondaries will pick up from the Electric field next to it if close enough.

Or if they are square cores.

 

also with a configuration like the pic's above the device will take up very little floor space allowing it to be put where a standard geny can not be put. the above configurations can easily put out 5,000 watts and take up only 8 or 10 inches of floor space.

plan your build accordingly.

 

Marathonman

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Marathonman posted this 30 April 2018

Its really simple folks.

Part G is a rotating dynamic inductor that changes the ratio of magnetic field to currant as the brush rotates.

The Primaries are wound specifically as Electromagnets with as little resistance as possible to attain the fastest response time to the change in currant.

The Secondaries are wound according to present day teachings as a standard generator output would be. can be series or paralleled for intended output of voltage and currant.

this device is simple but simplex but can still be built by anyone. even though part G is just an inductor it has many function that allow this device to operate.

The primary and secondary cores are separated to reduce eddies, hysteresis and heat loss allowing the primaries to be that , electromagnets.

Two opposing primaries that uses bucking fields to increase the kinetic energy potential to the secondaries. the tighter we squeeze the field lines together the larger the window of energy flows inward to the system.

thus this device mimics the standard generator but in a stationary scenario.

 

Marathonman

Marathonman posted this 02 May 2018

It is quite hard to post here with almost no interaction with people. i have no clue except for a few that have posted of weather or not i am getting my point across. i have tried to express the information in the most informative way i know how at different angles so i hope everyone can understand.

i have parts coming in but that won't be for a week or two and i have covered so much information in a short time i am running out of things to talk about other than reiterating which to some can be quite annoying. one being overly redundant is like shark repellent to me, i have got to go.

i have covered part G i think very well to the point that a person can test at home to prove the validity of it's actions. the primaries i have covered also quite well as so i think giving the winding directions and basic guidelines to follow when building.

since my math skills are not where they need to be i either use the manufacturers guidelines or work with materials that have a known output for a given weight of material. take for instance a transformer of say 5 kw output at a certain weight. divide the output by the weight and that will give you the output per pound of material thus can help when deciding on the output of your secondaries.

the graph below is the calculation when dealing with a toroidal shape and the amount of winding's on part G. since i know my math skills are not to par i find people that are that can help calculate the amount of winding. i have even put adds on college billboards for math wiz to help in this matter and wind up with people that are more than willing to help in this humanitarian cause. befriending people that calculate and build  transformers for a living is a very good advantage.

I hope this graph will help the readers in the process of winding part G.

 

 

Marathonman

 

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Aetherholic posted this 03 May 2018

Marathonman, you are not alone!
Thank you for sharing such detailed information and I am sure inspiring many to try to build this device.
I am also in the middle of a build and I have a few observations to share.

Primary Coils
I decided to compare the different basic winding techniques for the primaries on a Gauss per Amp Turn basis. I used a static constant current supply to get a relative comparison. Gauss was measured at the same identical position on the edge of the core face (I am using a fast soft iron for the cores).

Magnet Wind
As the layers are paralleled up, i decided that the amp turns must be counted as if for one layer. On that basis i got 0.21 Gauss/AT.

Normal Wind - 0.51 Gauss/AT.

Tesla Wind - 0.73 Gauss/AT.

My Part G
I had made a 320 turns continuous wind of 1.9mm wire on a variac iron core torroid 240 o/d 115 i/d 80 high with top polished.
With closed wind, inductance at any two diametrically opposed windings is 1846uH at 100Hz.
Thus I think Part G behaves as a tripple inductor, one static across the two brushes and two dynamic from the north brush to the taps, the static inductor being increased as the torroidal flux builds.
I think this can only be achieved if the windings are closed which poses a question I would like to ask about your C core version, will it behave differently to the torroid version?
I will finish the Part G build in the next few days and then try to estimate its performance so i can finish the full complement of coils.


Aetherholic - One truth, One field

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Marathonman posted this 03 May 2018

Aetherholic;

I do thank you for the good comments and for being here. i do strive to explain the best i can my experiences and bench work the best i know how.

I don't think you ever mentioned how many amps or voltage you were testing your windings at. and also it seams the winding count on your part G is a little high and i would guess your wire to be 12.5 awg which is getting on the thin side for part G. granted i to am using 12 awg but mine is square wire not round so there is less resistance in the wire plus square to me will be easier to grind perfectly flat with the least losses of copper. but then again this is just me and everyone is different.

the whole idea Figuera was trying to achieve was the perfect inductor with as little resistance as possible as this would equate to the least amount of losses as possible. since we are using self inductance (magnetic fields) to control currant,  resistance needs to be as low as possible which will equate to the most efficient inductor. this reasoning also applies to the rest of the system, the least resistance the less losses to heat the more efficient it will be.

as for the inductor there will be opposing fields at both brushes one NN and the other side SS but i never even considered there being a static one but thinking about it you would be kind of correct in your assumption. so what we end up with is N S N S fields between the brushes in the core in both halves but they rotate with the brush plus the NN and SS fields on each side of the brushes.

the C core will have the same attributes as the toroid with the same fields but the fields will be rotating more locally than that of the toroid but there will still be plenty of flux flowing through the entire core so i foresee no change in performance.

You are off to a very good start Aetherholic and the use of that Part G core was a very wise decision on your part. i have two variac's on my research bench but just did not have the heart to disassemble them as i use them all the time.

i am glad to have you aboard and cant wait to see some awesome pics of your build. i am also quite glad that the information i have presented here was not in vein as i also share on OU but that is like sharing to a group of bobble heads with the information bouncing of their heads like that of a pinball machine. everything i post can be verified on the bench yet all they do is run their mouths stating i am wrong yet have no proof. unbelievable.

Regards,

Marathonman

Aetherholic posted this 04 May 2018

Marathonman,

This is the first time I have posted on any forum for the very reasons you stated. I also have got tired of reading replication information with only half the story. I feel its better to give full information even if the result doesn't work out, at least the reasons can then be fully investigated.

The coil tests I did were done at 2 amps constant current but were intended as a relative reference not absolute values to illustrate the effects of the different winds given identical coils and that the tesla wind does indeed give almost 50% more flux than a standard wind.

My part G coil was selected based upon getting the biggest coil I could get from any supplier who was prepared to do a full wind for me so for this build I have to live with whatever it will put out until I can model what part G is so that a full custom design can be done.

The word "static" that I used was to mean mechanically non variable to differentiate it from the dynamic inductances. Of course the inductance will change depending upon the field.

I have come to believe that Part G is in fact a genius replication of the coil triplets working in reverse with the static inductance being equivalent to the secondary coil and the dynamic inductances equivalent to the two primary coils but in this case the secondary is permanently energized and is used to power the primaries.

At the NN brush, there will be a south pole on either side, a south flux linking the two souths running through the core and a north torroidal field OUTSIDE the core but able to influence the windings. The SS brush will be the reverse. So we have a pure North and a pure South rotating in the core as you said  with an outside North and outside South rotating through the windings. (demonstrable by ferrocell and CRT viewing bucking fields). in other words, the same arrangement as two primaries and a secondary triplet BUT working in reverse with the secondary being permanently energized providing the field which is then modulated by the dynamic inductances. Pure Genius.

I will post pictures of the build.

Regards,

Aetherholic

 

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Aetherholic posted this 04 May 2018

For some reason I cant seem to post pictures other than as file attachments.

The attached picture in my previous post is Part G drive shaft with commutator, slip rings and floating drive for the brush plate.

 

 

 

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Marathonman posted this 04 May 2018

Aetherholic;

  It was Zanzal that can up with a solution to that problem. attache the file then post. come back to post then click copy link, click edit post then click insert/edit image which is the middle bar,  a second or so later hit post again and image will be there.

Quote; "I have come to believe that Part G is in fact a genius replication of the coil triplets working in reverse with the static inductance being equivalent to the secondary coil and the dynamic inductances equivalent to the two primary coils but in this case the secondary is permanently energized and is used to power the primaries." end quote

FINALLY someone with a brain to comprehend the workings of this wonderful device with me i have been pushing for so many years.

to imagine someone thinking Figuera used resistors is so unbelievably insane of an idea totally disregarding the fact that the energy in the inducing system is recycled over and over using the secondary to replace the losses. using an inductor as an active device was as you say, SHEER GENIUS.

 your part G sounds very good and it seams you have put some thought into it. i see you said that they wound it. i wound it myself and you talk about a royal pain in the back side. since i am also building two different types of part G's i will be able to see which one is the easiest to wind and perform the best.

again it is really nice having you here. i to thought everyone on the net did a half ass job that is why i decided to devote my life and research this device right down to the nutz and bolts then sharing what i have in hopes to inspire people to build it.

my ring part G is off premises locked up at the moment and my new one will be here in just a little over a week then it will be rock and role time to prove to all those lousy trolls and shills on Entergetic and OU that they were COMPLETELY WRONG.

welcome to my world and the world of Figuera. it is very good to have you here.

Regards,

Marathonman

EmilP posted this 04 May 2018

I have to tell you that it is an honor and a pleasure to participate in such a forum with quality people and professionals.

Neither I, like Aetherholic, have joined the forums until this year, although I have read thousands of posts over the past ten years.

Marathonman: You are not alone in the effort to make and learn others about the Figuera device, even if we do not post too much, we read regularly everything that appears here. Certainly a good many of those who read want and try to make the device, I'm sure of that. At each Figuera device created, the author will think about Marathonman ...

Thanks again, I never talked that much.

EmilP

Marathonman posted this 04 May 2018

Wow ! thank you EmilP for that wonderful compliment. this device is my gift to humanity and i find it my sole purpose in life to get the massage to the people that deserve this device and that is why i spend every waking hour thinking of it. actually when it comes down to it it i am the one that should be thanking you two as i am very humbled to the very thought that my action was the direct cause of two people stepping forward in an effort to change humanity.

I salute you to.

 

FOR I AM MARATHONMAN

Marathonman posted this 04 May 2018

This pic is Aetherholic's pic that he can't post just yet. follow the direction from last post. i know it is a pain but it is what it is.

 

Nice work Aetherholic. mine will have a central hole through the middle plus two holes drilled in the side so i can route the secondary feed wires from the commutator to the brushes.

Marathonman

Chris posted this 04 May 2018

@Aetherholic, EmilP,

Welcome!

All here are safe! We will not allow Trolls! We are in control here and Trolls will be Booted and reported as Trolls!

Marathonman is doing a great job of keeping the ball rolling with Clemente Figurea's Infinate Energy Machine and all posters are welcome.

Appologies MM, off topic, the floor is yours again my friend!

   Chris

Marathonman posted this 04 May 2018

It's not my house Chris you are most welcome to chime in ANY time no mater what you post.

 

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onepower posted this 04 May 2018

It would seem to me the process may be similar to a heat pump.

If we dissipate X electrical energy in a resistance we can expect to produce X heat energy as a result. However with a "heat-pump" we can dissipate the same X electrical energy and move up to six times more energy as heat from one place to another. In this case the external heat energy moved within a system would appear to be somewhat independent of the electrical energy dissipated.

Strange isn't it?... that energy is said to be conserved and I believe it is in the grand scheme of things yet here we have a common example where we can input X energy in one form and move six times more energy which happens to be in another form. It would seem to me that if a heat pump is not bound to a 1:1 energy equivalence ratio then perhaps we have been approaching this problem from the wrong angle.

One could say that we may have been taught the poorest way of doing things in our textbooks so far as the utilization of energy is concerned. 1X in 6X out... it's hard to argue it cannot work when it has been proven to work for decades. It's simply a matter of approaching the problem from the right angle with an open mind. 

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Marathonman posted this 05 May 2018

Well imagine that  onepower you just graduated to the next level of human evolution as all of man's laws are a farce and distorted by their senses thus what is taught is very far from the truth. we are a one dimensional being in a three dimensional system unaware of the other two dimensions.

Marathonman 

Aetherholic posted this 05 May 2018

Here goes with some more info and another pic.

This is my part G waiting final mechanical tweaking and wiring. Marathonman, yes I have holes through the slip rings for the commutator wiring. This build uses some 3D printed ABS parts so that I can adjust if needed. I am using a 4000rpm 24V DC motor with pwm controller at this stage. It takes 1.5A or less to turn the Part G and yes I have spun it up to 4000 without a problem, so I expect the 36 watts of loss to be inconsequential in this system.

The brush disc is 5mm Aluminium alloy. The brushes are 12X25 custom made with double wires as I have no idea yet what current can be produced. Theory is one thing, experiment is another as we all know.

This build was made fully adjustable so I don't expect it to last a long time, enough to be able to produce the full system. Then re design it based upon that experience.

 

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Marathonman posted this 05 May 2018

Wow ! i sure didn't expect that. your build skills are amazing and i am really impressed and almost jealous. those slip brushes are quite nice also.

two thumbs up on your build and the fact that you made everything adjustable is the added benefit and without a doubt a must with this device as exactly as i have been saying.

it is a Saturday morning at 6 am but since i have seen your picture i want to call up Bridgeport and ask them where in hell is my C core i want to build so bad. i still have a little over a week before it will be here and i am squirming in my boots.

the blunder with my commutator is squared away and i should be receiving that any day now.

again it is very nice having you aboard Aetherholic and you are off to a very good start. your build skills are again very good and i foresee you not having any problem at attaining your goal of a working device.

cant wait to see your cores.

PS. all losses are a big thing and should be minimized.

 

Marathonman

 

Marathonman posted this 05 May 2018

 

I know this is off topic but it is my friends B day today. he is an alcoholic and has been drinking Busch beer since he was 17 years old so i decided to make a cake in his Busch drinking spirit. the letters are off i know but the last time i checked it was the thought that counts. Apple Spice Cake with a Busch twist, tried to get candles for it but the fire department would not give me a fire permit for that many candles. ha, ha, ha, ha !

it actually was fun working with food coloring and a  small paint brush and yes the cake is round like the can, well not completely.

HAPPY B DAY TIM ! and please stop crying as it is just a cake, awesome though.

 

 

Marathonman

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EmilP posted this 06 May 2018

Congratulations on professional and aesthetic construction at the same time.
I have a question: does the brush disc, that aluminum alloy also provide electromagnetic shielding? The variable magnetic field generated by the strong toroid could affect the rest of the mechanisms and the DC motor?
I was thinking of using a hard plastic disk used for sanding, which also has the connection side.
The three modules (Switching, Variable Induction and Coil Block) of the Figuera device, in my opinion, must be as insulated as possible so as not to interfere with each other.
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Aetherholic posted this 06 May 2018

EmilP,

I kept the motor as far away as possible from the torroid for that reason. The drive shaft is 316L stainless steel, non magnetic but is also relatively soft so you have to be careful not to stress it too much (I always make two of everything just in case). The disc is supposed to be non magnetic but as we know aluminium will levitate in a strong moving magnetic field. If this does happen I will remake it using stainless steel. All the screws and threaded rods are also stainless steel.

I think your idea to use a plastic disc is also ok except that you might need to use a spring to give enough brush pressure, I am currently relying on the weight of the aluminium but I also have space for a spring.

Aetherholic

 

 

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Aetherholic posted this 06 May 2018

Marathonman,

I hope our efforts will encourage more to join in. In these days of laser cut acrylic, lasercut and cnc metalwork and 3D printing together with CAD it makes it less difficult to be able to build devices like this.

For my bobbins i use acrylic tube cut to over length by the supplier then I use the big flat face of a standard grinder to get the length within 0.2mm which is needed because I use a winding machine. The ends are laser cut acrylic and glued using acetone which after a few hours is very strong.

I am looking forward to seeing your C core in action with the square wire wind, something I would need a few beers and some Dutch courage to attempt.

Aetherholic

 

 

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Marathonman posted this 06 May 2018

Very true about the CNCing, part of the reason i bought the Aluminum plug is to save money as they wanted two to three times more than what i paid for the plug in the first place. so now they are only charging me for the actual CNC job.

as for the bobbins well i am sure you know where i stand on that, i just make them my self using ecofi recycled plastic bottles  made into cloth at 24 cents a sheet at 12 x 12 inch. cut,  superglue, cover with resin then wind, it's that simple.

The C core will not be hard to wind at all as i will be dealing with only half of the C it will be much easier to handle. once the first wind is secured into place the rest are a cinch to wind. then all that is required is attaching the other C closing the core. using something like JB Weld will allow me a good winding window as it takes 24 hours to cure and the winding will last from 30 to 40 minutes. i will then turn it over put weight on it then let it cure for 24 hrs then it's time to polish flat.

everyone always underestimates their abilities, why i don't know. when i did the bobbins i had no clue but just sat there envisioning them with logical thinking and reasoning and it then came to me so i just built according to my vision. low and behold my bobbins turned out great. i posted a PDF on the steps i took in construction of them in one of my posts.

your bobbins sound really nice and can't wait also to see them. when winding the bobbins i used a calc tool to get me into the ball park but actual used a 300 watt resistor to check the actual pull of the electromagnets. as they are adjustable i was able to dial in the exact resistance of the electromagnet and resistor combined to get the closest to 1 amp as possible. this trick works well because with out it the power supplies will freak out and shut down. just remember both primaries are accountable for half of the secondary output.

again don't ever underestimate one abilities to build something out of the box and this goes to all the readers to, talking the time to think out the problem first then execute your vision.

It is really nice having you here Aetherholic, your build is coming along very nice and it won't be long before the world takes notice that we have been lied to for 150 years. perpetual motion IS POSSIBLE as the very planet we live on told us so. i just hope it is not to late for humanity sake.

EmilP;

  The magnetic field from Part G will not extend out very far. you are forgetting this is an iron core that will suck up almost all of the magnetic field it can so leakage will be at a minimum so the use of plastic will not be required. this closed core system was used because of it's efficiency being in the range of 98 to 99 % efficient with very little losses. if you were to use an open core the losses would be through the roof and massive interference with other devices in the area.

as for the primary and secondary core pair well that is a different story and step need to be taken when the device is finished as not to interfere with other things surrounding it. but just remember not to get to close to the cores with iron as that will allow the magnetic flux to take a short cut path back to the opposite pole and reducing the output. a Faraday cage will be a viable option but one must remember to leave 5 to 6 inches of clearance to avoid all magnetic flux grounding.

very good having the both of you here. talking that first step toward independence is the hardest step in the process that you and the reader will encounter, the rest will just fall into place.

U bent van harte Welkom.

 

 

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Marathonman posted this 07 May 2018

The entire inception of the Figuera device was a journey of at least 10 years. Figuera being unhappy with the present day !900) Generators that were called dynamos in those days that had massive gogging effects which were the result of the Lenz Law of attraction between the stator and the rotor attractive force when leaving register (alignment).

his 1902 patent was a rotating version  that was sold to the bankers then later he revised his patent to be non moving (1908). in the process of realizing that two opposing electromagnets compresses the magnetic field to that of a standard high intensity field generator. he then devised a way to vary them in an orderly fashion to induce motion into the secondary all while reducing the currant draw on them and using that reduction of magnetic field in a positive way to make the device self sustaining. with the use of a dynamic inductor he was able to use that magnetic fields in the core to reduce the currant in an orderly linear fashion and reuse that reduced magnetic field in the core of part G combined with the other reduced fields to give rise of amplification to the rising primaries.

in this process the currant was able to be split to two feeds allowing both sets of primary array's to be controlled independently but in absolute unison. each side of the brush's inductor either adding or subtracting winding's that magnetically link or unlink to the system which will cause the magnetic field collision point to be swept back and forth over the space occupied by the secondary.

once the secondaries are polarized and currant begins to flow in the secondaries and the load a second field forms in the secondaries that opposes the original currant flow (Lenz Law)  and it is this field that the opposing primary fields push or rather sweep back and forth over the space occupied by the secondary giving the appearance or allusion of motion to the electric field causing currant to flow in the secondary and the load.

if there is more currant draw on the secondary from a larger load the resistance in that part of the external system will drop and more currant will flow thus returning more currant to the beginning where the secondaries are connected to part G which will give rise to more potential to the electromagnets thus boosting the output to the secondaries and the load.

 

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Enjoykin2118 posted this 07 May 2018

What would be if he used such a big toroid for Tesla Scalar Transformer ?

Tesla's Scalar Coil in action.rar {45Wt in, 2,19kWt out}

https://uploadfiles.io/jpv3v

Best regards

Enjoykin2118

 

 

Marathonman posted this 08 May 2018

Well we wouldn't know enjoykin since no one on this thread is working on the Tesla device and maybe a good clue is the title of this thread. don't you think that is a little on the rude side. i mean really.

Well you would be completely wrong if you think he used multilayer winding's like Hooper so it seems you know nothing of the Figuera part G which is typical of most that don't put the time and effort into the real device operation. unlike myself that devoted my life to this one device. just because you THINK it would work doesn't mean it will ACTUALLY work. build it and find out.

that's twice now, what next Dunkin donuts.

 

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Aetherholic posted this 08 May 2018

Now the comic interlude is over back to the main sub plot, getting to a working part G. The large brushes had too much bounce so I spent 16 hours redesigning some brush holders for the smaller brushes, 3D printing them, assembling and testing. Looks like they are good. The problem was spring tension, the best seems to be the coiled strip type which provides a more even pressure. Sounds like a jet turbine at full speed, looks like a Tesla scalar coil and functions as a part G. When static it makes a good coffee morning conversation piece. A variety of functions according to the beholder. I am posting from my phone at the moment so no pos, will post some more tomorrow. Maybe I will ad coffee grinder function also.

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Aetherholic posted this 08 May 2018

Seriously, the challenge of rotating brushes at 32m/s on top of a torroidal core and maintaining uninterrupted contact is huge. That's why it took Zeiss to make Figuera's part G.

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