Hi guys!
In the past I play a bit with the Figuera concept. It use the POC as we already know the potential. I think this guy, Marathonman, understand the principe behind the Figuera device...
Chris, if there already a tread about Clemente Figuera, feel free to move this at the good place!
So trolls and "debunkers" have a use after all!!!!.
One thing I would like to report at this stage is that my part G core as built is overunity without any feedback. The COP is between 1.2 and 2.33 depending upon load conditions. If anyone wants to debunk that then build one for yourself. It took great effort to build it so the same effort is required to debunk it. In operation its characteristics are a rectifier+magamp+battery+AC modulator+amplifier.
Aetherholic - One truth, One field
Marathonman, that's really sad to hear mate. I wish you the very best, and i hope you get back on your feet real soon..
Aetherholic. WOW that's really outstanding. I just got my iron cores, and i'm winding my primaries. just have a question about the commutator for the feedback. The secondary loopback get's commutated (rectified) and put back into Part G. are the angles of 135 45-135-45 still o.k to use on this commutator.? dId you make this commutator so you can rotate it freely to finetune it's position.?
Could you maybee post another picture of your commutators and connections (close-up) .. would be great..
Happy building.
Peter
Peter
Peter
Great to hear you are still building. Your commutator position will depend upon the phase shifts in your particular build.
In my system as it is there are two phase shifts. Both exciter signals are shifted 90 degrees with respect to the part G brush. When the AC has a resistive load it is shifted another 90 degrees for at total shift of 180 degrees relative to the part G brush.
I chose a combination of commutator and brush setup so that the brush width is exactly the segment width on the commutator. This means I only have two segments not connected. My commutator is movable with a designed interference fit on the shaft so it will never move once setup, it has to be adjusted with pliers holding it and turning the shaft.
With this setup I am switching at the zero crossing point so I get a perfect full wave rectified signal out of the two slip rings attached to the commutator. I have run this with 23A going through it without sparking at all.
I set it up by using low current and watching the chopped AC with a scope then adjusting until I got the perfect waveform coming out.
This is how I found the phase shifts and the need to run it with coils attached and a resistive load on the AC.
This means that at the moment I am pumping part G at the mid point of the exciter signals on the scope but as there is another 90 degrees shift in the core it will line up again.
If you get it wrong you will see flames, if you get it right there is zero sparking.
If you are using a toroid and a circular path on the toroid then your waveforms will be different.
I am only using one brush on my Part G.
What is your iron core material?
Aetherholic - One truth, One field
Aetherholic,
Thanks for the quick responce. And thank you for elaborating..
I got hold of 130cm of iron rod (60mm diameter). Planning on annealing it prior to use
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Please keep in mind that the two coil contact is the minimal for operation and it does not mean that is the catch all as three or more can be used if you so desire according to your build.
another thing to keep fresh in your mind is the secondary really should be laminated to get the most bang for your buck lessening the eddy currents and hysteresis which equates to a higher output from the secondary.
finally always keep thing adjustable through out the system as you never know when a slight adjustment could change the whole outcome.
the not connected commutator segments in my setup was to ensure there was never a dead short on the secondary even though the AC from the secondary was at the zero crossing. it was just a precaution that paid off.
Peter;
Thanks, it is a hard pill to swallow trust me. Nice cores by the way.
when winding your primaries be sure to start with your secondaries and decide what your output will be then design your primaries according to that remembering the primaries split the required pressure between them. using a high power resistor will allow you to fire up your primaries and test them for the proper lbs pressure without the power supply freaking out. also if you have noticed that the primaries do not control the current flow, that is the job of part G the controller so wind them specifically as electromagnets to get the biggest bang for the buck. inductance controls the current flow not resistance, resistance is unrecoverable losses so please minimize the losses.
keep on keeping on and change the world one build at a time.
"its characteristics are a rectifier+magamp+battery+AC modulator+amplifier."
exactly, the part G Inductor controller has so many functions as i have been explaining all these years it is hard for many people to conceive it as a simple device that can do all these things at the same time or time intervals.
Keep up the great work Aetherholic.
Regards,
Marathonman
I wish you could continue to help those who started with you,
I understand you MM,
sorry for you.
Jagau
If you are referring to the ones on Entergetic i can care less what they do as they burnt their bridges not me.
if you are referring to the people on this thread you are way behind us as i have been in constant contact with Aetherholic and will be till the end.
any one that has any question just pm me or rather ask on the thread as maybe someone else has the same problem or question.
PS. and Thank you JAGAU.
Regards,
Marathonman
Thanks Chris, for this Forum it seems a haven for serious builders to share.
Hi MM, chin up, and keep on going.
Aetherholic, Great to see someone with build skills and work dedication like yours.
Would like to ask you some build questions, if that's OK.
Best Regards Cornboy.
Hey Comboy,
Thanks, yes we have a safe zone, No Trolls!
Ask away, but please if its not Figuera related, please on another, topic related thread or create your own. Please remember we have a specific topic related forum and all topics must be Energy "Generation" related.
Welcome!
Chris
Hey Comboy,
Thanks, yes we have a safe zone, No Trolls!
Ask away, but please if its not Figuera related, please on another, topic related thread or create your own. Please remember we have a specific topic related forum and all topics must be Energy "Generation" related.
Welcome!
Chris
Thanks Chris, yes definitely Figuera related, was working with MM on EF,
Will wait for Eatherholic for an OK on questions about his build.
Thanks and regards, Cornboy.
Hi Cornboy
Ask away, I will answer if I can.
Aetherholic - One truth, One field
Hey Cornboy good to hear from you and quite glad you came to the haven for builders.
Yes, i know, what a tragic time for me right now. i feel like Adam stripped of Eve as my device build ment EVERYTHING to me and came before everything else. it is hard but will get it back some how. in the mean time my ex room mate will be getting quite a surprise when the subpoena is handed to him. he will pay some how.
anyways on a brighter note they didn't get my C core part G or my brush holder as it is still waiting to be paid for. welcome to the haven, quite glad you are here.
Regards,
Marathonman
Hi Cornboy
Ask away, I will answer if I can.
Thanks Aetherholic, i have read this thread from the start, but please forgive me if i ask what has already been discussed.
1. It's a bit hard to see how you wound your G cic core, from your pics, is it wound around the centre leg, or wrapped right around the outside perimeter? Also what size and shape of conductor did you use.
2.How did you end up winding your primaries? did you stick to 4 layers of 47 turns of 2.1mm?
3. What winding style did you use on primaries?
4. How many segments does your AC to DC feedback commutator have?
5. What is supplying the AC feedback loop?
Lots of Questions i know, just trying to get a working knowledge of your very professional replication, as i have been slowly working away on this device for quite a while.
Best Regards Cornboy.
Cornboy
1. 2mm x 1mm rectangular wire 93 turns wound around the center if the I core.
2 and 3 Tesla Wind 8 layers 376 turns 2.1mm
4. I will post details of the commutator later today.
5. I wont post this yet as I am investigating some interesting anomalies. There are several ways to do this, I am investigating all of them and which work and which dont in my version of the device. I do have loopback at this time.
A general comment. I will only post results that I have verified. Dont take any construction details as gospel that are guaranteed to work. This device is not simple and requires understanding of each component and implementing solutions based on experimental results and deep understanding of what is observed. .Everyone's device will be different and will require experimentation.
Aetherholic - One truth, One field
Thanks Aetherholic, will respond shortly.
Regards Cornboy.
Hi Aetherholic.
8 layers and 367 turns of 2.1 mm means your primary's are approx. 10cm length.. I cut my cores 9cm lenght.
Annealing them today 
. Will use laminated MOT core's on secondary's.
Will post some more pictures later.
ps 'interesting anomalies' , can't wait what you'll find.. keep us posted..
Happy building...
Namaste.
Peter
Peter
Good choice for your secondary cores, great to hear you are progressing with the build. Did you complete your part G yet? I remember you had the circular inner brush setup worked out nicely so it would be interesting to see the finished result.
Aetherholic - One truth, One field
Update
I now have 440W of excess power in the system.
Aetherholic - One truth, One field
"Everyone's device will be different and will require experimentation."
Exactly as i have said from the start. each build even just slightly different will require a slight different adjustments of each part.
I am glad to hear your progress Aetherholic. what adjustment did you make to cause the rise in output. as we already know it takes so very little of adjustment to change the outcome.
Congrats ! the sharing of ones knowledge to better humanity is the very best gift of all.
Regards,
Marathonman
Update
I now have 440W of excess power in the system.
WOW Aetherholic, congratulations that's awesome, and i do believe it is just the start for you and your device.
Regards Cornboy.
Update
I now have 440W of excess power in the system.
Wow silence is golden!!
If you posted this on EF you would have an endless barrage of silly questions, and multiple Demands that you show proof.
Well Done Chris, on this forum.
All the best Cornboy.
Just testing how to upload photo's.
Cornboy.
Hi Everyone, this seems like a good place to share my latest Figuera build.
I have tried remote commutation on toroid part G, and direct commutation on wound toroid G.
I made a 96 segment commutator to go with my 96 wind toroid G hoping to smooth out the signal the primaries received and was about to spend countless hours soldering the 96 heavy contacts to toroid windings, when i decided to have a break and re cap on the patent.
I re read the patent over and over, and of course MM is right about magnetic induction controls the current, i am sure of that, but i couldn't get out of my mind Clemente's words" Resistance Pieces ", and the description of his Commutator as if it were seperate from Part R the resistance.
So i made my version of resistor Bars with 54 x 1.6mm copper coated mild steel welding rods for magnetic cores.
The total array has only 4 ohms dc resistance.
Am in the process of making new Triplets like Aetherholic's setup but smaller, and a new internal ring commutator.
Any questions are welcome.
Regards Cornboy.
Marathonman
I am still adjusting literally everything incrementally so its not just one specific thing. I am still way down on voltage on the AC out but at least its 10x what it was when I first powered it up. I am now tempted to swap out all the core material in the triplets as I think it is far too fast. Yes we have to modulate at 50 or 60 Hz but we also need a field build up which I am still not seeing. The coercive force of my material is only 32 or less.
My Part G is another story, huge power generation from the CIC core so I think you will see some surprising results with your C core when you build it.
Cornboy
Nice build. It will be interesting to see what you get out of the now inductive resistor bars. Maybe also you should see what happens if you can get the fields to couple by having them close together. You asked about my commutator, it is 24 segments wires as two sets of 11 segments shorted to slip rings. Brushes are exactly the width of one segment. I get very clean 0V switching with no sparks at up to 23A which is as high as I have tested it so far.
Peter
What annealing conditions did you use and did you anneal before or after machining the cores to size?
Aetherholic - One truth, One field
Cornboy
Nice build. It will be interesting to see what you get out of the now inductive resistor bars. Maybe also you should see what happens if you can get the fields to couple by having them close together. You asked about my commutator, it is 24 segments wires as two sets of 11 segments shorted to slip rings. Brushes are exactly the width of one segment. I get very clean 0V switching with no sparks at up to 23A which is as high as I have tested it so far.
Hi Aetherholic, thanks, what supplies the 23A to your comm feedback, and do you feed it into your G core via the positive brush?.
I can certainly try aligning the resistance pieces closely, even making a circle formation just to see.
I will be a while before firing it up though, as the testing i did with it claimed my commutator surface and nearly blew up the brush, literally.
I had a 1200v 50a bridge rectifier on part of secondary output feeding back to pos brush, and when induction took hold in the secondary i had a meltdown like a small welding arc between the brush and comm.
I was feeding pos brush with 4x7ah batteries in series for 50v and the small feed wires and batt terminals didn't even get warm, so the power that burnt everything i think, had to come from the secondary.
Maybe it is the timing of the return current from sec or maybe brush contact was allowing huge spikes?
All very interesting anyway.
Regards Cornboy.
Cornboy
Seems like you have a working secondary and definitely too much power being fed back. If there is the slightest interruption in contact with the brush you will get a fast inductive rise in voltage at the brush which will cause the airgap to arc over and hence the meltdown. I ran 23A through my brush to check its limits for current and heating effects to check that it wouldnt bind in the brush holder when it got hot and hence lose contact with the core.
Also check the phase of the AC relative to the commutator, you may find a shift.
Aetherholic - One truth, One field
Cornboy..
That's some build you've got there.. very nice indeed.
Aetherholic.
I chopped up the 130cm bar in pieces of 9 cm, then fired up the old Oxy- Acetylene torch, and heated them all up until they where REDHOT after that, i let them slowly cool down to roomtemperature. took about 10 minutes per core to get them that hot.
This will remove any stress within the iron core, and make it less hard..(better magnet i think)
I will leave one core un-annealed, so i can compare the magnetic field strenght's, with the same coil setup later.
Next i will be sanding and coating them to prevent oxidation.
Kind Regards, keep on building...
Namaste
Peter Holweg
Peter
Great, the annealed / un-annealed comparison will be of interest to all I think and quite valuable information.
Aetherholic - One truth, One field
Cornboy;
" but i couldn't get out of my mind Clemente's words" Resistance Pieces ", and the description of his Commutator as if it were separate from Part R the resistance."
That would be a big NO. Figuera was talking about the individual loops on the part G core that is a CLOSED CORE. any open core will NOT provide the necessary magnetic feed back to the system and losses will be through the roof thus self sustaining will not happen.
I know you have been through a lot building your system but quite frankly it has to be closed core or nothing remotely to self sustainment will take place.
a closed core is a must in this system but it doesn't matter what type of closed core you have as long as it is closed core. Aetherholic's core is functioning great as is my prelims on my C core so i already know it will work great.
why in the world would you need resistance when SELF INDUCTANCE (Magnetic flux) controls the current flow and resistance is unrecoverable losses that should be avoided. this is why part G has thicker wire as to avoid undue losses from resistance thus raising the efficiency into the upper high 90's.
"My Part G is another story, huge power generation from the CIC core so I think you will see some surprising results with your C core when you build it"
I totally agree as all prelims in small scale proved this to be so.
" Wow silence is golden!!
If you posted this on EF you would have an endless barrage of silly questions, and multiple Demands that you show proof."
BS, you would of been eaten alive from the wolf trolls and belittled like no tomorrow. why do you think i came here, to share with everyone in a relaxed environment.
welcome to the haven and thank you Chris for a job well done.
Together we can change the world.
regards,
Marathonman
Cornboy;
It sounds exactly like you blew your brush up because of opposing polarities of your secondary into your part G at the brush. that would account for the meltdown.
sorry to hear that.
regards,
Marathonman
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there is not one person in this world that can convince me that free energy is not possible. oh, there must be a very big guy in space spinning the world for billions of years i guess according to present day dogma taught Science and Physics.
self-regenerating cosmological feedback cycle. IMAGINE THAT ! our Universe is a self perpetuate machine and so can our energy devices.
regards,
Marathonman
Cornboy;
It sounds exactly like you blew your brush up because of opposing polarities of your secondary into your part G at the brush. that would account for the meltdown.
sorry to hear that.
regards,
Marathonman
Hi MM, the feed from the secondary was through a heavy diode bridge, and only the positive went to the brush.
Regards Cornboy.
MM, FYI: Puthoff is CIA!
In the 1970s and '80s Puthoff directed a CIA/DIA-funded program at SRI International to investigate paranormal abilities
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_E._Puthoff
That being just one of many CIA links!
Several of HIS assets he has pulled in, Inventors like you and I, have been murdered!
Chris
Chris;
Well at least it does state that he and other do find that overunity is possible. our universe is a self perpetuate machine irregardless he is a CIA puke or not.
another reason to open source all work. if i am taken out i have shared enough that it will go on.
Cornboy;
well then it seems you really overloaded that brush and then some.
PS. at least my C core and brush holder are intact and safe.
Regards,
Marathonman
Hi all,
@ MM and Aetherholic, curious if a closed E I core would be suitable for G core, as i have local access to lamination's i can buy by the Kg, one of which is 200mm x 240mm outside with a 80mm centre leg.
Regards Cornboy.
Cornboy
In my opinion and I think Marathonman's opinion too, EI cores can be used. If they laser cut the laminations you can have them make any size you want. You need the center leg fatter than the two outside legs. Follow what Marathonman has said about keeping everything adjustable including what he said about his C core where he can adjust the brush sweep diameter and his windings at each end. Its all about balancing inductances of primaries and the G core when it is operating which obviously will depend on your system as a whole.
Aetherholic - One truth, One field
Cornboy
In my opinion and I think Marathonman's opinion too, EI cores can be used. If they laser cut the laminations you can have them make any size you want. You need the center leg fatter than the two outside legs. Follow what Marathonman has said about keeping everything adjustable including what he said about his C core where he can adjust the brush sweep diameter and his windings at each end. Its all about balancing inductances of primaries and the G core when it is operating which obviously will depend on your system as a whole.
Thanks Aetherholic, when you wound your G core did you use the rectangle wire on edge?, and do you have more winding's at each end past the machined circle, along the I leg?
Regards Cornboy.
Cornboy
The wire is wound with the longest rectangle side flat to the core, my meager winding skills wont allow me to attempt to wind on edge, you will have to ask Marathonman if he thinks winding on edge would be useful. Yes the windings extend past the machined circle and were calculated to give me the inductance I wanted to balance the primaries and give the correct magnitude of AC but as there is a lot more going on in the core than appears, you should make everything adjustable.
Aetherholic - One truth, One field
That is completely correct as Aetherholic has stated. Keep things adjustable, all things. The E I core will work fine as long as the core is closed. Granted the core will not have the efficiency of the toroid as the E I will have more flux leakage but you will also not have paralleled inductance either as the toroid did. As for the triangle wire, well it will have a greater deal of technical difficulty trying ti stand it on edge for the tightest fit. My suggestion would be to take the easy route and use either rectangle wire on edge or do what i was to do and use square wire. That way much less wire is taken off in the precision grinding stage with more brush contact in the end. In the long run it is ultimately your decision.
By having an adjustabe brush holder it saved me a bunch of calculation of inductances. I can dial in the exact sweep ratio according to the ratio of primary to secondary lengths then can just take off a loop or two for the exact current needed. Again keep things adjustabe at all times if possibe.
Regards, Marathonman
Where i got triangle wire from i have no idea. the original replicator did use rectangle wire on edge but that was just his preference or rather what he had on hand. the whole purpose was to use the thickest wire possible with your set up which will be the lowest possible ohmic losses possible which is unrecoverable losses through heat. another thing to keep in mind is part G becomes the power supply once the starting is removed and must power all devices drawing power including the motor turning the brush.
Regards,
Marathonman
@ MM, i wondered where the Triangle wire came from?.
@ Aetherholic, one thing i have always worried about with direct commutation onto the machined epoxied wire is the possibility of creating a carbon track that will short out the wires. Has this ever been an issue?.
Also, have you ran your device up to mains speed 3000 or 3600, if so did the induction of the secondaries drop of the faster you went?.
Best whishes Cornboy
Cornboy
The speed I am running is 3000rpm for 50Hz, I didnt run at slow speed otherwise it would mess up the brush surface. Like any brush/commutator or slip ring a thin film of carbon will build up which is normal. There is very little wear on the brush so far as I am running it at a higher pressure than normal which is necessary to stop any sparking. The faster speed the more induction in the secondaries. If you see less induction then there are many causes for this too many to list.
Aetherholic - One truth, One field
Cornboy;
I posted a while back a PDF on brush wear, carbon filming and other very valuable info that might be of some value to you.
Regards,
Marathonman
Regarding the different cores, as long it is a closed core system to give proper feed back the system will function properly. with all cores that are not round like the toroid there will be significantly more flux loss then that of the toroid. this is due to the sharper bends at certain corners that leads to the flux losses at that point. the rounder the corners the less flux losses.
the tighter the winding's the less amount of winding's needed to get the proper amount of self induction. as we should all know by now the closer the winding's the better the magnetic coupling the larger the EMF produced that opposes the original current flow.
this will allow you to have a smaller rotating brush radius. this is the reason the original replicator turned his rectangle wire on it's edge. well at least one of the reasons, the other is the longevity of the winding's. having thicker wire will allow him to resurface the winding's quite a many times without having to rewind the core and a simple brush replacement. the wire he used was very difficult to form around the core being 3 x 5 mm.
happy building.
Regards,
Marathonman
I have a chance to get a 50 to 60 thousand a year job over the next week plus my own place. If anyone has prayed for anyone before please do so for me now at this time. My sanity and this device hangs in the balance.
Regards,
Marathonman
To speak about it is already a lot, it is necessary that you find an ear to listen to what you have to say.
Will pray for you.
Jagau
Marathonman
Thats great news. No one deserves the pressure you are under right now, I hope you get this chance to get back some stability in your life so that you can complete your mission.
Very best regards
Aetherholic - One truth, One field
Thank you very much, that really means a lot to me.
i have pounded the pavement every day for the last month contacting every agency i can think of. i have 4 professional people helping me on my resume' before they see it Friday. plus i just attained a 500.00 home painting job for the owner of Door Vets.
i am sorry it is off topic but if it happens it will be balls to the wall for the Figuera device and all the readers and builders.
one way or another WE WILL SUCCEED ! My mission will help the worlds mission. the more that knows about the Figuera device the better human's life will be.
regards,
Marathonman
MM. I will also pray for you and whish youbthe very best. Sometimes we go thru struggles and difficulty, but then the good times comes. Also I want you to know that I have learnd many things from you, and appreciate your sharing. Regards Vidura.
Thank you.
Regards,
Marathonman
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