Madscientist's Non-Inductive Coil Replication

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Madscientist posted this 25 April 2023

Hello iam trying to test this circuit presented in the video non conductive coil experiment video six and seven,

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Input power

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setup

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channel one on the scope is the current through L1 and channel 2 is the current through L2, iam pulsing L1 with a mosfet from a squarewave of around 90 khz and 18% dutycycle. Iam seein a sawtooth waveform on L2 

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Yellow trace is the voltage over ther 2 ohm resistor on L2 and purple trace is the voltage over the 2 ohm resistor on L3. In other words currents throug the partnered output coils.

Iam studying the currents they seem to be almost 180 degrees out of phase according to my scope shot, the problem is the currents are not equal. The current through L2 is twice the current through L3. Please advise

Thanks again for sharing knowledge

Br.

Madscientist

 

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Chris posted this 25 April 2023

Hey Madscientist / editor,

Very nice work, Thanks for sharing!

In the Image:

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We see a Exponential Curve, this indicates a Polarity Problem, where the order of the polarity is not correct.

Polarity should be: L1 opposes L2, L3 opposes L2 and L3 Assists L1. Use the Right Hand Grip Rule to verify this and the Diode Polarities. Once you have fixed your polarity problem, you will see a much more linear Curve, a little like a Boost Converter:

 

In the following Video I show Asymmetrical Regauging: 10% On Time and 90% Off Time:

 

The Boost Converter is a very similar concept, but I have advanced it a lot more, to incorporate Asymmetrical Electromagnetic Induction:

 

Each Coil, becomes a Source, Power is pushed back through all the Coils when correctly configured.

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Madscientist posted this 26 April 2023

Thanks Chris for pointing me in the right direction, I will continue the experiment and will be back with updates. Sorry I posted in the wrong place but now I know where replications belong. Br

Madscientist posted this 02 June 2023

Gd evening members, been busy with this experiment for some time and have the same setup but changed to a bigger core. I have noticed 2 interesting effects. First effect; At around 200khz,15%duty cycle no sawtooth wave on L3, But if i disconnect L3, the input current goes up, and the lamp on L2 dims, If I reconnet L3 the input current drops and the lamp on L2 brightens. I see this as L3 assisting the input coil. The second effect; This time I put a flyback diode on L1 and get a better sawtooth wave on L3, At 120khz 15%duty cycle when I When I disconnect L3, the input goes up by almost 200mv and the light brightens, reconnecting L3, input goes down and lamp dims!

Madscientist posted this 02 June 2023

Waveform on L3 with a flyback diode connected.

Madscientist posted this 02 June 2023

Sawtooth wave looks fine but voltage on L3 is low, I have read on the thread delayed conduction in bucking coils and iam testing 2 different delay circuits. Hoping it will increase the voltage on the output coils.

Madscientist posted this 03 June 2023

Gd morning Chris, sorry iam new to many things here, I tried to post my progress and attachments via an Android phone but now iam going to correct it on a laptop as in my first posts. Answer to your question, iam posting my experiments only on this forum, it's the first time i have seen that link, looks like a copy of this forum, anyway iam here to do research and try to replicate experiments, my progress is only presented here.

Chris posted this 03 June 2023

Hey Madscientist,

You're doing a good job! Don't mind me, I may have had my wires crossed.

Each Partnered Output Coil needs to buck each other, you have this occurring? Using the Right Hand Grip Rule and Conventional Current, then each Magnetic Field from POC needs to oppose each other.

We will help you along, so don't worry!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Madscientist posted this 03 June 2023

I switched to a bigger core the  partnered output coils are 200 turns each and 12turns on the  primary core. 

Madscientist posted this 03 June 2023

At around 150Khz, 20% dutycycle i get this on the scope

Madscientist posted this 03 June 2023

If a connect a flyback diode over the input coil i get the image below on the scope.

This is the closest i came to a sawtooth wave.  If L3 is disconnected input current goes up Light brightens.

When L3 is reconnected input current goes down and the light dims.

Chris posted this 03 June 2023

Hey Madscientist,

This is exactly correct, just apply the very same principle to the POC, you have it exactly correct, but just the wrong Coils doing the Work.

 

Well Done! It is very easy isnt it when one has the right Direction and guidance!

The difference between the two waveforms is just Diode Polarity. POCOne opposes your Input Coil, POCTwo opposes POCOne, but assists your Input Coil. This is Induced by Polarity!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Madscientist posted this 04 June 2023

Thanks for the feedback Chris, Iam going to make some changes in connection on the output coils circuit.

Madscientist posted this 04 September 2023

Gd day to all members, i was busy for a while but still got some time to do work on Chris's non inductive coil replication. I have been experimenting  with 3 different cores with the setup,  and here is my latest and it save me the best sawtooth wave fo far:  L1 is 8 turns, L2 is 300 and L3 is 300. L1 wire is is bigger than the wires on L2&L3.   I have a delay circuit that switches on L3, yellow trace is the pulse to the mosfet gate that switches L1 and the purple is the pulse to the mosfet gate that switches L3.  but it's tuned on "no delay" for now as shown below.   Now moving the probes and looking at the currents through L2 and L3 I get these waves after some tuning, yellow trace is L2 and purple trace is L3.  The sawtooth wave is not good here, the linear decrease on L3 is too fast, In an effort to get it better I tried many adjustments on input voltage frequency and duty cycle with no success, but when l grounded my scope i got a better sawtooth wave on L3.   Iam i moving in the right direction? Please advise on what voltage value is to use RMS,Peak to peak or Mean? Chris and the team thanks for sharing knowledge.     

Chris posted this 05 September 2023

Hello ,Madscientist,

I believe you're getting close, this image is showing some progress:

 

Of course, you need to verify, using the Right Hand Grip Rule, via Conventional Current Flow, and make sure your Partnered Output Coils are Opposing each other. I have already explained all this, about a million times now in many different places, so please forgive my abrupt response.

Follow the information I have clearly laid out in my 11 Video Series and thread here: Chris's Non-Inductive Coil Experiment

Ask the very simple questions:

  1. Why must Partnered Output Coils Oppose?
  2. What happens when POC Oppose?
  3. What does Bucking Magnetic Fields, Non-Inductive Configuration, have to do with Energy "Generation"?
  4. What is Energy "Generation"?
  5. How is Electric Energy Defined?
  6. What is an Electric Current?
  7. What is a Voltage? And how are these variables measured correctly?

 

All these very simple questions, all covered here on this forum, by myself, many times. Very simple topics that all the other forums have entirely missed and never cover in any detail, sadly, because these topics are critical and without knowing any of this information, they are wasting their time!

I am happy to help, when you have done the study, and I can see you have done your home work and you know what direction you should be heading, then we can gain a much greater direction, instead of fumbling in the dark, like the other forums do!

Currently, you are heading in the right direction, study why now.

Best Wishes,

   Chris

 

P.S: In the following image, you have nice linear scope traces, which is correct, this is because there is not enough Turns, one needs to get the Voltage Up, so up your turns:

 

In other words, the Potential, or Voltage, on the Terminals of the POC is gone, before the Cycle has ended, and the scope shows a Zero Potential on the Graticule Lines, and one needs a Potential, to Pump Current. Expand this, what I have alluded to here, its boarder than just turns.

Think of it this way: While your POC has no Voltage, there can be no Current Flow! While there is a Voltage, a Current can Flow! Potential, or Voltage, is the Requirement here!

Madscientist posted this 05 September 2023

Chris thanks for that input, without information on this forum and your guidance i would be more like lost in the jungle. I going to increase the turns  and study the reaction on the partnered output coils. 

I have a 3 minute video (30MB) i would like to share showing an intresting effect you talked about in many threads here. 

Switching off L3 the input current goes up (Light dims!), and switching it on the input current goes down & (Light brightens!)

Whats the limit on the size of the video clip that can e posted here?

Chris posted this 05 September 2023

Hey Madscientist,

I have a detailed response here: Partnered Output Coils.

Regarding your queries:

I have a 3 minute video (30MB) i would like to share showing an intresting effect you talked about in many threads here. 

 

Yes, please upload it here in the File Manager, see: Help with using the Forum. for assistance using it. 

 

Switching off L3 the input current goes up (Light dims!), and switching it on the input current goes down & (Light brightens!)

 

Yes, this is correct, you are on the right track!

 

Whats the limit on the size of the video clip that can e posted here?

 

Maximum file size is 300Mb. Video files are automatically converted to the correct format if its not already.

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Madscientist posted this 06 September 2023

The effect:

Switching off L3 the input current goes up (Light dims!), and switching it on the input current goes down & (Light brightens!

 

Madscientist posted this 06 September 2023

Sorry about that i posted the video the wrong way, but this is it. i think i did it right this time, sorry for the mess

Chris posted this 07 September 2023

Hey Madscientist,

Well done, yes, you are right.

L3 is typically an assistive force, its the force that helps our machine do Work. The more L3 helps our machine do work, the more Above the Unity Boundary you can get. 

There are two factors that need be over come:

  1. Losses
  2. Above Unity

 

Once Losses are made up for, then you can see the Unity Boundary broken and surpassed.

Voltage is Charge Separation and Current is Pumped! Really very Simple and very Cheap! Club Dumb Dumb over on the other Forums cant work these simple things out! They are blissfully Ignorant to Fact!

Excellent work here, nice to see some progress. Study, learn, become familiar with all of it in exquisite detail. This is the path toward the Future! Free Energy Generation, because we understand Energy! Club Dumb Dumb cant work out the simplest things! Even the Paper Bag!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

ISLab posted this 10 September 2023

Gd day to all members, i was busy for a while but still got some time to do work on Chris's non inductive coil replication. I have been experimenting  with 3 different cores with the setup,  and here is my latest and it save me the best sawtooth wave fo far:  L1 is 8 turns, L2 is 300 and L3 is 300. L1 wire is is bigger than the wires on L2&L3.

Hi Madscientist, congratulations on your progress!

A suggestion for when you next wind your coils: make the bobbins narrower -- the narrower the better. This will raise your magnetic fields dramatically and thus raise your output voltages and currents.

See discussion here: https://www.aboveunity.com/thread/coil-geometry/

Good luck!

Madscientist posted this 12 September 2023

Thanks ISLab iam looking into that now, i was i was trying get the voltages up by changing numeber of turns but didnt try that.

thanks for the input.

 

Madscientist posted this 12 September 2023

Gd day members, just a short video before i proceed experimenting with ISLab's suggestion, i got a larger input current drop whe i connect L3

Chris posted this 13 September 2023

Hey Madscientist,

Very good, very productive work!

Voltage is "Generated" using Charge Separation, via Changing Magnetic Fields. POCOne "Generates" POCTwo's Voltage and POCTwo "Generates" POCOne's Voltage. Because Voltage and Current is in phase, Real Power, we can calculate the Peak POC Magnetic Field. 

Your Input Coil is simply Frequency Regulation, a Catalyst, that's why it was termed an "Excitation" Coil, to get the POC Working!

 

Move your Mind into an Asymmetrical Configuration, and spend a little bit of time, studding what and why Asymmetry is so Important.

You're doing a real good job, what you have, right there on the bench, is Light Years Ahead of the Other forums! You're doing, what Homer Simpson Science, says, cant be done! You're doing it!

Soon, I will be releasing another video, showing how completely useless, completely brainless, completely incompetent, the other forums are!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Madscientist posted this 13 September 2023

Thanks Chris iam studying as much as I can on the, Asymmetrical configuration is the key, and it's not in any textbook, I hope this site lasts because it has a lot of valuable information, good to see that you are defending the site from those attackers recently.

Chris posted this 16 September 2023

My Friends,

Madscientists statement:

i got a larger input current drop whe i connect L3

 

Is a very important Statement!

Lets look at this in a logical way: If L3 or POCTwo adds 10 Watts to a System, in the Positive Direction, as an Assistive Force, and the Losses the System, in the Negative Direction, against the Input Magnetic Field, as an Assistive Force, is 7 Watts, then you have over come the Systems Losses and also have an extra 3 Watts of Output Over and Above the Unity Boundary!

Asymmetrical Electromagnetic Induction has the benefit of having reduced Negative Forces due to Assistive Positive Forces:

  1. Input = 100% Positive Force. 
  2. OutputOne =  X% Negative Force. Non-assistive Force.
  3. OutputTwo = X% Positive Force. Assistive Force.

 

In the average Conventional Transformer, with an expected efficiency of 80%, if we add an Assistive force that adds 40% to the System, then we have built a Transformer using Asymmetrical Electromagnetic Induction, that shows an apparent 120% efficiency.

This is why we all need to build Asymmetrical Electromagnetic Induction Machines, because it works and is beneficial!

Each Coil is an Input to the System, from the Time Domain, Energy is gained from the Time Domain. Because they all Work together!

WOW you might say, well, its really not hard, we have been doing this for decades! Others, over on the Other Forums, because they have a very Low Native Intelligence, being damn Dumb to qualify for the Special Olympics, puts them at a massive disadvantage, we cant Help Dumb! That's a Job for Electric Shock Treatment!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Madscientist posted this 17 September 2023

Hello Chris , friends, regarding my statement, 

 "i got a larger input current drop when i connect L3"

 It's an interesting effect that iam still studying and trying to understand, my initial  thinking was that input current should be going up when I connect L3, because iam introducing an extra load to  the circuit when I connect L3. But the opposite happened!  And this effect occurs at a specific frequency  and dutycycle, and input voltage. The shape of the sawtooth wave is also important, The effect increases, in other words "input current drop" increases when there is a linear decrease on the sawtooth wave.  i have come to believe that a perfect sawtooth wave gives the best  manifestation of this effect, without the sawtooth wave, the effect is gone. Iam still studying it. I havent done measurements and power calculations yet, but i will get there with time.   thx. Madscientist

Madscientist posted this 09 November 2023

A deeper look at the "input current drop" effect.   Hello Chris, friends I have been doing some  adjustments on  the coil length, made the bobbins a bit narrower and somehow 1 managed to fit 250 turns on L2 and L3, It's hard to get some of the components over here but I later managed to scavenge 1ohm resistors that iam using as current sensing resistors on the patterned output coils.     After some adjustments on frequency, dutycycle and input voltage, I got  the best sawtooth wave so far, the linear decrease ends at the right point  at the end of the cycle and the input current drop effect was present.

My target now is to increase up on this effect.   Looking at the currents I noticed something Iam still trying to understand. ; please advise me if my thinking is wrong. When L3 is not connected, we have a normal stepup transformer, i measured a current through L1 via a 1 ohm resistor.   Observation: Switching in L3 i observed that the current iam measuring through L2 does not change. But the input current on the power supply drops.   And the input current  from the DC power supply powering the whole circuit is around  500ma. The purple trace is showing current through L1 8volts across the resistor giving 8A !.i think its a wrong reading, please advise. This is just for illustration how iam measuring the current through L1, R4 is the current sensor.  Iam using a gate driver which is not included in shematic above.    

Madscientist posted this 09 November 2023

Just a small correction; Observation: Switching in L3 i observed that the current iam measuring through "L1" does not change.

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Chris posted this 09 November 2023

Hey Guys,

Your waveforms look good, but they have a curve in them, they are meant to be linear, straight lines.

 

Its really easy, all you need to do is follow the Circuit and the instructions I have given:

 

 

Wistiti showed everyone how to do it:

 

Try to further understand the Magnetic Field has a Direction and a Magnitude, and the Direction and the Magnitude can exert different forces on each other, for example, in this experiment, you should get L1Magnetic Field + L2Magnetic Field + L3Magnetic Field = L3Magnetic Field, and conventionally, we have L1Magnetic Field + L2Magnetic Field = Zero, so we have an Assistive Force from L3 when connected and oriented correctly, that assists L1.

In other words, L2 opposes L1 and L3 Opposes L2, so L3 must therefore Assist L1, and if you have a 20% Assistive force, for the same Output, then you're gonna be close t Unity at this point if you have a 80% Efficient Transformation.

Symmetry: L1Magnetic Field + L2Magnetic Field = Zero

Asymmetry: L1Magnetic Field + L2Magnetic Field + L3Magnetic Field = L3Magnetic Field

Very easy, very simple.

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Madscientist posted this 11 November 2023

Hey Guys,

Your waveforms look good, but they have a curve in them, they are meant to be linear, straight lines.

 

Gd day Chris thanks for the reply , i repalced the diode on L2 with a shottky diode and after some tuning this is the result, the input voltage drop effect is still present.

 

Chris posted this 11 November 2023

Hey Mad Scientist,

Now this:

 

Is beautiful!

I believe you have achieved the effect, now all you need do is study intently, what you have achieved, and then with a little work, make improvements. Your name has been added to our list, here: Builders Guide to Aboveunity Machines

Well done my friend, this is a very important effect!!!

This effect can change the entire world!

The Magnetic Field has an Energy Density, thus the greater the Magnetic Field, the Greater the Energy Density! The Greater the Output, the more Power to power your Load! What constitutes a Stronger Magnetic Field, Coil Geometry.

You should be very proud of yourself! Please don't give up! Please My Friend, don't give up, you are there now, just study what you have!

Best Wishes,

  Chris

Madscientist posted this 12 November 2023

Thanks Chris, for the guidance & motivation, iam not done yet, my goal is to better understand this effect and increase up on it so iam still studying it. I will continue presenting my results on this. Thx,

Madscientist

Chris posted this 13 November 2023

My Friend, you are very welcome!

This knowledge you have gained has the potential to change the world! You are one of the Leaders, ahead of the pack, and others will look up to you and others here, for guidance, when they start their journey.

Thank You! Thank You for being a Good Hearted Human Being, that wants to stand up and lead the change coming!

I am more than happy to help you and others that put in the effort! I will support you the best I can, always!

I need to warn, there are a lot of Scum Sucking Filth, Shills out there, so beware of their games, tactics and idiot behaviors, they will mislead, distract and try very hard to lead you away from the truth! OMG we have struck a lot of Complete Idiot Shill Plagiarist, filthy Human Beings, a total Disgrace to the Human Race! Real Scum!

That aside, we have so much potential, we are world changing, world leading, Researchers! We are doing things that others have only ever dreamt about, many never ever even coming close to the truth! We have experiments that show things that no one else has ever achieved!

The Magnetic Field, under a State we know how to Invoke, and shared freely, Compressed, becomes a Charge Pump, it Frees and Accelerates Charge, down the Wire. The more Stress, Compression we invoke, the More Charge is Freed and Accelerated!

 

It is very very simple, but we must train our minds to think about this entire field in the Correct Way! Currently, Science does not teach the Truth in this field! It is vague and full of fantasy! We all have to force our minds to think simply, on Simple things, because this is NOT Hard! Its Really Not!

 

We have corrected the missing gap in Human Evolution, the gap that was deliberately inserted, by very evil people! Once you have a few very simple experiments under your belt, you will see, clearly, how simple, how cheap, how absolutely essential, this very basic Science is!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Madscientist posted this 14 November 2023

Hello Chris

You are one of the few people with a vast  knowledge in electromagnetic induction,  I think it was a surprise that you shared your knowledge on this, some researchers  choose to keep the knowledge a secret and present a working device,  i dont blame them because some bad people will present it the as their own invention without giving credit to the true researcher.

Iam aware of the those trolls who might mislead so will be careful.

thx.

Madscientist

Madscientist posted this 01 December 2023

Gd day Chris  and the team, iam still experimenting and learning this device and will keep sharing when something gets my attention. Right now I have been testing different loads. 1.4W, 2.8W, 5W and 10W  bulbs all marked 12V.    

What I noticed is that the sawtooth wave gets better(linear)as i increase the load. Right now my load is 10W 12V fluorescent bulb.  

Input power vs output power:  

Chris I know you advised that we should focus on the effects, well ido focus on effects but sometime I tend to look at the input and output.  

Input    

Output  

I did some Power calculations and iam not claiming Aboveunity but seems like iam putting in 7.3W and getting out 9.98W. this is only possible with a 10W load. Using the current through L2 and the resistance of the bulb i calculate the power dissipated by the bulb.  

thanks for the advice and guidance  

Madscientist  

Chris posted this 01 December 2023

Hey Madscientist,

You're at the same stage as Marcel, please read and study Here, this will help.

Power output, depends on POC Voltage "Generated", and Coils Geometry because the Geometry gives rise to the Energy Density Achieved.

My Advice, keep your current setup, learn as much as you can from this! Study the links I have given and look for areas where we can make for improvements, and then slowly plan your next step.

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Madscientist posted this 22 June 2024

Hello friends,

I have been away for a while dealing with some other challenges in life, with some little progress but still experimenting from time to time with this experiment, I ordered myself a nanocrystalline core from King Magenetics from China. Wound new coils and tried to make the as short as I can, in length in order to get higher opposing currents/magnetic fields in the partnered output coils.

 

A deeper look at this effect:

With the new core and after some tuning these parameters; input voltage, frequency, dutycycle and delay(L3 conduction), i found a sweet spot where the input current on the power supply drops from 1.6Amperes to 400ma.

Well I will start with L3 off here,

I got a high input current on the power supply Input is 12volts 1.6Amperes my current sensing resistor on L2 is 0.22ohm and i measure 56mv over this resistor.  

 L3 on gives;

Switching in L3 the input current drops from 1.6 amps to 0.4 amps, this is the highest input current drop i have seen since my last post. The sawtooth  wave isn't perfect but if I do some more tuning  and make the sawtooth wave perfect, the effect decreases,

L1(purple trace) and L2(yellow trace) currents: (L3 off).

So I decided to look at the input(L1) and output(L2) currents. 400mv mean on L1 and 80mv Crms on L2

 

L1(purple trace) and L2(yellow trace) currents: (L3 on).

Currents. 400mv mean on L1 and 40mv Crms on L2.

I see a clear indication of L3 assisting, When L3 is connected current from the power supply drops by 1 Amp which is an improvement from last post when the current drop was around 300ma.    Apart from that i have trying to get my magnetic fields/currents up which is still challenging me.  I increased the CSA with the new core and decresed the coil length but got no visible increase in currents through L2 and L3. It will be helpful with some advice on this.  

 

Be safe Madscientist  

FringeIdeas posted this 22 June 2024

That is a pretty good drop in input current, nice! And glad to see you still experimenting, I thought you had disappeared.

Marcel

Chris posted this 22 June 2024

Hey Madscientist,

Well done, congratulations My Friend, you have achieved what many think is impossible! You are another to show it is Cheap and Simple to achieve!

Sometimes having a small break makes all the difference, it lets all the information sink in better.

Well done My Friend! I have marked the Thread AboveUnity! I have also added your post again the Successes List.

The Output POC Voltage is important, and if we look at Ohms Law: I = V / R, we can see, by increasing the Output Voltage Generated, we also increase the output Current for no extra cost on the Input. Your POC must do all the work, which you have shown already to do, so keep doing what you're doing and study Faradays Law of Electromagnetic Induction, more turns will help you!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Madscientist posted this 23 June 2024

Thanks Marcel, I have been doing more reading and less experimenting lately in an effort to try understand what's going on, but iam still here still experimenting.

Madscientist posted this 23 June 2024

Thanks Chris for the input and guidance, I will still continue the improvements, my goal now is to get my magnetic fields /poc currents up and balanced and try to get better results.

FringeIdeas posted this 10 August 2024

@Madscientist hey there, couple questions for you, the next time you come online.

On this latest build of yours, I notice that the input power drops (significantly), but the light dims instead of getting brighter. Not bad, or wrong, I too have got a new core, AMCC800B, and I am seeing the same thing.

I decided to revisit this experiment with the new core just to answer questions I still had. I decided to start with 300 turns of 0.8mm and work my way down. I've got down to 220 turns now, and I'm having quite a difficult time finding the areas where the input current goes down and the light gets brighter. So.. my questions, and I looked for this info, I hope I didn't over-read something you wrote already.

  1. What gauge wire are you using?
  2. How many turns on the coils? input and POC coils.
  3. Have you found any areas where the bulb gets brighter when shorting L3?

Thank you, I hope all is going well!

Marcel

Chris posted this 11 August 2024

Hey Guys,

If I may, I want to help out, there is a period of confusion that sets in, once you have completed experiments up to a certain point, because the workings of this machine are very Un-Conventional! We have a System that does not follow the Enforced Symmetrical Convention!

First up, I have not pointed this out yet, but the Polarities used by MadScientist were not correct, he has the effects reversed. I was hoping he would see this and correct it himself.

Your Questions:

  1. What gauge wire are you using?
  2. How many turns on the coils? input and POC coils.
  3. Have you found any areas where the bulb gets brighter when shorting L3?

 

Second, what your asking in your questions, can be thought about a different way, in a way that can be more beneficial to the end result:

 

What interactions need to occur, in what order, to make for a result that is beneficial to the working process of the machine?

 

Then, we break this process down, into the smallest possible components, Diakoptics, invented by Gabriel Kron, Floyd Sweets Mentor:

 

Asymmetry

In every Asymmetrical System, we must always have components of Symmetry! In other words, Symmetry in a system is a precursor to an Asymmetrical System! This maybe part of the reason that Asymmetrical Systems can be somewhat difficult for some people to grasp?

Asymmetrical Electromagnetic Induction works like this:

  1. The Input Coil is turned on and has a ΔI / Δt change in Current, thus the Magnetic Field shows us the same Change via ΔΦB / Δt, at Right Angles to the Current I.
  2. POCOne Opposes your Input Coil, there is a Symmetry here, similar to the Input Output of a Conventional Transformer via ΔΦB / Δt.
  3. POCTwo Opposes POCOne, there is Electromagnetic Induction occurring here, via ΔΦB / Δt. POCTwo introduces Asymmetry to a Conventional Symmetrical System.

 

You can see, POCTwo must assist your Input Coil! There is no other way for this to work!

 

The VTA Description is as follows:

 Consider for a moment the construction of the triode which includes the bifilar coils located within the fields of the two magnets.

When the current in one half of the conductors in the coils (i.e., one of the bifilar elements in each coil) of the device is moving up, both the current and the magnetic field follow the right-hand rule.

 

The resultant motional E-field would be vertical to both and inwardly directed.

At the same time the current in the other half of the conductors in the coils is moving down and both the current and magnetic field follow the right-hand rule.

 

The resulting motional E-field is again vertical to both and inwardly directed.

Thus, the resultant field intensity is double the intensity attributable to either one of the set of coil conductors taken singularly.

 

Newtons Laws of Motion

Pretty much the basis for Science today, Newton Invented Conventional Science in a very short time! However, the interpretation/understanding has been either been ignored or forgotten, if one knows about the true Story of Newton!

 

The Third Law currently reads:

For every Action there is an Equal and Opposite Reaction.

 

Is an incomplete statement, because this Law does not account for Systems that are NOT Symmetrical! In other words, Asymmetrical Systems, and there are many, the Symmetrical Law is inadequate to describe what truly occurs!

The Third Law needs to be amended to read:

For every Action there is an Equal and Opposite Reaction, and for every Reaction there is an Equal and Opposite Counter-Reaction.

 

now corrected, so that Asymmetrical Systems can be described accurately, we have a whole new half of Science that opens up for us!

 

Input Coil

Newtonian descriptor: Action

A Magnetic Field in the System: ΔΦB / Δt which Floyd Sweet referred to as "the excitation coil", this coil is a control mechanism, regulating System Frequency and bringing the System into Operation: 

 

The Input Coil has some very unique properties when the System is running, it can very easily be shown, the Input Coils Impedance can change drastically, sometimes increasing in Impedance by thousands of Ohms! We have shown this many times here on this Forum!

 

POCOne

Newtonian descriptor: Reaction

A Magnetic Field in the System: ΔΦB / Δt, that can be measured, changing over Time t, that is a Source for Electromagnetic Induction to occur.

The combination of Turns, Load Impedance and the Voltage Generated gives you a Specific Magnetic Field Generated.

POCOne Generates POCTwos Voltage.

 

POCTwo

Newtonian descriptor: Counter-Reaction

A Magnetic Field in the System: ΔΦB / Δt, that can be measured, changing over Time t, that is a Source for Electromagnetic Induction to occur.

The combination of Turns, Load Impedance and the Voltage Generated gives you a Specific Magnetic Field Generated.

POCTwo Generates POCOnes Voltage.

 

Magnetic Resonance

POCOne and POCTwo must be in Magnetic Resonance! This means at time t, the Magnetic Fields of POC One and Two must always be Equal and Opposite! In Magnetic Resonance!

 

This requires the Turns, the Voltage and the Load Impedance all be equal in Magnitude!

When we have Magnetic Resonance, we have a standing Wave of Current, 2 x I, the Magnetic Fields B and H Cancel, if you do vector Math on them, and the Gate to the Dirac Sea is open, we have an Output Power, provided by the Motional Electromagnetic field: E.M.F = -ΔΦB/Δt

 

Observing Currents

When the Currents of POCOne and POCTwo are Equal but Opposite, then you know you have Magnetic Resonance, if:

  1. Turns are both the same.
  2. Load Resistance is both the same.
  3. Voltage Generated is the same.

 

Defining a Magnetic Field in a Coil

The Turns N, Current I, Length L, Relative Permeability μr, and Permeability μ0, define the Magnetic Field using Amperes Law.

 

// Permeability:
Permeability = RelativePermeability * VacuumPermeability;

// Turn Density:
TurnDensity = N / L;

// Magnetic Field:
B = Permeability * TurnDensity * I;

 

 

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Madscientist posted this 11 August 2024

Hei Marcel, its good to hear that you got similar effects,  i had 6 turns on the input coil, 150 turns on poc1 and 150 turns poc2.  Wire size is 22.5 swg on the partnered output coils and around 19 swg on the input. in all scenarios input voltage from the psu is kept at 14 V. The core is nanocrystaline KMNC-100 https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/KMNC-100-Nanocrystalline-Alloy-Magnetic-Material1601172526266.html?spm=a2700.shopplser.41413.2.36d7452c7iJmu6 And yes i found areas where the light gets brighter and and the input current drop effect decreases,   Frequency when poc2 is off is around 35khz but jumps to around 44khz when i switch on poc2! Input current drops by around 1 amp  and the light dims! Dutycycle is around 10% when poc2 is on.  

Chris i know that while experimenting with this setup and under a certain setup of input voltage, current, frequency, dutycycle and POC2  delay, there is a spot where the effect reversed,  If i slowly decrease the dutycycle, there is a point i guess between 10% dutycycle and 5% where i get small input current drop of about 100ma, but the light does the opposite, it gets brighter when poc2 is switched in. This is what i consider to be the correct effect .  

   

FringeIdeas posted this 11 August 2024

@Madscientist I think that link no longer works, but nice core!

And thank you for the specs, that helps me here with my tests.

Just for the record, my input coil is 1mm wire, and each time I test the POC coils I start my input coil at about 30 turns, and work my way down to around 8 or so, trying different frequencies and duty cycles, just watching. Then I remove turns from my POC coils and do it all again. I am seeing the same as you, but at around 14KHz with my current 220 turns. With 300 turns on the POC coils the effects seemed to be lower, say 6KHz or something like that. I guess that is expected.

Anyway, you seem to be doing a great job poking at this, it's nice to see. This new core of mine definitely has different behavior I was not expecting. So I'm pausing my other experiments, as I think I was spreading myself too thin and just running around in circles. I'll focus only on this experiment again, as it's become apparent there is still a lot to learn and become familiar with.

Be sure to share any new revelations, and I'll be sure to do the same on my thread, thanks again!

@Chris, as always, thank you for the information there. Good direction. Rest assured it will be read and re-read several times.

Thanks again guys!

Marcel

Chris posted this 11 August 2024

Hey Madscientist,

Yes, you are correct:

it gets brighter when poc2 is switched in. This is what i consider to be the correct effect .  

 

Spot on, thank you for your effort in sharing and helping to progress the Community.

Best Wishes,

   Chris

FringeIdeas posted this 11 August 2024

@Chris I did actually have one question, just for clarification. I meant to ask earlier but it's been chaotic around the house here today.

You said "the Polarities used by MadScientist were not correct". By polarities, are you simply meaning the diode directions?

I ask because since I noticed in Madscientists video the input going down but light dimming, which I have seen a lot of here myself, I was quick to assume I had diode issues. It appeared to me that shorting POC2 was assisting POC1, instead of assisting the input coil like it should be. But after checking over by setup several times I'm sure my diodes are functional and placed in the correct orientation. So by "Polarities", might you have meant something other than the diodes?

Thank you again!

Marcel

Chris posted this 11 August 2024

Hey Marcel,

Yes, you're on the right track:

You said "the Polarities used by MadScientist were not correct". By polarities, are you simply meaning the diode directions?

 

Always use the Right Hand Grip Rule and Conventional Current, remembering Applied Current, and an Induced Current are different things, and need to be understood as such.

So, using the Right Hand Grip Rule on the Input Coil, to gain the Pole Direction, applying the Right Hand Grip Rule on POCOne to make sure the Pole Directions Oppose, and again for POCTwo, to make sure POCTwo Oppose POCOne

Therefore, Your Input Coil is Opposed by POCOne, POCOne Opposes POCTwo, Which means POCTwo must be additive, assist your Input Coil, and this is what pushes your Input Coils Impedance up very high.

Three is the Magic Number! We have a System where all of the Coils are Working to Open the System up to the Dirac Sea! We have a Classically Open System!

When all the Coils work together in this way, we see both Partnered Output Coils Impedance reduced down nearly to Zero, thus a Superconducting arrangement, the more Power that is drawn, the more the system moves toward a Superconducting arrangement, Zero Net Impedance, and the Input Coils Impedance is pushed up very High.

Polarity is just ensuring you have the Coils working the way I have described, and yes sometimes its the Polarity of the Diodes, but you have to get this correct from the Input Coil first. If the Input Coil has been connected backwards, again has the wrong polarity, then we will see the Input Power go up when the POC are Loaded. As you know, this is not the goal! Input Power must go down under Load, because POCOne + POCTwo = 0, the Net Magnetic Field Vector Summation is Zero, Superposition! This means, your Input Coils does not have any load on it and actually more power is returned via the Input Coil than is conventionally seen.

We have covered before, the fact that the Input Coil sends Power Back to your Input! This is directly related to the Argand Diagram:

 

We can have Positive Voltage and Positive Current for Positive Power!

Inversely, we can have Positive Voltage and Negative Current, for Negative Power!

Here is an example:

 

Where:

  • Purple Trace is the Math, showing Positive and Negative Power.
  • Pink Trace is the Gate Signal to the Mosfet.
  • Yellow is the Input Voltage.
  • Teal Trace is the Input Current, both Positive and Negative.

 

I must apologise, I have better examples of this, but do not wish to confuse everyone. This example is sufficient to show what I am talking about.

 

Again, marked in Red, Positive Voltage and Negative Current, you have Negative Power. Not Negative Energy, Negative Power, I hope people do not confuse this as I believe people have in the past.

I hope this helps others when doing experiments, knowing what to look for is very important!

Remember: This is the very reason you can NOT Use RMS Measurements on the Input! See Measurements Thread and see the above Figures:

  • Average: 95.7 mW
  • RMS: 1.28 W


A Huge error here! 1.28 - 0.095 = 1.185 Watts. 13.474 times!

RMS is totally Wrong! Remember, your Zero Graticule Line is very important:

  • above: Positive
  • below: Negative

 

Its worth noting, there is 1.28 Watts in the System. An analogy, inaccurate as it stands, is, Power Delivered to the Coil might be in the order of 1.28 Watts. Then the Coil returns 1.28 - 0.095 = 1.185 Watts back to the Power Supply. So the Total Power used is only: 0.095 Watts. Power Returned, is not Power Used! 

 

The Full Time Idiots over on the other Forums have never ever pointed such Simple Engineering experiments out before! Because they are PAID to Hide such things!

Some of these Full Time Morons tell you: "You must use RMS on your Input Measurements!" 

What Idiots they have proven themselves to be! And they offered to "help me", hahaha what a joke! They have no idea whatsoever! They cant even help themselves! I have shown these idiots to be Brain Dead Fools!

So, polarities are just the Method of Operation of the Coils, all working together. Each Coil adding to the System, so we get an MMF Equation that becomes:

Input CoilM.M.F + POCOneM.M.F + POCTwoM.M.F = Input CoilM.M.F

 

We have more M.M.F in the System, an Asymmetrical Arrangement of M.M.F!

The difference is, in a Conventional System, we have:

PrimaryM.M.F + SecondaryM.M.F = Zero

 

Nothing left over! Superposition gives us a Net Vector Summation of Zero, totally Consumed! A Symmetrical Arrangement of M.M.F!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Madscientist posted this 10 September 2024

Hello Chris and the team,

I have been experimenting recently with this and here are the results, correct me if iam wrong iam still learning and just presenting what I find in these experiments, comments, advice and criticism iam ready for that as long as it helps me to progress.

  I upgraded my switching circuit, replaced the mosfet with an IGBT.     Current sensing resistors: I upgraded my 0.1 ohm wire wound non inductive resistor with this. It's a non inductive cement resistor is not wire wound.  

  Input 0.8amps 23 volts Load; 12 volt 5W incandescent bulb on L2     Sawtooth wave on L3 isn't perfect but this is one of the sweet spots where I get what I consider to be the correct effect. "Input current drops and light brightens when L3 is switched on".   Output voltage on the light bulb, and current through L2 Rms values; When L3 is connected, output voltage over the bulb goes up by 2 volts but output current through L2 does not change.   Iam still experimenting focusing on delayed conduction in L3 with a goal to improve on the input current drop effect, advice on this will be appreciated.   thanks again for sharing knowedge.   Br. Madscientist.

Madscientist posted this 10 September 2024

sorry but this is part of the recent post.

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