Hi all, been working on one of tinman's devices and have very similar results.
Here is a circuit drawing.
Comments welcome
https://i.postimg.cc/s2jB7phN/Tinman-s-bucking-coil-experiment.png
Tinman's Bucking Coil Experiments
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Chris
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03 January 2024
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Hey Skywatcher,
I added the image to your post, hope you dont mind?
Tinman came up with a useful circuit Aug 8 2019, BUT, there were many with the same circuit, well before him!
Now, I believe, if you are the same Skywatcher, you and Wistiti produced this basic circuit well before Tinman came on the Partnered Output Coil seen, over on ou.com. So you were years earlier than Tinman! Tinman kept his circuit secret in June 2015 for the RTV3.0, so nothing useful was shared back then.
Hi folks, thanks for the kind words emjunkie.
The primary inducer is just a joule thief (blocking oscillator) at the moment.
The non-modified led bulb was just to see if any juice was coming out.
I disconnected the led bulb and placed a direct short across partnered coils and the amp draw lowers as stated.
That is all i can say for now about the way it is setup, which is different than any joule thief with secondary i have ever played with.
Go ahead and try it, make a regular joule thief with secondary and short the secondary, the amp draw will definitely increase.
My next approach at this, will be using the simple inverter circuit with two transistors to power the primary inducer, this will give an alternating ac type input.
peace love lightRef: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy - January 22, 2015
Although Tinman has contributed to the Partnered Output Coil Field, or Bucking Coil's as Power Generator, he definitely was not the first, and definitely others deserve credit before him! This narrative, being pushed into the community, by some people, is an interesting one, because all one need do is observe Time Stamps to see who was first, and instead of taking a name randomly and giving all credit to the Wrong Person, we should be giving credit to the right people that have actually made the most contributions!
Tinman copied and made use of the ideas and circuits we had already shared.
I know Wistiti has been working on this exact same circuit for nearly Ten Years now.
I personally think you have always been on the right track as Wistiti has always been.
Best Wishes,
Chris
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OriginalSkywatcher
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03 January 2024
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Hi Chris, thanks for the reply. Yes, i am the same skywatcher123 from the now closed down overunity.com.
I haven't been focussing on experiments much in the recent past, though i do like the way this tinman setup is easy to visualize its functioning in the mind.
No opposite wound coils, which may lessen confusion and trigger more light bulbs in onlookers minds.
Never meant to cause a proprietary debate over who discovered or stumbled upon 'ancient' technologies.
I am fiddling with this setup and it is showing interesting characteristics for sure.
At some point, i will try and boost the output by repeaters or more efficient design using same layout principles.
Experiments shall continue.
peace love light
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Chris
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03 January 2024
Hey Skywatcher,
I am sorry My Friend:
Never meant to cause a proprietary debate over who discovered or stumbled upon 'ancient' technologies.
I perhaps should not have gone off on a rant about who when and where, I am only trying to give you the credit you deserve, as you and Wistiti were some of the first, earliest, and most successful in this area.
Coil Geometry is a very important aspect, and from now on, I will be trying to get others to look at this area a little more intently, because, as I have stated in my thread: Partnered Output Coils are just a Blocking Oscillator, we can start doing better than we have in the past by looking at better analogies and ways of thinking about this.
Its really good to have you here with us Skywatcher! Please don't give up, I will help you all the way, I promise!
I am so pleased our Forum is back up and to be honest, we seem to be much more stable and reliable than before also! I am pleased, because we have such an excellent Community! We need to support all these wonderful people and get them up to speed!
Best Wishes,
Chris
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OriginalSkywatcher
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07 January 2024
Hi Chris, no worries, no shortage of things to rant about in this realm, i feel you and appreciate you and your good works.
I deserve to see humanity free and sovereign and that definitely includes a lifting of the suppression of excess energy devices, that is my wish.
What good is all the knowledge in the universe, if it can't be used by everyone, and no, a handful of "elites", does not count.
I am building a pancake air coil setup, using speaker wire for POC coils and trailer wire for primary oscillator.
This should have very good coupling and the POC coils speaker wire, are very close to each other, so it will be interesting to see how this 'tinman' type setup works with pancake coils.
The air gap between the primary and the POC coils is easily adjustable with this setup also.
Experiments shall continue.
peace love light
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Chris
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07 January 2024
Hey Skywatcher,
My Friend, I could not agree more with you!
Your Statement:
I deserve to see humanity free and sovereign and that definitely includes a lifting of the suppression of excess energy devices, that is my wish.
My Friend, we have 99% of the answers, we have working machines, and we have been sharing them freely for a long time. We see a problem, where it appears that too many are not versed enough to realize what they are looking at.
We have more! Please follow our Above Unity Tag, Where Above Unity = COP > 1.0 = Free Energy Machines.
My work here: Non-Inductive Coil Experiment explains all of this tech.
Best Wishes,
Chris
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OriginalSkywatcher
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08 January 2024
Hi all, Hi chris, thanks for the reply and the video. In that video, how is the input circuit sustaining itself, is their a connection somewhere, feeding some of the energy from the POC coils back to the input capacitor.
I finished building the pancake air coils and made some initial tests.
The coupling of these pancake coils is much better and i am seeing the same results, though with the air coils, the setup is behaving more exactly like the tinman air coils setup.
When POC coil L3 is loaded with 120volt gutted led bulb, there is the normal lenz effect observed and led bulb lights at a certain brightness.
While input amperage increases as normal per lenz, above the no load amp draw, meaning just the oscillator free wheeling with no loads attached.
However, when field coil L2 is loaded with another same type of led bulb load, that led bulb lights to similar brightness of other led bulb, and led bulb across L3 increases brightness a little.
At the same time, the input amperage decreases below the unloaded amp draw by at least
20-30 milliamps at 4.5 volt input.
So here we see again, the field coil L2 is aiding the primary coil L1 and becoming one pulsed magnetic field to induce or buck into coil L3, for greater output, while using less power and/or zero magnetic reflection back to primary coil, depending on quality of pulse oscillator circuit used.
Experiments will continue.
peace love light
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Chris
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08 January 2024
Hey Skywatcher,
Your question:
In that video, how is the input circuit sustaining itself, is their a connection somewhere, feeding some of the energy from the POC coils back to the input capacitor.
The thread, The Input Coil explains Negative Power.
Best Wishes,
Chris
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OriginalSkywatcher
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08 January 2024
Hi Chris, thanks for the link, I will read that thread over again.
Yes i agree, the input coil and oscillator, is important, we want the pulses at the right duty cycle and/or frequency for a given setup to get effects efficiently.
Using these pancake coils, with this joule thief type oscillator circuit, i almost always seem able to only need a capacitor as the base resistor off feedback winding.
I use a resistor in parallel with base capacitor, then remove resistor and it self oscillates with just the capacitor across transistor base, which seems fairly efficient that way.
Anyway, promising results, that most definitely block lenz from reflecting back to input primary coil and uses that blocking field coil to assist the input coil.
I would share picture of coil setup, though can't find my camera at the moment.
peace love light
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FringeIdeas
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08 January 2024
OriginalSkywatcher,
Here I was going to ask for pictures and got to the last line of your post about not being able to find your camera 😀
If you happen to find that thing, yes please, share a few pics. Not sure if you could swing a few scope shots too? Would be awesome to see.
The pancake coils were something that I wanted to investigate at some point. Just to have a look at the magnetic field properties of the setup. But currently I have my experiments lined up, working through them with limited time, and don't want to deviate just yet.
Thanks,
Marcel
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Chris
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08 January 2024
Hey SkyWatcher,
My Friend, absolutely spot on:
Anyway, promising results, that most definitely block lenz from reflecting back to input primary coil and uses that blocking field coil to assist the input coil.
This statement is 100% correct! I wish Others could see, and experiment with this very basic effect, problem is, 90% of the community, out there, just are not smart enough to see the facts for what they are!
This is:
- So Simple!
- Very Cheap to experiment with!
- Very practical and useful!
Best Wishes,
Chris
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OriginalSkywatcher
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08 January 2024
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Hi fringeideas, i felt that, which is probably why i was scrambling to find another camera and i did.
The trailer wire 16awg. white and 18awg. black wire pancake coil is the oscillator, the bottom black wire is the feedback wire, white is primary.
The speaker wire POC coil, i think is 24awg., might be 22awg. been awhile since i bought it.
The bottom coil of speaker wire is L2, top coil is L3.
The very large 18awg. speaker wire pancake coil underneath, is not in use, it's from another project.
Hi chris, thanks for the encouraging words.
Though without you sharing your work and experiments, i would probably not be aware of this technology.
You explain things simply enough, where most people can comprehend it.
That's why i like this tinman type setup, it's easy to build and wrap ones head around why and how it works. This also shows people by direct evidence right on their bench, that lenz can be blocked by clever use of diodes, coils and used to our advantage.
peace love light
https://i.postimg.cc/rmJThkmk/pancake-coil-tinman-bucking-coil-setup.jpg
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Chris
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09 January 2024
Hey SkyWatcher,
My Friend, I am so pleased you're here with us! Part of the old team, you, Wistiti and a few others are the original few that made headway at a very early stage!
Hope you don't mind, I added your image to your post.
This link may help: Help with using the Forum.
Good work My Friend, thanks for Sharing!
Best Wishes,
Chris
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FringeIdeas
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09 January 2024
OriginalSkywatcher, Nice, thank you for sharing. Looking forward to seeing more!
Marcel
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OriginalSkywatcher
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10 January 2024
Hi chris, i'm glad to be here.
Thanks for adding the picture, i will learn how that is done here.
Hi fringeideas, your welcome.
I will have to make a video, showing the digital buck boost amperage readout, increasing and decreasing, while no loads are connected to POC coils and as led loads are added.
peace love light
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