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Chris posted this 3 weeks ago

 

This Thread is for discussion of my Thread: 

Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

 

I have my Thread locked, the reason is for future coming posts and the show my work. There is a level of understanding required to make this work, and this will make no sense to most unless a level of understanding is achieved first.

I have tried to create threads that support this thread, as this thread will be the most important of all, but as I have said before, "another Demonstration will not help" and it truly wont help, unless one understands the concepts I have shared for so many years now.

Don Smith's Demonstration did nothing to progress others:

 

Graham Gunderson's Demonstration did nothing to progress others:

 

Tinman's Demonstration did nothing to progress others: (Brad has lost the ability to recreate his original work)

 

My Demonstration will do nothing to progress others, unless others have learnt the concepts behind the device!

All these devices use Partnered Output Coils!

 

Working from the Output back to the requirements is the best way to learn what is really needed to achieve the Output in the first place.

At the same time, please remember, I also am still learning, I am trying to share what I have learnt, I believe it has great value, I think you will also, when you see the end result!

 

Important supporting Threads:

 

   Chris

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Vidura posted this 3 weeks ago

Hello team!

Great Chris to open this thread for all who wishes post or discuss anything related to POC. I think that it should be clear for most of us that there has been varios abouth unity energy devices, which actually works. It is also obvios that it is not possible to achive this with conventional tecniques and theories. In order to harness the  energy which is omnipresent, unexhaustable  and free we have to create an unbalance, break the symmetry . This has been shown by many brilliant researchers. Now one question is what is the best way to achive it practically? We know that there are here in the forum and all over the world a lot of people are trying by different means to replicate some of this known devices and many others researching for new methods. 

I beleave , and this is the reason for wich i joined this forum , the most important thing is the team. to share information , experiences , learn from each other and support anyone if help is needed. Finally iit is likely that there will be more than one of this devices working, as in other areas of tecnology is a huge number of devices for different applications.

As Chris stated it is most important to understant the principles behind this devices in order to make them work. Not less important are to test as many possibly useful  devices, tecniques and experimental setups. A third possibility to have success in my opinion is intuition, as sometimes including persons which are not experts, maybe almost without specific knowledge can disover very important things.

Now this is a lot of "Speech", I just want to wish all of you success  in your proyects ,or inspiration just by following  the threads.

 

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Chris posted this 3 weeks ago

Hi Vidura, and All,

Completely agree and thank you, your'e right!

I have Zero Connections with Investors and Zero Business Dealings. What I am sharing is what I have found, this is my work and it just happens to be the same as many before me. I have realised this after I found what I am sharing, as you could imagine, one could not know until one had already discovered. This is a re-discovery and I am doing this the way I think is best for all.

I have been blessed with many others sharing Independent Replications! Its worth noting, this is Industry Standard for new Technology, Independent Replications are the Ultimate Verification!

The Primary Action is simple, using a small amount of Electrical Energy is a requirement. This is the Regauging Part. Two things are achieved during this phase:

  • Create a Magnetic Field.
  • Electromagnetic Induction invokes a Voltage on the Output Terminals.

The Secondary Action is simple, this is where a very High Stress area is created, this Free's Electrons from Atomic Binding Forces and Accelerates them down the Wire.

This Action is the Jack in the Box part, where the Coils Fight between each other, they Buck, a Magnetic Standing Wave which is Magnetic Resonance:

This simply is two Magnetic Fields, each travelling in opposite directions, ( E ) which I have defined as Current, which is pretty much in Phase with the Magnetic Field ( B ), because each is analogous to the other.

If you can imagine, this is the same action as the Magnet Falling down the Copper Tube:

 

This is important to see, the Currents are created simply because the Magnetic Field is moving, or changing in Time ( t ) relative to the Copper Tube. This is the "Generation" of Electrical Energy!

We have this same scenario, each Magnetic Field is moving, or Changing in Time ( t ) relative to each other.

   Chris

Jagau posted this 3 weeks ago

Hey friends

I find an interesting definition of MAGNETIC RESONANCE 

   ( Interaction phenomenon that can occur between
    a radio wave and an atom or ion when the latter is also subject to a
    constant magnetic field. This phenomenon occurs only when the
    frequency of the wave has a very precise value proportional to the magnetic field. )

This brings to thinking, we have here 3 different component.
An already present radio wave subjected to a constant magnetic field with a precise frequency.
I did not see it like this, I'm now thinking?
Jack

 

 

 

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Marathonman posted this 3 weeks ago

I can not and will not comment on the whole electron wire thing as i am not here to disagree but what i will say is i whole heartedly agree with the action of a small energy is required for Regauging.  using some of the output to reinitialize the input or rather maintain it is the way it is. a standard geny does the very same thing as it uses a very little to feed back to make more output until the output is maintaining the exciters and the load. it does so over time not instantly which is so overlooked.

the primaries initialize the magnetic field (high stress area) but after polarization the the power to maintain the load is reduced to just the IR2 losses.

excuse me if i am wrong but i see as once the fields are established they are easily maintained by a gentle nudging of the primaries to maintain the load and the minimal feedback is by no means a drawback compared to the outcome whether in resonance or not.

 

Marathonman

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Vidura posted this 3 weeks ago

Hi, 

here i will post a link to a article which reveals important details about the standing waves in magnetic flux.The Autor is James W German, and there are some testing results from Olaf Behrens. It is stated that the standing waves of magnetic flux not only occure in coilarrangements, but in any type of generators , motors, transformers causing the well known effect of CEMF - CMMF.

According to this it is not enough only creating the Stressfield by opposed  like poles, in order to harness excess energy the Standing wave has to be unbalanced or totally avoided.

have a look at he article and test results here: http://tesla3.com/german-james/

 

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Marathonman posted this 3 weeks ago

Thanks for the article, I will agree with that as the Figuera device is kept unbalanced so this could have merit.

on a different note i found a gold mine. maybe this could be of use with bucking coils, if not good fine just the same.

here is the link. http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/Steinmetz/CP%20Steinmetz%20-%20Elementary%20Lectures%20on%20Electric%20Discharges,%20Waves%20and%20Impulses,%20and%20Other%20Transients%20-%201911.pdf

and here is a wealth of info.    http://tesla3.com 

 

Marathonman

Vidura posted this 3 weeks ago

I hope that i'm not going to far from the scope of this thread,  but i was reveving a couple of times the patent of James German and i just cant understand  the effect of the connection of the rotary flux swich L3 with the aluminium part, he states that the standing wave is only produced when the two ironpeaces are connected, when supported by nonconductive material no standing wave is set up.

if sombody can explain me i appreciate. 

Chris , if this does not fit in this topic feel free to move it to an other thread.

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Chris posted this 2 weeks ago

Please Note, this and some reply posts are from the Thread: Finding the LL resonance frequency

I wanted to put this in a separate post.

It is possible and can be beneficial, to add another Coil - Three Coils in Total.

Keep all your Polarity's, add a Coil same winding direction as your current Input/Output Coil, and keep the same Pulsing Polarity.

 

Where the Red Rectangle is Input On Time. 22% Duty Cycle. Current is amplified nearly four times. Voltage not shown, but is minimal. Just showing the basics.

This shows a pretty cool and important concept!

   Chris

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Chris posted this 2 weeks ago

Hey Guys,

Thanks for sharing, its quite Ironic.

I was told by someone that used to work with Floyd Sweet that he, Floyd Sweet, used to be a lacky, or lab assistant, for Steinmetz.

I dont have any evidence to support this and I can not prove it, but imagine...

 

On another topic, for future reads, please see: Finding the LL resonant frequency

CD_Sharp has done some excellent work here!

   Chris

Chris posted this 2 weeks ago

@Vidura, Took a bit to find.

Your data is excellent, thanks for sharing. To add tho this, some data also well worth a careful read: Generator of electricity according to the scheme Gramma and Description of Φ-Machine and Φ-Transformer - Alexander V. Frolov

 

Ref: Ski.biz

Some names in there I bet that wish they weren't! Check out the dates! More than 20 Years ago!

   Chris

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Vidura posted this 2 weeks ago

This designs ar really worth some testings, the most intriguing question is how could such a lot of valious information made dissapeared , deleted , rediculosed  for so many time??  

these days i will get some ironpowder which is intented for make some cores i wanted to test,i think i'll try the toroid , could be interesting use opposed coilset as primaries?

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Chris posted this 2 weeks ago

My Friends,

I do not wish to confuse you, but this is worth thinking about:

  1. Magnetic Field Time Rate of Change. 
  2. Field Density.
  3. Turns N.
  4. Cross Sectional Area, either l ⋅ w or π ⋅ r2
  5. Core Permeability.
  6. Core Speed, part of 1.
  7. Magnetic Field Direction of Travel at Time ( t ).

All these factors play a role.

I encourage you to use My Calculator Electromagnetic Induction. Look for the Voltage, try to work out your Device dimensions and use those to work out where you're at.

For example. in my last image, my dimensions are:

  • 180 Turns each Coil.
  • 186 Hz approximately
  • π x 0.852 = 0.0227 cm squared

My rough calculations give me a very close approximation using Faraday' s Law::

  • Area: 0.000226980069221863 Meters (m) Squared or 0.0226980069221863 cm squared.
  • Theta: 90 Degrees
  • B Initial: 0.0001 Tesla
  • B Final: 0.0452 Tesla
  • Delta B: 0.00184262420194308 Tesla
  • Delta T: 0.00537634408602151 Seconds
  • Voltage: 0.342728101561413 Volts

On my budget DMM I get:

 

A very close approximation, 0.3842 - 0.342728101561413 = Error Factor of 0.0415 approximately.

So, this gives us a huge advantage, knowing exactly what we need to look at doing to improve our Output!

I used the calculator attached below, in zip archive to calculate the Magnetic Field.

   Chris

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Chris posted this 2 weeks ago

My Friends,

To increase the Voltage, we have three things we can easily change:

  1. Core Size, known as Cross Sectional Area.
  2. Magnetic Field Strength, limited to Core Saturation.
  3. Turns on the Output Coils, limited to Space on the Former.

Other factors also, but are all dependant on Material:

  • Frequency of the Pulses, limited to Core Speed.
  • A very sharp Pulse, like a spark Gap pulse. This can be dangerous and a bit tricky to get right.

Note: If I double my Cross Sectional Area, ( 0.85 x 2 ) my Output Voltage goes from: 0.3832 V to: 1.371 V.

There is a required fiddling, its hard to get it right first try, but what I have given you is a good head start. Also, please remember, there are many ways to get the voltage up, to increase the Output. Remember, Amplitudes always increase at Resonance.

   Chris

 

P.S: Sorry if my posts seem a little strange today, I am off colour...

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Chris posted this 2 weeks ago

My Friends,

When I said:

Note: If I double my Cross Sectional Area, ( 0.85 x 2 ) my Output Voltage goes from: 0.3832 V to: 1.371 V.

I would also like to make another Quote, in the hope this is further understood:

By increasing the area of the Wire Exposed to, or occupying the fluctuating Magnetic Field,
Sparky doubled the output.

Lab Notes - Taken by Darryl Roberts for Aesop Institute 1985

 

The Voltage actually is 3.6 Times greater, and Current is subject to Voltage, please remember, Ohms Law: I = V / R

 

I want to make special note, please everyone be very careful. We are dealing with Electrical Energy which can be very dangerous. Take special care and please ensure all devices are off when you and your equipment are doing tests. I take no responsibility for injury to person or equipment, but I do encourage immense care.

   Chris

Chris posted this 2 weeks ago

My Friends,

Please remember, many ways to make this work exist. I am currently following one set of guidelines.

I try to make quote of others before me, to pay my respects to those, that have have led the way, and made great progress, before me.

Don Smith was vague but was 100% correct, Ruslan is another, I want to point out some important facts from Ruslan today:

All these systems operate on the basis of standing and traveling waves. It is necessary first to catch the motion of particles in the coil.

We know from experiment that this is accurate and true! Magnetic Standing Waves not Electric Standing Waves.

 

Now for removal: 1. The coil is connected via a diode bridge. No parallel capacitors !!! 2. You need from Tesla only one half wave. Otherwise Tesla will take what she gave, back !!!

 

You need to swing the swing in the coil of energy removal. It is there that we push the current.

We know that the excess of Current is "Generated" or Pumped by the Opposing Magnetic Fields, the Copper Wire is put under immense pressure! This Free's Electrons and Accelerates them down the Wire.

As I have pointed out in the past, Science has the Magnetic Field and Transformers, Electromagnetic Induction wrong! 

With unity coupling, transformers can have a very efficient transfer of Electrical Energy. We must ask the question, what, is actually transferring, what is transforming, from what to what?

We know that if we take a length of wire, fold it in half looping it back on itself, then coil, this wire on a former, then there is almost no magnetic field when a voltage is applied. An example of such a coil:


Very little magnetic field is present, but a lot of electric field is present. Because there is almost zero magnetic field, this coiled wire looks like a resistor, it is resistive and not inductive, presenting voltage and current wave forms that are pretty much in phase, as one would expect to see.

An important note: An inductive element with in phase voltage and current is now non-inductive.

Let’s change this situation slightly, let’s say this is our coil of wire now:


We now have a standard, unity wound transformer! An AC voltage is applied to one coil. A load is applied to the other coil, Electromagnetic Induction is equal and opposite, Lenz’s Law, output current is 180 degrees out of phase to the input current. Voltage and Current will move toward an in phase condition as more load is applied and the core saturates.

 

Ampere Turn for Ampere Turn, the typical Unity Wound Transformer is Non Inductive, by definition! Does it sound like we fully understand Electromagnetic Induction? No of course not! In point of fact, its been deliberately confused and corrupted so most can not understand it!

To continue: the reason we only take half the Wave, is simply because we push a Magnetic Field in, and Nature pushes the Magnetic Field out again, Like the Waves on a beach roar up the beach to the shore line, the same volume of water must return back to the ocean again. We do not disturb the Wave coming up on the beach, we use the existing Forces in Nature to provide Force on the way back out again, this is where our Input is Off, disconnected from the Circuit.

This fact, proven experimentally, proves that the Magnetic Field does in-fact change under Load Conditions. This is pointed out above!

If you want to read from this quote: Ruslan Kulabuhov

   Chris 

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Chris posted this 2 weeks ago

My Friends

I can see where some confusion may lay, I wish to be clear and avoid any possible confusion!

All Circuits and Experiments I have talked about are Parallel Connected Coils, there is a difference from Parallel Connected to Series Connected Partnered Output Coils!

Where OT stands for Output Terminal.

 

 

Don Smith talked about the Winding Difference, he was a bit vague:

 

Please remember Don Smith was under all sorts of Financial agreements. I have none!  What Don said is not entirely correct! I have found the differences he talked about are not only Winding Direction but also Winding Connection based differences. Two things you need to know:

  1. Opposing Magnetic Fields produces Current
  2. Changing Magnetic Field produces Voltage

 

One can have Partnered Output Coils with 20% of 1 and 80% of 2 and still gain Energy! However, different Coil configurations are required!

   Chris

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Vidura posted this 2 weeks ago

hello, when i wached the video from the antenna wave propagation which Chris has posted in the thread "finding the resonant frequency of LLcircuit"  i noted that in the sine wave animation from B  and E fields the fase is shown incorrectly, it should be by 90° out of fase, as when voltage is at max. the currant is  zero and viceversa. The same in this image, the fase angle should be 90°  not 180°

If im wrong and there is a faseshifting due to the bucking coil setup please correct me.

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Chris posted this 2 weeks ago

Hi Vidura,

You are correct. In a Resonant Circuit Voltage ( E ) and Current which is typically depicted as the Magnetic ( B ) is normally 90 Degrees out of phase:

 

In LCR Resonant Circuit analysis, at the Zero cross of the Electric, the Magnetic is lagging by 90 Degrees. In power analysis this is Reactive Power, some time called Ping Pong Power, what is sent out comes back, and at a perfect 90 degrees, no power is dissipated.

Now, for power to do real work, Voltage and Current must be in phase. At Zero Degrees. A Voltage applied across a Resistive Element will have a Current through this Element according to Ohms Law. Current will be transformed into Heat by the Resistor, and as a result power is lost or dissipated.

We must now say, that Wave Theory is entirely dependant on Resonance where Voltage and Current are out of phase!

If I told you that this is not necessary, that Voltage and Current can be in phase under certain conditions, then the Wave Diagram would make no sense if I had drawn it 90 Degrees out of phase:

I have in some places made note, and defined E as Current which technically is incorrect as you have pointed out if one puts on the Classical Hat

However, most people draw the EM Wave Propagation this way today, simply because it is easier to visualise.

If I can recommend, do The MrPreva Experiment, and this experiment will show some very cool things, one being that a Resistive Element will exhibit in Phase Voltage and Current even if the Coils are exhibiting Resonance.

   Chris

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