Captainloz's Asymmetrical Re-gauging Experiment

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Captainloz posted this 23 August 2020

Hi Guys,

Sorry I haven't been contributing lately. I think this video is insightful. I'm pretty happy with the way things are progressing. I took Chris's advise and went back to what I was having success with. That was good advise!

I still want to try setting up the L1 coil in series resonance.  Remember series resonance is supposed to give better voltage and parallel resonance gives better current out.  I also need to work on impedance matching.  I love the analogy of impedance matching to a torc converter. I still don't fully understand how to do this yet but that's what I'm currently studying. 

Cheers,

Loz

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Chris posted this 13 September 2020

Hey Loz,

Very simple bench marks, above, will show any errors with equipment. Thank You for sharing Loz! Great work!

I agree with Jagau, learning is fun! Learning is Evolving!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friend,

   Chris

 

 

Jagau posted this 14 September 2020

Hello Loz

I believe the measurement on 0.1 ohm tare resistor is correct.
Do not forget that the oscilloscope measures the voltage only not the amperes, so by the math menu to oscilloscope measures the voltage and converts it in watt. This does not mean that your 0.1 ohm resistance dissipates 17 watts, it is the value of the total power of the circuit.
So your measurement is correct because if we knew each component resistance value (I mean all the wire ends and series component) of your circuit each dissipates power not just your 0.1 ohm resistance.


Your measurement is therefore correct

P.S. This confirms that your circuit gives a little more power than your power supply gives.


Jagau

Captainloz posted this 14 September 2020

Hi Jagau,

I still think it's possible I've damaged my 0.1 ohm resistors. I should have some 50w 1 ohm resistors arriving soon, So I will re-test and post the results. Obviously I hope you are correct but I'm very gun shy to say I have above unity at this point. Time will tell.

Cheers,

Loz

Chris posted this 14 September 2020

Hi Loz,

One Ohm Resistor will not give you accurate scope measurements.

One Ohm will reduce the accuracy of the Current measurement on low currents. It will introduce more Circuit impedance and reduce over all accuracy. 

The 0.1 ohm resistor was carefully chosen for many reasons.

A one ohm resistor, will likely be: Wire Wound, not suitable for our experiments!

 

Loz, you are not following any of my recommendations to solve simple problems?

I feel we have something going on here? Is there something I need to know about? I am getting a feeling of unsettled emotions here.

Is there a problem between us?

Best wishes,

   Chris

Chris posted this 15 September 2020

Hey Guys,

Loz, I am concerned for you old mate. CD is right, its going to take some serious heat to damage the Resistor! You really want to stick with the 0.1 if you can, or at least replace it with the same model with 1% tolerance.

If you do a real simple bench mark, test your equipment, all the fuzzy uncertainty goes away!

Benchmark before Scope Calibration:

 

Test and Benchmark after Scope Calibration:

 

Test and Check your probes with a DC Power Supply. Of course bad equipment needs to be found and resolved. By doing a few simple tests and Benchmarks, you can validate all your equipment in about ten minutes.

Please mate, do this at earliest opportunity and eliminate any equipment uncertainty's! Quick clean and simple! You will be glad you did I promise! Its really satisfying to know you have solid gear!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friend,

   Chris

Captainloz posted this 16 September 2020

Hey Chris,

I did check my equipment before this experiment.  Everything is pretty spot on.  However, I've already swapped my resistors to 1 ohm 50watt. I think Itsu had a good idea on this. They can handle more than enough watts for this experiment. But you are right it's obviously better to use 0,1 ohm resistor.  I'm going to order a some 0.1 ohm 50 watt resistors because I'd rather not have the extra 1 ohm in the circuit. Don't worry my friend we are all good.  I'm just a little disappointed in myself for rushing out results. Maybe I'm trying to be too transparent to my own detriment.   

I have a brand new 100mHz scope and probes. I'm measuring the input and output all in one take. I have the probs and scope set to 10x because of the higher voltage. 

Hopefully now people can be confident I'm measuring things correctly!  Although please tell me if you see something that's wrong!  I will not be offended.  Chris please know I am following your instructions, I honestly wouldn't be this far along without you.  I really think this is the simplest experiment to show asymmetrical regauging.  You can see the sawtooth wave, and it won't work if you disconnect the L3 coil.  

Chris posted this 16 September 2020

Hey Loz,

I am really pleased we don't have a problem! I had a bad feeling is all.

You do awesome work! We all love having you here with us! You are a valuable Member! I love all Members here and will do anything I can for you all!

Right now, you have: COP = 25.9 watts / 11.6 Watts = 2.2327 for an open Core, leaking Flux all over the show, is awesome! Which is the goal! Not achieved, by any other forum!

I know this is possible, and I am very confident you are close, but, please, I ask you, please be very wary with the measurements on those 1 Ohm 50 Watt Resistor. Its Wire Wound for sure. Its really hard to get any conclusive result. As the Voltage goes up on that Resistor, the measured Current will distort more also.

Here is an example:

 

If Itsu is using the same Resistors, to get accurate measurements he also needs to put them away and use better Precision, non wire wound, Resistors.

You bring up good points! I should have explained I was not totally clear, 5 Watts marked on the metal strip resistor is the rated value, but it can handle more.

You have done an awesome job! Cool accent too! hehehe wink

I care a great deal for you all and am very proud to have you all here with us, doing what we are doing! We are making History, all of you!

I try very hard to give accurate information, but if I do get anything wrong, please, everyone let me know so I can correct!

Also, I want to say, very nice Scope Practices, looking really good now!

You are successful but I really want to stress the Wire Wound Resistor is a real problem. If we want others to take us seriously, we really need to loose the Wire Wound and go back to something others can have confidence in! Even if you need to drop your Input down some to do it.

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friend,

   Chris

 

P.S: Sorry, had a few edits.

Vidura posted this 16 September 2020

Hey Loz, Please don't take this the wrong way, Your experiment has potential to be AU. But Chris is totally correct with the wirewound resistor. These components are actually a combination of resistors and coils, which is fine and accurate for DC current only. When dealing with pulsed current or AC, the inductive reactance will add to the readings on the scope, and values will read too high. I will post on the measurement thread some more extensive, also about another issue with shunt resistors, and how to solve this. Regards Vidura.

Captainloz posted this 16 September 2020

Hey Chris and Vidura,

Oh man, I thought I'd had it this time.. Hahaha!  It's all good, the reason I'm here is to learn and hopefully teach others, even if it is from my mistakes. Hahahah! 

Okay I'll swap out the the wire wound resistors and retest. 

Thanks Guys!

Loz

Captainloz posted this 17 September 2020

Hi Chris and Vidura,

Yes there is a big difference between a the wire wound and a small ceramic 1 ohm resistor I have.  Although still showing a little extra out.  I'm sure I can get this better!  

Cheers,

Loz

Chris posted this 17 September 2020

Hey Loz

Thanks for sharing!

You have a lot of very expensive equipment on your bench! More Equipment than most Radio Engineers I know!

A Precision Resistor falls into a very specific category! 

Most Ceramic ( Concrete ) Resistors are also Wire Wound. I replied to your PM with more on this.

Non-Inductive normally means Wire Wound.

You have taken Resistors that could be trusted, out, and put Resistors, that can't be trusted, in.

A Precision Resistor is not Wire Wound. A Precision Resistor is Metal Film, Metal Strip, or similar, a Resistor that has absolute minimum Inductance and Capacitance, very low Tolerance.

 

I have covered this in great detail in this and other threads. Sorta feeling like advice is falling on deaf ears. Sorry mate, my position is one of responsibility to make sure, the right path is being taken, however, we are making mistakes that have already been warned about and could be avoided.

I feel like its making me look like a fool in front of everyone.

Even though this is totally, 100%, warned about in this and other threads.

I put a Mammoth effort in, to help others, to post information, making sure the most accurate information possible is posted and having as much supporting information with it, as possible. We have taken steps to be better than any other forum, with the best, best practices on the entire internet. Taking time to reply to PM's and emails and support everyone the best I can here and abroad. I work extremely hard to make this work, to make sure everyone that comes and reads our information takes us seriously!

No one will take us seriously with known bad, or un-trustworthy Resistors to measure Current!

I really am trying to ask nicely! Please follow the Best Practices, we, Members here, have already laid out.

I will not allow this forum to become a laughing stock, due to others not following recommendations and Best Practices, already laid out.

I hope you understand where I am coming from?

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friend

   Chris

Captainloz posted this 17 September 2020

Hey Chris,

Yes, the one thing I learnt very early on is to have good equipment to see what's going on. Although it can get expensive when you make a mistake....

I get it my friend, unfortunately I missed your advise on this (in this thread). i had been more concerned in making sure my meters were all calibrated and didn't take the time to think about the circuit. For that I'm sorry i mean no disrespect. I don't mean to take up all your time.

If people are laughing at me then that's on them.  I'm have been very transparent on everything I've done and have not tried to misled anyone.  These are honest mistakes and this forum has been quick to point them out. There is a lot that goes into this stuff and sometimes I just forget things I've learnt a long time ago.  

I'm not sure how I'm making you look like a fool? If anything I've made myself look like one.  

Anyway, I know I'm very close to showing an above unity machine.  And that has always been my goal here. 

Cheers,

Loz

 

Chris posted this 17 September 2020

Hey Loz,

No one here, will ever laugh at you! I promise! All Members here are very Respectful and Honest, would only ever help when they see a problem! You have no problem there, I promise! We love having you here with us!

That advice from others, not members here, if I may ask, please verify that advice before putting that into practice? You have received bad advice, from others, not Members of this Forum!

That's where this trouble has come from! If you can read in between the lines a little there?

On another note, if you want Precision, here is a beauty: 

TDH50HR100FE RES
0R1
1%
50W
TO-263
THICK FILM

Minimum Inductance, minimum Capacitance, low Tolerance, a real nice unit!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friend

   Chris

Captainloz posted this 17 September 2020

Hi Chris, 

I do appreciate your support, and understand what you are saying.

I do have people contacting me from other forums. And from around the world, it does take up time I don't have. I don't know how you do it... I am only committed to this forum. I'm continually driving people to join us here to find what they're looking for. 

No I don't have anything new to share right now. However I am sharing all my latest work. I'm trying to make it as easy as possible for anyone to replicate.  I think if we make something that is easy to replicate it will spread very quickly. 

We need to keep it simple.  My goal with this experiment is to show bucking coils / asymmetrical re-gauging in the simplest way possible. I took this idea from one of your videos.

You have given us all the information we need, it's all here! I've just got to stop making silly mistakes and put it out there in way it can not be disputed. 

Cheers,

Loz

Chris posted this 17 September 2020

Hey Loz,

The absolute, most simple place to start is the Circuit and Layout I gave, that you follow:

 

Action, Reaction and Counter-Reaction

 

Trust me when I say, there is no simpler way! I have spent many years on this, many years! I have given everyone, everything, you take the path that many others don't!

Don't allow their lazy to become your burden!

The ones that have not gotten themselves banned for bad behaviour, have the opportunity to join us, they do not take the opportunity!

We have no obligation to those that wont help themselves!

I have given the Cheapest, most simple Energy Machine that History has ever seen! No one before me has given such a simple Machine that shows Concept! This is just the start!

Remember, you are at the beginning. Much more ahead, many tips and tricks gained over time.

All information I have shared, has been shared in the Public Domain, since 2011 in a slow release format. Giving every single Human Being on the Planet access to the Technology!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friend

   Chris

Captainloz posted this 19 September 2020

Hi Cd,

I appreciate your opinion. I've gone back to the 0.1ohm resistors. I'm now using brand new ones just encase I damaged the last ones I had.  By the way, I love the quote by Steven Mark you have on your posts, so true!  There are so many different ways to make them interact with each other.  Just finding the best way is the trick. Hahaha!

Hi Guys

In this quick video I've moved the air capacitor to the L2 coil, it gives a very nice rise in energy.  Now, because the capacitor is in series with the L2 coil I understand there are possible phase angle inefficiencies that could show a slight measurement error.  However I believe the scope is taking that into consideration. I think I'm showing enough AU to allow for any errors caused by Air Capacitor Parasitic Capacitance.  Take a look and see what you think. 

I'm going to move on from this now because there are other things I want to try to make it even more efficient.

Cheers, 

Loz

 

 

Chris posted this 19 September 2020

My Friends,

I want to thank Loz for all his excellent efforts! It is great to see such wonderful progress! I am so pleased we have good, very low inductance, very low capacitance, low tolerance, Current Viewing Resistors back in place! Thank You! Remember, we work for the Future, for our Children and their Children! The Unborn! For Humanity!

I ask everyone to put their support behind Loz! This video is very good! Even though we admit there are still problems here, we still have a very large margin of error.

  • Yellow Trace: Current ( 10A / Div ) 7A x 0.707 = 4.949A Not sine, but an approximation.
  • Teal Trace: Voltage ( 20V / Div ) 70V x 0.707 = 49.49V Not sine, but an approximation.
  • Input: 17.106 + 2.405 = 19.511 Watts
  • Output: 37.1 Watts
  • COP: 37.1 / 19.511 = 1.9015

 

NOTE: The similarity to measurements in Video 5. In the first post.

The Scope Bandwidth is 100MHz so less than 1MHZ is well within the Bandwidth! A Brand New Scope freshly Calibrated.

The Input to the Switching Unit really should not be included in the Input as this could be made very much more efficient! So please understand, the 2.405 Watts is currently included on the Input and should not be!

Lets work out the margin of error:

  • Conventional Transformer efficiency: 85%
  • Current efficiency: 190%

 

So, 190 - 85 = 105% margin. Now if we lost 50% to Stray Capacitance and Stray Inductive losses, and various other losses, we are still 55% over the average Transformer Efficiency! That is: 19.511 Watts x 0.55 = 10.73105 Watts over and above the Input, this means we have: 19.511 Watts + 10.73105 Watts = 30.24205 Watts, with a 50% Error. These numbers should be enough for any Logical mind to warrant more investigation.

Everyone that wants to replicate this and contribute to the effort here, some other things that can be done to make the margin smaller:

  • Shorten all cables, keep all cables as short as possible.
  • Remove all unnecessary Circuit Impedances: The Input, the 1 Ohm Resistor and other things.
  • Test with and without the Air Capacitor for Measurement differences.
  • At this frequency, look at better possible Current Viewing Resistors: Metal Film or something.
  • Test Temperature of Current Viewing Resistors to make sure they are within the range of accuracy.
  • Look at the application of Ultra Fast Diodes.
  • Look at trying to smooth the Scope Traces some, perhaps Rectify for DC Output and measure.

 

Please understand, this is early days, many improvements can be made! Tuning and fine tuning is still a path to make improvements on the COP.

Remember: As I said above, Loz is measuring only One Output Coil ( L3 ), the very same quantity of Power is also Flowing in the other Output Coil ( L2 ) which is still unmeasured and therefore unaccounted for.

Others will try to dismiss this effort, but I am telling you, Loz is 100% on the right path, please don't forget history and what we have seen throughout history: Floyd Sweet, Don Smith, The MEG Team, Akula, Ruslan, Tinman and many others! I promise you, this is the path forward! Even if we find some sort of measurement error here, this is still the path forward! Please go and verify this on Tinman's RTV3 Thread.

I would love to see others joining in and sharing if they can? I know many have another circuit they are working on right now, so maybe in a week or so?

NOTE: At this stage, practicing and improving Scope Best Practices, Measurements and testing equipment is something I recommend, this will help in the Path Forward! I do not recommend looking at Measurements when one is starting, simply because it is discouraging and side tracks Experiment.

Loz, Thank You for sharing! We all very much appreciate all your excellent effort here!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friend

   Chris

Chris posted this 19 September 2020

My Friends

Very quickly, I want to point out:

 

The Resistance of this globe at 12 Volts and 7.5 Watts, is 19.2 Ohms approximately.

If the Voltage across this Globe was 24 Volts, that means, according to Ohms Law, the Globe is consuming the Power of: P = V2 / R = 24 Volts2 / 19.2 Ohms = 30 Watts.

Please be careful not to dismiss this because of the type of Load! A foolish person, supposed to be an expert in Electrical Engineering, has argued with me on this without doing any figures to support the serious malfunction he was having. It so disappoints me, we have so many professionals that are truly stupid!

Could more than 30 Watts really be consumed in that Load - Absolutely Yes!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friends

   Chris

Atti posted this 20 September 2020

Hey Loz.

I may see it wrong. But it seems more like a series resonance to me. If it is only connected in place of the diode and there is no other change.
Nothing changes from this comment. This is just a comment.

 

@Captainloz.

If you want try this.

In this way, do not open any type of doubts regarding
to the power at the load, since the capacitor will store
all the energies that circulate through your secondary.

I hope it helps.YoElMiCrO.

I have not made measurement here. This is not relevant now. But watch the capacitor insert. Maybe it should be considered.

Atti.

YoElMiCrO posted this 20 September 2020

Hi all.

@Captainloz.

I have the circuit finished, but I have not tested it.
Today is late, tomorrow without fail I will try it.
I'll let you know everything I find about it.
I also want to analyze your video and compare it to
my results.

Thanks in advance.

YoElMiCrO.

Chris posted this 20 September 2020

Hi Atti,

I do not ever want to mislead anyone!

This means, we must be equally:

 

You must understand, a Capacitor is a Short Circuit when the Voltage is Zero. At short Circuit Conditions, the maximum Current Flows.

Maxwell's Displacement Current:

 

Amperes Law:

 

The logic behind the Theory is, Current must Flow Through a Capacitor.

To be Scientific, we must, by definition, be: agnostic and devout at the same time, not being one or the other! We must investigate the effects properly.

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friend

   Chris

Captainloz posted this 23 September 2020

Hi Atti,

Yes it is series resonance, I did make the edit to that post. Thanks for pointing that out!

Hi YoElMiCrO.

Thanks for the video I need to study some more.  I'm not following well.  

Really busy with work at the moment. The only thing I've done is to try different winding arrangements.  It completely changes things so much more to try!

Hi Chris,

I really appreciate your posts.

Cheers,

Loz

 

 

Chris posted this 26 September 2020

My Friends,

I was really hoping to see more here replicate Loz's work and sharing their results.

I know many are busy with Jagau's Circuit. This is really simple however, and also really important. Please don't pass this over guys and gals. Its much more important than many may realise!

Many here have replicated this work, as many already know, its very easy! It is very easy to make improvements, to make this more useful! The Input Coil, the Input Circuit, and the Output can all be improved!

Remember:

  1. The Input Coil can be made much more efficient.
  2. L2 carried Power of X
  3. L3 also carries the same Power of X

 

We can make this very much better than we have seen in some cases. We have: Asymmetrical Electromagnetic Induction


Meaning, we have: Action, Reaction and a Counter-Reaction all occurring, via Electromagnetic Induction, in one machine at once!

   1: Action = Primary Coil Current changing in Time: di/dt
   2: Reaction = Secondary Coil Opposing the Primary, Current changing in Time: di/dt
   3: Counter-Reaction = Tertiary Coil Opposing the Secondary, Current changing in Time: di/dt


Each "Current changing in Time: di/dt" is a Magnetic Field as we all already know!

Each time we see: di/dt we have the opportunity for Electromagnetic Induction to Occur, and it can be in more than one direction at a time! The propagation of Magnetic Fields can a occur in more than one direction at a single point in Time.

Some of you, here, are very advanced! I know already many have very advanced machines. Everyone wishing to learn more, this is your opportunity!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friends

   Chris

Chris posted this 27 September 2020

My Friends,

FYI: Captainloz Video 9 (showing COP = 2) replication

Currently, they are not even close! They just don't have the understanding you all have here! I have said before: One needs a Background Understanding to make this work! As you all here have got, and as a result, you can make this work!

I wish they would listen to us!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friends

   Chris

Chris posted this 01 October 2020

My Friends,

I hope this helps some:

 

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friends

   Chris

Chris posted this 02 October 2020

My Friends,

I really want to sound like a broken Record! Sorry, this needs attention!

CaptainLoz's basic Circuit:

 

Applying some simple Math to the Loads, where Resistors in Parallel are:

1/RT = 1/R1 + 1/R2 + 1/R3 = 1/70 + 1/70 + 1/19.2 = 1/0.08065476190476190476190476190476 = 12.398523985239852398523985239852, and using basic Ohms Law: P = V2 / R = 252 / 12.398523985239852398523985239852 = 50.40923 Watts.

 

1/RT = 1/R1 + 1/R2 = 1/70 + 1/70 = 1/0.02857142857142857142857142857143 = 35, and using basic Ohms Law: P = V2 / R = 252 / 35 = 17.85714 Watts.

 

You will see, it is the same basic Circuit as mine, as Loz pointed out:

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friends

   Chris

YoElMiCrO posted this 03 October 2020

Hi everyone.

Whenever time allows me
I test with this Loz configuration
which is the same one that Chris has shared.
I have realized that this technology is connected
directly with the propagation time of the magnetic field
within the core, so delayed conduction is important.
This end I continue with the experiments to better understand
its operation, as the variables on which it depends.

@Chris.

Definitely the magnetic field has inertia, your circuit
It proves it, I hadn't done any tests yet.
When i understand even partial of the variables that depend
I'll let you know.

Thank you all in advance.

YoElMiCrO.

Chris posted this 04 October 2020

My Friends,

I wish I had more patience with some people, but those that think they know everything, and try to correct others, when they simply do not know, frustrates me, to no end!

Can you believe this post here:

Itsu and AC,

I think I was wrong when I said Chris was using a full bridge circuit to drive the primary.  He appears to be using a high side switch only at least based on his own posting on his forum.  The info below is taken from-

http://www.aboveunity.com/thread/the-input-coil/?order=all#comment-3d85527c-c560-48b5-a0af-ac44014c1e7c

If the pix below is what he is using to switch the primary, there is no path for the collapsing current to reach the power supply.  What there is however, is a path for the avalanche current of the P-channel mosfet to draw current from the power supply!  IOW, what he thinks is returned current is actually additional current draw from the supply.  This is his circuit gain for OU IMO!

To confirm this, I need to study his schematic which he supplies on his forum somewhere but all I see on the driver pcb that CaptainLoz is using in video #9 is one, large case semiconductor.

This would explain why he states that when a load is presented on the POC, the returned current increases.

If this is how he and all his followers drive the primary of his POCs, there is no OU!

The second pix shows the scope waveforms from his schematic.

Regards,
Pm

Ref: Captainloz Video 9 (showing COP = 2) replication

 

 

Completely Wrong

Now, I am sorry, but Partzman has everything completely wrong! I cant believe how wrong he has it! I mean really? WTF!!!

This bit here, it is truly words of a blind man:

This would explain why he states that when a load is presented on the POC, the returned current increases.

 

No wonder they are SO FAR BEHIND! They have no idea what so ever! More than 40 years in the game and this is where he is at, oh my! I mean, he cant tell the difference between a N Channel and a P Channel Semi:

avalanche current of the P-channel mosfet to draw current from the power supply!

 

It is more than obvious, WE USE N CHANNEL MOSFETS!

 

Let me give you all a very small reminder of what happens when this is right:

 

Partzman goes on to admit his mistake:

All,

Since CaptLoz is not responding to Itsu, I will propose the input scheme I believe Chris is using for his device.  I had stated earlier that there is no way for a single mosfet circuit to return energy to the power supply but that is not correct and I know better from past experience so, I'm blaming my 79 years young as the problem! 

Anyway, I've attached a schematic and scope pix of the input circuit and will explain how it works.  Ch1(yel) is the input pulse to the mosfet, CH2(blu) is the power supply voltage, CH3(pnk) is the output voltage across the drain, CH4(grn) is the current in L1, and Math(red) is the input power.

Initially, L1 is connected between + and ground via M1 and current begins to ramp up linearly.  At a given point in time M1 is turned off and the current in L1 starts to fall as the voltage across L1 attempts to reverse.  This action can not happen instantaneously however due to the capacitance that appears at the mosfet drain or Coss plus the parasitic capacitance of L1.  So, this total capacitance will begin to charge and we will see a half sine wave at the output of the drain as long as the mosfet is not going into avalanche.  When the voltage across the capacitance has reached a peak, the energy it contains will nearly equal the energy stored in L1 and the current in L1 will be zero.

Now, the charged capacitance will use L1 for the discharge path back to the + power source and will discharge back to zero volts and the current in L1 will now be negative and nearly equal to the positive peak current reached during the charging phase.  This is when the energy stored in C1 returns to the power supply as seen by the negative current and power on the scope traces.  Notice the relatively low net average input power of 43.7mw when the average input power for just the positive half of the cycle is 747.7mw in the 2nd scope pix.

I personally did not use this type of input circuit when testing my variations of the POC device but will give it another try to see if there is any possible OU.

Regards,
Pm

Ref: Captainloz Video 9 (showing COP = 2) replication

 

 

Now, it would be nice to see: "Sorry everyone, Chris was right, and I did not pay enough attention".

 

Partzman, still does not have the full answer! He still misses the most important solution!

What is L1, your Input Coil, exposed to when it is Switched Off? Yes, that's right, Electromagnetic Induction via L2. Why are so many Experts so terrible when new things, they have not read in a book, been presented? WHY?

When others, use total non-sense, to try to explain, what they have no clue about, the Science community is in absolute turmoil!

Here is another post of absolute non-sense:

Chuckle~! C.C  Yes, this is what I meant.  The reason the output increases when that secondary is opened is that the leakage inductance created by the shorted secondary is gone.

If Chris is correct about the polarity connections on his POC circuit, consider the fact that the flux present in the core or air, can only change in magnitude over time due to di/dt but at no time is any additional flux or H field added to the circuit to provide a gain.  Now if the secondaries only conduct during the "off" time of the primary, [IOW reverse the diode connections] there may be some magic in the collapsing primary driving the connected secondaries through the leakage inductances.  This so called "leakage inductance" can store energy which few are aware off!

I know you are intent on replicating CaptainLoz's circuit and if he is still claiming OU at this point in time, it may be worth it.  For my 2cents, I don't think he has OU.

Regards,
Pm

Ref: Captainloz Video 9 (showing COP = 2) replication

 

Completely Wrong

What did Don Smith tell us:

 

On the Magnetic side, you can make as many copies of it as you like

 

Making this claim: "but at no time is any additional flux or H field added to the circuit to provide a gain" exposes the total non-sense some people are exposed to, and push on others without having any factual evidence what so ever! What is clear, is Partzman is in total ignorance of Energy in the Magnetic Field and how Actions and Interactions occur in the Time Domain in Magnetics!

Assuming Electromagnetic Induction only occurs in One Direction is not only Foolish, it is outright Wrong!

It is clear, and presently obvious, to any logical mind: Greater than 90% of the Flux in the System is not anything to do with the Input Power, thus the Gain in Energy! Try explaining this to an Educated person! Good luck with that!

They currently, have 3 pages of nothing and it grows faster and faster, if they cant understand simple Science, and do not believe, why keep trying? Why do they persist? Is it because they know that its real, that they just do not understand it? How many independent replications, do they need?

What is clearly obvious, is Some People can not be helped! That is for absolute Sure!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friends,

   Chris

 

 

P.S: I don't blame you at all for not responding to their questions Loz! Not at all! OMG!

 

AlteredUnity posted this 31 October 2020

I made a similar setup. Blue is input current from L1 over 1ohm resistor connected to collector, yellow is current on POC2. I can draw circuit if needed. Is this what I should be seeing? 

Blue current over 1ohm on input, yellow is poc3 over 1ohm

 

 

Little further back so you can see the work being done giving sawtooth waveform on POC

May have switching issues on second pic. Sorry for all the edits, phone issues. Haven't tried diff mosfet or transistor yet. 

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Hey AlteredUnity,

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@CaptainLoz - Are you still with us My Friend? Not heard from you for a little while. Hope all is ok!

 

Best wishes,

   Chris

Captainloz posted this 03 November 2020

Hi Chris,

I've been taking a break on this one. For me this experiment was successful. As you said this principal and effect can be easily produced without a huge investment.  I encourage people to build and experiment. We can't do it for them    

I'm currently working on the Maxim Aliyev device that I purchased from Ukraine awhile ago. Now I have a better understanding I'm taking another look, building the coils from scratch.  I don't have anything great to share yet but hopefully soon! 

I saw a lot of rubbish about you and I over at overunity.com   People saying that we are the same person... it's just dumb.. And other stuff that just makes me wonder if they want to build stuff or just pull people down.  You know me I've been very transparent. There just seems to be a lot of haters. And I'm not going to take orders from people too lazy to do the work themselves. 

Anyway mate I hope you're staying healthy and doing well.  You've built a great forum here, it's really helped me a lot!

Cheers,

Loz

Chris posted this 03 November 2020

Hey Loz

My Friend, I could not agree more! Lots of haters out there! Lots of people that are not out to help themselves, or others, only to Toll Others, that's why I Ban Trolls! I will never let this forum become over Run with Trolls like other Forums are!

Partnered Output Coils can easily be scaled up and as one scales, the Output goes up as a function of the Scale. 

Stay well and stay safe my Friend! Cant wait to see what you have when you get a minute!

I am happy you are still with us Loz, you're a good man! Ignore those Haters over at ou.com!

Best wishes,

   Chris

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Chris posted this 04 November 2020

My Friends,

It is interesting, how the Haters respond: Captainloz Video 9 (showing COP = 2) replication

It is very interesting reading the posts, especially from the well known Trolls! It is interesting what lines of Text they, put in, and leave out, on purpose! They are very selective on what they write and how they post it, and its just laughable! They are so see through its not funny!

They come, they read our pages, they desperately look for guidance, they post non-sense:

From Itsu, of all people:

To me it is unbelievable that someone who is searching for Free energy can sit on a "Nobel prize worthy" device which produces twice the output compared to the input, "takes a break on this one" and goes working on another Free Energy device.

 

What Itsu does not realise, is how easy this is for us! He is still struggling with the basics of Electromagnetic Induction!

On another note, Tinman has resurfaced and replied:

Hiya AC

Are you sure this is true in all cases ?.
Can i throw a little puzzle your way. Let's call it TinMan's conundrum
Lets see if you or anyone here can answer it without building the circuit and trying it.

First up,lets talk LEDs.
We have say a standard 10mm white LED,and this LED conducts fully at 3 volts.
Now,we know when we have a 3 volt potential across the LED of the correct polarity a current must flow,and the current flow is in the direction indicated by the diode arrow of the LED.

So we first look at diagram 1 (V1).
This is pretty straight forward .
During the on time,current flows through D1,L1,and R1 as indicated by the blue arrow.
When the source is switched off L1 then becomes the source,and current flows through R1 in the direction indicated by the red arrow,and through L1 in the same direction as it was when the FG was the source.

Now we look at diagram 2 (V2)
We have the same coil,wound in the same direction,but we have tapped into the center of the windings,and added two LEDs between the windings.
When the FG is on,we once again see the current flow through D1,L1,R1,and now LED2.
LED2 see's a potential of 3 volts across it,and it starts to conduct,and current flows through L1 as in the first test.
But what happens this time when the FG switches off,and the magnetic field starts to collapse ?.
As you state,we see a reversal of voltage across the coil.
We now see in excess of the needed 3 volts across LED1,of the right polarity for the LED to conduct-->but the current flow is in the wrong direction !apparently! for that LED to work ???
So we have the correct potential now the FG has switched off,and the voltage across L1 has inverted,and enough voltage for LED1 to light,but the diode part of LED1 will not allow current to flow in that direction,as the current is suppose to continue to flow in the same direction once the source is disconnected-->right ;D

So,will Led1 light up when the source(FG) is disconnected,and the field starts to collapse?
Or will the current continue to flow in the same direction through LED2 when the field collapses ?.


Brad

 

 

Tinman is a Member here on this Forum, but has not posted here. Brad does visit us and read our forum on a regular basis. He and I have resolved our past issues and as far as I am concerned, we are now friends again.

Tinman will soon get tired of trying to teach those brainless people simple things and maybe in time, he may post here, once he realises they are lost in the Darkness!

Stefan from OU.com recently asked me for a list of Trolls on his forum. I have not yet replied, however, I think it is not my place to name others and it is something he should make his own decision on. Stefan is trying to Clean up his Forum!

I have such a giggle at these so called experts, the geniuses, or at least self proclaimed geniuses, have no idea what so ever on the most simple things we have not only covered but have Mastered in great detail!

I wrote:

 

We have already Banned some of the Trolls here! They will never get away with this sort of behaviour here! They have been dumped on their Ear, they just don't like the fact that we are so far ahead and that we will not tolerate their bad behaviour here!

We will Ban Them if they try to sign up an account here!

They have lost control! We now have all of the Control! We have beaten them and shown publically what they are really about! They will have their names written in Stone, problem is it will be for the wrong reasons and will be known thorough out history as Trolls!

The Facts:

For me this experiment was successful. As you said this principal and effect can be easily produced without a huge investment.  I encourage people to build and experiment. We can't do it for them

 

CaptainLoz is right, why cant they do it for themselves? They are Lost in the Darkness!

 

If only, they weren't so lost, they could have seen wonderous things like we have! They have no idea what so ever how far advanced we are! This is why we have the power over them now! We lead the world in Energy technology, they lead in, well I cant give you anything here, because they just don't have anything!

Hahahaha! Let them carry on with their Clownathon!

Best wishes,

   Chris

Chris posted this 07 November 2020

My Friends,

I dont understand why Itsu cant achieve a simple Waveform! See what's going on with Itsu's experiment:

 

NOTE: Itsu states several things in the video that is just outright WRONG! On the verge of Misleading! E.G: Loz did NOT use 60 Volts, max was in the order of 30!

All Itsu has done, is build a very in-efficient Transformer!

He is using a 1Ohm Current Sensing Resistor! WHY? That's a lot of unwanted Circuit Impedance!

He does not appear to have followed the very basic advice we have given, his waveform is not right and basically his replication is falling over on every aspect we have shared!

What a shame!

 

Tinman, Loz, Jagau, Vidura, YoElMiCrO and many others here will see Itsu's work as another Failed attempt, and then Question as to WHY Itsu keeps failing the most basic things!

Itsu and I have had issues before, where he does not listen and follow basic important rules. Has he done the same this time around? Is it again a deliberate act, not listening? Not following the basic Rules laid out! It would seem so...

I grow tired of trying to help others when they will not help themselves, I have been doing this for a long time now. 2015 I started at ou.com, many years before that, on my own at hyiq.org, and truth is, nearly all Members here, have something, all at different stages, but very few want to share and show others and I can not blame them, this world we live in, is just wrought with Corruption and Greed! A dangerous world to live in! No one wants to poke their head out for fear of what might happen!

I do NOT Trust the Members, broadly, over at over unity research. Never have, never will.

   Chris

Jagau posted this 08 November 2020

Hi Chris
It is normal that they do not have the same waveform as Loz, the output L2 and L3 are not connected like the circuit of loz. L2 and L3 should be completely separate,

in its connection we see res although it has inverted in their connection

Schematic of Loz

Jagau

Chris posted this 09 November 2020

Hey Jagau,

My Friend, yes, you are right! The Waveform is different and it is a Tell Tail Sign, Itsu has it wrong.

Here is an indication, CaptainLoz's Waveform:

 

And, here is Itsu's Waveform:

 

Itsu shows no Energy "Generation" Waveform Characteristics at all! None, It is an indication he has it all wrong.

All here who have read my Pages, know immediately what Itsu is missing, which Loz has consistently shown all along! I am not going to repeat it again here for the millionth time!

With good research, and attention skills, every single Human Being on the planet can see where Itsu is going wrong, can Itsu? Can Itsu's friends point out where Itsu is going wrong? Do they want to point out where Itsu is going wrong? I think not! I may be wrong however?

Best wishes,

   Chris

 

P.S: I hope Itsu is able to achieve Success! I wish him Luck! My Faith is currently some what eroded and perhaps a little lower than normal, my bad!

 

Chris posted this 09 November 2020

@Itsu,

Focus specifically, specifically, the Actions and Reactions between your two Output Coils! Partnered Output Coils. For when you get these Output Coil Interactions right, this is when you get Energy "Generation" in the Machine!

Best wishes,

   Chris

 

Chris posted this 09 November 2020

My Friends,

I post Itsu's response here:

Ref: Itsu's Response

 

Can anyone here tell me what Itsu has wrong? Why his Waveform is Wrong? What he is missing?

Do you see now why some days I get totally frustrated? If Itsu "closely matched Captainloz" don't you think Itsu's result would match Captainloz's Output result a little bit closer? I mean 0.7 to 1.9 is after all a long ways off! Others cant Learn when they know everything already! Can they? I don't know everything! I am still learning, even though I have learnt a lot already!

@CaptainLoz, My Friend, would you like to give Itsu a pointer here on your thread? No obligation My Friend. wink

Best Wishes,

   Chris

 

P.S: I did give a hint, in the Scope's Waveform I posted from Loz. All here know what I am talking about!

 

thosewhocandothosewhocantteach posted this 11 November 2020

No diode should be removed or replaced, it's the main part of the POC principle.

@jagau

Shouldn't the dot of L2 be on the right side, as compared to the layout image of Chris? I find the dot-convention confusing.

Chris posted this 11 November 2020

Hello Jcil.nl,

Yes, you are correct! This is important, at least in the early stages! As one is learning!

The "Generation" of Electrical Energy is very Specific! The Sawtooth Waveform is the Defining Waveform for Energy "Generation"! This was shown above in the Image I posted of CaptainLoz's Experiments and is seen all the way through CaptainLoz's Experiments! 

Itsu does not have any sign of Linear Slope ( Sawtooth Waveform ), meaning he has no Polarity of Fields right because he is missing the Diode to set the polarity! Energy is Pumped from the Source, the Linear Slope is then visible, as CaptainLoz has shown. The Atom, Electrons come from the Outer Orbitals of the Atom, One Ampere is 6.24 x 1018 Electrons / Second, and Itsu just does not have any sign what so ever of this very simple, critical, requirement.

Once this is achieved, this Linear Slope, it must then be Capitalised on and Maximized upon! The least Input, for the Most Output!

I hope Itsu can learn from this and progress forward with this information!

My Friends, you are all completely awesome and I have the greatest respect for you all! Success comes from our Soul, and if we all share our successes, then we grow in ways we have never done so before! We are destined to Evolve in ways that we cant yet imagine, but hey, It feels good to help others out, why shouldn't we help others out! We are all literally made of Star Dust!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

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My Friends,

It appears Itsu is resisting Commonsense across the board on this. I wish he would take our advice, that is, if he really wants to make progress?

One must always Start at the Start! This is important and I have said this from Day One!

Itsu's response:

Ref: Captainloz Video 9 (showing COP = 2) replication

 

CaptainLoz said, in Video 9:

 

I think, any serious Researchers really need to take, and then implement, the Advice given, as all Successful Replicators here, have in the past, and to come in the Future!

Truth is, I have no intention of wasting anyone's time, for this reason, I am blunt and to the point! If others wish to give everyone around them the runaround, then this needs to be viewed for what it really is!

A Sensible Researcher, would follow the advice given and then decide what to do with the results. Loz Shared His results for all of you to see, now Loz is tired of all the negative attention he received! I don't blame him and I wish with all my heart others would Grow and Evolve instead of being Foolish and Petty! I have no control over this and it is a case of Hoping others will see those people for what they are!

Like the good Captain said: There are a lot of Haters out there!

Itsu's capitalised letters indicate, somewhat, frustration, sadly. But if he chooses to replicate what we share, then his effort must match that of what we have already achieved, or no replication can be claimed! It would be misleading to show and share anything else!

I appeal to Itsu: Please follow our advice, as CaptainLoz has, and make sure the Polarity is right, then, once this is done, a better result will be seen.

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Captainloz posted this 12 November 2020

Hi Guys,

Sorry, I haven't been following along. I'm just really busy at the moment with work. I'm finding it hard to make time for any experiments.

Honestly I'd have to look back at my own videos at this point to see exactly what I was doing.  But Chris is correct I had everything working with the diodes in place first. I don't remember how much OU it was with just the diodes.  However once I put the air cap in place of one of the diodes it was an improvement.  That's in the last video I posted on this experiment, video 9.

My advise is to make sure you see the sawtooth wave at a lower duty cycle.  You have to see that before doing anything else. The length of the wire sets the frequency. The only adjustments I was making was the, duty cycle, voltage, and capacitance. 

Itsu, yes I did remove the diode on L2 in Video 9 (The diode on the load side supporting the lights).

Jagau, I don't think I have the dot convention right on my little drawing.  I still get confused by the dot convention! Haha!

Hope that helps!

Chris thanks for keeping this thread going!

Cheers,

Loz

 

Chris posted this 13 November 2020

My Friends,

It is very much EASIER to show a Failed Experiment than a SUCCESSFUL one! Especially when one wants to! 

Itsu's reply:

Ref: Itsu's Reply

 

I wish I could say, I find this response positive and constructive, with a definite direction Forward, alas, I can not.

  • Why cant he just stick to the advice given?
  • Why cant he just replicate what we have shared?
  • Why is he so Extremely Reluctant to avoid to the Replication we have shared? WHY?

 

It is obvious his Replication is a Failure! It is obvious he does not, at all cost, make steps in the Right Direction, even when Loz said:

But Chris is correct I had everything working with the diodes in place first.

 

This is why I post updates here of progress and STATE THE OBVIOUS!

  • Itsu has not followed Advice!
  • Itsu's replication attempt is not inline with Our Work!
  • Itsu is not qualified to make any sort of judgement or conclusion on Our Work based on the above facts given!

 

What we have shared, it truly is about as SIMPLE as it Gets! If one can not Successfully Replicate this Simple Circuit, then nothing can ever be Replicated Successfully! There is no Circuit more Simple than the Circuit we have Shared!

I urge all Members and Readers to look at the Long List of Successful Experiments, Others, Here, have shared, then make, Educated, Logical, Honest, Judgement.

If one person says it cant be done, but 30 people tell you it can, who should you put your faith in? The positive weighted average speaks for itself, in Favor! It is obvious the One Person has dire problems with their Replication! All logical minds must come to the same conclusion!

I really hope others can see a pattern here! It saddens me, that we have to deal with such Problems and can not just move forward with more and more Successes!

Once we have a basic Understanding, even Square Wheels can be made to work:

 

Without this very Important Understanding, Square Wheels are just Impractical!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Captainloz posted this 14 November 2020

Hi Chris,

I will say I'm happy to see others trying to replicate the coils on the ferrite toroids like I've done.  I really hope someone else can show the same results as me.  All the information is in this thread. I haven't held back anything. Nothing is hidden, it's all here! 

Honestly if people do exactly what I've shown they should get the same results.  It's the very basic circuit you put up for us. The credit really goes to you Chris! 

I don't know why Itsu is having difficulty, I know he is a smart guy. I remember following all his Ruslan experiments with great interest. I really hope he succeeds. Although I haven't seen any of his scope shots that are close to what I was showing. 

To all the people that say I'm measuring incorrectly.  I will not accept that until I see someone else show the same scope shots and then explain to me how it's a measurement error..

One thing that could be making a difference is the type of ferrite I'm using. I tried to find the receipt and looked back through my Ebay purchase but I can't find anything about the toroids I'm using.  I remember they were cheep, thats it.  There are no numbers on them, or identifying marks.

Anyway my friend thanks for keeping this thread alive!  I wish I was back in Australia right now this Covid thing is getting really messed up over here.

Cheers,

Loz

 

 

 

 

Chris posted this 14 November 2020

Hey Loz,

My Friend, I fully support you!

Your measurements are good! No one can make claim of Measurement Error - That's simply not true! Period!

Only TROLLS would make this claim!

We have seen this already! From the TROLLS! The Haters!

I agree, I want to see more people replicate what we have shared! BUT, I want to see others do it properly! Not introduce Silly and then make wild in-accurate claims about the performance! I want to see this done with some professionalism! If others cant do it properly, then I would rather see them NOT do it at all!

What you very kindly shared with everyone, is one of the most credible Machines ever introduced to Humanity! No Secrets, No Black Boxes! Just a few Wires, few diodes and the Right Frequency! You are a Hero My Friend!

My Friend, I am sending my Best wishes for you and Family in these Times! Its horrible what this world has come to! It was said as soon as Slow Biden got the job, he would put Lockdowns back in place! Thats exactly whats occurred! I just don't think its right! Its Criminal!

We are with you My Friend!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Chris posted this 14 November 2020

My Friends,

I ask you, please learn this, what we have shared! This thread and in the Thread: Chris's Non-Inductive Coil Experiment.

Soon, a new Geometry will be coming, and if you have not learnt this, and learnt this current technology properly, the next step will be difficult to grasp! This is really important before we move on to the next step!

Stick with the two output Diodes, at least until you have an understanding of how this technology works! Learn from others Mistakes!

The next step, the coming Geometry, will not be understood if you don't understand this first!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

thosewhocandothosewhocantteach posted this 15 November 2020

A new Geometry will be coming?

Chris posted this 16 November 2020

My Friends,

It appears, Itsu's Captainloz Video 9 (showing COP = 2) replication has:

  1. Failed and he has decided to go no further
  2. Succeeded and he does not wish to publish any more results

 

You will notice a bunch of things on that forum:

  1. Little to no comments helping Itsu along.
  2. Very little to no posting on how it might work on other threads.
  3. So called experts go NO WHERE near this topic!
  4. Zero postings on Energy, E.M.F, M.M.F and how an Electromagnetic "Generator" is linked to this Machine!
  5. And the list goes on...

 

The term Lost in the Dark comes to mind:

 

Think why Itsu has been left, almost entirely by himself to work on this. Why have those members that have searched all their life, not tried to further this and help Itsu along? More than 400 Years of Combined Knowledge and Itsu is left by himself to do this.

Don't forget, we have a massive Track Record, from Tinman, to all the Members here including Loz sharing his work, we have many many replications under our belt, and not one of the so called gurus have helped Itsu along? Why?

In point of fact, We, Members here have helped Itsu along more than them, Itsu flatly refused to take our advice!

No one has been able to find any error, even though they make wild claims about this on many occasions! Not one of those so called measurement experts could find a single measurement error on Tinman's RT! Believe me, they TRIED with all their might!

We have the best measurement Protocols of any forum on the Planet! We check and double check with very good, very reliable protocols!

We are:

Light Years ahead of the other forums!

 

We all can tell you:

 

THIS TECHNOLOGY WORKS!

 

 

Doors open when one asks the right questions!

Tinman has tried to help them on many occasions, at one stage giving up and saying he was not going back, then after a long time he did go back and he tried again. There are no recent posts from him however.

 

Ask the simple Question:

"An Electromagnetic Generator is made up of several simple things. What about these simple things Generates Energy" - Don't say Shaft Torque as this is an Uneducated Brain Washed Scientists answer! Shaft Torque can never ever be converted to Electrical Energy! Simply, there is no Electrical pathway! No Transformation Mechanism! Shaft Torque is the Effect after the Cause, as in Cause and Effect! One needs to stop and think about it!

 

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Captainloz posted this 16 November 2020

Hi Chris,

Thanks for the support!   

Loz

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Chris posted this 16 November 2020

My Friends,

After a PM from Loz, I realise I have been a little rough on Itsu.

I want to:

  1. Apologise, Sorry Itsu, I only meant to try and help!
  2. Invite Itsu to join us here, we can, and will, help Itsu advance this work! Gotta follow advice though ok?

 

We really need to see Successes, more now than ever before!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

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