Clemente Figuera

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Wistiti posted this 09 January 2018

 

 

Hi guys!

In the past I play a bit with the Figuera concept. It use the POC as we already know the potential. I think this guy, Marathonman, understand the principe behind the Figuera device...

Chris, if there already a tread about Clemente Figuera, feel free to move this at the good place!

 

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Chris posted this 09 January 2018

I think it should be noted, and is very important, all the research done and data gathered is important for the Historical Record!

It is up to the reader of the information to Prove or Disprove the information contained!

It is very easy to Prove or Disprove! A very simple Experiment like The Mr Preva Experiment can shed a lot of light on these devices!

In saying this, the words used by Clemente Figuera, forgetting all else, the words used, are critical:

  • induced
  • inductor
  • magnet
  • electromagnets
  • turns
  • variation
  • field
  • traversing
  • voltage
  • current - 37 times second to top, The top word in this document is Figuera at 42 times.
  • dynamos

All these key words, are critical to only one thing: 

Electromagnetic Induction

It is even said, by Clemente Figuera himself:

This principle is not new since it is just a consequence of the laws of induction stated by Faraday in the year 1831: what it is new and requested to privilege is the application of this principle to a machine which produces large industrial electrical currents which until now cannot be obtained but transforming mechanical work into electricity.

PATENT by CLEMENTE FIGUERA (year 1908) No. 44267 (Spain)

   Chris

 

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Chris posted this 10 January 2018

 

How many Coils does Clemente Figuera Use?

 

How many Coils does Melvin Cobb Use?

 

How many Coils does Alexander Frolov's Phi Transformer Use?

 

How many Coils does Don Smith Use?

 

How many Coils does Floyd Sweet Use?

Divide by Two and exclude EX1 and 2 because they are Dive Coils.

  • P1 = 2 + FB1 = 3 Coils
  • P2 = 2 + FB2 = 3 Coils

EX1 and EX2 are Drive Coils, for Feed Back, or Feed Forward, depending on how you want to look at it,  giving a Time Constant via an Induced E.M.F from the two Power Coils Opposing Fields squeezing out the side through the EX Coils.

Turns Ratios and the Wavelengths used are important, we know this already.

   Chris

Chris posted this 10 January 2018

Hello and Welcome Marathonman!

I agree with your posts, that last one in particular, speaks volumes...

The field energy is proportional to the square of the amplitude of the total electromagnetic field. As a result, the simple addition of the energy fields of the total field can be many times the energy of the initial fields separately. This property of the electromagnetic field is non-additivity of the energy field. For example, when added to a stack of three flat circular permanent magnet energy of the total magnetic field is increased to nine times! A similar process occurs with the addition of electromagnetic waves in the feeder lines and resonance systems. Total energy of a standing electromagnetic wave can be many times greater than the energy of waves and the electromagnetic field to add. As a result, the total energy of the system increases. The process is described by the simple formula of energy field

Andrey Melnichenko - Transgeneratsiya electromagnetic field energy

 And

The underlying principal (forget Millikan’s experiment) has been derived in that magnetic effects vary on the square of the current. As the load on the machine increases, the volt-ampere product increases. The rate of flow of charges increases.

Floyd "Sparky" Sweet - The Space-Flux Coupled Alternator

We have an experiment here we, well I refer to all the time, The Mr Preva Experiment, this proves exactly this. It is undeniable and only Fools try to dispute it.

You are right in what you say, I have found the same things, spending many years gluing a long trail of references and data to support my findings!

Simply, hard provable data can not be disputed by any sane mind!

Welcome!

   Chris

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Chris posted this 10 January 2018

@Marathonman - Are you aware of the very old devices called Mag-Amps, Saturable Reactors and the like?

 

“Now I'm going to say something I should not. Floyd Sweet was privileged to work with the  Germans after WW2. He pulled this trick on me with the VTA except I caught him and was  booted out he only made it look like he condition the magnets . The Germans already had  developed, kept away from the people rotating mag amps and Sweet worked on them. ( He  was an electromagnetic expert in this field) It was funny to me when I would go over to  Sweet's place with the coils I wound for him and when I would leave it would be working the  next day. I asked him to remove the 100 watt power Amplifier and he refused so I left then  was asked to never return by Tom Bearden, Tom did not know as I never told him. Tom even  brought one over to me to test away from Floyd's house where it was working before Tom  left to have it tested. Floyd went nuts when Tom told him he was testing this at my shop. It  did not work. So whatever GE had knowledge of , Floyd knew How, but I can make this  machine work either way.”

...

“That is why nobody can make it, Sweet device also Magnetic Amplifier.”

John Bedini

 I was never able to confirm any of this. But back in those days it was how they did things. So its hard to say.

We are growing stronger every day, with every new member, we are working as a team and we are moving forward all the time. Our Collective Will makes us in stoppable! We are already making a difference!

We work for the next Generation, making the difference the last Generation should have, but only few did.

   Chris

dummyload posted this 10 January 2018

I was offline for a little bit, so I hadn't seen the reply from Chris when I posted. I just deleted my post. It just seemed that the mag amp or DC Variac described had a special construction.

Chris posted this 10 January 2018

I was offline for a little bit, so I hadn't seen the reply from Chris when I posted. I just deleted my post. It just seemed that the mag amp or DC Variac described had a special construction.

Hey Dummyload - I may have been late to reply, sorry, I have been really busy lately. got a side project and its taking a lot of time.

GE built what's called an Amplidyne, it is a Rotating Magnetic Amplifier. I do not know if this was what Floyd may have worked on, but it fits the description given by JB.

One has to ask the question, why would GE put a "Generator" on the end of a Motor? It clearly served a purpose, especially on the gun mount control system in the Military.

   Chris

Chris posted this 10 January 2018

in the figuera device part G is basically the same thing with a twist.

Marathonman

Agreed, it is, the Twist is Electromagnetic Induction, we are Amplifying Voltage and Current in excess of Unity, and above! Charge is Separated, Conduction Improves, which in turn Resistance drops, because Conduction = 1 / Resistance.

   Chris

Chris posted this 10 January 2018

I agree, it is a Pressure, it is T.H. Moray's "Pump":

Electricity is not made by the generator, it is merely pumped. From that standpoint, an electric generator might be referred to as an electric pump and the Moray radiant energy device as a high-speed electron oscillating device.

T. H. Moray - The Sea of Energy in which the Earth floats

 There is beauty in Logic. A Jet Engine, Air Pressure, a Turbo is the same. This video of mine, Stress is a Pressure:

 

   Chris

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Chris posted this 11 January 2018

Hahaha Nicely worded - We feel the same way Marathonman! I assure you!

For the sake of Science and the way Science has discovered Nature and all of the Great Scientists that have contributed to Science, I follow Science and do Science, but Experiment is what guides my beliefs. Not the Dogma of bad Scientists! Which is NOT Science!

As all Great Scientists have, even the Great Nikola Tesla, worked with the Fundamental concepts of Electrical Energy, as this is my focal point. This being Voltage and Current, the quantities we Measure and observe.

I have my own views on how these particles have managed to stay in existence for as long as they have. I have chosen to stay largely silent on the underlying concepts, simply because I do not wish to confuse people.

I want to stay on target and leave out all unnecessary complications, at least where possible.

That's just the way I want to go with my work. Any following my work, and the progress I have had in the study of Floyd Sweet and my side projects that relate and correlate to Floyds Sweets work, can then follow the same Concepts laid out in Science, a Standardised View Point that is well documented.

I need not re-invent the wheel, only tighten a few spokes...

The reason I say this here, is, this is how Clemente Figuera also approached his work. As many Greats did following Figuera.

   Chris

Zanzal posted this 11 January 2018

i am a man of my word and live by my word and you people will get the information in my head if it kills me or they kill me first.

No worries man. As of this year (((they))) don't have the influence they once had. Also I don't think they kill people for knowing about FE or how to build FE devices. Though I am fairly certain they killed people who tried to upset the balance or status quo or who had invented something truly special. Unless you are manufacturing anti-matter in your basement or trying to put a FE device in every home/car you don't have anything to be concerned about IMO.

Chris posted this 11 January 2018

As of this year (((they))) don't have the influence they once had

World Wide Eutrophic Smack Down of Evil - I am totally tickled about this! (((they))) have been reaped and this time the Grim Reaper is shinning light for all!

Team Q

   Chris

Chris posted this 11 January 2018

since currant is flowing in two direction we have a north north opposing fields at the positive brush that keeps both sides of the inductor separate allowing complete unison as the brush rotates.

And this is the part that is music to my ears!

We have, from the Horses mouth, Clemente Figuera, that the Clemente Figuera Infinite Energy Machine was, in his words:

 

PRINCIPLE OF THE INVENTION

Watching closely what happens in a Dynamo in motion, is that the turns of the induced circuit approaches and moves away from the magnetic centers of the inductor magnet or electromagnets, and those turns,  while spinning, go through sections of the magnetic  field of different power, because, while this has its maximum attraction in the center of the core of each electromagnet, this action will weaken as the induced  is separated from the center of the electromagnet, to increase again, when the induced is approaching the center of another electromagnet with opposite sign to the first one.

Because we all know that the effects that are manifested when a closed circuit approaches and moves away from a magnetic center are the same as when, this circuit being still and motionless, the magnetic field is increased and reduced in intensity;  since any variation , occurring in the flow traversing a circuit is producing electrical  induced current .It was considered the possibility of building a machine that would work, not in the principle of movement, as do the current dynamos, but using the principle of increase and decrease, this is the variation of the power of the magnetic field, or the electrical current which produces it.

The voltage from the total current of the current dynamos is the sum of partial induced currents born in each one of the turns of the induced. Therefore it matters little to these induced currents if they were obtained by the turning of the induced, or by the variation of the magnetic flux that runs through them; but in the first case, a greater source of mechanical work than obtained electricity is required, and in the second case, the force necessary to achieve the variation of flux is so insignificant that it can be derived without any inconvenience, from the one supplied by the machine.

Until the present no machine based on this principle has been applied yet to the production of large electrical currents, and which among other advantages, has suppressed any necessity for motion and therefore the force needed to produce it.
In order to privilege the application to the production of large industrial electrical currents, on the principle that says that “there is production of induced electrical current provided that you change in any way the flow of force through the induced circuit,” seems that it is enough with the previously exposed; however, as this application need to materialize in a machine, there is need to describe it in order to see how to carry out a practical application of said principle.

This principle is not new since it is just a consequence of the laws of induction stated by Faraday in the year 1831: what it is new and requested to privilege is the application of this principle to a machine which produces large industrial electrical currents which until now cannot be obtained but transforming mechanical work into electricity.

PATENT by CLEMENTE FIGUERA (year 1908) No. 44267 (Spain)

The truth is, Electromagnetic Induction does produce an E.M.F and as a result, most of the time, a Current, an M.M.F will become available.

Of course, these two quantities are our Focal Point.

   Chris

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Zanzal posted this 11 January 2018

Good info here, definitely convinced me to give this one a try. For a small prototype what is the recommended construction recipe here. I understand the coils all need to have a soft iron core (which is difficult and somewhat expensive to source). Can anyone recommend based on experience:

1. minimum number coil sets (7 shown in the patent, can it be done with 1 set, 2 sets, etc?)

2. minimum/maximum dimensions for soft iron cores for N/S coils and also for pickup? 

3. wiring gauges for wiring for both the N/S coils and also pickup?

Just looking for basic replication starting point, not for use necessarily on a practical scale. 

 

Chris posted this 11 January 2018

Hey Marathonman, yes, I see.

Studied and read many times. Perhaps my interpretation is a little different from yours.

Do you have your own schematic drawn up?

   Chris

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Chris posted this 11 January 2018

In the original documentation some images were placed in the mix, I have no idea if they are legit!

 

 

I do suspect someone has gone a little crazy with a red pen... Inflicting some pain on what was really being said.

   Chris

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Chris posted this 11 January 2018

and i hope your understanding Chris is not based on that pic.

Hey Marathonman,

No sir, expressed was scepticism, not faith!

   Chris

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Chris posted this 11 January 2018

Chris;

Interpretation is a little different than yours.

well lets here it and i will explain in detail if there are errors.

Marathonman

Hey Marathonman,

I guess I work a little different than most. I look for Key Words, Key Sentences and then I use Fact to disseminate Negative Sentiment.

Basically, I look for provable Facts. Facts that can be proven to be true on the bench. All else I put in a "Maybe Later" basket. So, what Facts do we know about  Clemente Figuera?

  • He studied in depth Dynamos, same type of device as we know today as an Electrical "Generator"
  • Obtained from the Clemente Figuera Device was an excess of Current and Voltage
  • This Excess was attributed to Faradays Laws of Electromagnetic Induction.
  • As was mentioned, the word "Current" was one of the top words used, we know a Changing Current is analogous to a Changing Magnetic Field, thus supporting the Electromagnetic Induction hypothesis.
  • Fact is, the description of the device does vary from document to document which could mean several things.
  • Clemente Figuera spoke of "the sum of partial induced currents born in each one of the turns of the induced", this we have evidence and experimental proof several times in other Devices.
  • It was often mentioned, pluralised: "induced currents", for example: "Therefore it matters little to these induced currents if they were obtained by the turning of the induced, or by the variation of the magnetic flux that runs through them"
  • Fact is, the Sum of two Currents is greater then one Current Individually. A quality we are focused.
  • No one description of the device holds with Electromagnetic Induction.
  • The use of the term: "induced" is regularly mixed up, or confused with the mentioned Coil and or Input to its respective Output - Remember Figuera studied in depth Induction, he knows what "Induced" means!

The list goes on, but I think there is enough here to see what I mean. To get a bit of a handle on where and what I look for.

My one line interpretation of the Clemente Figuera device: 

A Machine that took full and complete advantage of Electromagnetic Induction to produce an excess Output Power in respect to its Input Power.

I hope this helps?

   Chris

 

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Chris posted this 11 January 2018

Hey Marathonman,

Just for the record, I think youre on the right track.

Todays massive Hydro Generators can be very efficient. Today’s standard reaches up to 99%.

One has to think about this for a while, What exactly is measured and what is converted to what in these measurements?

Shaft Torque is 100% of the Input Energy, this is the unit Newton Metre.

The Output is Electrical Energy, this is Watts, which is Joule's per second.

So what's the < 1% - Bearing Friction, Hysteresis and Windage Losses. 

A Transformer, the same problem exists, Hysteresis Losses and so on.

The Problem here is, we have a ratio of Input to Output! This ratio is a function of the Energy Conversion Process. This is a Closed System and no extra work can be done at any time during this process.

Energy Input: One Unit

Energy Output: Transformation of the One Unit less losses.

Ensuring a System that is ALWAYS below Unity.

In our System, we must invoke more than one Transformation, I have shown how to do this here: Some Coils Buck and Some Coils DONT

   Chris

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Chris posted this 12 January 2018

I agree and Figuera bucked the system all to hell

that is why he says a transformation of mechanical work to electricity in layman terms is BS.

Agreed Marathonman, he does actually point this out in his text:

electromagnet with opposite sign to the first one

...

what is sought is the patent for the application of this principle

You can check the context if you like, but there is a direct correlation between the two snippets. One is the 'objective' and the second is the 'intent'.

Clemente Figuera was a very smart cookie! Well before his time.

Gnite, sleep well.

   Chris

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Chris posted this 12 January 2018

Just tried another browser and no dice still no pic post.

Hey Marathonman, an odd problem!

What browser are you using? And what Version?

Can you try the following:

  • Turn off popup blockers.
  • Turn off any Active Screen Filters you may have
  • Update Java to the latest version.
  • Turn off any anti Virus software.

If you can try one at a time, then try to add an image, this may narrow down whats causing the problem. 

Of course, when done, turn them all back on!

TinyMCE is perhaps the most popular html editor in the world! The website: https://www.tinymce.com/

Perhaps try on their site with one of the many demo's there also.

No one else has reported this problem, is anyone having this problem?

   Chris

 

P.S: So you're not getting the second popup after clicking the Image Button like this:

 

 

 

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Chris posted this 12 January 2018

I get the pop up but the browse button is not there and the rectangle boxes are covering up half the words. i already have the pop up turned off, java is ok and Flash is allowed so beyond that i haven't a clue.

I will attach a pic of the pop up box.

Hey Marathonman - I have to go out, but real quick, try pasting the Image path into the box 'Sour' so it might look like something like:

  • C:\Users\Chris\Desktop\Image.jpg

but yours will be different path, and then try clicking Ok.

See if you can make some progress that way?

The image you posted, I have not seen it before, have no idea why you're getting this box.

You've followed all the steps here: Help with using the Forum and that's the box you get? This is completely odd!

   Chris

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Zanzal posted this 12 January 2018

Can not copy and paste won't let me. even tried the new Mozilla Firefox, Google chrome, Internet Explorer and Chromium,  the same thing.

Marathonman

I don't get the browse button either so I cheat:

1) Upload the image as an attachment after creating the post
2) Copy the attachment link below the post into the clipboard
3) Edit the post and insert the image using the attachment link url
4) Wait a few seconds for the image to appear then edit the dimensions of the image to better fit the forum.

Wistiti posted this 13 January 2018

Hey MM, it is a pleasure to have you here with us!


I want to start with a welcome to finally a forum where people can freely share their building experiment without the fear of being challenged by bad mind people...

Here people are free to experiment with the bucking coil ,POC, technique (cause we already know it work) or any other approach they want. 

The main idea here is to build, learn and share together.


With that say, please do not be upset if the “mass” do not replicate what you are sharing.... This “mass” builders is not so high in number and some share their experiment and some other prefer to not... That the way it goes and it is ok like that.

Anyway, everyone learn and progress at their convinience...

Again I’m happy to have you here sharing!

Zanzal posted this 13 January 2018

Those coils turned out pretty nice.

Chris posted this 15 January 2018

  Yesterday i tried to log on and got an error message. i  took a screen shot of the error and printed it out as a PDF. the attached is that error message. i would of used a personal message but you can't add after posting there. you can delete it after seeing it if you want.

Hey Marathonman, a bit of a pain this message. The Antiforgery token has been issued twice and one becomes invalid. Its normal if you try to logon over top of an existing login. Not to say you did, but sometime hitting the login button twice fast while logging in can cause this. Other things can cause this also. Its ok, no problems your end, or Server side, its just an issue with the login.

This is resolved by closing the page and trying again or sometimes going back and using the previous Token.

Thanks for letting me know!

   Chris

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Chris posted this 16 January 2018

Sorry to hear Marathonman, a bad day! Hope your day improves!

   Chris

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Zanzal posted this 17 January 2018

Not to derail, but I should point out in reference to that graphic that the bible provides an answer to key to the Kingdom of God. The key Kingdom of God is the Messiah. There is a door only he can open and only he can shut. This door provides entry into the Kingdom of God. Further its understood that flesh and blood (which is powered by DNA) cannot enter the Kingdom of God. These things can be described in sciency terms (higher dimensions, virtual universe simulations, etc), but DNA is not the key to the Kingdom of God.

 

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Zanzal posted this 17 January 2018

WOW ! i just laid out so much info to the figuera device and all you can say is is a comment about something i completely forgot that was on that graph about a book that is basically a complete lie in the first place twisted by man to suit his own needs as a tool of control.

it seems i might be in the wrong place to present the Figuera device and need to reassess my reasons for being here .

Marathonman

Greetings Marathonman,

Yes, I appreciate your sharing and being here. I have a religious obligation to combat heresy just as I have an obligation not to lie or to steal or to harm other people. We have to be true to our beliefs. Feel free to express yourself in any way you see fit, I shall do the same and with much politeness if at all possible.

Zanzal posted this 17 January 2018

So how did you like the info on the mot's ? hopefully it will be useful to builders of very small test builds as mot's are easily attainable.

I thought the info you provided was very complete and concise and your own turned out excellent. I was sad to hear about the mishap. I myself don't have the equipment or machining skills today to take the same path, but there are those that can and will thanks to that info. I was thinking about obtaining some smaller bar stock and making a scaled down version. I'm doing some research into the solid state version of part G that uses two decade counters. I find that device alone to be very interesting and I'm going to build one and study it as soon as I can.

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Zanzal posted this 19 January 2018

down load all pics and graphs and study this device like crazy. be sure to tell other people about it and what you are doing to help humanity, you will be surprised at what you can accomplish and what doors will open.

Have you considered the level of danger individuals pose to your work? Everyone so concerned about the Rothschilds, never realize there are those who would suppress this because it suits their interests as well. Especially because of where you live, lots of people with ties to oil, wind, and solar. Think about this: Someone blabs and tells their rich Uncle about your research, the next day two ex-cons show up and rand-sack your home. You remember the theory that everyone is connected by at most 7 levels of separation?

I have the flu, don't feel well and 10 hr day is long tomorrow so i must rest.

My whole house over here recovering from whatever is going around. Get well soon.

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Zanzal posted this 20 January 2018

Zanzal;

According to your post two weeks ago there was no threat yet today there is one.

You may have to take me literally sometimes. I'm known for splitting hairs. My words were this:

No worries man. As of this year (((they))) don't have the influence they once had. Also I don't think they kill people for knowing about FE or how to build FE devices. 

What I was saying is that group of people often referred to as the cabal aren't a serious threat to researchers. At least not in the early stages. Invent something revolutionary, and they come into the picture to take it from you (force or money depending on the nature of the invention and its implications), otherwise they are content to watch. Or at least they were, they've lost control now. Another threat may emerge to replace them, but again I don't see them as a threat to most FE researchers.

Now people who want to change the world have other threats to contend with. That's why I asked if you had considered human nature here.. Forewarned is forearmed.

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Chris posted this 21 January 2018

@Marathonman - please check your PM, I have asked to edit and tone down your last post. 

We want to keep Civil and Respectful communication going here, unlike the other forums.

Thank You for respecting our Code of Conduct.

   Chris

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Zanzal posted this 21 January 2018

you contradict your self in the same paragraph. research into the suppression of FE devices might be to your advantage as my 15 years Plus of research suggests otherwise. the list of murdered people following the FE path is longer than my front driveway.

I re-read what I posted and I don't see the contradiction you are referring too. Since I also read your original post where you made it clear you did not want to continue the discussion, I will leave it at that.

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Zanzal posted this 21 January 2018

I found this video while searching for information on Clement Figuera, has some good details in it:

 

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Chris posted this 22 January 2018

I found this video while searching for information on Clement Figuera, has some good details in it: 

Hey Zanzal - Thanks for sharing!

For the Record, I disagree on this working principle. But I am interested to see what the end result is. My interpretation of this device is quite different, yes, I have read all patents and paper work.

The "Secondary Coil" will still exhibit Lenz's Law, Opposite magnetic Field effects, that will Reflect back on the "Primaries".

If the Primary Coil, is subjected to, any sort of, Magnetic Field Reflection, Lenz's law, from a Secondary Coil, then we are still stuck with an in-Efficient Transformer. Remembering the Magnetic Field, is Current, which is MMF and two opposing MMF's at the same time, if you have to pay for one of them, well, we know what a Transformer does.

That's my opinion and my experience, but happy for Marathonman to prove me wrong? Or anyone else?

   Chris

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Zanzal posted this 22 January 2018

If the primary's oppose, which primary is the secondary linked too in a transformer....? If secondary flux is linked to N wouldn't it's opposition to N assist S or vis versa? Because the power though N is opposed by S (via part G) that the flux linkage normally enforced through Lenz might be opposed in this configuration.

Normally because of Lenz transformers can't gain energy from time rate of change.. Because the draw on the primary is always proportional to the secondary.. However, if that symmetry can be broken even by a little, then increases time of rate of change could increase power output, couldn't it? Further multiple transformers producing even a small percentage of excess power could result in a lot of power when put in series. I think your assessment is not unreasonable Chris, but its far from clear that this is a simple transformer. There is a lot of consider here so I think its worth exploring more.

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Chris posted this 22 January 2018

Hey Zanzal - Perhaps Marathonman will prove me wrong?

I am going to leave the floor to Marathonman or whoever else, and see if they can show I am wrong. I will read from now on.

   Chris

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Zanzal posted this 23 January 2018

Hey Marathonman,

Looking forward to seeing more on this. Your build is off to a great start. I'll reply back if a question comes to mind, but I'm going to focus on other projects for now.

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Chris posted this 23 January 2018

I must post to say, sorry Marathonman, I have to disagree again, Electromagnetic Induction is Electromagnetic Induction and the rules or Laws don't change from Transformer to "Generator", Electromagnetic Induction is the fundamental Law, can not be changed.

A Transformer works on the Fundamental Electromagnetic Induction Laws, as does a "Generator", they are not the same devices, but the Laws are the same.

Transformers are designed around the exact same Equations as Electromagnetic Induction and Efficiencies are about the same for well designed devices.

So, I have to disagree with your interpretation and differentiation of the two devices. The underlying principles are the same, even though the devices are not the same.

The Hooper-Monstein Experiment might be worth your while looking into. Also you may find the Flux Gate Magnetometer interesting.

   Chris

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Chris posted this 23 January 2018

I should have said - We have two different devices that both give us the same end result via the same fundamental Laws:

  • A Coil of Wire with Positive on one Terminal and Negative on the other Terminal.

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Chris posted this 24 January 2018

Since i started this journey i have had a ton of people disagree with my findings so it is nothing unusual. most of the defiance is because of the lack of understanding or the total mind set of dogma classical training. in most cases the confusion are of spin direction or the fact that we have one electromagnet coming in (increasing) and one going out (decreasing) thus changes the spin or rather the E field direction and NOT the original magnetic field which does not change. just because you are pulling a magnet away from a coil does not change the fact that the magnetic field is always in one direction but the fact is we are catching the back side of the spin thus changes the direction of the E field to match that of the increasing electromagnet giving us an output that is the square of the two electromagnets in coherency thus four times the output as two non coherent.

Hey Marathonman - Although I disagree, doesn't mean I am not willing to learn, perhaps I have missed something in my journey? I am not stuck with dogma or ignorance - I am a student of Nature and all it has to share.

Every day I wake I look forward to a little more enlightenment, Learning is my thing, I am looking forward to your sharing of something new.

   Chris

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Chris posted this 24 January 2018

Hi Marathonman, I am not "ruffled" I am interested in seeing what you have to share. I am back in reading mode now.

Will watch your progress.

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norman6538 posted this 07 February 2018

I did Marathonman's Test 1 and got very little current and the same for test 2. I suspect some coil/magnet geometry problems and will increase the repelling magnets gap to 1/2 in from 1/8 so it will be about the same as the coil width so the same pole is approaching the coil and also leaving the coil out the other side.  I will be pushing the magnets through the coil hole so its more like the Figuera configuration instead of pushing the past the cored coil. I use black silicone seal to hold the magnets and that takes a good 12 hrs to hold. Hot glue will not hold the repelling magnets. I am using 3/4 ceramic magnets.

 

Anybody else get some better results?

 

I tested the wider gap between repelling magnets and did not get a greater current.

Now what?

 

Norman

norman6538 posted this 07 February 2018

Could you describe the physical movement that you used for the test. Most people pass a magnet over one of the core ends...And when you do that you will get one voltage polarity as they approach each other and another when they leave each other. But I chose to pass my magnet through the coil and you get the same voltage polarity approaching and leaving as in passing the core.

Mechanically going through the coil does not make a generator. Were it not for my such experiments I would not understand this at all.

Now picture a magnet being flipped so that N goes in and gets flipped so that N also comes out which means the coil voltage polarity does not get flipped....Figuera did that so that he got the same polarity  approaching and leaving instead of switched polarity. But I am not sure about the current doubling. My test will show that when the glue dries over night.

Norman

 

 

 

Norman

electrocute posted this 28 February 2018

Hello everyone

I am a newbie here and I caught interest in the Figuera-device when this thread was brought up. By watching the priming video by wisiti I thought it should be possible to test if it was something to this principle by doing a simple experiment.

The goal is to have one magnet moving out the same time as another one is moving in. Supposedly a pickup loop will then “see” a fading N-pole on one side and an increasing N-pole on the other side. This would be a new way of inducing something into a coil and the outcome not so easy to predict.

I first fixed one stack of neo ring magnets on a brass rod and dropped it through a vertical pvc pipe. On the outside of the pipe I had a pickup coil about 30cm from the top. The pulse was recorded on the scope. This would be the reference (normal induction). Peak value about 4.4V.

Then I fixed two stacks on the rod and dropped it from the same height. In this first test it was obvious that the spacing between the magnets was not optimal, so I decreased a little bit and did a new drop. Now it seems that the generated pulse is exactly what is proposed in the video:  double voltage – over 8 volts!!!

This is of cause a very crude experiment but may be the proof that this principle really has some merit.

 

This is what I used:

 

 

Pulse from one magnet stack:

  

 

Bucking magnets 1.try

 

 Bucking magnets 2.try: (now the scale is 5V/div)

 

 

-electrocute

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electrocute posted this 05 March 2018

MM,

I did a couple of experiments some time ago with two electromagnets. As I understand the goal is to have one electromagnet going from 100% to zero at the same time as the other is going from zero to 100%. The result should be a triangular curve. In my first experiment I did this with just two transistors driven from a 2-channel function generator. I had a magnetometer with which I measured the resulting field on the pole faces. It took a lot of tuning of the timing of the pulses together with the driving voltage from the power supply and the resistors in the back emf circuit to get a fairly good triangular curve. If the timing was not set right the field would start above or below zero. The very interesting thing I observed was that the output was a square wave. This could mean that with this kind of field the induction is constant, giving DC in each cycle. But of cause change polarity each cycle.

In the next experiment I did I wanted to boost the field strength and at the same time improve the linearity of the curve. Since the loading current was depending on a RL-circuit in the first experiment (which gave a fairly linear curve) I would try to load through a constant current source. Darlington bipolar gave a nice linear curve. But for the decrease I used the same RL circuitry as before. I also used some smaller coils which gave higher field, about 0.5T as 0.1T in the first experiment. Unfortunately my magnetometer probe was smashed between the magnets so I have not finished the experiment yet. I think a magnetic field instrument is a must in these experiment. A new probe is under way from Ebay.

I am not sure if the fields should go from 0% to 100% or maybe from 50% or higher. It's difficult to know exactly what the part G does but as far as I can see there is always some resistor in the circuit, never a full break. That should indicate current always above zero.

As you may understand I am not so dedicated to a mechanical version of part G, partly because I don't have the means to make mechanical parts and also because I believe it is possible to make the necessary waveforms with electronics.

-electrocute

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Enjoykin2118 posted this 16 March 2018

The same laws rule the Figuera's overunity machine.... This is that rule

ps: The same HZed FORCE like in Mr.PREVA device, HZ(ed) antennas, Floyd Sparky Sweet VTA and all OU devices.

Vladimir’s Korobejnikov and Ted's Hart mathematical work is the realization that the electric charge in dynamic electrons always has two components - forward and rotary(spinor 1/2). As a result, the electromagnetic field of this dynamic charge consists of two complex components: two (№2) separate and distinct electromagnetic fields Vector and Scalar EM-FIELDS. The properties of these two electromagnetic fields are very different in space. Conventional Hertz devices work on the forward progress of electric charges (current) in the conductors. A feature of the HZ device is that the cylinders have some conventional forward electron progress (conducting current) but the ROTARY movement or Electron's spin is master dominant. This sets up a condition to create magnetic streams counter to each other (compensated balance fields) and generate longitudinal HZ magnetic field (aka Scalar field, aka compression/decompression field, aka shock wave, aka radiant) those of the ordinary tuning coils.

 

 

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Enjoykin2118 posted this 16 March 2018

How to generate Spinor field or simply make electrons twist together at the same place ?

Order electrons to TWIST at place where they are by creating two vector magnetic streams counter to each other in well known Chris Sikes configuration known as partnered.

THREE RULES MASTER HZ-ed aetheric FORCE.

1. Two opposite (each other) conducting currents create two opposite vector magnetic streams.

2. Timing or time lag or phase shift between two halves of partnered coils or precise time-lag between two vector magnetic streams.

3. Critical frequency at which wave-lenght of HZ(ed) going to infinity, and the term of @speed@ become the nonsense, because instantaneous power transfer through the whole Aether, or simple HZ(ed) would become the Aether's property.

Think about the Aetheric power involved in neverending game of dynamic fields.

ps: In Fernandez project coils are for sure 100% in Chris Sykes Partnered configuration. Pluse time-lag to achieve HZ(ed) Critical Frequency. And result is always BINGO.

Same stuff in A.F. Möbius Partnered HZ(ed) coils.

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Enjoykin2118 posted this 16 March 2018

How to catch  "uncatchable" HZ(ed) field ? 

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Antimony posted this 17 March 2018

I am fascinated with Figuera, and your work MM is interesting. I have been interested in replicating it for a long time but i wasnt able to make the rotary switch, or anything like it.

Are you going to follow the patent, and use a rotary brush switching?

Thanks for sharing.

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